Claudio Marchisio: more sicilian or piemonteis?

[Peyrol]

He's from a town near my city, sicilian mother and piemonteis father

http://www.lanostratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/claudio-marchisio.jpg

http://www.wakeupnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Claudio-Marchisio-www.fanpop.com_.jpg

http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/c/Claudio_Marchisio.jpg

http://www.vanityfair.it/media/19900404/60c74dd3-35dd-42d9-aca0-16019dd12b94_610x353.jpg

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Ne l'uno ne l'altro.

[Peyrol]

Yeah i agree.

A perfect mix...another one who can simply be considered generically ''italian''

[Sikeliot]

Evenly both.

[Peyrol]

Evenly both.

Now you will agree that lips and eyeshapes are sicilians.

[Sikeliot]

Now you will agree that lips and eyeshapes are sicilians.

Yes and the face structure.

The things that do not look Sicilian are his nose, coloring (although it passes).

[MINARDOWICZ]

He passes as one of my lighter Campanian relatives. haha!

[Argentano]

Both in fact many argies are a mix between north and southern italian and he looks familiar to me

Sikeliot, doesent he looks similar to the friend i asked u to classify some weeks ago?

[Sikeliot]

Both in fact many argies are a mix between north and southern italian and he looks familiar to me

Sikeliot, doesent he looks similar to the friend i asked u to classify some weeks ago?

Yes

[Peyrol]

He passes as one of my lighter Campanian relatives. haha!

Well, if you do the ''geographical average'' between Piemont and Sicily you have Latio and Campania.

[Sikeliot]

Well, if you do the ''geographical average'' between Piemont and Sicily you have Latio and Campania.

I think a lot of these mixes look central Italian, though I still think Gabriel Garko doesn't even look Italian (not even northern) but almost Danish or Finnish.

[Peyrol]

I think a lot of these mixes look central Italian, though I still think Gabriel Garko doesn't even look Italian (not even northern) but almost Danish or Finnish.

Mhh...i don't think so...his skin is medium white, not pinkish or milky as the skandos.

I can't find a pic of the parents unfortunately

[Sikeliot]

Mhh...i don't think so...his skin is medium white, not pinkish or milky as the skandos.

I can't find a pic of the parents unfortunately

His Sicilian mother must be atypical because I see not one trace of Sicily in his face.

With Marchisio the metrics of his face are very southern, even if he is light. Like, look at the man in the middle of this photo.. the face structure is the same, just a smaller nose and different colors:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1476315_257890074381793_1275117690_n.jpg

or here:

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10151226_257891774381623_501246782_n.jpg

[Ulla]

He's from a town near my city, sicilian mother and piemonteis father

http://www.lanostratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/claudio-marchisio.jpg

http://www.wakeupnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Claudio-Marchisio-www.fanpop.com_.jpg

http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/c/Claudio_Marchisio.jpg

http://www.vanityfair.it/media/19900404/60c74dd3-35dd-42d9-aca0-16019dd12b94_610x353.jpg

It depends by his own parents.

[Ulla]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-62qhB5qSIx8/UZ-1HuYSA7I/AAAAAAAAAIk/L0mdb64aaTM/s1600/9.jpg

[Peyrol]

It depends by his own parents.

The father is from here and the mom is sicilian.

[Ulla]

The father is from here and the mom is sicilian.

I knew. Ma dovremmo vedere una foto. La madre siciliana potrebbe essere anche bionda, non si può escludere a priori.

[Ulla]

With Marchisio the metrics of his face are very southern, even if he is light. Like, look at the man in the middle of this photo.. the face structure is the same, just a smaller nose and different colors:


The metrics of Marchisio's face are very southern means nothing. A single pic cannot be a proof.

[Sizzo]

He has a slight Greek vibe.

[Scipio Africanus]

His mother

http://s22.postimg.org/fazrc7ks1/opoopopop.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Eye area is where the Sicilian part can be seen.

His mother actually has a slight Jewish vibe, but not totally. You'd have to see her younger since she is obviously a fake blonde.

[Peyrol]

Another half northern/half sicilian is Gabriel Garko


http://files.zapster.it/zapster-media/multimedia/2900/2811/big/84.jpg

[Scipio Africanus]

lol "Jewish vibe" everywhere :rolleyes:

[Sikeliot]

Another half northern/half sicilian is Gabriel Garko


This one shows nothing Sicilian at all and in fact doesn't even look Italian, and it's not due to coloring but features.



lol "Jewish vibe" everywhere :rolleyes:

When you go to school with as many Jewish people as I do, then you're qualified to comment.

[Ulla]

He has a slight Greek vibe.

What Greek vibe? The classic one? The modern one? Imho it doesn't even exist a Greek vibe, like an Italian one (but could exist an Italic one).

[Ulla]

lol "Jewish vibe" everywhere :rolleyes:

Quando tipi così usciranno dal mondo virtuale di uno schermo e tastiera, la realtà si presenterà con tutta la sua crudezza.:)

[Peyrol]

This one shows nothing Sicilian at all and in fact doesn't even look Italian, and it's not due to coloring but features.


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He's half venetian


http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/gabriel-garko.jpg



http://m.funweek.it/codimmagine/56000/Gabriel%20Garko.jpg



http://static.fanpage.it/tvfanpage/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gabriel-garko-al-tg5-638x425.jpg


why don't look italian to you? For me he hasn't nothing of foreigner.

[Sikeliot]

Eye region looks foreign as does the general look.. I'd almost instantly guess him as German. I won't argue if you say he fits in northern Italian but he isn't even the same look as a lighter Sicilian..

[Sizzo]

What Greek vibe? The classic one? The modern one? Imho it doesn't even exist a Greek vibe, like an Italian one (but could exist an Italic one).

Greek vibe = East Med / Dinarid. Since his mother his half Sicilian makes sense. I can see something Southern in him and is not an insult.

http://i59.tinypic.com/a72wj.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Greek vibe = East Med / Dinarid. Since his mother his half Sicilian makes sense. I can see something Southern in him and is not an insult.

Well it's not a Greek vibe, considering many ethnicities look that way including southerners.. that is implying that it's something foreign.

[Peyrol]

Eye region looks foreign as does the general look.. I'd almost instantly guess him as German. I won't argue if you say he fits in northern Italian but he isn't even the same look as a lighter Sicilian..

But he has pinkish/reddish skin, very rare among germans.

[Sikeliot]

His eyes, mouth and nose all look Germanic. He clearly has somewhat of a look we call "Borreby" and nothing in him is Med.

[Sizzo]

Well it's not a Greek vibe, considering many ethnicities look that way including southerners.. that is implying that it's something foreign.

Sicily has got a Greek substratum, that's what I mean. As in Lombardy you could find Keltic vibe, so in Sicily you could find Greek one. Well, of course, they are part of our identity, nowadays.

[Scipio Africanus]

Quando tipi così usciranno dal mondo virtuale di uno schermo e tastiera, la realtà si presenterà con tutta la sua crudezza.:)

lui è senza speranza :p

[Sikeliot]

Sicily has got a Greek substratum, that's what I mean. As in Lombardy you could find Keltic vibe, so in Sicily you could find Greek one. Well, of course, they are part of our identity, nowadays.

Yes, this is true. As well as minor Phoenician and Lombard and whatever else but mainly Greek. Although Greeks have since changed somewhat due to Slavic elements.

[Ulla]

Sicily has got a Greek substratum, that's what I mean. As in Lombardy you could find Keltic vibe, so in Sicily you could find Greek one. Well, of course, they are part of our identity, nowadays.

Yep, agreed.

But the Celtic substratum corresponds to a genetically homogeneous population fairly easy to identify. While the Greek substratum doesn't correspond to a genetically homogeneous population.

[Sikeliot]

But the Celtic substratum corresponds to a genetically homogeneous population fairly easy to identify. While the Greek substratum doesn't correspond to a genetically homogeneous population.

What do you mean?

[Ulla]

I think a lot of these mixes look central Italian, though I still think Gabriel Garko doesn't even look Italian (not even northern) but almost Danish or Finnish.

Gabriel Garko (real name Dario Oliviero) looks Danish or Finnish and not Italian? LOL!

It's official, you are kidding us.

[Sikeliot]

Gabriel Garko (real name Dario Oliviero) looks Danish or Finnish? LOL!

It's official, you are kidding us.

South German. Certainly more so than Sicilian..

Claudio Marchisio could pass as full Sicilian on the other hand though he is really a mixture.

[Ulla]

What do you mean?

Exactly what I wrote. Celtic people were genetically an homogeneous population much more than Ancient Greeks.

[Antimage]

He's half venetian


http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/gabriel-garko.jpg



http://m.funweek.it/codimmagine/56000/Gabriel%20Garko.jpg



http://static.fanpage.it/tvfanpage/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gabriel-garko-al-tg5-638x425.jpg


why don't look italian to you? For me he hasn't nothing of foreigner.

I couldn't tell he's from Italy

[Peyrol]

I couldn't tell he's from Italy

Lol why? What's the supposed ''alien'' feature?

[Antimage]

Lol why? What's the supposed ''alien'' feature?

I don't know. He just doesn't strike me as italian looking ,unlike Marchisio or Buffon

[Sikeliot]

Yes, I agree. Looks like Matt Damon to me.

[Ulla]

Lol why? What's the supposed ''alien'' feature?

LOL

[Ulla]

I don't know. He just doesn't strike me as italian looking ,unlike Marchisio or Buffon

How long have you been in Italy?

[Peyrol]

How long have you been in Italy?

They've seen the Godfather and Jersey Shore, it must be sufficient...!

[Ulla]

They've seen the Godfather and Jersey Shore, it must be sufficient...!

Ahahahah.

[Sikeliot]

They've seen the Godfather and Jersey Shore, it must be sufficient...!

This isn't accurate. I am well aware that all of Italy doesn't look like Calabria and Sicily, that there are plenty of people with light hair and eyes, and even people in northern Italy who can pass significantly further north, and he STILL doesn't look Italian to me. It's nothing to do with stereotypes or mafia movies.

[Sizzo]

Me and Marchisio are the same phenotype (Nordomed) but you can get the differences:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2nsqrup.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/ejhmhx.jpg

I'm definitely more "Padanian" than him.

[RQMD]

Me and Marchisio are the same phenotype (Nordomed) but you can get the differences:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2nsqrup.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/ejhmhx.jpg

I'm definitely more "Padanian" than him.

Theres a difference because Claudio is part Greek and you (and the rest of the north Italians) are really fully German

[Peyrol]

Theres a difference because Claudio is part Greek and you (and the rest of the north Italians) are really fully German

1) no

2) no

[Sizzo]

Theres a difference because Claudio is part Greek and you (and the rest of the north Italians) are really fully German

LOL

[JeanBaMac]

He's from a town near my city, sicilian mother and piemonteis father

http://www.lanostratv.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/claudio-marchisio.jpg

http://www.wakeupnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Claudio-Marchisio-www.fanpop.com_.jpg

http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/c/Claudio_Marchisio.jpg

http://www.vanityfair.it/media/19900404/60c74dd3-35dd-42d9-aca0-16019dd12b94_610x353.jpg

Light-skinned Mediterranean, can fit everywhere in Southern Europe (although more light pigmented than the average). In England he would be classified as Keltic Nordid.

No he doesn't look German (with the exception of Southern Germany or Austria).

[Rouxinol]

The hottest man on Earth.

[AL00]

Some italian phenotype are the rusult of the presence , durimg the centuries, of a huge number of different populations. Marchisio has the typical appearence of fair sicilians that according to italian people would come from the norman domination.I find him a nordomed with dinarid influence that give him the convex nose and his jaw shape

[Odin]

Piemonteis.

[MysteriousWays]

Light-skinned Mediterranean, can fit everywhere in Southern Europe (although more light pigmented than the average). In England he would be classified as Keltic Nordid.

No he doesn't look German (with the exception of Southern Germany or Austria).

Pretty atypical for S. Germany IMO as well.

[Sp_loa]

I think he looks North-Italian or even light Spaniard. I guess he can pass in Central Europe as well but I am not sure.

[MysteriousWays]

I think he looks North-Italian or even light Spaniard. I guess he can pass in Central Europe as well but I am not sure.

Based on those I know of Central European ancestry, I'd say he's iffy, but I think Northern Italian and Spanish are both good fits. He can pass elsewhere in Italy too.