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Loki
04-22-2014, 12:26 PM
Why Assad can have confidence in his survival (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27018798)

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Bashar al-Assad and his leadership are there to stay. It did not really need one of his closest allies and saviours, the Lebanese Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, to say it.

It is now the working assumption of most observers and analysts, Western diplomats who have toiled to dislodge him, and even some of the more realistic elements among the Syrian opposition.

The reason is simple.

Unless some of the elements in the equation change radically - and there is no sign of that happening in the near future - there is no foreseeable set of circumstances that would exert sufficient pressure on Mr Assad to stand down, or the regime to negotiate its own demise.

Equally, military victory by the fractious and feuding rebel groups is now a distant dream. Some of their regional backers may still want it, but the Western powers which pull many of the strings behind the scenes never did anyway.

A negotiated settlement is just as remote.

The Geneva talks, which began in January and nosedived in February, are dead in the water.

Geo-political tensions

In the current configuration, the only feasible settlement would require the opposition and their backers to accept that Bashar al-Assad and his power circle remain in place with some cosmetic reforms, something the rebels cannot do without negating their own raison d'etre.

Anything else would require strong external pressures on the regime to make serious concessions, less likely now than ever because of the breakdown in entente between Washington and Moscow over Ukraine.

That crisis has given the Russian President Vladimir Putin strong motivation to assert himself against the Americans over Syria rather than go along with them.

The pressures on Mr Assad are now so light that he is preparing to have himself re-elected for another full seven-year term, rather than opting for a compromise two-year extension, an idea kicked around a few months ago when diplomacy was active.

At the weekend, he said the crisis was turning around, because of advances scored by the army as well as "national reconciliations", a reference to the local truces which have partly pacified some of the Damascus suburbs after rebel-held areas had been blockaded to choking point.

But none of this means that outright military victory is within sight for the government either.

War of attrition

The most likely prognosis, as Hassan Nasrallah said, is for a prolonged war of attrition if the rebels refuse to come to terms with the government, as is likely.

For the moment, the conflict has settled into a kind of unstable stalemate, with the balance tilted somewhat in the regime's favour thanks to its unchecked use of its air power, a generous flow of military supplies from Russia, and much help from Iran and allied Shia fighters from Lebanon and Iraq.

President Assad himself, according to a visiting Russian official, predicted that "the active phase of military action" would be finished this year, and that it would then be a question of "fighting terrorists and suicide bombers".

That may be tinged with wishful thinking. But the government has been steadily consolidating its control around Damascus and core areas in western and central Syria, despite rebel penetrations in the far north, control in the east, and much fighting in the south.

"If present trends continue - and there really is little to suggest they will not - then the regime will be in a dominant position and in effective control of a critical mass of the country by the end of 2015, if not sooner," wrote analyst Yezid Sayigh of the Carnegie Endowment.

So it may not be fanciful to imagine a future where resistance to President Assad is reduced to outlying areas such as the far-flung eastern marches where the extreme militants of ISIS - the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (also known as ISIL) - have been consolidating their presence, which straddles the Iraqi border.

It is a pattern already set by Iraq, with ISIS, Sunni disaffection and Iranian support for the central government, as common factors.

Fractured opposition

It is a startling turnaround. Many observers - including this one - who barely 16 months ago believed the collapse of the regime under rebel pressure was imminent, have had to eat their words.

Will we be doing the same again 16 months from now?

It seems unlikely, on current form.

President Assad's backers - principally Russia and Iran and its allies - proved far more solid, consistent and forthcoming than the motley crew of Western and regional powers supporting the opposition and the rebels on the ground. That will not change.

The regime itself and its armed forces remained solid and cohesive, in contrast to the endemic bickering afflicting the never very credible opposition leadership in exile and the chaotic free-for-all prevailing among a myriad of rival rebel groups on the ground, with Islamic radicals increasingly to the fore.

Theoretically that could all be turned around, but it would take a radical reversal of everything that has happened over the past three years.

The opposition political leadership would have to unite and become credibly representative of the real forces inside the country. A centralised and authoritative military structure would have to be established, unifying, commanding and supplying rebel forces on the ground.

Radical groups linked to al-Qaeda would have to be isolated and suppressed. The Western powers, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other opposition supporters would all have to be pursuing the same coherent agenda, not just their own.

At the moment, that prescription looks like pie in the sky.

Western reticence

But in the absence of those conditions, it is hard to imagine the Americans and others giving the green light for a serious infusion of the kind of quality weapons - such as MANPAD anti-aircraft missiles and much more - that the rebels need if they are to stand a chance of tilting the balance back in their favour.

For now, there is no sign of such unity of purpose. Increasingly, the Western powers seem to view the Syrian crisis through the optic of counter-terrorism, haunted by the fear that quality weapons will fall into the hands of militant jihadists, and that hundreds of trained, battle-hardened and indoctrinated Islamist radicals from their own nations will head home with evil purpose.

It is not just a question of ISIS, which has alienated other rebel groups by its extreme behaviour and is seen by many as manipulated by the regime, but also factions such as the official al-Qaeda franchise, the Nusra Front, which is much more deeply embedded in the core of rebel activity, where many Islamist groups predominate.

So the best bet is that the Americans and their allies will continue to ration cannily their support to the armed rebels, giving them enough to keep afloat and prevent a collapse, but not to turn the tide decisively against the regime.

The rebels' fate is perilously hostage to the vacillations of Western policies and the vagaries of regional politics, such as the current row between Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Their position could be severely undercut in the event of, for example, a rapprochement between Iran and the Saudis, which is being explored.

Price to pay

All of this does not mean that President Assad is there to stay forever.

He may be confident that the worst of the storm has passed. But it is not yet over, and the damage it has wrought will transform the country. The clock cannot be turned back.

Once the heat is off, there may be a reckoning from elements currently loyal to the leadership who have paid a high price for its brutal blunders.

There has also been a fragmentation and devolution of power on the ground in loyalist areas, which may make it hard for Damascus to reassert itself in the old manner.

Provided the overall strategic balance remains undisturbed, the key outside allies that have sustained the regime, notably Russia and Iran, may also - as they have often said - prove not to be wedded to the person of Bashar al-Assad once the pressure is off.

"We aren't seeking to have Bashar al-Assad remain president for life," Iran's deputy Foreign Minister Amir Abdollahian said recently.

"But we do not subscribe to the idea of using extremist forces and terrorism to topple Assad and the Syrian government."

But all that may lie in the future. For the moment, Mr Assad and his entourage may be excused for feeling that they can breathe easy.

Loki
04-22-2014, 12:30 PM
Good news. Middle finger to US foreign policy and Islamism.

Jackson
04-22-2014, 12:50 PM
Probably best that he remains in power at least until the crisis is over. Thing is, if he is successful in the war and future elections are fully democratic, the majority of the people may prefer a tried and tested president capable of reform, over a new one.

Drawing-slim
04-22-2014, 12:52 PM
Bad guys are winning. Putin & Assad. The world is going down to hell for sure.

dralos
04-22-2014, 12:54 PM
i was against hassad but now i've seen some things about those so called peaceful muslim rebels there and their brainwashing in european muslims,i've to say that i don't support any side anymore but i don't think that if the rebels win that things will get better lol maybe worse since these people don't seem to be very interested in progress

Lurker
04-22-2014, 01:20 PM
Probably best that he remains in power at least until the crisis is over. Thing is, if he is successful in the war and future elections are fully democratic, the majority of the people may prefer a tried and tested president capable of reform, over a new one.

Want to make a bet about this ever happening in Syria during our lifetimes? We're talking about countries that have remained in state of exception since the 1950s/1960s and more specifically a country where a son inherits the job of president from his father, after the father stays decades in power.

There are no good alternatives in Syria, only bad alternatives.

On a related note, I saw a piece of news these days about Christian sects in Syria saying that God is on the side of Assad, since he's protecting them.

Jackson
04-22-2014, 01:28 PM
Want to make a bet about this ever happening in Syria during our lifetimes? We're talking about countries that have remained in state of exception since the 1950s/1960s and more specifically a country where a son inherits the job of president from his father, after the father stays decades in power.

There are no good alternatives in Syria, only bad alternatives.

On a related note, I saw a piece of news these days about Christian sects in Syria saying that God is on the side of Assad, since he's protecting them.

That's why i said 'if'. :P

Dombra
04-22-2014, 01:29 PM
Bad guys are winning. Putin & Assad. The world is going down to hell for sure.

So you are still hoping for the peaceful minoritymurdering rebels to win? :rolleyes:

Borna
04-22-2014, 01:45 PM
Hope he will manage to eradicate as much towel heads as possible, mainly because Muslims from Europe who went there.
Take them Assad, we dont want them back in Europe.

Musso
04-22-2014, 01:55 PM
I respect Assad a lot. Not many leaders would be able to withstand the onslaught that he has withstood. From neocons to Jihadists to Israel, he's been able to hold his ground. I really hope he wins and I hope Putin continues strong support to him.

zhaoyun
04-22-2014, 02:04 PM
Honestly, Assad is the only viable option for a stable and SANE Syria right now.

Rudel
04-22-2014, 02:20 PM
On a related note, I saw a piece of news these days about Christian sects in Syria saying that God is on the side of Assad, since he's protecting them.
It's known that all the Christians, and minorities for that matter, in Syria are for Assad (at least as long as the war goes on). The government winning the war is the only way they have to prevent having their throats cut.

Şeyh Bedrettin
04-22-2014, 04:38 PM
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legolasbozo
04-22-2014, 05:13 PM
Assad is a hero now? Oh come on, From father to son they have fucked syria for years. They are some kind of middle eastern north korea. Those radicals and assad should kill each other's till the last man stand, then syrian people itself could handle the situation. Neither with assad nor radical brainwashed terrorist syria has a bright future.

Musso
04-22-2014, 06:18 PM
Assad is a hero now? Oh come on, From father to son they have fucked syria for years. They are some kind of middle eastern north korea. Those radicals and assad should kill each other's till the last man stand, then syrian people itself could handle the situation. Neither with assad nor radical brainwashed terrorist syria has a bright future.

Looks like the choice is between Assad and a unstable Syria led by these jihadists/Islamists making Syria a breeding ground and launching pad for terrorists to attack Europe. The choice is obvious. The only country right now that is actually fighting the "War on Terror" is Syria, while the US is reversing its "War on Terror" with "Support for Terror".

Musso
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
The choice for leadership in Syria is between this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/31/article-2408054-1B8E3D65000005DC-18_634x420.jpg

or this:

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http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_large/hash/6c/9b/6c9b9f811fafa40a78e7d46a7e715adc.jpg?itok=FZx-1sRa

Kemalisté
04-22-2014, 09:08 PM
Good news. Middle finger to US foreign policy and Islamism.

Impeach Obama! Bring Republicans to power!

Musso
04-22-2014, 09:45 PM
Impeach Obama! Bring Republicans to power!

Errr...someone like McCain?

roro4721
04-22-2014, 10:32 PM
Almost all Syrian Christians support Bashar Al-Assad, and there is a reason for that. But the West is against him, which for me means he's got no chance.

randomguy1235
04-22-2014, 11:16 PM
Certain factions in the Free Syrian Army and Assad's regime are both at fault in this conflict, but Assad has slaughtered infinitely more civilians (over 200,000) in comparison to FSA induced casualties.

randomguy1235
04-22-2014, 11:18 PM
Honestly, Assad is the only viable option for a stable and SANE Syria right now.

http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/Heavy-SON-I-AM-DISSAPOINT.jpg

Loki
04-22-2014, 11:20 PM
Impeach Obama! Bring Republicans to power!

They're even worse!

Oghuz_Khan
04-22-2014, 11:23 PM
Assad is a hero defending his country against Western Imperialism and the mercenaries of America and Israel. Syria's unity means the unity of Turkey, Iran and Iraq.

randomguy1235
04-22-2014, 11:29 PM
Assad is a hero defending his country against Western Imperialism and the mercenaries of America and Israel. Syria's unity means the unity of Turkey, Iran and Iraq.

:bored:. Tell that to the 200,000+ Syrians indiscriminately massacred and the millions displaced by his despotic regime.

portusaus
04-22-2014, 11:30 PM
They're even worse!

They're marginally better.

Oghuz_Khan
04-22-2014, 11:35 PM
:bored:. Tell that to the 200,000+ Syrians indiscriminately massacred and the millions displaced by his despotic regime.

A despotic regime can not survive for over 3 years without the majority of the people supporting it.

Loki
04-22-2014, 11:37 PM
:bored:. Tell that to the 200,000+ Syrians indiscriminately massacred and the millions displaced by his despotic regime.

American propaganda.

StonyArabia
04-22-2014, 11:46 PM
Assad is a hero defending his country against Western Imperialism and the mercenaries of America and Israel. Syria's unity means the unity of Turkey, Iran and Iraq.

Please leave Iraq out of this, the mess Iraq is in is partly due to Iran's interference. There is nothing common between Iraq and Iran. Assad never wanted unity for Iraq and used it as a lunching pad before which angered the locals and he only
serves Iran's agenda in the region, he could care less for the locals. Yeah he is for unity yet creates sectarian discourse. Don't offend the Iraqis by these statements especially the people of Mosul.

randomguy1235
04-22-2014, 11:47 PM
American propaganda.

I'd say that, considering the 500,000+ Syrians living in Jordan who corroborate my statement, you can't simply chalk it up to propaganda

Jackson
04-22-2014, 11:48 PM
:bored:. Tell that to the 200,000+ Syrians indiscriminately massacred and the millions displaced by his despotic regime.

If it was him versus his people in the outright manner you suggest, he would be long dead.

randomguy1235
04-22-2014, 11:57 PM
If it was him versus his people in the outright manner you suggest, he would be long dead.

Assad has support from Iran and its proxy Hezbollah, which changed the tide of the war in his favor.

Oghuz_Khan
04-22-2014, 11:58 PM
Please leave Iraq out of this, the mess Iraq is in is partly due to Iran's interference. There is nothing common between Iraq and Iran. Assad never wanted unity for Iraq and used it as a lunching pad before which angered the locals and he only
serves Iran's agenda in the region, he could care less for the locals. Yeah he is for unity yet creates sectarian discourse. Don't offend the Iraqis by these statements especially the people of Mosul.

Barzani is a bigger problem than Assad for Iraq.

denz
04-23-2014, 09:38 AM
Bad guys are winning. Putin & Assad. The world is going down to hell for sure.

Disagreed, statistically, being for common opinion doesn't mean being correct. The hegemony is going down to hell for sure ...

Loki
04-23-2014, 12:32 PM
I'd say that, considering the 500,000+ Syrians living in Jordan who corroborate my statement, you can't simply chalk it up to propaganda

To say that all civilians who were killed since this armed uprising began is the fault of Assad is simply laughable. As I said, it sounds identical to American propaganda.

LightHouse89
04-23-2014, 01:37 PM
Errr...someone like McCain?

No Rand Paul McCain wouold get us in anotehr war and open the borders to allow millions more of illegals to live here. He isnt well liked by many Americans except for criticizing Obongo from the Congo.

LightHouse89
04-23-2014, 01:39 PM
The Middle East needs a Napoleon Bonaparte or Hitler to keep these religious nuts in check. It worked for the western world......I think it would work for Arabs or any people/race for that matter.

StonyArabia
04-23-2014, 03:29 PM
Barzani is a bigger problem than Assad for Iraq.

No, Barzani is not a bigger problem to Assad. Assad and Iran have proved to be more problem to Iraq than anything else. Like I have said the people of Western Iraq, Mosul and other regions have no love for Assad, heck not even some of the Southern ones do either, it's only pro-Iranians among them that have somewhat positive image. If you did not know Assad used Iraq as lunching pad, which angered the locals because it was mostly done in the Western regions. Barzani has done nothing really than take Kurds under his wings, and if you believe that Iraq will stay put, because of Assad than you are at fault, he is responsible for it's balkanization in a major way. Ask the average resident of Mosul what they think of Assad or any region of Western Iraq.

Drawing-slim
03-27-2015, 11:52 AM
Bad guys are winning. Putin & Assad. The world is going down to hell for sure.I was 100% correct. Exactly 1 year ago. Assad is responsible for all this. Anyone supporting Assad should seriously be considered dangerous psychopath.

Profileid
04-19-2015, 03:30 AM
Frankly, this is GREAT NEWS and I really hope the government eventually can secure control of most of Syria by the end of this year.But looking at it, Aleppo, Damascus and Idlib all are being fought over right now and the Islamic State and other groups hold large swathes of Syrian territory.I honestly don't know what to make of it.

I was 100% correct. Exactly 1 year ago. Assad is responsible for all this. Anyone supporting Assad should seriously be considered dangerous psychopath.

kk

Profileid
04-19-2015, 03:33 AM
No, Barzani is not a bigger problem to Assad. Assad and Iran have proved to be more problem to Iraq than anything else. Like I have said the people of Western Iraq, Mosul and other regions have no love for Assad, heck not even some of the Southern ones do either, it's only pro-Iranians among them that have somewhat positive image. If you did not know Assad used Iraq as lunching pad, which angered the locals because it was mostly done in the Western regions. Barzani has done nothing really than take Kurds under his wings, and if you believe that Iraq will stay put, because of Assad than you are at fault, he is responsible for it's balkanization in a major way. Ask the average resident of Mosul what they think of Assad or any region of Western Iraq.

More of a problem than Saudi-supported wahabbi terrorism?Than U.S intervention?

Lightman
04-19-2015, 03:53 AM
Assad is a hero