My Relative's 23andme results

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Hello, Ladies and Gentlemens. Sometime ago, not to long ago or recent I have got a relative of mine tested and Here they are to share with you her results. She is a relative from my father's side. who=are from Northern-Central Mexico. :)
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelative23andmeresultssjid_zps160c7d6e.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeclusteringmapresult_zps86eae2a7.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeclusteringmaprl2_zpsde561adb.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeancestryclusteringmap3_zpsd6798378.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/MyrelativemtDNAhaplogroup_zps6cba08c7.png

Here is her my relative, so you can look at her, look at her
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/NichelleV418_n_zps1d67fcc6.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/MV4062_n_zps49920052.jpg

[Lemonhead]

Wow, very European. She is a Criolla.

[Roy]

Her MTDNA is Amerindian it seems but other genes are predominantly European. She also looks Euro to me. Conquistadores married into local women so it makes sense.

[Damião de Góis]

She seems to be north european + a few native.

[curupira]

Judging by her position on the 23andme map, quite Northern (and near Anglos), I'd say she'd be 1/4 or at most 1/2 Hispanic, and at least half or - more likely - up to 75% Anglo. A good example of the future of the Western part of the USA.

[curupira]

Not really, rather Mexican/Anglo mix of the brave new US.


She is a Criolla.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

She cluster close with French It seems.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Not really, rather Mexican/Anglo mix of the brave new US.

Her ancestry is not Anglo tho, most of her ancestry that I know come from greats=Iberia. :cool:

[curupira]

I doubt it, otherwise she'd plot significantly more Southwards. Half Iberian/Half Anglos plot in the middle of the French cluster, she plots further North, near Germans, Northern Frenchmen and "White South Africans".


Her ancestry is not Anglo tho, most of her ancestry that I know come from greats=Iberia. :cool:

[Damião de Góis]

Her ancestry is not Anglo tho, most of her ancestry that I know come from greats=Iberia. :cool:

That's impossible. She certainly has other more northern ancestry.
Iberians on that plot are to the southwest of her, on that blank space:

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeclusteringmaprl2_zpsde561adb.jpg

Like me for example:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/4vfdis.jpg

Someone who was half iberian half finn or estonian would plot near her. The median between me and the people on the top right.

[curupira]

^ Portusaus, who is half Anglo/half Iberian, plots in the middle of the French box, significantly more Southwards than her. Finns and Estonians are more Northern than Anglos, so she'd have to be more than 50% Anglo to plot where she does.

[Argentano]

Very small amerindian..does she have full colonial ancestry?

[Damião de Góis]

Her Ancestry Finder should make it clear. But it seems to be down at the moment.

[curupira]

Her ancestry is not fully from colonial Mexico, she is clearly at least half Anglo or Northern European, likely more than 50%. Her position in the map, as I said, makes it very clear.


.does she have full colonial ancestry?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

That's impossible. She certainly has other more northern ancestry.
Iberians on that plot are to the southwest of her, on that blank space:

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeclusteringmaprl2_zpsde561adb.jpg

Like me for example:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/4vfdis.jpg

Someone who was half iberian half finn or estonian would plot near her. The median between me and the people on the top right.
Maybe in some of the relatives family tree have other mixed in also. that don't know about.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Very small amerindian..does she have full colonial ancestry?

Yeah, As far that I know.

[Lemonhead]

Not really, rather Mexican/Anglo mix of the brave new US.

She could have other European ancestries besides Spanish.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

My relatives from my father's side are all from Northern-Central Mexico. some also from (Western Mexico, Jalisco).

[curupira]

Obviously she does, her position in the map makes it very clearly as I said. Half Iberian/Half Anglos plot in the middle of the French cluster, more Southwards than her. Judging by her position in the map, she must be at least >50% Northern European, most likely Anglo. There were no sustained Northern European settlements in Latin America during the colonial era, so it is impossible for her to be fully or mostly colonial Mexican. She is most likely a Mexican/Anglo mix.

Her full speculative results, which would make it even more clear, were not posted, by the way.


She could have other European ancestries besides Spanish.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

It seems my family most, mainly on father's side did not really mixed much and keep it pure.

[Iroczor]

Her ancestry is not Anglo tho, most of her ancestry that I know come from greats=Iberia. :cool:

I doubt it, her ancestry seems to be very northern european judging from the plots from what i'm seeing. Switch up the sub-regional resolution. I wanna see her whole entire ancestry composition.

[curupira]

Since her ancestry is clearly >50% Northern European, it follows her ancestral history cannot be very telling of the history of your father's side, unless he is also part Anglo/Northern European.


It seems my family most, mainly on father's side did not really mixed much and keep it pure.

[curupira]

Yep, that would make it even more clear. The position on the map already rules out any possibility of a mostly Iberian degree of ancestry.


I wanna see her whole entire ancestry composition.

[Atlantic Islander]

Ancestry finder seems to be working now, you should check the populations.
She has to have some northern ancestry to plot that far north on the standard European map.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I will get my dad tested next also soon. But after I'm good in money. and have the money handy. Then when I do, I will get get him a 23andme kit. I wonder what my dad's 23andme results will be like. I'm getting other relatives of mine to get tested also.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Ancestry finder seems to be working now, you should check the populations.
She has to have some northern ancestry to plot that far north on the standard European map.
I seems she scores some "British & Irish" and some Nonspecific Northern European + Nonspecific Southern Europe and some more Nonspecific European.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

On the calculators I score some Northern European, 20%.

[MINARDOWICZ]

Her ancestry is not Anglo tho, most of her ancestry that I know come from greats=Iberia. :cool:

France too?

[Figaro]

I seems she scores some "British & Irish" and some Nonspecific Northern European + Nonspecific Southern Europe and some more Nonspecific European.

Perhaps the Spanish component is largely Galician?

[Atlantic Islander]

Perhaps the Spanish component is largely Galician?

Galicians are no different from other Iberians.

[armenianbodyhair]

Wow she seems predominantly north euro. Matches her looks I think actually. She probably plots more northern than I will.

[Atlantic Islander]

I seems she scores some "British & Irish" and some Nonspecific Northern European + Nonspecific Southern Europe and some more Nonspecific European.

I mean ancestry finder.

Go to > my results > ancestry tools > countries of ancestry.

[RMuller]

Wow shes very European!! Do you think she has alot of Basque blood?

[curupira]

Wow she seems predominantly north euro. Matches her looks I think actually. She probably plots more northern than I will.

She surely is. There is no way a mostly Iberian in ancestry person would plot as North as she does. It would be interesting to see her full speculative results... though her position in the map, as I said, already rules out any possibility of a mostly Iberian degree of ancestry.

[curupira]

No, she does not, if she had she would plot more Southwards and a lot more to the West. Her ancestry is mostly Northern Euro. This is where a person of largely Basque ancestry plots:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2w2lymd.png


Wow shes very European!! Do you think she has alot of Basque blood?

[MINARDOWICZ]

She looks cute :).

Sorta french looking, to me.

[Atlantic Islander]

No, she does not, if she had she plot more Southwards and a lot more to the West. Her ancestry is motly Northern Euro. This is where a person of largely Basque ancestry plots:


http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelativeclusteringmaprl2_zpsde561adb.jpg

Yeah, it's this plot that gives it away. Iberians don't plot that far north on the standard map and she's pulling east.

[Gauthier]

Wow. She is probably more nordic than many so called ''nordicists'' in this forum. xD

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Wow shes very European!! Do you think she has alot of Basque blood?

Well she's Northern-central/Western Mexican, so make scene. And not sure But what I do know there is some Basque blood for sure. :cool: Many relatives of mine has a surname that I read are of Basque origin.

[curupira]

Sure, not even a half Anglo/half Iberian person would plot as North as she does. Half Iberian/half Anglo mixes land in the middle of the French box, not that Northern.


Yeah, it's this plot that gives it away. Iberians don't plot that far north on the standard map and she's pulling east.

[RMuller]

Well she's Northern-central/Western Mexican, so make scene. And not sure But what I do know there is some Basque blood for sure. :cool: Many relatives of mine has a surname that I read are of Basque origin.

Zacatecas has alot of Basque ancestry. Alot of light Mexicans with colored eyes. Similiar to Los Altos De Jalisco.

[Atlantic Islander]

Well she's Northern-central/Western Mexican, so make scene. And not sure But what I do know there is some Basque blood for sure. :cool: Many relatives of mine has a surname that I read are of Basque origin.

She's nowhere near the basque cluster though.

[curupira]

But she is clearly mostly Northern European, these tests are very precise, one cannot be mostly Iberian and plot where she does. She has to be mostly Northern Euro to land where she does. Her full speculative results would clearly confirm it IMO.


Zacatecas has alot of Basque ancestry. Alot of light Mexicans with colored eyes. Similiar to Los Altos De Jalisco.

[curupira]

Do you remember Labombe? She was 1/4 colonial Mexican (Hispano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanos) and 3/4 Anglo/German/White American. I remember she plotted near where this girl does.

[Atlantic Islander]

Someone who was half iberian half finn or estonian would plot near her.

Yep, although a bit more west than her:

http://imageshack.com/a/img853/226/11rz.png

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Zacatecas has alot of Basque ancestry. Alot of light Mexicans with colored eyes. Similiar to Los Altos De Jalisco.

Yes. not a big surprise that Zacatecas has Alot of light Mexicans with colored eyes, similar to Jalisco. As we know of Jaliscenses and Zacatense.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Ancestry finder seems to be working now, you should check the populations.
She has to have some northern ancestry to plot that far north on the standard European map.

Ok, here they are now.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/MyrelativecointriesofAncestry_zps169bcb3a.jpg

[Sikeliot]

She looks her results, not surprised.

[Atlantic Islander]

Ok, here they are now.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/MyrelativecointriesofAncestry_zps169bcb3a.jpg

Well there you have it, she pulls east because of Eastern European ancestry.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Well there you have it, she pulls east because of Eastern European ancestry.

Interesting. check this link here out that I just came across with

http://ljz.mx/2014/04/05/grandes-masas-de-extranjeros-zacatecas/
"History

always and power from the heat of the mineral wealth of Zacatecas attracted the attention of the world and so it is that the Municipal Historical Archives has the record of their foreign that since 1872 would huddle on mass:
russian, polish, arabs,chinese, Israelites, French,English,German, american, Lebanese, and until Turks and Argentines."

[Argang]

Where does she place on the East Euro plot?

[Atlantic Islander]

Where does she place on the East Euro plot?

I was wondering that as well, since it looks like she plots there too.

[The King, I am]

She looks Portugese (on the lighter spectrum)

[Camila Valentina]

La mina parece Argentina! She looks very Argentine.

[Camila Valentina]

She looks her results, not surprised.

She looks like we can be sisters.

[Gaston]

She looks Portugese (on the lighter spectrum)

Nothing screams Portuguese about her. Besides, Portuguese look no different from Spaniards so there is no reason to specify Portugal, not to mention she's from Spanish America, not Brazil.


She's clearly of East European ancestry mostly. Her minor but significant Native American ancestry makes her cluster near northeasternmost Europeans.

[Iroczor]

she's half white american and half mexican

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Not really, She "Mexican" only.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Link here out that I just came across with

http://ljz.mx/2014/04/05/grandes-masas-de-extranjeros-zacatecas/
"History

always and power from the heat of the mineral wealth of Zacatecas attracted the attention of the world and so it is that the Municipal Historical Archives has the record of their foreign that since 1872 would huddle on mass:
russian, polish, arabs,chinese, Israelites, French,English,German, american, Lebanese, and until Turks and Argentines."

Interesting info here...the quote.

I wonder If my relative there is probably descends from some Argentines or part of her ancestry is Argentine?
By what is known here, there has been mass migrations of Argentines to our region. She been said also that she looks Argentine and could pass with no problem as one.

[Argentano]

i already told you in another thread she looks typical argentine..yet she plots northern

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

i already told you in another thread she looks typical argentine..yet she plots northern

I read some Argentines have northern or eastern euro ancestry? and have some communities in Argentina where the place has people with northern/eastern influence.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

i already told you in another thread she looks typical argentine..yet she plots northern

What does she pass or look more, que pasa mas por Argentina por Mexicana...?

[Argentano]

I read some Argentines have northern or eastern euro ancestry? and have some communities in Argentina where the place has people with northern/eastern influence.

We recieved Germans, Polish and British...in fact there is an Irish Argentine here and there was a German Argentine in ABF....but imo the amounts are small if you compare them with our italian or spanish ancestry..

I counted the surnames in my high school classroom as an example..i went to a middle class highschool..

Españoles 10
Portugues 1
Italianos 22
Alemanes 6
Eslovaco 1
Holandes 1
Frances 1

I didnt know where to put Foiguel..i think i put it as French but because i have no idea...

I know there are communities were most people is german or most people is british but i always talk about average argentinean..

i once went to misiones with school to bring food to very poor kids who lived in slums and (as they recieved a lot of polish and german) you found a lot of blonde blue eyed kids.. it was very atypical for a slum..

[Armand_Duval]

She cluster close with French It seems.

Actually, that is what I thought of her at first glance,she looks french.


Interesting qualifies as a criolla.

[Armand_Duval]

Her ancestry is not fully from colonial Mexico, she is clearly at least half Anglo or Northern European, likely more than 50%. Her position in the map, as I said, makes it very clear.

Lol, by the way you asure facts about her; it looks she is rather your relative instead Martin's ;

[Armand_Duval]

She has same Mitochondreal DNA as me, C.

I think if I tested my results would be pretty close to hers.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Actually, that is what I thought of her at first glance,she looks french.


Interesting qualifies as a criolla.

Yes.

[Armando Esteban Quito]

Yes.

Good to have you back Martin :thumb001:

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

She has same Mitochondreal DNA as me, C.

I think if I tested my results would be pretty close to hers.
Yeah It seems. and make sense As for you guys little Native ancestry Mitochondreal mtDNA haplogroup, it's there.

As far from the looks, I would not big surprise If you guys are in the same range or similar.

But yeah also She is same as me also a MtDNA C. so that make us part of the mtDNA C club. :cool:

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Good to have you back Martin :thumb001:

Yes as you can see el papa of the papa's is back. :cool:

[Ianus]

She looks alpine, perhaps some Native amerindian

[Mortimer]

congrats on the results

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

She looks alpine, perhaps some Native amerindian

Basically

[Graham]

You should try K13 & K15 Eurogenes Oracle from Gedmatch.

[cally]

Your relative is very very beautiful! Congrats with the results! :)

[curupira]

It is because I have seen too many results in several years. The maps are very precise. You are not familiar with them, unlike me.

As I said, it is impossible for someone to be mostly of Iberian ancestry to plot where she does. There are Mexicans with her level of european ancestry, Mexicans of mostly Iberian ancestry, but they plot very far away from her. She is obviously half or more than half Northern European.

Martinus could have posted her full speculative results, but he did not. They would show it too IMO, besides the map.


Lol, by the way you asure facts about her; it looks she is rather your relative instead Martin's ;

[Insuperable]

Hello, Ladies and Gentlemens. Sometime ago, not to long ago or recent I have got a relative of mine tested and Here they are to share with you her results. She is a relative from my father's side. who=are from Northern-Central Mexico. :)
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelative23andmeresultssjid_zps160c7d6e.jpg


What goes under 90.9% European? We should know more easily if she has ancestry other than Iberian and Native American.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Ok, here they are, her full speculative results
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelative23andmeresults2_zpsc03cdbeb.jpg
It seems has a high "Jewish" score...(13.9%) "Ashkenazi"
Well from what I know there is no known Jewish ancestry in any of our family tree and ancestry. It seems 23andme may have made a mistake, it could be Jewish that was identified wrong. as many times its group and lebel under "European". The reason it must be they group these together is, because Jewish or Middle Easternes are similar to some Europeans genetically. So it's tricky sometimes. because Jewish can be similar to Europeans. so could be unidentified Jewish.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

It is because I have seen too many results in several years. The maps are very precise. You are not familiar with them, unlike me.

As I said, it is impossible for someone to be mostly of Iberian ancestry to plot where she does. There are Mexicans with her level of european ancestry, Mexicans of mostly Iberian ancestry, but they plot very far away from her. She is obviously half or more than half Northern European.

Martinus could have posted her full speculative results, but he did not. They would show it too IMO, besides the map.

I just did already, check.

[Longbowman]

Ok, here they are, her full speculative results
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelative23andmeresults2_zpsc03cdbeb.jpg
It seems has a high "Jewish" score...(13.9%) "Ashkenazi"
Well from what I know there is no known Jewish ancestry in any of our family tree and ancestry. It seems 23andme may have made a mistake, it could be Jewish that was identified wrong. as many times its group and lebel under "European". The reason it must be they group these together is, because Jewish or Middle Easternes are similar to some Europeans genetically. So it's tricky sometimes. because Jewish can be similar to Europeans. so could be unidentified Jewish.

:laugh:

13.9% isn't a mistake and there's no ME to go along so it's proper AJ.

Your relative is at least 1/8 AJ, probably at least 1/2 Anglo, :) plus 1/8 Iberian, 1/8-1/16 Native. That leaves 1/8-3/16 'nonspecified European' plus bits and pieces.

Congrats, bro!

[MINARDOWICZ]

Ok, here they are, her full speculative results

It seems has a high "Jewish" score...(13.9%) "Ashkenazi"
Well from what I know there is no known Jewish ancestry in any of our family tree and ancestry. It seems 23andme may have made a mistake, it could be Jewish that was identified wrong. as many times its group and lebel under "European". The reason it must be they group these together is, because Jewish or Middle Easternes are similar to some Europeans genetically. So it's tricky sometimes. because Jewish can be similar to Europeans. so could be unidentified Jewish.

Can't be a mistake with that high Ashkenazi score. He score is like twice what mine should be, in fact. Very high.

I think her family mixed. Plus, her Iberian score is super low. Where does she live? CA?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Can't be a mistake with that high Ashkenazi score. He score is like twice what mine should be, in fact. Very high.

I think her family mixed. Plus, her Iberian score is super low. Where does she live? CA?
Yeah she live in CA

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Her origins are from North-Central Mexico But live in CA.

[Hevo]

Ok, here they are, her full speculative results

It seems has a high "Jewish" score...(13.9%) "Ashkenazi"
Well from what I know there is no known Jewish ancestry in any of our family tree and ancestry. It seems 23andme may have made a mistake, it could be Jewish that was identified wrong. as many times its group and lebel under "European". The reason it must be they group these together is, because Jewish or Middle Easternes are similar to some Europeans genetically. So it's tricky sometimes. because Jewish can be similar to Europeans. so could be unidentified Jewish.

Looks like she is 0.3% Finnish cool.:P Grats with the results.:)

[curupira]

Wow! Congrats!

She also has recent Jewish ancestry, besides British, Iberian and Native American. Thanks for posting her full results. I must say that combo in her turned out very nicely. :)

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

:)

[dude]

She looks white to me. But them again, I have concluded this site is full of ignorant people who think they know it all just by looking at google and coming up to conclusions about people by looking at pictures of what someone else thinks people should look like. Pretty much most people in here are full of shit. As far a latinos, I see the tendency to make the brown people look whiter and the actual white people darker. Wasn't it the case with your relative?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

She looks white to me. But them again, I have concluded this site is full of ignorant people who think they know it all just by looking at google and coming up to conclusions about people by looking at pictures of what someone else thinks people should look like. Pretty much most people in here are full of shit. As far a latinos, I see the tendency to make the brown people look whiter and the actual white people darker. Wasn't it the case with your relative?
I agree. Yes there is a lot of Ignorant fools here and there. mostly those who come from the U.S. are very Ignorant. Especially when it comes to race/ethnicity. Regardless of race. Like many from the Hispanic group can be also very ignorant and full of shit. There is many of them around in this forum too. Like Many Chicanos, Mexicans here are Ignorant and full of shit.

As you probably have seen here, Some of the chicanos, mexicans here have called Some of my relative's who look the same as her or similar As "mestizo" , including herself before....Because they are some stupid and ignorants who think they know what they know it all But they are stupid asses who are ignorant who are talking out their ass that say "mestizo" because he/she is Hispanic and Mexican for example. :picard1:

But than again Like you have said here. Many people in here are full of shit. And a Hispanic/Latino ethnicity person are no exception. I know some here who are Chicano, Mexican who are full of shit.

[Axios]

She looks Brit

[Manifest Destiny]

She looks predominantly European.

[Kamal900]

She looks quite beautiful. Her ancestry is mostly Iberian, correct?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

She looks quite beautiful. Her ancestry is mostly Iberian, correct?

Yes. That I know of her ancestry is from Iberia But she probably has some other Euro ancestry also in her that don't know of But yeah.

[Kamal900]

Yes. That I know of her ancestry is from Iberia But she probably has some other Euro ancestry also in her that don't know of But yeah.

Are most Mestizos euro admixture is mostly Iberian?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Are most Mestizos euro admixture is mostly Iberian?

Most mestizos Euro blood yeah is Iberian.

[curupira]

Her results made it very clear she is not of mostly Iberian ancestry at all. She has plenty of Anglo ancestry, most likely from the US. As I said, it is impossible for someone to be mostly of Iberian ancestry to plot where she does. There are Mexicans with her level of european ancestry, Mexicans of mostly Iberian ancestry, but they plot very far away from her. She is obviously half or more than half Northern European. And she also has recent and significant Jewish ancestry.

Her full score as posted by Martinus shows it very clearly:


Ok, here they are, her full speculative results
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/yoyochickenkfc/Myrelative23andmeresults2_zpsc03cdbeb.jpg
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She looks quite beautiful. Her ancestry is mostly Iberian, correct?

[Grace O'Malley]

I seems she scores some "British & Irish" and some Nonspecific Northern European + Nonspecific Southern Europe and some more Nonspecific European.

All your relatives are very good looking. I wonder if she has some ancestry from the San Patricios? ;)

[Longbowman]

All your relatives are very good looking. I wonder if she has some ancestry from the San Patricios? ;)

British and Jewish blood, winning combination.