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Vlach
04-27-2014, 11:50 AM
Here I will post some photos with some building made by romanians.



Şcheii Braşovului (Hungarian: Bolgárszeg, German: Belgerei or more recently Obere Vorstadt; traditional Romanian name: Bulgărimea, colloquially Şchei) is the old ethnically Bulgarian and Romanian neighborhood of Braşov, a city in Transylvania, Romania. This village-like section of the town is mostly made up of small houses built along narrow roads with gardens and small fields on the sides of the mountains. Until the 17th century, the inhabitants of Şchei were forbidden from owning property inside the city walls. The people living in the Şchei could only enter the town at certain times and had to pay a toll at the Catherine's Gate for the privilege of selling their produce inside the town. Catherine's Gate was the only entrance for the Romanians — they were not allowed to use the other four entrances. It was in Şchei that Braşov's first Romanian School was established, next to the Romanian Orthodox church of St. Nicholas.

http://www.cerecomand.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/P1050387.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Brasov%2C_san_nicola_01.JPG/800px-Brasov%2C_san_nicola_01.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Petocile_Brasov.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:First_Romanian_school_Brasov.JPG

http://etimpu.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/scheii-brasovului.jpg?w=587

http://www.helloromania.eu/upload/atractii/MuzeulPrimaScoalaRomaneasca_1-m.jpg

Vlach
04-27-2014, 12:04 PM
Maramures wooden churches:

http://jurnalspiritual.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/BISERICA-DE-LEMN-DIN-BUDESTI.jpgp

http://www.parohiauceadesus.ro/meniu/activitate/Pelerinaj%20in%20Maramures.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Wooden_church_in_Botiza_02.JPG

Painted monasteries from Moldova (Bukovina)

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/25179057.jpg

http://www.doxologia.ro/sites/default/files/imagecache/imagine_600_width/articol/2011/09/patrauti_copy_2.jpg

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/1/1/1706/4457098/3/manastirea-sucevita-2-lucian-muntean.jpg?width=604&height=404

http://www.blogprinvizor.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/biserica_Sfantul_Ioan_Suceava.jpg

Vlach
04-27-2014, 12:22 PM
Neo-romanian arhitecture:

Bucharest town hall:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/thumb/7/71/Palatul_Prim%C4%83riei_Capitalei.jpg/1280px-Palatul_Prim%C4%83riei_Capitalei.jpg

Timisoara town hall:

http://www.opiniatimisoarei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Primaria-Timisoara.jpg

Houses:
http://historo.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/export26-2.jpg?w=593

http://arhicadi.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/img_2185.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://adelaparvu.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/adelaparvu-com-despre-vila-in-stil-neoromanesc-la-busteni-restaurare-axa-construct-1.jpg

http://viapontica.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/11_vila-minovici.jpg?w=386&h=578

Orsova, Banat, museum

http://www.primariaorsova.ro/obiective/muzeul_severin.jpg

blogen
04-27-2014, 12:39 PM
Romanian architecture

I don't think so that we may use this expression in a time depth like this. Since Romania did not exist before the 19th century, so these architecture are Moldavian and Wallachian or Moldavian or Wallachian influenced (Belgerei) architecture. Nobody calls the Assyrian arcitecture Iraqi architecture or the ancient Roman architecture Spanish architecture, since these concepts did not exist then. Or the European (and Hungarian too) literature writes about Transylvanian architecture (erdélyi építészet), since Transylvania was a principalty between the 10th century and the 19th century and this, the former regional units are the denominators in the art history. And because of this it's possible the understanding of the art history.

For example the St. Nicholas Church in Belgerei is an important building of the Wallachian architecture, since this a transition between the Wallachian and the Transsylvanian architecture. Basically the building is a Wallachian church since the Romanian princes favoured the church's building and the master builders arrived from there. But the church has late renaissance details, since the church was expanded in the 17th century with late renaissance elements for example on the western facade. These elements are relatives of the Schwarze Kirche's late-renaissance details from the 17th century and it is not by accident, same masters worked on the two building at this time. But we cannot recount this story with the usage of the "Romanian" expression, since this was a Wallachian and Transsylvanian story and the "Romanian" expression would be disturbing anachronism only, since this building was a transition between two different world and not part of one world.

And this is true onto the Moldovita monastery too, since that was a Transylvanian influenced Moldovan building and good example onto the differences between the Moldovan and Wallachian architecture too. For example the specific Moldovan styled the forty-five degrees turned pendentive cupola.


Neo-romanian arhitecture

This is the real Romanian architecture. And this started with the Neo-Brâncovenesc style.

Vlach
04-27-2014, 12:53 PM
I don't think so that we may use this expression in a time depth like this. Since Romania did not exist before the 19th century, so these architecture are Moldavian and Wallachian or Moldavian or Wallachian influenced (Belgerei) architecture. Nobody calls the Assyrian arcitecture Iraqi architecture or the ancient Roman architecture Spanish architecture, since these concepts did not exist then. Or the European (and Hungarian too) literature writes about Transylvanian architecture (erdélyi építészet), since Transylvania was a principalty between the 10th century and the 19th century and this, the former regional units are the denominators in the art history. And because of this it's possible the understanding of the art history.

For example the St. Nicholas Church in Belgerei is an important building of the Wallachian architecture, since this a transition between the Wallachian and the Transsylvanian architecture. Basically the building is a Wallachian church since the Romanian princes favoured the church's building and the master builders arrived from there. But the church has late renaissance details, since the church was expanded in the 17th century with late renaissance elements for example on the western facade. These elements are relatives of the Schwarze Kirche's late-renaissance details from the 17th century and it is not by accident, same masters worked on the two building at this time. But we cannot recount this story with the usage of the "Romanian" expression, since this was a Wallachian and Transsylvanian story and the "Romanian" expression would be disturbing anachronism only, since this building was a transition between two different world and not part of one world.

And this is true onto the Moldovita monastery too, since that was a Transylvanian influenced Moldovan building and good example onto the differences between the Moldovan and Wallachian architecture too. For example the specific Moldovan styled the forty-five degrees turned pendentive cupola.



This is the real Romanian architecture. And this started with the Neo-Brâncovenesc style.

Yeah... I just wanted to say that these buildings was built by romanians (transylvanians,moldovans,vlachs)
For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians.

http://alexandralazarescu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/rasinari.jpg?344e21

For example Rasinari village (romanian village from Transylvania).

Kamal900
04-27-2014, 12:57 PM
Seems Romania a very nice place to visit with all of it's beautiful outdoor environment and culture of the country.

Ouistreham
04-27-2014, 02:06 PM
I don't think so that we may use this expression in a time depth like this. Since Romania did not exist before the 19th century, so these architecture are Moldavian and Wallachian or Moldavian or Wallachian influenced (Belgerei) architecture.

Arguably, yes.
But no one can deny that the ancestors of present day Romanians have combined Byzantine and Central European influences to develop a very unique and distinctive style.

blogen
04-27-2014, 02:21 PM
Arguably, yes.
But no one can deny that the ancestors of present day Romanians have combined Byzantine and Central European influences to develop a very unique and distinctive style.

No, no one can deny, but the builders ethnicity maybe not relevant. The cultural regions are rather geographical, than ethnical units. Only the civilizational borders break these regions sometimes, but not necessary. For example the Danube valley cultural region from Austria to Transsylvania, from Moravia to Slavonia is almost identical culturally, but ethnically not. Czech, Germans, Hungarians, Slovakians, Croatians lived here and although this is the part of the western culture, but the local Serbian, Romanian and Rusyn peoples are assimilated to- or mostly culturally identifies with here with the western culture.

But yes, Wallachia is clearly part of the Byzanto-Ottoman Balkanic cultural region and not the Wallachians (since the historical transition zone between Wallachia and the Western world was the Transsylvanian Romanian community), but the Moldovans had significant Eastern European influence.

Vlach
04-29-2014, 05:39 PM
Some medieval buildings from Transylvania.

Colt Church
http://media.hotnews.ro/media_server1/image-2010-09-23-7816100-56-biserica-colt.jpg
http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/321/5946/11266874/11/foto-3.jpg?width=635&height=273

Colt Fortress

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/321/5946/11266874/10/foto-2.jpg?width=635&height=477

Densus church

http://www.turismland.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Tara-Hategului-6.jpg

Ostov church

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/OstrovHD_%2860%29.JPG/640px-OstrovHD_%2860%29.JPG

blogen
04-29-2014, 06:33 PM
Some medieval buildings from Transylvania.
Colt Church
Colt Fortress

The church and the fortress were not Romanian, since the church was built as a Catholic chapel for the Kende family, but the Hussites used it too based on one of the frescos. The fortress was likewise Kende posession.

Vlach
04-29-2014, 06:40 PM
The church and the fortress were not Romanian, since the church was built as a Catholic chapel for the Kende family, but the Hussites used it too based on one of the frescos. The fortress was likewise Kende posession.

The colt are not romanians? Go fuck yourself, I've got enough of your bozgorian pathetic propaganda. Kendeffy was romanian.

blogen
04-29-2014, 07:33 PM
The colt are not romanians?

No, the castle and the church were not Romanian, since:


Go fuck yourself, I've got enough of your bozgorian pathetic propaganda. Kendeffy was romanian.

:lol00002:
The gens Kende was one of the Magyar conqueror gens from the 10th century. Their forefather was Ond prince. The Kend/Kond/Künd is an old Magyar name, one of the seven Hungarian prince (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_chieftains_of_the_Magyars) was Kend for example.

Statue of Ond prince in Budapest, he was the forefather of the Kende family:
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6710/i9a4.jpg

And Kond prince on the other side (the first guy), he was a namesake only:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9450/0hgp.jpg

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 11:13 AM
The title "Romanian architecture" to describe Transylvanian cultural heritage buildings in connection with Middle Ages and Early modern period is highly nationalistic and misleading. Maybe, "architecture in the Kingdom of Hungary" (medieval era) or "Transylvanian architecture" (medieval and modern eras), perhaps "architecture of the Habsburg Monarchy" (modern era) would be much more neutral names.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 01:41 PM
No, the castle and the church were not Romanian, since:



:lol00002:
The gens Kende was one of the Magyar conqueror gens from the 10th century. Their forefather was Ond prince. The Kend/Kond/Künd is an old Magyar name, one of the seven Hungarian prince (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_chieftains_of_the_Magyars) was Kend for example.

Statue of Ond prince in Budapest, he was the forefather of the Kende family:
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6710/i9a4.jpg

And Kond prince on the other side (the first guy), he was a namesake only:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9450/0hgp.jpg

Learn some histroy bozgor, he's name was Cadea and changed it in Kende.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 01:43 PM
The title "Romanian architecture" to describe Transylvanian cultural heritage buildings in connection with Middle Ages and Early modern period is highly nationalistic and misleading. Maybe, "architecture in the Kingdom of Hungary" (medieval era) or "Transylvanian architecture" (medieval and modern eras), perhaps "architecture of the Habsburg Monarchy" (modern era) would be much more neutral names.

Can you fucking stop coming on the romanians topics? I said, i will post here only building built by romanians, are you fucking brainless?
The whole Transylvania arhitecture is a saxon/german arhitecture, no go in your bozgorian forums and stop infest romanians forums. And if the school of Schei is a hungarians arhitectue =))).

blogen
04-30-2014, 01:46 PM
Learn some histroy bozgor, he's name was Cadea and changed it in Kende.

:picard2:

Vlach
04-30-2014, 01:48 PM
:picard2:

Only a retard like you can say that a dude from Fagaras country is hungarian :picard2: :cool: :)))))))))

http://www.redescoperaromania.ro/en/blog/kendeffy-the-forgotten-castle-near-hateg

blogen
04-30-2014, 01:51 PM
Only a retard like you can say that a dude from Fagaras country is hungarian :picard2: :cool: :)))))))))

What dude?

Hithaeglir
04-30-2014, 01:52 PM
Dracula's castle

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/72010918.jpg
http://www.romaniatourism.com/images/castles-fortresses/peles-castle2.jpg

blogen
04-30-2014, 02:07 PM
Dracula's castle
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/72010918.jpg

Tölzburg/Törcsvár/Bran

Hungarian border castle, built in 1377 onto king Lajos's order agaist the Wallachians. The castle was royal domain between 1377-1568 when the Transsylvanian prince gave the castle's ownership to Kronstadt city. Since 1916, the castle was Hungarian (Queen Zita) and after Trianon Romanian (Queen Maria) royal domain in the 20th century. Vlad Tepes did not have a relation with the castle.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 02:25 PM
Tölzburg/Törcsvár/Bran

Hungarian border castle, built in 1377 onto king Lajos's order agaist the Wallachians. The castle was royal domain between 1377-1568 when the Transsylvanian prince gave the castle's ownership to Kronstadt city. Since 1916, the castle was Hungarian (Queen Zita) and after Trianon Romanian (Queen Maria) royal domain in the 20th century. Vlad Tepes did not have a relation with the castle.

Castle was built by saxons and was under wallachian,saxons,hungarians and romanians rule. The "castle" wasnt a castle since 1920, when Queen Maria renovated it and transformed into a castle

Windischer
04-30-2014, 02:26 PM
arhitecture

civilized spelling much?

Vlach
04-30-2014, 02:27 PM
civilized spelling much?

My bad, mister perfection.

blogen
04-30-2014, 02:35 PM
Castle was built by saxons and was under wallachian,saxons,hungarians and romanians rule. The "castle" wasnt a castle since 1920, when Queen Maria renovated it and transformed into a castle

The castle was built by the Magyars onto king Lajos I order and was only two owner before 1920: the Hungarian crown (and the prince of Transylvania in the name of the crown) between 1377-1568 and 1916-1920 and city of Kronstadt between 1568-1916.

The castle was continously intact and Queen Maria's building operations were not considerable.

http://www.erdelyivarak.hu/ma_files/torcsvarill1.jpg

Vlach
04-30-2014, 02:50 PM
The castle was built by the Magyars onto king Lajos I order and was only two owner before 1920: the Hungarian crown (and the prince of Transylvania in the name of the crown) between 1377-1568 and 1916-1920 and city of Kronstadt between 1568-1916.

The castle was continously intact and Queen Maria's building operations were not considerable.

http://www.erdelyivarak.hu/ma_files/torcsvarill1.jpg

"The first documented mentioning of Bran Castle is the act issued by Louis I of Hungary on November 19, 1377, giving the Saxons of Kronstadt (Braşov) the privilege to build the stone citadel on their own expense and labor force; the settlement of Bran began to develop nearby."

For you, probably the renovations are just exterior renovations.

"After becoming property of the royal family, between 1920 -1930 the castle suffered a series of architectural renovations, aiming to transform it into a modern summer residence. The renovation works were lead by the Czech architect Karel Liman, who also worked at the castles Peleş and Pelişor. Two towers for stairs were added, the bulwarks and the shooting gaps became windows, the stoves and the hearths became modern fireplaces. "

blogen
04-30-2014, 02:57 PM
Anyway, lot of real Romanian architectural miracle from Transylvania and Romania: Wooden Churches of Romania (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=103189754)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/SubPiatraAB_%2868%29.jpg/1024px-SubPiatraAB_%2868%29.jpg

Romanians built up these churches for Romanians, but the buildings in Transsylvania often the syntheses of the Transylvanian Romanians between the European and the Romanian architectural traditions. the Transylvanian Romanian folk architecture has many Renaissance and Gothic origin element from the Hungarian and Saschen architecture. Unfortunately many beautiful wooden church are in terrible condition everywhere in Transsylvania, since the Romanian Orthodox Church builds up new and ugly reinforced concrete churches everywhere and these old beautiful houses are abandoned.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/SilivasCJ_%2897%29.JPG/1024px-SilivasCJ_%2897%29.JPG

Vlach
04-30-2014, 03:01 PM
Anyway, lot of real Romanian architectural miracle from Transylvania and Romania: Wooden Churches of Romania (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=103189754)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/SubPiatraAB_%2868%29.jpg/1024px-SubPiatraAB_%2868%29.jpg

Romanians built up these churches for Romanians, but the buildings in Transsylvania often the syntheses of the Transylvanian Romanians between the European and the Romanian architectural traditions. the Transylvanian Romanian folk architecture has many Renaissance and Gothic origin element from the Hungarian and Saschen architecture. Unfortunately many beautiful wooden church are in terrible condition everywhere in Transsylvania, since the Romanian Orthodox Church builds up new and ugly reinforced concrete churches everywhere and these old beautiful houses are abandoned.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/SilivasCJ_%2897%29.JPG/1024px-SilivasCJ_%2897%29.JPG

Yes... we cant fucking renovate the painted monasteries and the wooden monasteries but we built a fucking giant cathedral
:picard2:

blogen
04-30-2014, 03:09 PM
"The first documented mentioning of Bran Castle is the act issued by Louis I of Hungary on November 19, 1377, giving the Saxons of Kronstadt (Braşov) the privilege to build the stone citadel on their own expense and labor force; the settlement of Bran began to develop nearby."

Yes, the city financed the building operations, since they needed the defence line against the Wallachians. So the royal diploma from 1377 allows the financing to them generously. :)

But the castle was royal possession from the very beginning and the king settled Székelys there for soldiers of the castle. This was the origin of the seven Csángó village: Bácsfalu, Türkös, Csernátfalu, Hosszúfalu, Tatrang, Zajzon, Pürkerec


For you, probably the renovations are just exterior renovations.

Yes, exteriors only.

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 03:11 PM
Can you fucking stop coming on the romanians topics? I said, i will post here only building built by romanians, are you fucking brainless?
The whole Transylvania arhitecture is a saxon/german arhitecture, no go in your bozgorian forums and stop infest romanians forums. And if the school of Schei is a hungarians arhitectue =))).

Regarding your promise that you post here only Romanian built buildings, I strongly recommend you to refresh your knowledge about architectural history.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 03:16 PM
Regarding your promise that you post here only Romanian built buildings, I strongly recommend you to refresh your knowledge about architectural history.

Romanian built building= buildings built by romanians. What you don't understand? Where I said that the architecture of this buildings is romanian architecture?

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 03:32 PM
Romanian built building= buildings built by romanians. What you don't understand? Where I said that the architecture of this buildings is romanian architecture?

??? The title of the thread is "Romanian architecture". Your pictures depict mostly partially Romanian or non-Romanian built buildings. You do not get it do you?

Vlach
04-30-2014, 03:35 PM
??? The title of the thread is "Romanian architecture". Your pictures depict mostly partially Romanian or non-Romanian built buildings. You do not get it do you?

"Yeah... I just wanted to say that these buildings was built by romanians (transylvanians,moldovans,vlachs)
For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians."

Partially romanian :picard2: Give me a example of partially romanian built buildings.

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 03:59 PM
"Yeah... I just wanted to say that these buildings was built by romanians (transylvanians,moldovans,vlachs)
For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians."

Partially romanian :picard2: Give me a example of partially romanian built buildings.

"Meaning of partially Romanian built building": When the workforce at the building site was composed of people who had different origin (Transylvanian-born Romanians, Saxons, Hungarians, Armenians, Jews etc.), otherwise one of the participants ( worker, contractor, owner) may have been an ethnic Romanian. I do not say that you can not find Romanian built buildings in Transylvania. However, the architectural history before 1920 DOES belong to "the architecture history of Transylvania" and not to "the Romanian architecture". It is a sensitive issue. You have to be careful.

blogen
04-30-2014, 04:37 PM
"Yeah... I just wanted to say that these buildings was built by romanians (transylvanians,moldovans,vlachs)
For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians."
Partially romanian :picard2: Give me a example of partially romanian built buildings.

So this is Arab architecture:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qEBzcvX7zAs/UcxCEn_AvWI/AAAAAAAACCo/cR3K4QMdlmk/s500/La+Defense+Paris.jpg

Mostly Maghrebi Arab workers built this. But no, this is not Arab architecture, since the international style is a Western achitectural style and the place and the procurers are western citizens. As the Holy Trinity cathedral in Bálzsfalva/Blaj is not part of the Romanian architecture, but this is Hungarian architecture:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8186/8121297099_4294e36357.jpg

as the Serb Orthodox church in Ráckeve for example:
http://itthon.hu/site/upload/2007/09/19227.jpg

This church built the Serbs originally and this was an gothic Orhodox church, but this building is part of the Hungarian art history and not the Serbian, since nothing is Serbian on this building.

Or is this German architecture (Mohammadia Mega Mosque in Algeria):
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/7523/images/147028/large/2l-image.jpg

A consortium of KSP Jürgen Engel Architekten and Krebs Und Keifer won the international competition to design the mosque complex in 2008. In July 2008 the agreement on planning and construction of this project was signed in the presence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

No, this is a Western influenced building in Algeria. Since the style is a Western influenced version of the Arab postmodern. As the Moldovita monastery in Mondova is a Western influenced Byzantine building:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L3OWidobnUQ/TmKYSuntEiI/AAAAAAAAAm0/GTnIaA5Kn1g/s1600/bStitched_002q.jpg

So, the ethnic related art is this: a group builds it in his own style for himself.

For example the Sehitlik Mosque in Berlin is an Turkish building:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TCw__HGcgcY/TYTtZzUF-pI/AAAAAAAABfg/oMQm2LCg0Wg/s1600/Sehitlik+mosque+with+cemetry.jpg

or one of the new Orthodox church in Hermannstadt is a Romanian building:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/7062294589_a707c27662_z.jpg

but not the neo-Byzantine Orthodox cathedral in Hermannstadt:
http://www.astro-travels.com/pictures/Sibiu-Orthodox-Cathedral.jpg

This is only Romanian influenced Western architecture, since the basic style of the building is the Western neo-Byzantism.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 05:25 PM
So this is Arab architecture:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qEBzcvX7zAs/UcxCEn_AvWI/AAAAAAAACCo/cR3K4QMdlmk/s500/La+Defense+Paris.jpg

Mostly Maghrebi Arab workers built this. But no, this is not Arab architecture, since the international style is a Western achitectural style and the place and the procurers are western citizens. As the Holy Trinity cathedral in Bálzsfalva/Blaj is not part of the Romanian architecture, but this is Hungarian architecture:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8186/8121297099_4294e36357.jpg

as the Serb Orthodox church in Ráckeve for example:
http://itthon.hu/site/upload/2007/09/19227.jpg

This church built the Serbs originally and this was an gothic Orhodox church, but this building is part of the Hungarian art history and not the Serbian, since nothing is Serbian on this building.

Or is this German architecture (Mohammadia Mega Mosque in Algeria):
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/7523/images/147028/large/2l-image.jpg

A consortium of KSP Jürgen Engel Architekten and Krebs Und Keifer won the international competition to design the mosque complex in 2008. In July 2008 the agreement on planning and construction of this project was signed in the presence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

No, this is a Western influenced building in Algeria. Since the style is a Western influenced version of the Arab postmodern. As the Moldovita monastery in Mondova is a Western influenced Byzantine building:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L3OWidobnUQ/TmKYSuntEiI/AAAAAAAAAm0/GTnIaA5Kn1g/s1600/bStitched_002q.jpg

So, the ethnic related art is this: a group builds it in his own style for himself.

For example the Sehitlik Mosque in Berlin is an Turkish building:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TCw__HGcgcY/TYTtZzUF-pI/AAAAAAAABfg/oMQm2LCg0Wg/s1600/Sehitlik+mosque+with+cemetry.jpg

or one of the new Orthodox church in Hermannstadt is a Romanian building:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/7062294589_a707c27662_z.jpg

but not the neo-Byzantine Orthodox cathedral in Hermannstadt:
http://www.astro-travels.com/pictures/Sibiu-Orthodox-Cathedral.jpg

This is only Romanian influenced Western architecture, since the basic style of the building is the Western neo-Byzantism.

Yes, and I didnt said this?
"For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians."

blogen
04-30-2014, 05:55 PM
Yes, and I didnt said this?
"For example in Banat, the majority of villages are with a lot of swabian architecture but was built by romanians."

No. Not Swabian. This is the Schwabian architecture (Nördlingen) for example:
http://images.placesonline.com/photos/28354_noerdlingen_st-georgs-kirche_in_noerdlingen.jpg

This is typical small city Hungarian eclecticism (Orawitz/Oravicabánya/Oravita):
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/96728964.jpg

or Budapest for example:
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/74305836.jpg

The Danube Swabians did not have own regional art style in the Danube valley cultural region, but Hungary had, as Czech and Austria too! Not the consumers ethnicity ethnicized the art.

Vlach
04-30-2014, 06:04 PM
No. Not Swabian. This is the Schwabian architecture (Nördlingen) for example:
http://images.placesonline.com/photos/28354_noerdlingen_st-georgs-kirche_in_noerdlingen.jpg

This is typical small city Hungarian eclecticism (Orawitz/Oravicabánya/Oravita):
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/96728964.jpg

or Budapest for example:
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/74305836.jpg

The Danube Swabians did not have own regional art style in the Danube valley cultural region, but Hungary had, as Czech and Austria too! Not the consumers ethnicity ethnicized the art.

http://www.hipermarketimobiliar.ro/media/images/big/16517_TL5933459sc_18082012057_resize.jpg

http://www.schlarb.com/schlarbhofen_history/hauss.jpg

blogen
04-30-2014, 06:15 PM
http://www.hipermarketimobiliar.ro/media/images/big/16517_TL5933459sc_18082012057_resize.jpg
http://www.schlarb.com/schlarbhofen_history/hauss.jpg

Hungarian folk or rural baroque:
http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/1/2/6/1/_/halaszi_nepi_epiteszet_remekei_barokk_stilusu_haza k_2011_szeptember_24en_1261818_1812.JPG
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/57867502.jpg

The Swabians did not differ from the kingdom's inhabitants culturally.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 07:46 PM
So this is Arab architecture:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qEBzcvX7zAs/UcxCEn_AvWI/AAAAAAAACCo/cR3K4QMdlmk/s500/La+Defense+Paris.jpg

Mostly Maghrebi Arab workers built this. But no, this is not Arab architecture, since the international style is a Western achitectural style and the place and the procurers are western citizens. As the Holy Trinity cathedral in Bálzsfalva/Blaj is not part of the Romanian architecture, but this is Hungarian architecture:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8186/8121297099_4294e36357.jpg


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No this is not arabian architecture, but it was CREATED DESIGNED AND BUILT BY AN ARAB you dumb fuck (so it will have a minor partial arab identity)



as the Serb Orthodox church in Ráckeve for example:
http://itthon.hu/site/upload/2007/09/19227.jpg

This church built the Serbs originally and this was an gothic Orhodox church, but this building is part of the Hungarian art history and not the Serbian, since nothing is Serbian on this building.

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Oh yeah you're trying to say wherever it is gothic or hungarian art it's the same ? you think we are so stupid ? When it's a Gothic orthodox church than it must be of gothic architecture, wherever it had hungarian art influences or not.
And it was built by Serb. Period. It belongs NOT to Hungaria and has nothing to do with Hungaria, not even with his minor art influence.



Or is this German architecture (Mohammadia Mega Mosque in Algeria):
http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/7523/images/147028/large/2l-image.jpg

A consortium of KSP Jürgen Engel Architekten and Krebs Und Keifer won the international competition to design the mosque complex in 2008. In July 2008 the agreement on planning and construction of this project was signed in the presence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

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No clearly no, this is western influenced arabian architecture, and you can't say that it somehow belongs to the westerns because it has western influences as you try it do above with the Serbian church, as with La Défense which was just build by an arab.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L3OWidobnUQ/TmKYSuntEiI/AAAAAAAAAm0/GTnIaA5Kn1g/s1600/bStitched_002q.jpg

So, the ethnic related art is this: a group builds it in his own style for himself.

Again, Westenr influences or not, must
For example the Sehitlik Mosque in Berlin is an Turkish building:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TCw__HGcgcY/TYTtZzUF-pI/AAAAAAAABfg/oMQm2LCg0Wg/s1600/Sehitlik+mosque+with+cemetry.jpg

This is of Oriental architecture, absolutely nothing western.

or one of the new Orthodox church in Hermannstadt is a Romanian building:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/7062294589_a707c27662_z.jpg

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Looks insanely of Roumanian architecture

but not the neo-Byzantine Orthodox cathedral in Hermannstadt:
http://www.astro-travels.com/pictures/Sibiu-Orthodox-Cathedral.jpg

This is only Romanian influenced Western architecture, since the basic style of the building is the Western neo-Byzantism.

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Aggreed, by why do you say above for the Mondovita Church that it is somehow ethnic related and not for the Byzantine ? Trying to hide the Byzantine fact ? I could also say it somehow ethnic related but it was clearly of Byzantine design, Oups !

HellLander87
04-30-2014, 07:54 PM
Original hungarian architecture
http://s29.postimg.org/cmuht4047/Yurt_left.jpg

SKYNET
04-30-2014, 07:59 PM
^ LoL

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 08:02 PM
Hungarian folk or rural baroque:
http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/1/2/6/1/_/halaszi_nepi_epiteszet_remekei_barokk_stilusu_haza k_2011_szeptember_24en_1261818_1812.JPG
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/57867502.jpg

The Swabians did not differ from the kingdom's inhabitants culturally.

Insanely wrong, the Swabians did differ from the Hungarovsky scum

blogen
04-30-2014, 08:05 PM
Are you retard XerXes? Meaningless and chaotic what you write!

blogen
04-30-2014, 08:17 PM
Original hungarian architecture
http://s29.postimg.org/cmuht4047/Yurt_left.jpg

The two common form of the Hungarian architecture in the 10th century were the yurts and the wood/earth fortifications from the very huge size to the family size:

Szabolcs for example:
http://beszelamarvany.lapunk.hu/tarhely/beszelamarvany/kepek/foldvar3.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/33913037.jpg

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 08:21 PM
"Meaning of partially Romanian built building": When the workforce at the building site was composed of people who had different origin (Transylvanian-born Romanians, Saxons, Hungarians, Armenians, Jews etc.), otherwise one of the participants ( worker, contractor, owner) may have been an ethnic Romanian. I do not say that you can not find Romanian built buildings in Transylvania. However, the architectural history before 1920 DOES belong to "the architecture history of Transylvania" and not to "the Romanian architecture". It is a sensitive issue. You have to be careful.

To whom does it belong then, you little worm ?

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 08:21 PM
Original hungarian architecture
http://s29.postimg.org/cmuht4047/Yurt_left.jpg

Actually there is no archaeological evidence that Hungarians ever used Yurts.

HellLander87
04-30-2014, 08:28 PM
The two common form of the Hungarian architecture in the 10th century were the yurts and the wood/earth fortifications from the very huge size to the family size:

Szabolcs for example:

I 'm impressed.

HellLander87
04-30-2014, 08:30 PM
Actually there is no archaeological evidence that Hungarians ever used Yurts.
Because the yurt although impressive cannot stand the test of time.

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 08:34 PM
Because the yurt although impressive cannot stand the test of time.

I am serious, there is no proof that Hungarians ever used Yurts. It is just speculation. We only know that they used "tents".

blogen
04-30-2014, 08:54 PM
Actually there is no archaeological evidence that Hungarians ever used Yurts.

This is true, the common peoples of the Hungarian conquerors lived in small houses:
http://utazas.sk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bodremka-430x3221.jpg
http://www.mgepitesz.hu/_core/js/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/latvanykepek/1r.jpg

Since the house was cheap, while a good yurt was expensive and the yurt is rather typical of the cold and drier lands. But do we have excavated tent site (szállás) from the 10th century?

blogen
04-30-2014, 08:58 PM
Because the yurt although impressive cannot stand the test of time.

The tent site has archaeological remains. Sheepfolds, stoves, holding sites, etc. For example a cumanian site from the 13th century, presumably sheepfolds:

http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/telepulesek_ertekei/100_falu/Petofiszallas/pages/images/002_sik_a_puszta_clip_image002_0007.jpg

Fakirbakir
04-30-2014, 09:43 PM
But do we have excavated tent site (szállás) from the 10th century?

According to my knowledge the answer is no, we do not have. Please, take a look at this link (p. 209):

http://regeszet.org.hu/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/R%C3%A9g%C3%A9szeti-K%C3%A9zik%C3%B6nyv-2011_2_2.pdf

RussiaPrussia
05-07-2014, 04:56 AM
lol gypsy architecture

Vlach
05-07-2014, 01:33 PM
lol gypsy architecture

Can you stop spaming romanians trheads? Are you mad or retarded?

Vlach
05-10-2014, 02:33 PM
Curtea Domneasca Piatra Neamt

http://www.afaceri.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/01-curtea-domneasca-piatra-neamt.jpg

http://www.imagini.neamt.ro/data/media/20/neamt1online.jpg

http://www.orthphoto.net/photo/201101/61348.jpg

SabirHunOgur
05-12-2014, 11:59 AM
The tent site has archaeological remains. Sheepfolds, stoves, holding sites, etc. For example a cumanian site from the 13th century, presumably sheepfolds:

http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/telepulesek_ertekei/100_falu/Petofiszallas/pages/images/002_sik_a_puszta_clip_image002_0007.jpg

A magyarok szkíta nép, erről még az általad elismert Henkey sem feledkezett meg szólni!

– Felméréseim – az orosz Ginzburg és a kazak Iszmagulov vizsgálatait alapul véve – jelentős mértékben igazolták a közép-ázsiai eredetű népekkel, a szkítákkal, szarmatákkal, uszunokkal, továbbá az ogur-törökökkel, késő avaroknak is nevezett onogurokkal való rokonságunk hagyományait.

Szó sincs szar-gátka kultúráról, benézted!

Vlach
06-17-2014, 01:57 PM
Timisoara cathedral:

http://94.177.8.5/_upload/img/128634868896920106.jpg

http://www.tymestours.ro/en/01-hp-en/y-2012-03-city-tours/timisoara-city-tours-03.jpg

http://www.opiniatimisoarei.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/catedrala-timisoara1.jpg

Vlach
06-17-2014, 02:10 PM
Craiova:
https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/p180x540/10414490_774623629238786_8511510628943110772_n.jpg

Barsana Monastery:

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10441425_794411347276837_7201578765466104001_n.jpg

Vlach
06-18-2014, 11:24 AM
Iasi:

https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/l/t1.0-9/10154954_10202255215642318_169882585_n.jpg

Vlach
06-20-2014, 10:47 AM
http://www.aurelvirlan.ro/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Landscape-Photography-AurelVirlan-peisaje-fotografice-platoul-Muntii-Bucegi-133.jpg

Old romanian house from Maramures:

http://monumente-etnografice.cimec.ro/pics/medium/074AC0CEFF484C199914377F840F6969.jpg

Rasinari romanian village from Transylvania:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Vedere_Rasinari.jpg

http://romaniadacia.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/rasinari-sibiu-romanian-village-beautiful-eastern-european-countryside-roumanie-romania-landscape.jpg

Vlach
06-20-2014, 12:01 PM
Some from Cluj-Napoca:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8864/img0392he.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4836/img0359ic.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1426/img0436wt.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4084/img0478hd.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6263/img0421cm.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2931/img1659c.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3006/img1876c.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/840/img1511qn7.jpg

http://www.fotofocus.ro/foto/2789/high_resolution/catedrala-ortodoxa-cluj-napoca-22613.jpeg

blogen
06-20-2014, 06:41 PM
Romanian villages from Transylvania:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Magyargyer%C5%91monostori_utcar%C3%A9szlet.jpg/1024px-Magyargyer%C5%91monostori_utcar%C3%A9szlet.jpg

:picard1:

Hungarian village with tipical Hungarian folk architecture of Kalotaszeg style.

Vlach
06-21-2014, 10:05 AM
:picard1:

Hungarian village with tipical Hungarian folk architecture of Kalotaszeg style.

You are totally retarded again. Stupid bozgorian I said for 100 times, I WILL POST BUILDINGS BUILT BY ROMANIANS, WAS MY BAD CAUSE I SAID THAT THIS WILL BE JUST ROMANIAN ARCHITECTURE THREAD.

http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuna_M%C4%83n%C4%83stireni,_Cluj

blogen
06-21-2014, 05:45 PM
You are totally retarded again. Stupid bozgorian I said for 100 times, I WILL POST BUILDINGS BUILT BY ROMANIANS, WAS MY BAD CAUSE I SAID THAT THIS WILL BE JUST ROMANIAN ARCHITECTURE THREAD.

http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuna_M%C4%83n%C4%83stireni,_Cluj

These are Hungarians built houses in a Hungarian folk architectural style in a Hungarian village in the Hungarian Kalotaszeg ethnocultural region (http://www.eliznik.org.uk/RomaniaEthno/regions/kalotaszeg.htm) in Transylvania. But you are a Moldovan settlers, so not a surprise, that you know nothing about the Transylvanian folk cultures.

Vlach
06-22-2014, 09:55 AM
These are Hungarians built houses in a Hungarian folk architectural style in a Hungarian village in the Hungarian Kalotaszeg ethnocultural region (http://www.eliznik.org.uk/RomaniaEthno/regions/kalotaszeg.htm) in Transylvania. But you are a Moldovan settlers, so not a surprise, that you know nothing about the Transylvanian folk cultures.

Ididot, you saw what I posted? The majority in this village are romanians, why are you so sure that the romanians dont built their houses in hungarians style?

And Im a moldavian setler on a romanian land, not a bozgor from Asia, setler on others land.

Vlach
06-22-2014, 10:02 AM
Poenari fortress:

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Poenari-far.jpg

http://touristinromania.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/cetatea-poenari-20110221153433.jpg

blogen
06-22-2014, 10:14 AM
Ididot, you saw what I posted? The majority in this village are romanians, why are you so sure that the romanians dont built their houses in hungarians style?

And? If a local Romanian built a house in a characteristic Hungarian folk style that is not Romanian architecture.


And Im a moldavian setler on a romanian land, not a bozgor from Asia, setler on others land.

Doesn't matter where are you from, you are a stranger in Transylvania as a Jewish settler in the West Bank, opposite the Asian origin Bozgor natives. A Transylvanian Romanian knows the Kalotaszeg Hungarians, so not problem for him to recognise these characteristic Hungarian folk architecture.

Vlach
06-22-2014, 10:25 AM
And? If a local Romanian built a house in a characteristic Hungarian folk style that is not Romanian architecture.



Doesn't matter where are you from, you are a stranger in Transylvania as a Jewish settler in the West Bank, opposite the Asian origin Bozgor natives. A Transylvanian Romanian knows the Kalotaszeg Hungarians, so not problem for him to recognise these characteristic Hungarian folk architecture.

Do you have mental problems...
I know you are frustrated, all the hungarians have a frustration, BUT PLEASE, LEAVE THE ROMANIANS THREADS. I will delete the photo, now is ok?

Now I will remind you, you syndrome down mister.
You really cant fucking remind that we talked about this bullshit?

http://i60.tinypic.com/k4uw74.png

Vlach
06-22-2014, 10:28 AM
And? If a local Romanian built a house in a characteristic Hungarian folk style that is not Romanian architecture.



Doesn't matter where are you from, you are a stranger in Transylvania as a Jewish settler in the West Bank, opposite the Asian origin Bozgor natives. A Transylvanian Romanian knows the Kalotaszeg Hungarians, so not problem for him to recognise these characteristic Hungarian folk architecture.

Idiot, Im not from Transylvania, Im from Banat, and my father and me were born here. :)

blogen
06-22-2014, 10:47 AM
Not my problem, if you know nothing about the Transylvanian folk architecture. This is your problem, but the Kalotaszeg style architecture as a Romanian style was really ridiculous. Specific Romanian folk architecture exists in the mountain regions only practically on the Hungarian kingdom's territory on those places where there is not Hungarian or Saxon folk architecture. Except the widespread wooden churches, the fundamental types of the Romanian folk architecture in the Hungarian kingdom.

Vlach
06-22-2014, 10:53 AM
Not my problem, if you know nothing about the Transylvanian folk architecture. This is your problem, but the Kalotaszeg style architecture as a Romanian style was really ridiculous. Specific Romanian folk architecture exists in the mountain regions only practically on the Hungarian kingdom's territory on those places where there is not Hungarian or Saxon folk architecture. Except the widespread wooden churches, the fundamental types of the Romanian folk architecture in the Hungarian kingdom.

The most romanians zones from Transylvania/Maramures/Banat are in mountains and near the border with other countries. ( North of Sibiu region, for example Rasinari village, N. of Brasov region., Tara Fagarasului,Tara Hategului) Tara Motilor (mountain region)

Vlach
07-12-2014, 09:03 AM
Culele din Oltenia și Muntenia

http://epochtimes-romania.com/news_images/2013/02/2013_02_20_cula%20de%20la%20curtisoara1_rsz.jpg

http://www.verticalonline.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cula-tatarescu-curtisoara.gif

http://epochtimes-romania.com/news_images/2013/02/2013_02_20_cula%20de%20la%20maldaresti%202_rsz.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Cula_Cartianu.JPG

https://www.facebook.com/MonumentePierduteOltenia/photos/a.724002070992668.1073741916.196164003776480/724002164325992/?type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/MonumentePierduteOltenia/photos/a.724002070992668.1073741916.196164003776480/724002170992658/?type=1&theater

Vlach
07-12-2014, 09:11 AM
Oltenia monasteries:

http://www.valceaturistica.ro/wp-content/uploads/manastiri-valcea/manastirea-cozia/manastirea-cozia-calimanesti-caciulata-valcea.jpg

http://www.crestinortodox.ro/admin/_files/newsannounce/manastirea-tismana-%2856%29.jpg

http://www.romeohuidu.ro/d/894-2/manastirea_tismana8.jpg

http://www.manastirea-tismana.ro/lucru/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/manastirea-tismana_12.jpg

Vlach
08-18-2014, 06:49 PM
Mănăstirea Trei Ierarhi from Iași :

http://www.crestinortodox.ro/files/image/biserici%20din%20romania%20-%207/iasi%20-%20trei%20ierarhi/manastirea-trei-ierarhi-iasi-2.jpg

http://str2.crestin-ortodox.ro/foto/1436/143546_manastirea-trei-ierarhi-iasi-1.jpg

http://www.crestinortodox.ro/files/image/biserici%20din%20romania%20-%207/iasi%20-%20trei%20ierarhi/manastirea-trei-ierarhi-iasi-5.jpg

http://fototecaortodoxiei.ro/sites/default/files/imagecache/imagine_mare_700/fotografii/2012/01/0398ANP.jpg

http://secondglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/turla-M%C4%83n%C4%83stirea-Sfin%C8%9Bii-Trei-Ierarhi-din-Ia%C5%9Fi.jpg

Vlach
08-18-2014, 06:57 PM
Palace of Culture from Iași :

http://adevarul.ro/assets/adevarul.ro/MRImage/2013/09/13/523354c2c7b855ff567d5825/646x404.jpg

http://www.iasibusinessclass.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/palatul-culturii.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/7202/xr1k.jpgp

http://www.fromiasi.ro/files/imagecache/mycityphotos/files/images/palatul.culturii.02.jpg

http://blog.iasi4u.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Ansamblul-Palas.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mvUeCodCu6s/UGlc1tE-LKI/AAAAAAAAN0o/I6mr2Gy5jL4/s1600/DSC_0644.JPG

Vlach
08-22-2014, 10:22 AM
Piatra Neamț

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Piatra_Neamt_1.cristibur.JPG

https://www.primariapn.ro/documents/10179/14019/piatra-neamt-7..jpg?version=2.0&t=1331093865900

http://www.romania-turistica.ro/img/articol/53/1390946145.84632206.jpg

Vlach
08-31-2014, 01:23 PM
Tulcea

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3687/10952270394_02500e5793_h.jpg

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/7497485/1024/Anonymous/-MG-5267.jpg

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 12:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJSzYE2rE8

Carpatz
09-30-2018, 12:54 PM
wooden churches in Maramureș

http://trip2ro.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Maramures-2.jpg

https://rolandia.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rogoz-church.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/8c/3e/728c3e9f93b7cbaec8cf669251c371c8.jpg

https://www.touringromania.com/userfiles/image/MARAMURES/WOODEN%20CHURCH%20FROM%20SURDESTI/Wooden-Church-from-Surdesti-Unesco-Maramures-Romania00002.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rq7lfdWGRfQ/WZqBF6TIeyI/AAAAAAABTas/hDxthwcxYxMyLjlN0-AB-k5qJU3QX1OAwCHMYCw/wooden-churches-maramures-72?imgmax=1600

https://photos.travelblog.org/Photos/125544/447195/f/4389579-Famous-wooden-Churches-of-the-Maramures-county-0.jpg

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 01:46 PM
Five medieval moldavian fortresses which have survived to nowadays. First two are located today in Ukraine and are very well preserved, third one in today Republic of Moldova, the last two in Romania.

1. Akkerman Fortress/White Fortress (Cetatea Albă)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk5ks7P0uB8

2. Khotyn Fortress (Cetatea Hotinului)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3wMnZg0tW0

3. Soroca Fortress (Cetatea Sorocii)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiUa1mjU1T8

4. Neamt Fortress (Cetatea Neamțului)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGLu9oa_39Y

5. Suceava Fortress (Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y22hneI6QUA

Carpatz
09-30-2018, 01:58 PM
Five medieval moldavian fortresses which have survived to nowadays. First two are located today in Ukraine and are very well preserved, third one in today Republic of Moldova, the last two in Romania.


The hohol flag on Cetatea Albă makes me puke

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 02:42 PM
The hohol flag on Cetatea Albă makes me puke

Pe mine asta nu tare mă deranjează, oricum balanța etnică în regiune e imposibil de schimbat, mai mult nu-mi place cum ucrainenii rescriu istoria locului, privatizînd istoria moldovenilor, mai ales obiectivele culturale care țin de istoria Moldovei, și care n-au nimic în comun cu ucrainenii, cel mai mult se observă asta în privința Hotinului. Așa-i cînd ai o țară fake creată pe nici o bază istorică solidă, trebuie de împrumutat de la vecini cîte ceva.

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 03:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UTnaKb62FA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3omQy6NTH-w

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 03:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THRGZb64ieo

Aspirin
09-30-2018, 06:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8EzorC8778

Aspirin
10-01-2018, 06:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeHM-SoNql8&t=94s

Aspirin
10-02-2018, 06:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQdwbgCb38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2QvDEluh7M

Iloko
10-02-2018, 06:10 PM
Sort of reminds me of Spanish in some ways

Aspirin
10-02-2018, 07:22 PM
Sort of reminds me of Spanish in some ways

Maybe because of gothic and romanesque elements in the local architecture, who came here from Western Europe.

Aspirin
10-02-2018, 07:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ZiZUzU2Qw

Columella
10-02-2018, 07:59 PM
The first impact reminds of “Alpine” architecture (Switzerland)
However there are peculiar features, like the use of round Arches both for windows and decoration that give an “orthodox feel”
Also the towers of the castles and the fortress have a peculiar Eastern European feel.

Aspirin
10-02-2018, 09:42 PM
The first impact reminds of “Alpine” architecture (Switzerland)
However there are peculiar features, like the use of round Arches both for windows and decoration that give an “orthodox feel”
Also the towers of the castles and the fortress have a peculiar Eastern European feel.

Well, round arches are not just an orthodox feel, it was a legacy from Roman Empire, like romanesque architecture in the West who used round arches too, different ways of evolution, but with the same roots. The romanian medieval architecture have two distinctive styles, who has evolved different, wallachian and moldavian. Especially wallachian architecture always had a strong connection with Balkans and Byzantyne Empire, it's just a logical evolution of byzantine architecture and development of old byzantine forms, especially after the fall of all balkan orthodox states under turks. On the other side, moldavian architecture, it's a mix between gothic and byzantine architecture. Churches have the same structure as wallachian ones, an byzantyne triconch plan, but with many gothic elements (pointed arches, portals, windows ornaments, buttresses), and even romanesque ones. All the western architectural influences in moldavian architecture was bring by saxons from Transylvania, where some of them has settled in north side of Moldavia, in cities like Baia, Radauti and Suceava.

This are two examples of two medieval romanian churches who was built at the same time, in the mid of sixteenth century, first moldavian, second wallachian. The structure of both is the same, an byzantine triconch, but with totally different exterior and interior decorations.
https://pp.userapi.com/c824503/v824503339/c17a4/L_yfkjXzd_A.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c824503/v824503339/c179b/Puq7rke1pps.jpg

blogen
10-07-2018, 10:26 AM
All the western architectural influences in moldavian architecture was bring by saxons from Transylvania, where some of them has settled in north side of Moldavia, in cities like Baia, Radauti and Suceava.

Not Saxons, but mostly Hungarians, since 10-25% of the Moldovan population was ethnic Hungarian (Csángó) settlers in the medieval times. They brought their culture and strong connections to Transsylvania. The Saxon settlers number was very low in Moldova, the Saxon followed the actual Hungarian architectual styles and local solutions in Transsylvania. Hovewer, the had plus capacity, since their autonomous land, Königsboden (Királyföld) was a small part of Transsylvania, where the Hungarians dominanted the architecture, because the secular architecture was theirs and the the main church customers (bishops, cloisters, provosts) were originated from the nobles, while the offshore market was big around Transsylvania. This is the reason of the direct architectual connections between some Moldovan and Saxon building. But the average carriers of the Gothic and Renaissance style in Moldova were presumably the local Hungarians and their Transsylvanian partners. And of course, there was a Polish connection!

Aspirin
10-07-2018, 12:23 PM
Not Saxons, but mostly Hungarians, since 10-25% of the Moldovan population was ethnic Hungarian (Csángó) settlers in the medieval times. They brought their culture and strong connections to Transsylvania. The Saxon settlers number was very low in Moldova, the Saxon followed the actual Hungarian architectual styles and local solutions in Transsylvania. Hovewer, the had plus capacity, since their autonomous land, Königsboden (Királyföld) was a small part of Transsylvania, where the Hungarians dominanted the architecture, because the secular architecture was theirs and the the main church customers (bishops, cloisters, provosts) were originated from the nobles, while the offshore market was big around Transsylvania. This is the reason of the direct architectual connections between some Moldovan and Saxon building. But the average carriers of the Gothic and Renaissance style in Moldova were presumably the local Hungarians and their Transsylvanian partners. And of course, there was a Polish connection!

Lol. Hungarians bringed nothing to the Moldavia in term of culture and especially architecture. They was too insignificant ethnicity to have any impact on local moldavians, especially csangos settlers, who was just random peasants. Most of csangos came in Moldavia since XVI centrury after the Reformation, since they are Catholics, and ocuped mostly south part of Moldavia, like Roman and Bacău county, who was never very developed like North. And they never was 10-25% of all population. Such big percent had it only slavs, especially in the XIV-XVI centuries. The real people who realy haved a big impact in Moldavia, especially on the local architecture, was saxons. There are plenty of medieval moldavian acts where moldavian rulers asks only saxons from Transylvania to send some architects and builders in Moldavia, but not other ethnic groups from this region. Mostly backward places in Transylvania are the lands populated by romanians, hungarians and székelys, but not saxons. When you look at the transylvanian cities, and the transylvanian architecture at all, you will not see anything hungarian, but only germanic. All the Transylvania, cities, castles, fortresses, was built only by them, not by hungarians, is too laughlable to believe in this. And not just in Transylvania, but in all Hungarian Kingdom, Polish Kingdom and Grand Duchy of Lithuania too. Since the establishment of these countries, the architecture was influenced only by germanic people, who settled in the most cities from these Kingdoms.

Papastratosels26
10-07-2018, 12:24 PM
Beautiful Architecture.

Aspirin
10-07-2018, 06:25 PM
The Neamț Monastery (Romanian: Mănăstirea Neamț) is a Romanian Orthodox religious settlement, one of the oldest and most important of its kind in Romania. It was built in the 15th century, and it is an example of medieval Moldavian architecture. A jewel of 15th-century architecture, the church was built during Stephen the Great's reign and finished in the year when the Moldavian army won the battle against King of Poland, John Albert (1497).

Sumptuous, with delicate colour effects, the monastery shows the maturity of the Moldavian architectonic style, which matured during Stephen the Great's period. The façade of the church is covered with the decoration characteristic of Stephen the Great's time: Gothic windows and friezes with enamelled disks, coloured in green, yellow and brown.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W11YeL5FHDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTO3udVcGKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHoeAypzWw

Aspirin
10-15-2018, 11:56 AM
Probota Monastery (Romanian: Mănăstirea Probota) is a Romanian Orthodox monastery in Probota village, Dolhasca town, Suceava County, Romania. Built in 1530, with Peter IV Rareș as ktitor, it is one of eight buildings that make up the churches of Moldavia UNESCO World Heritage Site.
http://www.infoturism-moldova.ro/wp-content/gallery/manastirea-probota/img_0213.jpg
http://www.infoturism-moldova.ro/wp-content/gallery/manastirea-probota/img_0217.jpg
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Nurzat
10-15-2018, 12:28 PM
Romanian architecture

colibă dă kirpiç, bă (kirpichi hut, bah, in central Transylvania, using the Wallachian style mud technique)

https://www.click.ro/sites/default/files/styles/articol/public/medias/2017/05/05/p14-act-1.jpg?itok=A6A9Ma1a

renaissance12
10-15-2018, 12:32 PM
Is Romania a touristic destination ?.. There are a lot ot things Worth visiting..

Aspirin
10-15-2018, 12:41 PM
Is Romania a touristic destination ?.. There are a lot ot things Worth visiting..

Depends what you want to see.

renaissance12
10-15-2018, 12:49 PM
Depends what you want to see.

I like visiting ancient village and artistic monuments palace Church....

Aspirin
10-15-2018, 01:54 PM
I like visiting ancient village and artistic monuments palace Church....

Many interesting things are located mostly in Transylvania, especially places where was inhabited in the past by the saxons, their villages, cities, churches. Other regions like Moldavia and Wallachia are not so rich, especially in medieval architecture, mostly because this regions was controled for 300-350 years by ottomans, and many things here stagnated for centuries, especially architecture. Still, you can find here many intersting things.

Some pictures from Moldova and Maramures (North Transylvania)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/elstef/sets/72157678308701812
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114812520@N03/albums/72157646966007410
https://www.flickr.com/photos/vlahos2003/sets/72157655801606004
https://www.flickr.com/photos/elstef/sets/72157680425853916
https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincentvanbuuren/albums/72157700231957951

From Wallachia (South Romania)
https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=9019841%40N08&view_all=1&text=romania

From Transylvania
https://www.flickr.com/photos/arkntina/albums/72157669181706547/page1

Aspirin
10-24-2018, 08:05 PM
Wooden church in the village of Galu, commune Poiana Teiului, Neamt County, Moldavia region, was built in the early nineteenth century on the site of a much older ancient shrine of 1780, destroyed in unknown circumstances. Built on a knoll, the church burnes in 1812, to be raised again after several years of effort, this time near the bank of Bistrita, up to 1818. The church building is made in Moldavian style with some Transylvanian influences, justified by Transylvanian migration from the late eighteenth century, to Moldova
http://www.blogprinvizor.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/biserica_galu_03_resize1.jpg
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Aspirin
10-25-2018, 01:52 PM
The Dragomirna Monastery was built during the first three decades of the 17th century, 15 km from Suceava, in Mitocu Dragomirnei commune. It is the tallest medieval monastery in northern Moldavia and renowned in Orthodox architecture for its unique proportions and intricate details, mostly carved into stone.

All the pictures are from 1978
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blogen
10-28-2018, 11:34 AM
Lol. Hungarians

Interesting, when a Romanian knows nothing about the European art history, because that history is Hungarian in Transsylvania. The Saxons were a small, but economically and politically important minority in Transsylvania, there art was part of the local Hungarian art of the Carpathian basin everytime, because the Hungarians were their contacts to the European art without direct German-Saxon contacts (the situation was different in Western Hungary and Buda, where the local German origin citizens had direct contacts to the German markets). And main sources of the Hungarian art was equally Italian, French and German in the last eighthundred years and not a dominantly German influenced, especially not the Hungarian gothic art, what was frequently French influenced since the beginnings of the Hungarian gothic. For example the cathedral of Gyulafehérvár, what is a typical French styled early gothic building without any German influence.

The reason was simple: the royal level political contacts (Anjou and Luxemburgian houses) and the magnates artistic intentios of the court was equally important for the development of the Hungarian art, than the Danubian cultural contacts of the urban citizens. And these contacts were mostly French and Italian affected.

Anyway, it's meaningles, Transsylvania and the Hungarian medieval art is dark spot for you. :)

blogen
10-28-2018, 11:35 AM
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IncelSlayer
10-28-2018, 11:42 AM
Interesting, when a Romanian knows nothing about the European art history, because that history is Hungarian in Transsylvania. The Saxons were a small, but economically and politically important minority in Transsylvania, there art was part of the local Hungarian art of the Carpathian basin everytime, because the Hungarians were their contacts to the European art without direct German-Saxon contacts (the situation was different in Western Hungary and Buda, where the local German origin citizens had direct contacts to the German markets). And main sources of the Hungarian art was equally Italian, French and German in the last eighthundred years and not a dominantly German influenced, especially not the Hungarian gothic art, what was frequently French influenced since the beginnings of the Hungarian gothic. For example the cathedral of Gyulafehérvár, what is a typical French styled early gothic building without any German influence.

The reason was simple: the royal level political contacts (Anjou and Luxemburgian houses) and the magnates artistic intentios of the court was equally important for the development of the Hungarian art, than the Danubian cultural contacts of the urban citizens. And these contacts were mostly French and Italian affected.

Anyway, it's meaningles, Transsylvania and the Hungarian medieval art is dark spot for you. :)

LMFAO the bozgor spent his entire evening, writing this pile of horse crap, yet no one read it

https://i.imgur.com/gBr0guA.gif

Aspirin
10-29-2018, 10:43 AM
Interesting, when a Romanian knows nothing about the European art history, because that history is Hungarian in Transsylvania. The Saxons were a small, but economically and politically important minority in Transsylvania, there art was part of the local Hungarian art of the Carpathian basin everytime, because the Hungarians were their contacts to the European art without direct German-Saxon contacts (the situation was different in Western Hungary and Buda, where the local German origin citizens had direct contacts to the German markets). And main sources of the Hungarian art was equally Italian, French and German in the last eighthundred years and not a dominantly German influenced, especially not the Hungarian gothic art, what was frequently French influenced since the beginnings of the Hungarian gothic. For example the cathedral of Gyulafehérvár, what is a typical French styled early gothic building without any German influence.

The reason was simple: the royal level political contacts (Anjou and Luxemburgian houses) and the magnates artistic intentios of the court was equally important for the development of the Hungarian art, than the Danubian cultural contacts of the urban citizens. And these contacts were mostly French and Italian affected.

Anyway, it's meaningles, Transsylvania and the Hungarian medieval art is dark spot for you. :)

I think that the origin and development of hungarian and transylvanian art is a dark spot for you. Most of the western influence was bringed in Hungary by saxons from today South Germany in XIIth century. Through history, they was the main driving force of developement of art in this region, especially in Transylvania. Before arrival of germans, the hungarian art had a big byzantine influence, especially in the architecture. The Cathedral from Alba Iulia was build in XIIIth century under Arpad dynasty, before Anjou and Luxemburgian houses take the power of the country in the early XIVth century, and she is a mix of romanesque with some early gothic elements.

In Eastern Europe and Balkans was only three ethnicities who had a big impact on the development of culture, and many other things, especially architecture. They was germans, greeks, and italians.

Still, I don't understand how your post is related to moldavian architecture, csangos settlers, and their influence on this side of the Carpathians.

Mortimer
10-29-2018, 10:51 AM
looks beautiful.