Russian flag flies over Donetsk

[Loki]

Protesters raise Russian flag over eastern Ukrainian city (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/06/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140406163511-donetsk-flag-story-top.jpg
Pro-Russian supporters deploy a Russian flag and the flag of the so-called Donetsk Republica as they storm the regional administration building in Donetsk on Sunday.

(CNN) -- Demonstrators stormed a provincial administration building in eastern Ukraine Sunday and raised the Russian flag atop it, demanding the release of riot police accused of killing protesters in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital.

Police were negotiating with the demonstrators, who have called for supporters to rally around the Regional Security Administration building in Donetsk, about 200 kilometers (120 miles) from the Russian border. Video of the negotiations was being streamed live online by local news outlets.

The protest is the latest challenge to Ukraine's embattled new government, which took power after a revolt that toppled pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in February. There was no immediate response to the seizure from top officials in Kiev, where the jailed police are accused of killing protesters during the uprising against Yanukovych.

[Cail]

This has also happened in Lugansk (another regional capital in the Eastern Ukraine), protesters had actually stormed the SBU (Ukraine's Security Service / Political Police) HQ.

[Don Arb]

Go to Russia Loki

[Loki]

Go to Russia Loki

I wish they'd give me a passport.

[Nor56]

Вот такие дела.
http://novorossia.su/node/184

Friends and colleagues !

After the end of the rally , which attracted about 15,000 people , a few hundred protesters approached the RSA building in protest took its premises .

Already a few hours ordinary residents of Donbass hold the inner perimeter of RSA .

We do not exclude that Kiev junta may apply against people assault actions , whereby may be required in a large number of first-aid , such as medicines and medical kits , tourniquets , bandages and gauze , iodine , saline Medical .

In the case of protracted confrontation people will need bottled water , milk , lemon, juice, fruit , army rations , canned food , bread, sandwiches.

Also reportedly in the building of the RSA is no power , and therefore , all the big request to bring a thermos of hot tea, coffee and other beverages .

In view of possible counteractions by Kiev junta , defending the building RSA may also be required fire extinguishers and other means of eliminating sources of ignition (risk consequences stun grenades and other lethal weapons assault ) .

Friends and Companions ! Do not leave in a difficult moment of our comrades - ordinary citizens and residents of Donetsk area! Help them resist Kiev junta whole world !

TOGETHER - we are strong! TOGETHER - WIN!

[ALSh]

Whats next? Russian army in east Ukraine?

[Cail]

Whats next? Russian army in east Ukraine?

Would be great, but probably not going to happen unless they (the people) overthrow the local authorities themselves. If they do, Russians can send troops to protect the new de facto government (from the invading Ukrainian army), but I think it's unlikely that Russia will use troops to invade before the power has already changed hands. But they can and should supply arms and volunteers.

[Yaroslav]

Odessa is next.

[Musso]

I love that Loki has turned into pro-Russian :thumb001:

I mean after all...

Putin:
http://a.fod4.com/images/user_photos/1162113/vladimir-putin-shirtless_width_600x.jpeg

Obama:
http://www.thestyleblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/obama20jeans201.jpg

Who would you choose as your leader? lol

[Loki]

I am even more muscular than Putin, but then again I'm younger. Respect to that great man. He should be sainted.

[Nor56]

Musso, New :)
http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/ef/b5851a6080a1988cfe872d1682ee92ef.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)

[Musso]

I am even more muscular than Putin, but then again I'm younger. Respect to that great man. He should be sainted.

Putin is a real leader. He looks out for his people and doesn't submit to political correctness. He does have his flaws, but which leader doesn't.

[Nor56]

"Trust me and I will bring you to victory."

[Nor56]

He has aged a bit. But the spirit is full.

[Hevo]

I am even more muscular than Putin, but then again I'm younger. Respect to that great man. He should be sainted.

Putin putting a Russophobe in his place:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Vladimir_Putin_in_Japan_3-5_September_2000-23.jpg

[alb0zfinest]

I am even more muscular than Putin, but then again I'm younger. Respect to that great man. He should be sainted.

There are so many things wrong with this statement.

[Cail]

It has spread to Kharkov - regional government buildings have been stormed. Three main cities in Eastern Ukraine are now under protester's control.

Ukrainian President Turchynov has summoned the national security council for an emergency meeting.

[Loki]

It has spread to Kharkov - regional government buildings have been stormed. Three main cities in Eastern Ukraine are now under protester's control.

Ukrainian President Turchynov has summoned the national security council for an emergency meeting.

Time now for Russian troops to enter.

[Nor56]

In appearance seems a simple man. You probably have seen. On the internet you will find many similar images.
http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/42/3e54514f7aad963fb00476e597bcc542.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
http://i57.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/c3/1b09a578b67a452e7187020946c532c3.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
http://i60.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/3d/2c5caa703738805b215c281b1f9b0a3d.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/b7/4e3195d7e9b3d276bb461ae3d9cdc7b7.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)

Funny photos :D
http://i57.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/a9/3406a43f946511a4f106072ab390fea9.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)

Not so bad on our planet.

[Kiyant]

Time now for Russian troops to enter.

Donetsk is different from Crimea

[Loki]

Donetsk is different from Crimea

Yeah, but still has a majority of ethnic Russians.

[Kiyant]

Well atleast he is Tatar friendly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHLQYbKFg3g

[Kiyant]

Yeah, but still has a majority of ethnic Russians.

Thats not "really" true what is right is that most there speak Russian but you also forget how for example Crimean Tatars were also considered "Russian" in crimea because they speak Russian

[Loki]

Thats not "really" true what is right is that most there speak Russian but you also forget how for example Crimean Tatars were also considered "Russian" in crimea because they speak Russian

Bullshit and you know it. "Ukrainians" in Donetsk and Kharkiv who speak Russian are ethnic Russians. The Crimean Tatars are an exception.

[Kiyant]

Bullshit and you know it. "Ukrainians" in Donetsk and Kharkiv who speak Russian are ethnic Russians. The Crimean Tatars are an exception.

Believe what you want my people are also considered as Russian because they speak Russian as a first language but that doesnt really mean that they are Russians

[Ultra]

Wow.. I am almost in tears over these wonderful news! ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA!!!

[Loki]

Believe what you want my people are also considered as Russian because they speak Russian as a first language but that doesnt really mean that they are Russians

They fucking live on the Russian border and speak Russian. What the fuck else are they??? :rolleyes2:

[Cail]

Thats not "really" true what is right is that most there speak Russian but you also forget how for example Crimean Tatars were also considered "Russian" in crimea because they speak Russian

Whoever they are (Russians or some similar but different Russian-dialect-speaking Slavic group), they are certainly WAY more similar to Russians than to the Western Ukrainians.

Ukraine is an invented country and Ukrainians are an invented people. Not because they are supposedly "Russian-Polish mix" as some stupid people claim, but because the two parts of the country (and the people) are very different from each other. Eastern Ukraine belongs with Russia, not with Western Ukraine.

[Kiyant]

They fucking live on the Russian border and speak Russian. What the fuck else are they??? :rolleyes2:

Ukrainians who speak Russian as a first language nothing special for example most ethnic Kazakhs couldnt even speak Kazakh after the fall of the USSR (i never said that there are no Russians there obviously Russians are a big minority or almost a little majority)

[Cail]

Wow.. I am almost in tears over these wonderful news! ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA ROSSIYA!!!
Way too early to get your hopes up so much, it's not very likely that Russia will invade and annex it. Possible, but not very likely (alas). What we should hope for is that they manage to force radical federalization at least. That would be a good start.

[Musso]

Ukrainian Forces won't dare attack the Russian protesters in Donetsk, since that will push Russia to intervene. Ukraine's central Government really only controls Kiev.

[RandoBloom]

Good, one step closer to destruction of Russia

[Cail]

Ukrainian Forces won't dare attack the Russian protesters in Donetsk, since that will push Russia to intervene. Ukraine's central Government really only controls Kiev.

Yes. SBU was forced to turn over the protesters that they've arrested earlier back to their comrades. A very good scenario would be that Eastern Ukraine declares autonomy as a unified republic or a union of regional republics (Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk etc) and central government can't do shit about it. Then it would be a done deal basically. They need extensive self-defense forces to prevent mercenaries, nazi activists and political police from Kiev from messing with them (shit like arresting activists et cetera).

After their autonomy is established and accepted, then they can vote to secede and join Russia. This way US/EU can't say it was illegal or smth.

[Loki]

Yes. SBU was forced to turn over the protesters that they've arrested earlier back to their comrades. A very good scenario would be that Eastern Ukraine declares autonomy as a unified republic or a union of regional republics (Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk etc) and central government can't do shit about it. Then it would be a done deal basically. They need extensive self-defense forces to prevent mercenaries, nazi activists and political police from Kiev from messing with them (shit like arresting activists et cetera).

After their autonomy is established and accepted, then they can vote to secede and join Russia. This way US/EU can't say it was illegal or smth.

My thoughts exactly. This would bring balance to the Force.

[Musso]

Yes. SBU was forced to turn over the protesters that they've arrested earlier back to their comrades. A very good scenario would be that Eastern Ukraine declares autonomy as a unified republic or a union of regional republics (Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk etc) and central government can't do shit about it. Then it would be a done deal basically. They need extensive self-defense forces to prevent mercenaries, nazi activists and political police from Kiev from messing with them (shit like arresting activists et cetera).

After their autonomy is established and accepted, then they can vote to secede and join Russia. This way US/EU can't say it was illegal or smth.

Honestly, I think if Ukraine had declared Federalization from the start, none of this would have happened. Instead, they declared Ukrainian the official language and thus overrode the minority status of Russian. Now, their country may very well fall apart because of the Right-wing influenced, uncompromising, central government.

[Musso]

The US invaded Granada in order to over-turn a government that they didn't like (it was Socialist). But of course, who remembers all of that lol

[Sarmatian]

He has aged a bit. But the spirit is full.

He is in the age when he achieved all he wanted for himself and probably even more. I think now his main motivation is what will be left to the country once he is gone.

[Nor56]

He is in the age when he achieved all he wanted for himself and probably even more. I think now his main motivation is what will be left to the country once he is gone.

I agree with you. It is felt.

[Sarmatian]

Ukrainian Forces won't dare attack the Russian protesters in Donetsk, since that will push Russia to intervene. Ukraine's central Government really only controls Kiev.


Crimean authorities claim that Timoshenko demanding the security chief of Ukraine to use deadly force against protesters in the Eastern Ukraine but acting president of Ukraine Turchinov is hesitating to authorize it.

Meanwhile in Kharkov police didn’t resist protesters storming local government building at all, they just let them in. Police simply refused to do anything. It’s a good sign, if everything goes right police can even support protests and help them forming their own local government.

[Sarmatian]

They f...g live on the Russian border and speak Russian. What the f..k else are they??? :rolleyes2:

They are relatives of those living in Rostov-on-Don, Don Cossacks mostly. Most of modern day Donetsk and Lugansk regions used to be parts of Don Cossack’s military oblast in Russian Empire. While they speak a dialect of Russian and are Orthodox Christians culturally they are different from the Russian core population.

One thing is certain: they have been reliable Russian allies for centuries and have never associated themselves with Ukraine.

[RussiaPrussia]

Ukrainians who speak Russian as a first language nothing special for example most ethnic Kazakhs couldnt even speak Kazakh after the fall of the USSR (i never said that there are no Russians there obviously Russians are a big minority or almost a little majority)

ukrainians are an invented ethnicity, ukrainians are like bavarians to high germans. Its invented by Westerners to divide russia.

[Nor56]

Ukraine - The old name of "Little Russia" or "Malorussia."

[Den Pobedy]

The question might be what is the "Ukraine" or "Russia". My opinion is that there is only Rus-sia. The peoples are the same people,divided by dialect and history of foreign rule in some areas.That really the dialects should be called West Russian and East Russian.True like all Europe in crossroads lands there has been ethnic intermixing over centuries.West Russians with Poles,Lithuanians,and Romanians.And East Russians with Finno-Uralian,Tatar,and others in the east. But the basic population is common East Slavic.They should never have been divided and are brothers.In Ukraine,the further East from Kiev km by km the more "Russian " the language becomes (and the last census said 54% of people in Kiev itself used Russian as their most common language).In all the census was over 17% Russian by ethnicity and 29% home Russian speakers,while 42-46% said they used Russian as their main language.But as I said these are dialects of the same language.Much as North German and South German are just dialects of the same German people.The tragedy comes from the early Communist regime creating phony Republics that encouraged separation instead of working toward national unity.I would like to see them reunited.But I don't know if its possible.And failing that,either the East and South reunited with Russia or a regional federalism in the Ukraine that allows the regions to safeguard their Russian language and culture.I guess we'll see what happens.But the East and South willing to fight for their rights and friendship with their brothers in Russia,is a good first step.Slava Rossiya,now and forever.

[Loki]

Ukraine doesn't really have the legitimacy to exist. In olden days the western part was Poland-Lithuania if I'm correct.

[Nor56]

Ethnic Russian with western Russia -> resettlement moved east europe.
http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0407/6a/895ade1e3ead447c48b678a03222726a.png (http://fastpic.ru/)

[Vojnik]

ukrainians are an invented ethnicity, ukrainians are like bavarians to high germans. Its invented by Westerners to divide russia.

Correct. The same theory applies to Macedonia and Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro, Romania and Moldova. The west wants us small and weak so it can control us easier.

[Kastrioti1443]

Correct. The same theory applies to Macedonia and Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro, Romania and Moldova. The west wants us small and weak so it can control us easier.

FYROM can join bulgaria easily, by being divided in 2 parts. Southern montenegro has always been an albanian highlander hinterland so what you said is partially true.

[albosomething]

russia is pushing it..


they'll regret these actions.

[Smaug]

Odessa is next.

You are very anti-Ukrainian for a Ukrainian.

[Loki]

You are very anti-Ukrainian for a Ukrainian.

He is not. He is just realistic and actually smart.

[Loki]

russia is pushing it..


they'll regret these actions.

Russia is not pushing it. The US was pushing it with their interference in Ukrainian politics, funding anti-Russian movements etc. But the Bear is not pushed over so easily ... Hitler saw it and Uncle Sam will see it too.

[RussiaPrussia]

russia is pushing it..


they'll regret these actions.

the only one regretting actions is the west who recognized kosovo

[RussiaPrussia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78jb6aePWI8#t=12

[albosomething]

well no signs of intellegence here, moving on

[Sarmatian]

well no signs of intellegence here, moving on

Is that what you call a sign of intelligence?


russia is pushing it..


they'll regret these actions.

To me it looks more like a sign of ignorance. If you'd knew Russians a bit you'd know they rarely regret anything. If some shit happens to them they either fix it if they can or just moving on and live through it. I'd ask you to go and find any Russian who would regret a big war. The only thing they may regret is that they didn't push hard enough.

I see many Alboz playing prophets about Russia. Well it doesn't take half of a brain to understand the difference between Russians and the West. Russians are very determined and if it comes to a fight they are ready to push to the end whatever it may be, they are ready to make sacrifices. And by sacrifices I don't mean a lost bank account or disconnected interwebz but something more serious. Russians are ready to die if it comes to that. This is why they will never be defeated, not by spoiled lazy West.

[Nor56]

Russians are ready to die if it comes to that. This is why they will never be defeated. - The strongest words!

[Nor56]

Я бы перевел эти слова на английский язык, но не донесу на том языке правильность слов.


Над нашей страной сгущаются тучи
К победе нам заслоняя путь
Хоть каждый новый день старого круче
Но с пути борьбы мы не должны свернуть

Никогда не погаснет пламя
Священного огня
Мы будем бороться за твою свободу
Живи Россия моя
Мы будем подниматься снова и снова
Пусть мир будет против меня
И мы умрем за тебя Россия
Живи Россия моя

Над миром рассвет
Занимается новый
И вот огнем
Полыхает заря
Народ на борьбу
Поднимается снова
Пусть будет свободна
Наша земля

Припев

Слава храбрым
Белым войнам
Погибшим в этом
Смертельном бою
Они не смогли
Предать свою отчизну
И спасли
Россию свою

Припев

[Yaroslav]

You are very anti-Ukrainian for a Ukrainian.

Ukrainians and Russians are one people. Ukrainian separatism is a recent cooked-up Western innovation to take down Russia.

[silentkiller]

Ukrainians and Russians are one people. Ukrainian separatism is a recent cooked-up Western innovation to take down Russia.

^^^ True story.

[Den Pobedy]

It appears the coup gang in Kiev has sent troops into the East to silence the people that oppose them.There has been some fighting I hear.When will Russia support their brothers,or will they,I hope.