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Alenka
04-08-2014, 01:03 AM
"Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is.
On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force.

Ukraine: Where is it?
Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean.
About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles — locating Ukraine somewhere in an area bordered by Portugal on the west, Sudan on the south, Kazakhstan on the east, and Finland on the north.

Who is more accurate?
Accuracy varies across demographic groups. In general, younger Americans tended to provide more accurate responses than their older counterparts: 27 percent of 18-24 year olds correctly identified Ukraine, compared with 14 percent of 65+ year-olds. Men tended to do better than women, with 20 percent of men correctly identifying Ukraine and 13 percent of women. Interestingly, members of military households were no more likely to correctly locate Ukraine (16.1 percent correct) than members of non-military households (16 percent correct), but self-identified independents (29 percent correct) outperformed both Democrats (14 percent correct) and Republicans (15 percent correct). Unsurprisingly, college graduates (21 percent correct) were more likely to know where Ukraine was than non-college graduates (13 percent correct), but even 77 percent of college graduates failed to correctly place Ukraine on a map; the proportion of college grads who could correctly identify Ukraine is only slightly higher than the proportion of Americans who told Pew that President Obama was Muslim in August 2010.

Does accuracy matter?
Does it really matter whether Americans can put Ukraine on a map? Previous research would suggest yes: Information, or the absence thereof, can influence Americans’ attitudes about the kind of policies they want their government to carry out and the ability of elites to shape that agenda. Accordingly, we also asked our respondents a variety of questions about what they thought about the current situation on the ground, and what they wanted the United States to do. Similarly to other recent polls, we found that although Americans are undecided on what to do with Ukraine, they are more likely to oppose action in Ukraine the costlier it is — 45 percent of Americans supported boycotting the G8 summit, for example, while only 13 percent of Americans supported using force.
However, the further our respondents thought that Ukraine was from its actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene militarily. Even controlling for a series of demographic characteristics and participants’ general foreign policy attitudes, we found that the less accurate our participants were, the more they wanted the U.S. to use force, the greater the threat they saw Russia as posing to U.S. interests, and the more they thought that using force would advance U.S. national security interests; all of these effects are statistically significant at a 95 percent confidence level. Our results are clear, but also somewhat disconcerting: The less people know about where Ukraine is located on a map, the more they want the U.S. to intervene militarily."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/
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Crn Volk
04-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Proves how effective US media is in portraying the 'bad guy' and beating the war drum

Rædwald
04-08-2014, 01:13 AM
Proves how effective US media is in portraying the 'bad guy' and beating the war drum

This is actually horrendously pathetic, from this it looks like the majority got the general area of Eastern Europe. Then there are outliers that simply can't be real, are there people this unaware of the countries of the world?

This also shows how effective the media is in portraying the US as the 'stupid guy'

Crn Volk
04-08-2014, 01:24 AM
This also shows how effective the media is in portraying the US as the 'stupid guy'

not a difficult thing to do - american apricians excluded of course

SobieskisavedEurope
04-08-2014, 01:29 AM
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About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles — locating Ukraine somewhere in an area bordered by Portugal on the west, Sudan on the south, Kazakhstan on the east, and Finland on the north.


I feel like a genius compared to the average American since I can locate every nation in Europe. LOL!

Crn Volk
04-08-2014, 01:31 AM
I feel like a genius compared to the average American since I can locate every nation in Europe. LOL!

That's because you're Slavic :thumb001:

McCauley
04-08-2014, 01:34 AM
Show me your gash.

McCauley
04-08-2014, 01:35 AM
That's because you're Slavic :thumb001:

Brudny is one of the most daft people here. Probably because he's Slavic.

SobieskisavedEurope
04-08-2014, 01:41 AM
Brudny is one of the most daft people here. Probably because he's Slavic.

Why are you so butt hurt by me!? LOL!

Petros Houhoulis
04-08-2014, 09:18 PM
I feel like a genius compared to the average American since I can locate every nation in Europe. LOL!

Can you locate Moravia? Bohemia? Silesia, Ruthenia? Transnistria?

SobieskisavedEurope
04-08-2014, 09:33 PM
Can you locate Moravia? Bohemia? Silesia, Ruthenia? Transnistria?

Roughly yes.

Petros Houhoulis
04-08-2014, 09:42 PM
Roughly yes.

Then you are too much educated for a Yankee.

SobieskisavedEurope
04-08-2014, 09:56 PM
Then you are too much educated for a Yankee.

I was born & raised in America.

Methmatician
04-09-2014, 03:16 AM
I don't understand why people use this to show stupidity. It's more ignorance. Could Europeans locate Bhutan, Ghana, Mozambique, Burma, Venezuela on a map? Countries of little importance on the other side of the world aren't going to always be on the people's minds. I bet there would be many Australians who won't know where Ukraine is either simply because they are out of our sphere.

Crn Volk
04-09-2014, 03:25 AM
I don't understand why people use this to show stupidity. It's more ignorance. Could Europeans locate Bhutan, Ghana, Mozambique, Burma, Venezuela on a map? Countries of little importance on the other side of the world aren't going to always be on the people's minds. I bet there would be many Australians who won't know where Ukraine is either simply because they are out of our sphere.

The difference between Australia and America is that people here are much more aware of world events than the average American. This is largely due to our media. In the US, most of their news is about the US, rather than the outside world. In Australia however, world events are a large part of daily media coverage.

7eleven
04-09-2014, 03:29 AM
I feel like a genius compared to the average American since I can locate every nation in Europe. LOL!

I feel the same way man haha

Methmatician
04-09-2014, 03:33 AM
The difference between Australia and America is that people here are much more aware of world events than the average American. This is largely due to our media. In the US, most of their news is about the US, rather than the outside world. In Australia however, world events are a large part of daily media coverage.
Australians and American are both aware that things are happening in Ukraine, but how many can locate Ukraine on an unmarked map? I wouldn't assume many could without help. My point was that countries that are irrelevant to yours and that are on another continent aren't always going to be able to be located on a map by others. I've been to the Balkans a few times and some people over there got New Zealand and Australia mixed up.

Crn Volk
04-09-2014, 03:35 AM
Australians and American are both aware that things are happening in Ukraine, but how many can locate Ukraine on an unmarked map? I wouldn't assume many could without help. My point was that countries that are irrelevant to yours and that are on another continent aren't always going to be able to be located on a map by others. I've been to the Balkans a few times and some people over there got New Zealand and Australia mixed up.

That's true, but I've been to the US and have seen the junk on their TV. They are mostly inward looking and don't really care what happens outside the U.S of A.

Methmatician
04-09-2014, 03:38 AM
That's true, but I've been to the US and have seen the junk on their TV. They are mostly inward looking and don't really care what happens outside the U.S of A.
I haven't been to America but I hear their TV is awful and that's why so many buy cable or satellite, but even that's crap. America exports it's media so it's easier for non-Americans to know a lot about America but not for American to know a lot about other countries.

LightHouse89
04-09-2014, 03:53 AM
I can guess who they asked in the poll-Blacks, Latinos [AmeriIndian types], Lowlife whites who think their black [inner city garbage], and Mongrels. :thumb001: They are not real Americans.

LightHouse89
04-09-2014, 03:54 AM
I haven't been to America but I hear their TV is awful and that's why so many buy cable or satellite, but even that's crap. America exports it's media so it's easier for non-Americans to know a lot about America but not for American to know a lot about other countries.

That's why I don't watch television. They spend more air time with ads than programs. Its pointless to watch television. Its mostly junk they put on tv these days and propaganda crap. Your better off reading books, going on nature walks and learning new skills than sitting on your ass in a living room watching television.

LightHouse89
04-09-2014, 03:55 AM
That's true, but I've been to the US and have seen the junk on their TV. They are mostly inward looking and don't really care what happens outside the U.S of A.

Your right so this works to your advantage. Don't think for a second Americans give a rats ass what Russia does so long as you do not threaten us or attack us we wont really do anything....unless of course ZOG pulls something.

LightHouse89
04-09-2014, 03:58 AM
I was born & raised in America.

Same here they [Europeans/other worlders] think we are all retarded. Some of us are still cultured and not some Nig Nog dancing to thug music. I can map most countries in the world. Some little ones I might forget about but for the most part world geography is simple to me in terms of maps. I bet Europeans and old worlders couldn't find most American cities or locations if their lives depended on it....now I am not saying some cannot!

Crn Volk
04-09-2014, 04:10 AM
Your right so this works to your advantage. Don't think for a second Americans give a rats ass what Russia does so long as you do not threaten us or attack us we wont really do anything....unless of course ZOG pulls something.

The American people are not the problem, ZOG is.

LightHouse89
04-09-2014, 05:43 AM
The American people are not the problem, ZOG is.

Most Americans are worthless tools. I wouldn't add Russians as being much higher either. Honestly I do not care what the world thinks of America....its not really a country anymore.