Kosovo Albs vs Herzegovina Croats

[Rastko]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/1454589_263881583762417_1839700045_n.jpg

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1462733_10152100564616970_531723653_o.jpg

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[Rastko]

5 Albanian and 3 Croatian.

[Skerdilaid]

Very hard.

[Stefan_Dusan]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1462733_10152100564616970_531723653_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1040144_487907674655174_629050485_o.jpg



Are Croatian.

Plus I think the two girls are *maybe* Croatian (other picture). The rest by default Albanian.

[safinator]

1,5,7 Croats, rest Albanian.

[Stefan_Dusan]

1,5,7 Croats, rest Albanian.

1 was giving me problems, I wanted to say Croatian but at least one, or even two very stereotypical Albanians there.

[Leopard]

Herzegovians are Serbs.And purest ones for that matter.

[Pjeter Pan]

How do you pronounce Herzegovina?

Her ze go vina?

[Sisak]

Herzegovinians are 90% Croats.

[dralos]

more guesses plz

[Virtuous]

1: Croatian.
2: Albanian.
3: Croatian.
4: Albanian.
5: Albanian.
6: Albanian.
7: Croatian.
8: Albanian.

[Arianiti]

How do you pronounce Herzegovina?

Her ze go vina?

hercegovina shqip

[Arianiti]

1,3,7 are croatians imo

[Insuperable]

Tough to guess overall

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Albos: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8
Croats: 1, 5, 6.

[dralos]

Tough to guess overall
try solon you're the expert on pure croats :D

[Insuperable]

try solon you're the expert on pure croats :D

What I am sure about is that Albanians are 2 and 3 and Croats 7. For the rest I am not sure.

[iNird]

Tough 3,6,7 Croat.

Is that dralos in the last pic on the far left ? :p

[dralos]

Tough 3,6,7 Croat.

Is that dralos in the last pic on the far left ? :p
yes i'm married :p

[iNird]

yes i'm married :p

To the weird looking guy on the far right? I didn't know you liked them swarthy :p

[dralos]

To the weird looking guy on the far right? I didn't know you liked them swarthy :p
if i ever marry a guy it would be someone feminine looking like you :p

[RandoBloom]

Herzegovinians are 90% Croats.

Dont make us laugh :D

[iNird]

Dont make us laugh :D

So what are they? :D

[iNird]

The few Herzegovina Serbs I have met have been tall guys and Balkan looking but I still think distinguishable from Albos. These Herzegovina Croats on the other hand confuse me.

[RandoBloom]

So what are they? :D

3 6 and 7 are Croats.
As for Herzegovina about 35% are Croats. The rest are Serbs and Bosniaks.

[Stefan_Dusan]

The few Herzegovina Serbs I have met have been tall guys and Balkan looking but I still think distinguishable from Albos. These Herzegovina Croats on the other hand confuse me.

Many Serbs from eastern Herzegovina are just Montenegrin Serbs who immigrated (almost all of them trace back to Montenegro within 4-6 generations) ;)

Anyways I see iNigga and Hruljski chose same as me xD

[dralos]

well i know the answer but i will wait for rastko since it is his thread :p

[Rastko]

Croatian

Albanian

Albanian

Albanian

Croatian

Albanian

Croatian
Albanian

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Croatian

Albanian

Albanian

Albanian

Croatian

Albanian

Croatian
Albanian

Close enough...


Albos: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8
Croats: 1, 5, 6.

Just missed one each. :ohwell:

[dralos]

1 was giving me problems, I wanted to say Croatian but at least one, or even two very stereotypical Albanians there.
we can conclude from this that you have no idea about looks of alboz :D

[Insuperable]

These guys look too light for B&H Croats.

[dralos]

These guys look too light for B&H Croats.
solon can you plz post then a bh croat who does look like a typical one plz :D

[Rastko]

These guys look too light for B&H Croats.

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/33/ba/33ba23_1205386.jpg

Yeah, this is typical example of BiH Croat.

[Insuperable]

solon can you plz post then a bh croat who does look like a typical one plz :D

I have no idea from where to begin

[RandoBloom]

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/33/ba/33ba23_1205386.jpg

Yeah, this is typical example of BiH Croat.

Well he is right. Croats are darker. Not as dark as Serbs but darker. Brownish.

http://www.rb-donjahercegovina.ba/CMSImages/Normal/1747.jpg
http://hrvati.ch/images/stories/hrvati/hrvati_old/manifestacije/herceg_bosna_02_spirgarten/becari_siroki_brijeg.jpg
http://www.pogled.ba/storage/cache/images/c/4/e/6/39738_foto_hercegovacki_identitet_danas_uglavnom_n jeguju_hrvati_2_800_561_85_c1.jpg

[dralos]

I have no idea from where to begin
just a dude with what you think is close to the regular looking one :D

[dralos]

Well he is right. Croats are darker. Not as dark as Serbs but darker. Brownish.
can't be since these croats resemble us kosovalbanians quite abit so they're far from brownish

[Skerdilaid]

Did Croats from Herzegovina tattoo themselves?

[RandoBloom]

can't be since these croats resemble us kosovalbanians quite abit so they're far from brownish

He cherrypicked them. I live in a city where there is lot of them. I know what they look like.

[Insuperable]

just a dude with what you think is close to the regular looking one :D

Maybe something like Zoran Mamic. I don't know.

[Skerdilaid]

I don't think they resemble as a whole, but some do actually quite a bit.

[dralos]

He cherrypicked them. I live in a city where there is lot of them. I know what they look like.
well i've never seen one in my life but i've to admit your pics look very different

[dralos]

Maybe something like Zoran Mamic. I don't know.
zoran manic doesn't even look balkanese

[Insuperable]

Well he is right. Croats are darker. Not as dark as Serbs but darker. Brownish.

http://www.rb-donjahercegovina.ba/CMSImages/Normal/1747.jpg
http://hrvati.ch/images/stories/hrvati/hrvati_old/manifestacije/herceg_bosna_02_spirgarten/becari_siroki_brijeg.jpg
http://www.pogled.ba/storage/cache/images/c/4/e/6/39738_foto_hercegovacki_identitet_danas_uglavnom_n jeguju_hrvati_2_800_561_85_c1.jpg

I would go with this. Something like this.

[Rastko]

Okay, whatever, I'm not into who's whiter contest. Albos I'm interested, these are Croats from BiH playing for National football team.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ivan+Rakitic+Croatia+v+Korea+Republic+Internationa l+MEmD4IQLmjJl.jpg

http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=384561&fmtId=20

http://www.24sata.hr/image/pao-dogovor-nikica-jelavic-postaje-novi-igrac-hull-cityja-504x335-20130308-20130303180026-aec6555578415ca09739296373e0ec56.jpg

http://www.24sata.hr/image/i-dalje-se-ne-zna-zasto-lovren-trenira-sam-dejan-je-potisten-504x335-20111249-20111206182958-1e8d4becc48ba9dad55eaf92a24e3460.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hr/f/f5/5_Corluka.JPG

http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=491167&width=970

http://www.portaloko.hr/controls/imgSizerCrop.aspx?imgId=32987&x1=0&y1=30&x2=800&y2=537&w=410&h=260


Could they pass in Kosovo?

[Insuperable]

zoran manic doesn't even look balkanese

The last guy Hrulj posted has that Herzegovinian vibe imo

http://s29.postimg.org/ohail5gyf/unnamed_1.jpg

[dralos]

yeah except the one before the last one looks too pontidslavic

[Insuperable]

Okay, whatever, I'm not into who's whiter contest. Albos I'm interested, these are Croats from BiH playing for National football team.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ivan+Rakitic+Croatia+v+Korea+Republic+Internationa l+MEmD4IQLmjJl.jpg

http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=384561&fmtId=20

http://www.24sata.hr/image/pao-dogovor-nikica-jelavic-postaje-novi-igrac-hull-cityja-504x335-20130308-20130303180026-aec6555578415ca09739296373e0ec56.jpg

http://www.24sata.hr/image/i-dalje-se-ne-zna-zasto-lovren-trenira-sam-dejan-je-potisten-504x335-20111249-20111206182958-1e8d4becc48ba9dad55eaf92a24e3460.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hr/f/f5/5_Corluka.JPG

http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=491167&width=970

http://www.portaloko.hr/controls/imgSizerCrop.aspx?imgId=32987&x1=0&y1=30&x2=800&y2=537&w=410&h=260


Could they pass in Kosovo?

And they all just happen to be from central and northern Bosnia except the third guy

[Rastko]

And they all just happen to be from central and northern Bosnia except the third guy

Ćorluka je Hercegovac, kao i većina Posavljaka po korijenima.

[dralos]

The last guy Hrulj posted has that Herzegovinian vibe imo

http://s29.postimg.org/ohail5gyf/unnamed_1.jpg
well this guy is kinda dark probably tanned but still can pass

[Insuperable]

Ćorluka je Hercegovac, kao i većina Posavljaka po korijenima.

Znam da se rodio u Bosni, Derventi. Za ostalo ne znam.

[Rastko]

well this guy is kinda dark probably tanned but still can pass

That's one of the top Croat intelelctuals Nino Raspudić. Yeah, he has that vibe of Herzegovina, a bit Italian looking if you ask me, but 2 meters tall.

[dralos]

That's one of the top Croat intelelctuals Nino Raspudić. Yeah, he has that vibe of Herzegovina, a bit Italian looking if you ask me, but 2 meters tall.
yeah that too

[Stefan_Dusan]

What's the name of this couple?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1462733_10152100564616970_531723653_o.jpg

^^

To my eyes, they don't look very Albanian at all but very south-slavic. Both him, and her. Plus they're chasing with fructal xD

[Skerdilaid]

Never mind Solin, I meant to quote Rastko.

The first looks a bit off but the rest pass, and the last one looks almost stereotypical.

[Insuperable]

That's one of the top Croat intelelctuals Nino Raspudić. Yeah, he has that vibe of Herzegovina, a bit Italian looking if you ask me, but 2 meters tall.

Shaved and stuff he reminds me of Giuliano Đanić (who is a Dalmatian Croat). Giuliano who just happens to have Italian name looks Italian to me.

http://s13.postimg.org/wra5cow2v/hqdefault.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/k055r84a1/igra_2.jpg

[safinator]

Seems i guessed them right of the bat :cool:

[KrashNick]

Too damn late ...

[dralos]

What's the name of this couple?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1462733_10152100564616970_531723653_o.jpg

^^

To my eyes, they don't look very Albanian at all but very south-slavic. Both him, and her. Plus they're chasing with fructal xD
i can assure you they're alboz and nothing southslavic about them

[Stefan_Dusan]

i can assure you they're alboz and nothing southslavic about them

They are very south-slavic in appearance and drinking a south-slavic drink ;) I still don't believe they are Albanians, that's how much south-slavic they look.

If you won't tell me their names, do you know them personally (relatives, friends)? Or did you lift their pictures from random FB pages on nightclubs?

[dralos]

They are very south-slavic in appearance and drinking a south-slavic drink ;) I still don't believe they are Albanians, that's how much south-slavic they look.

If you won't tell me their names, do you know them personally (relatives, friends)? Or did you lift their pictures from random FB pages on nightclubs?
relatives so be silent and for that slavic drink kosova imports stuff from a lot of slavic countries we have croatian beer lasko for example or the poisonious plasmas

[Stefan_Dusan]

relatives so be silent and for that slavic drink kosova imports stuff from a lot of slavic countries we have croatian beer lasko for example or the poisonious plasmas

hmm I didn't know Gjakovare looked so slavic :p

Do your relatives normally pose in nightclubs for pictures :D

[dralos]

hmm I didn't know Gjakovare looked so slavic :p

Do your relatives normally pose in nightclubs for pictures :D
judging by your pic i didn't know that serbs look so albanian
and yes they do,we're all party animals

[KrashNick]

They are very south-slavic in appearance and drinking a south-slavic drink ;) I still don't believe they are Albanians, that's how much south-slavic they look.

If you won't tell me their names, do you know them personally (relatives, friends)? Or did you lift their pictures from random FB pages on nightclubs?

Ah still the same Stefan xD

I know that guy , he is from Prishtina and here is a pic of him that I posted before .

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45915-Kosovar-Albanians%28Pictures%29/page119&highlight=Kosovar

[Stefan_Dusan]

judging by your pic i didn't know that serbs look so albanian
and yes they do,we're all party animals

I need to visit Gjakova :cool:

Seems you guys know how to have good. My sisters weren't allowed make-up let alone go out without male relative until they were married. I don't know what's wrong with us and why we refuse to catch up to 21st century :P

[dralos]

I need to visit Gjakova :cool:

Seems you guys know how to have good. My sisters weren't allowed make-up let alone go out without male relative until they were married. I don't know what's wrong with us and why we refuse to catch up to 21st century :P
i may have some ideas why but sent your sisters here to me and i'll fix them :D
you sound like some arab let them girls enjoy their life

[iNird]

I need to visit Gjakova :cool:

Seems you guys know how to have good. My sisters weren't allowed make-up let alone go out without male relative until they were married. I don't know what's wrong with us and why we refuse to catch up to 21st century :P

Be careful man the Serbs will call you a Siptari for saying such things. Remember we Albanians are wild mountaineers and you Serbs are the civilized westerners ;)

[Stefan_Dusan]

i may have some ideas why but sent your sisters here to me and i'll fix them :D

All 3 are married xD

One of them who is younger than me was married in USA. I still remember funny spectacle, there was this random Serbian (Montenegro father, Herzegovina mother) in my house chatting with my mother and my uncle. I didn't think of anything.

I came back next week, he is there again so I was actually angry, since this random stranger I don't know is always at our family table when I want my privacy. My sister wasn't even there, but I find out he was negotiating with my mother and uncle on marrying her. And then they got married, he only met my sister in person maybe couple times.

I'm now 21st century male and such customs are kind of appalling, I remember feeling disgusted they could marry off my sister like this xD But now I kind of see it both ways.

[dralos]

All 3 are married xD

One of them who is younger than me was married in USA. I still remember funny spectacle, there was this random Serbian (Montenegro father, Herzegovina mother) in my house chatting with my mother and my uncle. I didn't think of anything.

I came back next week, he is there again so I was actually angry, since this random stranger I don't know is always at our family table when I want my privacy. My sister wasn't even there, but I find out he was negotiating with my mother and uncle on marrying her. And then they got married, he only met my sister in person maybe couple times.

I'm now 21st century male and such customs are kind of appalling, I remember feeling disgusted they could marry off my sister like this xD But now I kind of see it both ways.
good you married them all they'll be producing little albanian looking serbs :P

[iNird]

All 3 are married xD

One of them who is younger than me was married in USA. I still remember funny spectacle, there was this random Serbian (Montenegro father, Herzegovina mother) in my house chatting with my mother and my uncle. I didn't think of anything.

I came back next week, he is there again so I was actually angry, since this random stranger I don't know is always at our family table when I want my privacy. My sister wasn't even there, but I find out he was negotiating with my mother and uncle on marrying her. And then they got married, he only met my sister in person maybe couple times.

I'm now 21st century male and such customs are kind of appalling, I remember feeling disgusted they could marry off my sister like this xD But now I kind of see it both ways.

These stories are what I'm talking about. These are archaic traditions only we Siptars engage in such behavior.

;)

[dralos]

These stories are what I'm talking about. These are archaic traditions only we Siptars engage in such behavior.

;)
apparently our neighbours too :p

[Stefan_Dusan]

Ah still the same Stefan xD

I know that guy , he is from Prishtina and here is a pic of him that I posted before .

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?45915-Kosovar-Albanians%28Pictures%29/page119&highlight=Kosovar

Him? :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1535688_10152115421851970_246389432_n.jpg

The girl makes this Serb :love:

Back maybe 5 years ago I was in club in Beograd for new Years with my cousins and their friends. We had access, all drinks you could drink (free) so I get drunk way too fast at that age not used to pacing myself. So me being 21, see this beautiful girl (kind of like that one) who was maybe in her later 20s. So I drunkenly try to make some moves :P

My favorite is when she uses the age old excuse, "I have a boyfriend"

So I don't believe it, challenge her:

"Is your boyfriend prettier than me?"

She pauses for a moment and says "Yes"

So I go "Bring him here then I'll make him less pretty!"

My poor cousins and their friends hearing this and not wanting trouble on their New Years immediately grab and me and drag me out of the club, And let me rest in our apartment we had rented. I end up puking and everything and never rejoining. According to my cousin, later after they removed a bunch of girls our age showed up.

[dralos]

Him? :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1535688_10152115421851970_246389432_n.jpg

The girl makes this Serb :love:

Back maybe 5 years ago I was in club in Beograd for new Years with my cousins and their friends. We had access, all drinks you could drink (free) so I get drunk way too fast at that age not used to pacing myself. So me being 21, see this beautiful girl (kind of like that one) who was maybe in her later 20s. So I drunkenly try to make some moves :P

My favorite is when she uses the age old excuse, "I have a boyfriend"

So I don't believe it, challenge her:

"Is your boyfriend prettier than me?"

She pauses for a moment and says "Yes"

So I go "Bring him here then I'll make him less pretty!"

My poor cousins and their friends hearing this and not wanting trouble on their New Years immediately grab and me and drag me out of the club, And let me rest in our apartment we had rented. I end up puking and everything and never rejoining. According to my cousin, later after they removed a bunch of girls our age showed up.
crazy bastard anyway i think for me it would be very easy in serbia,southslavic girls adore me for some reason,if i was there you would have gotten that girl :p
anyway when drunk its very difficult to get a girl bcd she won't take you seriously :p

[Pjeter Pan]

I need to visit Gjakova :cool:

Seems you guys know how to have good. My sisters weren't allowed make-up let alone go out without male relative until they were married. I don't know what's wrong with us and why we refuse to catch up to 21st century :P


All 3 are married xD

One of them who is younger than me was married in USA. I still remember funny spectacle, there was this random Serbian (Montenegro father, Herzegovina mother) in my house chatting with my mother and my uncle. I didn't think of anything.

I came back next week, he is there again so I was actually angry, since this random stranger I don't know is always at our family table when I want my privacy. My sister wasn't even there, but I find out he was negotiating with my mother and uncle on marrying her. And then they got married, he only met my sister in person maybe couple times.

I'm now 21st century male and such customs are kind of appalling, I remember feeling disgusted they could marry off my sister like this xD But now I kind of see it both ways.

My uncles are like this.
I'm glad I don't have a sister I would feel sorry for her. My dad's mentality
Is very traditional and backwards :p

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Him? :D

The girl makes this Serb :love:

Back maybe 5 years ago I was in club in Beograd for new Years with my cousins and their friends. We had access, all drinks you could drink (free) so I get drunk way too fast at that age not used to pacing myself. So me being 21, see this beautiful girl (kind of like that one) who was maybe in her later 20s. So I drunkenly try to make some moves :P

My favorite is when she uses the age old excuse, "I have a boyfriend"

So I don't believe it, challenge her:

"Is your boyfriend prettier than me?"

She pauses for a moment and says "Yes"

So I go "Bring him here then I'll make him less pretty!"

My poor cousins and their friends hearing this and not wanting trouble on their New Years immediately grab and me and drag me out of the club, And let me rest in our apartment we had rented. I end up puking and everything and never rejoining. According to my cousin, later after they removed a bunch of girls our age showed up.

I'm jelly of your memory :p, how in freaking hell you remember every single occasion debates you had with people that's beyond me, not once but everytime you had a simple occasion, even in years?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

My uncles are like this.
I'm glad I don't have a sister I would feel sorry for her. My dad's mentality
Is very traditional and backwards :p

Nothing new, its typical for Tunisian mentality. :p

[Stefan_Dusan]

I'm jelly of your memory :p, how in freaking hell you remember every single occasion debates you had with people that's beyond me, not once but everytime you had a simple occasion, even in years?

My memory is very bad in many ways, and good in others. I often forget people's birthdays close to me, but I remember conversations like above. IDK, it doesn't make much sense. Friend of mine said to me once:

You have good memory, you remember what you want. You just don't care about the rest and don't remember that.

So there you go, maybe selective xD I just forget unimportant and remember important.

[Pjeter Pan]

These stories are what I'm talking about. These are archaic traditions only we Siptars engage in such behavior.

;) Kosova!!!!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bSK5uJcxYo



:p

[The Illyrian Warrior]

My memory is very bad in many ways, and good in others. I often forget people's birthdays close to me, but I remember conversations like above. IDK, it doesn't make much sense. Friend of mine said to me once:

You have good memory, you remember what you want. You just don't care about the rest and don't remember that.

So there you go, maybe selective xD I just forget unimportant and remember important.

Makes sense, that's good thing IMO however I used to be memory capacity even about detailed things starting from simple or unimportant convos, situations, dates and whatelse to important ones however in recent years I've became much more limited in terms of memory I do remember only those who I think as very important to me but random ones are good as gone with no space in my brain anymore. :ohwell:

[iNird]

Nothing new, its typical for Tunisian mentality. :p

This is common mouthsore mentality. Even when they are in Canada they still act like they are living in the mountains ;)

[cally]

relatives so be silent and for that slavic drink kosova imports stuff from a lot of slavic countries we have croatian beer lasko for example or the poisonious plasmas
Poisonous plasmas xD rofl

plasmas were my childhood bro :laugh:

id id be more worried what's in those pashtetas

[ChocolateFace]

They are very south-slavic in appearance and drinking a south-slavic drink ;) I still don't believe they are Albanians, that's how much south-slavic they look.

If you won't tell me their names, do you know them personally (relatives, friends)? Or did you lift their pictures from random FB pages on nightclubs?

They are the most Albanian looking people out of them all imo.

[ChocolateFace]

I need to visit Gjakova :cool:

Seems you guys know how to have good. My sisters weren't allowed make-up let alone go out without male relative until they were married. I don't know what's wrong with us and why we refuse to catch up to 21st century :P

Many Albanians are still like this too, and this type of behavior is good. Me and my relatives behave like this. Old school.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Poisonous plasmas xD rofl

plasmas were my childhood bro :laugh:

id id be more worried what's in those pashtetas

I eat those God damn pashteta at work sometimes, I think its better I don't know much about.

[dralos]

Poisonous plasmas xD rofl

plasmas were my childhood bro :laugh:

id id be more worried what's in those pashtetas
i've stopped with pashtetas too and plasmas i've never liked and i have actually thrown a lot of new bought plasmas away and i forbade them to be eaten in kosova