40% of the World's Mariners are Filipinos

[Selurong]

Sunday, April 6, 2014


THERE are more than 400,000 Filipino seafarers deployed overseas, roughly 35-40 percent of the world’s mariners, and 60,000 more working in domestic routes.

Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) Secretary Joseph Emilio Abaya made the disclosure in his speech during the commencement exercise of more than 1,000 graduates of marines courses at the University of Cebu-Maritime Education Training Center (UC-METC) last April 3.

Abaya praised UC-METC, which he said is known for excellence in academic training.

He said UC-METC was named Region 7’s “Maritime Training Center of the
Year” by the Maritime Industry Authority (Marina).

“From January to November 2013 alone, the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas reported that sea-based overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) remitted US$4.765 billion to the Philippines, which is equivalent to a whopping P213 billion infused into our local economy,” he said.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2014/04/06/filipino-seafarers-account-35-40-int-l-mariners-336851

If Filipinos as a constituency would stage a strike...

(Which they should because they are overworked, underpaid and ignored)

Then the worldwide shipping industry would grind to a halt.

http://www.pinoy-ofw.com/news/1534-%E2%80%98pinoy-sailors-unsung-heroes-of-industry%E2%80%99.html



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLLRyl84c8

[The Lawspeaker]

For what I have noticed they are better mariners than drivers. Put a Filipino on a boat (not one of those leaky ferries) and you will get to your destination in one piece. Put a Filipino behind the wheel and he will go from civilised human being to psychopathic mass-murderer in under 2 seconds. ;)

[Selurong]

For what I have noticed they are better mariners than drivers. Put a Filipino on a boat (not one of those leaky ferries) and you will get to your destination in one piece. Put a Filipino behind the wheel and he will go from civilised human being to psychopathic mass-murderer in under 2 seconds. ;)

We were never fit to be on land. Unlike in continental cities and civilizations: Rome, China or Mexica, were roads where the people's highways, our highways were the seas and rivers.

Before the Europeans came. Our cities are mostly port-settlements and our highways were the rivers and seas.

Here's an example of a Pre-European settlement.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTifablLNXBp-pWG_fzZz0RNAOlOw3SIVcxHS5FXa-3phNUCTzJPQ

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2JCn5eVENklLT4zh32nTkViS96UZai 1Ec2A-7UHdh2m41f0Kw

But we thanks the Europeans for teaching us to be more land-based creatures. :P

But we adjusted pretty badly.

[The Lawspeaker]

We were never fit to be on land. Unlike in continental cities and civilization, Rome, China or Mexica, where roads where the people's highways, our highways were the seas and rivers.

Before the Europeans came. Our cities are mostly port-settlements and our highways were the rivers and seas.

Here's an example of a Pre-European settlement.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTifablLNXBp-pWG_fzZz0RNAOlOw3SIVcxHS5FXa-3phNUCTzJPQ

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2JCn5eVENklLT4zh32nTkViS96UZai 1Ec2A-7UHdh2m41f0Kw

But we thanks the Europeans for teaching us to be more land-based creatures. :P
Being a Dutchman I know how you feel. Like the Filipinos, the Indonesians but also the Danes, the Norwegians, the Portuguese and the English we are a maritime nation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Storck%2C_Four_Days_Battle.jpg

http://www.geschiedenisleraar.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/fluitschip_geschiedenisleraar.jpg

[Selurong]

Being a Dutchman I know how you feel. Like the Filipinos, the Indonesians but also the Danes, the Norwegians, the Portuguese and the English we are a maritime nation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Storck%2C_Four_Days_Battle.jpg

Omigod. I Idolize the Dutch! Especially in their reclamation projects in the seas.

http://www.maritimejournal.com/__data/assets/image/0005/151169/mj20051001_48.jpg

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-AY108_IKEDIK_G_20090603180616.jpg

http://aslathedirt.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/dutchdike1.jpg?w=500

Pure engineering genius.

What's even great are your future projects in Jakarta

(Garuda island reclamation area)

http://en.ncicd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/greatgaruda2.jpg

And finished projects in Dubai

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1CRpQGsPBBg/Ruju_5hVB4I/AAAAAAAAB9s/Cbm-6Uv_7GY/s400/tebodin_palm.jpg

Dutch geniuses!

I think we have the capacity to duplicate the Netherlands in land reclamation too.

http://www.spanamwar.com/Deweysroute.JPG

In case of global warming and rising sea levels. We can damn off Manila bay by building a sea wall across into Corregidor island like what you Dutch did in this place.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Zuiderzeeworks.png

I love Dutch engineering genius.

[The Lawspeaker]

Omigod. I Idolize the Dutch! Especially in their reclamation projects in the seas.

http://www.maritimejournal.com/__data/assets/image/0005/151169/mj20051001_48.jpg

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-AY108_IKEDIK_G_20090603180616.jpg

http://aslathedirt.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/dutchdike1.jpg?w=500

Pure engineering genius.

What's even great are your future projects in Jakarta

(Garuda island reclamation area)

http://www.dutchwatersector.com/uploads/2013/11/jakarta.jpg

And finished projects in Dubai

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1CRpQGsPBBg/Ruju_5hVB4I/AAAAAAAAB9s/Cbm-6Uv_7GY/s400/tebodin_palm.jpg

Dutch geniuses!

I think we have the capacity to duplicate the Netherlands in land reclamation too.

http://www.spanamwar.com/Deweysroute.JPG

In case of global warming and rising sea levels. We can damn off Manila bay by building a sea wall across into Corregidor island like what you Dutch did in this place.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Zuiderzeeworks.png

I love Dutch engineering genius.

When you're living in a small and extremely flat country that is harassed by one big storm after the other you tend to start thinking about how to protect yourself. I had the misfortune of ending up a cyclone last year when I was in Manila (I already dodged two: one went for Mindanao and the other hit Luzon and we were on Siargao) and it was no laughing matter so the Philippines needs to start thinking about adequate defences. For their own sake. Some years ago my girlfriend was stuck in her apartment for two weeks because of a cyclone that turned half of Manila into a toilet bowl. And I think we both remember the big one that wrecked Leyte last year. It was the Philippines version of 1953. One of our mutual friends has family in that particular area so she was quite worried.

[Hexachordia]

I hope they will grow some brain to write down stories they experienced at sea. Some chinese sailors had did it, there had been murders, ufos, cryptomarine creatures, betrayals, hell of a stories. They should fucking write a library.

[The Lawspeaker]

I hope they will grow some brain to write down stories they experienced at sea. Some chinese sailors had did it, there had been murders, ufos, cryptomarine creatures, betrayals, hell of a stories. They should fucking write a library.

The Philippines has a very interesting literary history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_literature) but it should always be expanded upon.

[Hexachordia]

The Philippines has a very interesting literary history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_literature) but it should always be expanded upon.

Modern ages is ridden with more supernatural interferences, sporadic murders. There is a chinese forum where retired sailors tell their experiences, supernatural, cryptozoology, ufo, fights, murders, I was amazed they were not educated untill highschool, but speaking of these stuff like professionals. One has to rely on humans primitive instincts to survive on sea, and would return as a philosopher, or die and forgotton.

[The Lawspeaker]

Modern ages is ridden with more supernatural interferences, sporadic murders. There is a chinese forum where retired sailors tell their experiences, supernatural, cryptozoology, ufo, fights, murders, I was amazed they were not educated untill highschool, but speaking of these stuff like professionals. One has to rely on humans primitive instincts to survive on sea, and would return as a philosopher, or die and forgotton.

True. I have noticed the same tendency in Dutch fisherman's tales or sailors tales (which were usually recorded and past on). Most of those people could barely read and write but they managed to pass on the most amazing details of natural and "super" natural (unexplained) occurrences. Maybe that's something typical of naval peoples.

[Hexachordia]

True. I have noticed the same tendency in Dutch fisherman's tales or sailors tales (which were usually recorded and past on). Most of those people could barely read and write but they managed to pass on the most amazing details of natural and "super" natural (unexplained) occurrences. Maybe that's somethinworg typical of naval peoples.

Chinese stategists say of Japan a nation civilized and educated by tsunami, in ancient Japan, a village is so tightly nitted, people trust each other because they have to watch out tsunami for each other.
The horror of disaster bound them togather and created a people of unity. Vikings are probably the same people educated by ocean, they had to trust the leading sailors they would die togather or survive togather, such mentality creat a psychological bond greater than agricultural civilizations. Oceanic people usually show formidable power to porgress. Survivors of oceanic adventures are blessed in some way, witnessing people lost, dying, or killed, there is one reason to make you calm, this is on ocean.

But technology does not stop putting people of low education on board just for cost down purpose, primitive games will still continue, it is not like street spree crimes, probably thousands of people get lost by reasons people on land will never ask for. Like filipinos, their govt kill on will, we do not expect they would actually check the numbers all the time, medieval stuff is going on boats, and people blame the sea, people get away, especially when sailors on board are poor people.

[The Lawspeaker]

Chinese stategists say of Japan a nation civilized and educated by tsunami, in ancient Japan, a village is so tightly nitted, people trust each other because they have to watch out tsunami for each other.
The horror of disaster bound them togather and created a people of unity. Vikings are probably the same people educated by ocean, they had to trust the leading sailors they would die togather or survive togather, such mentality creat a psychological bond greater than agricultural civilizations. Oceanic people usually show formidable power to porgress. Survivors of oceanic adventures are blessed in some way, witnessing people lost, dying, or killed, there is one reason to make you calm, this is on ocean.

But technology does not stop putting people of low education on board just for cost down purpose, primitive games will still continue, it is not like street spree crimes, probably thousands of people get lost by reasons people on land will never ask for. Like filipinos, their govt kill on will, we do not expect they would actually check the numbers all the time, medieval stuff is going on boats, and people blame the sea, people get away, especially when sailors on board are poor people.
The same applies to the Dutch. Our social model of relative equality and consensus-based politics and economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polder_model)is based on the fact that the local lords, cities, land-owners and the population had to trust and rely on each other to keep the dikes safe and everyone involved had to do his bit keep those dikes up. If they failed.. well history has shown us what happens then (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_the_Netherlands). In fact: those that didn't pull their weight only had to turn their spade and put it in the dike and leave their land to whoever was willing and able to do the job.

[Scandalf]

3 years ago I was on a cruise and had a chat with 2 philipinos working at the bar. I told them that I saw "Gagam Boy" and I actually loved that movie. One of them ran to the kitchen laughing, then came back. From that moment they always offered me coffee and asked me if I could hang out with them :-)

[Hexachordia]

The same applies to the Dutch. Our social model of relative equality and consensus-based politics and economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polder_model)is based on the fact that the local lords, cities, land-owners and the population had to trust and rely on each other to keep the dikes safe and everyone involved had to do his bit keep those dikes up. If they failed.. well history has shown us what happens then (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_the_Netherlands). In fact: those that didn't pull their weight only had to turn their spade and put it in the dike and leave their land to whoever was willing and able to do the job.

Lowland countries are similar to modern Japan a bit, good at electronics. Electronic industry requires patience and austerity, long time systematic disater management and fishering help people develop these qualities. And such society offers motivation to surpass their predecessors like Rome and China, which lost unity through age long self-struggle and separatism. Oceanic cultures are both nature-friendly and warrior like, strength and softness, uprightness and humility, like ocean itself, they gain the greatest impetus to progress in modern world, they lead the modern world.

[Queen B]

That's true.
In most Greek ships, there are Phillipinos

[Selurong]

I hope they will grow some brain to write down stories they experienced at sea. Some chinese sailors had did it, there had been murders, ufos, cryptomarine creatures, betrayals, hell of a stories. They should fucking write a library.

Lolz.

[Selurong]

I hope they will grow some brain to write down stories they experienced at sea. Some chinese sailors had did it, there had been murders, ufos, cryptomarine creatures, betrayals, hell of a stories. They should fucking write a library.

How insulting. We don't need to "grow a brain", furthermore, your own kind said that they feared our sailors. :P

By 1612, this state [Visayas] had grown so powerful militarily and economically, their naval power regularly threatened Chinese Imperial shipping. So much so, that the Chuan-chou gazeeter specifically reported that the Pisheya (Bisaya) [Another term for people from Iloilo] consistently made devastating raids against the Empire's commerce.

Source: Chuan-chou Fu-chi (Ch.10) Year 1512

Before you extol the virtues of your own sailors. Let me remind you that we were at the sea first.

And that Malayo-Polynesians had been at the Easter islands and Madagascar while only travelling in rafts. It takes intelligence, bravery skill and true courage to do that.

So before you accuse us of lacking a brain go grow a real heart.

I would have gone easier on you if you haven't been so biased and hateful.

I'm also part Chinese in my mother's side by the way and I'm glad that most Chinese people do not have your hateful mentality.

[Selurong]

The same applies to the Dutch. Our social model of relative equality and consensus-based politics and economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polder_model)is based on the fact that the local lords, cities, land-owners and the population had to trust and rely on each other to keep the dikes safe and everyone involved had to do his bit keep those dikes up. If they failed.. well history has shown us what happens then (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_the_Netherlands). In fact: those that didn't pull their weight only had to turn their spade and put it in the dike and leave their land to whoever was willing and able to do the job.

Yet, despite that consensus politics and democratic ideals. You still have a king. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander_of_the_Netherlands)
I'm glad you didn't go and kill like the French.

[Selurong]

3 years ago I was on a cruise and had a chat with 2 philipinos working at the bar. I told them that I saw "Gagam Boy" and I actually loved that movie. One of them ran to the kitchen laughing, then came back. From that moment they always offered me coffee and asked me if I could hang out with them :-)

Lol you are going places.
Gagamboy is funny lolz.
But I find it cheesy.

I love the singer Fabri Fibra by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTbElhF9dE

[The Lawspeaker]

Yet, despite that consensus politics and democratic ideals. You still have a king. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem-Alexander_of_the_Netherlands)
I'm glad you didn't go and kill like the French.

That's because we curtailed his power. Completely.

[Hexachordia]

How insulting. We don't need to "grow a brain", furthermore, your own kind said that they feared our sailors. :P

By 1612, this state [Visayas] had grown so powerful militarily and economically, their naval power regularly threatened Chinese Imperial shipping. So much so, that the Chuan-chou gazeeter specifically reported that the Pisheya (Bisaya) [Another term for people from Iloilo] consistently made devastating raids against the Empire's commerce.

Source: Chuan-chou Fu-chi (Ch.10) Year 1512

Before you extol the virtues of your own sailors. Let me remind you that we were at the sea first.

And that Malayo-Polynesians had been at the Easter islands and Madagascar while only travelling in rafts. It takes intelligence, bravery skill and true courage to do that.

So before you accuse us of lacking a brain go grow a real heart.

I would have gone easier on you if you haven't been so biased and hateful.

I'm also part Chinese in my mother's side by the way and I'm glad that most Chinese people do not have your hateful mentality.

Polynesians sailed across the Pacific first, from Taiwan. I am not trying to insult filipinos, but you have to admit that if you have your people occupying 40% of the world sailors, there should be equivalently important records and documents left by filipinos. Sad thing is that elite people of Philippines do not really care about their own people. The disaster of Doña Paz is the greatest ship disaster after WW2, but details about the disaster is scarce. When you are claiming this huge contribution, you should also consider intellectual legacy of this contribution or everything is just labor work nothing to be boasted about.

This is my good-willed advises. You can collect their stories and publish, let more people know about them.