What is your opinion about Armenia?

[Musso]

Simple question. What opinions or stereotypes you have about Armenia?


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CAPITAL: YEREVAN
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PRESIDENT: SERZH SARGSYAN
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PRIME MINISTER: HOVIK ABRAHAMYAN
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NATIONAL RELIGION: ARMENIA APOSTOLIC CHURCH
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NATIONAL LANGUAGE: ARMENIAN (INDO-EUROPEAN)
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ARMENIAN PEOPLE
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Please no trolling. Let's all be mature here.

[1stLightHorse]

One word. Khorovats.

[Musso]

One word. Khorovats.

That is right, good sir!

[portusaus]

I like them much better than their Ottoman neighbors, that's for sure. Between so-so and like

[Han Cholo]

Completely indifferent.

[Armand_Duval]

To be honest, in my neck of the woods we coudnt care less about Armenia, we only know it is an eastern euopean country and some of us know that int has produced some remarkable ppl, but the average citizen coudnt even spot it in a map.

[zhaoyun]

Generally good, I've known quite a few Armenians.

One of the oldest nations on earth
Unique culture, language, history
One of the first Christian nations along with Ethiopia
Smart, entrepreneurial, sharp people
Great Business people

[Musso]

To be honest, in my neck of the woods we coudnt care less about Armenia, we only know it is an eastern euopean country and some of us know that int has produced some remarkable ppl, but the average citizen coudnt even spot it in a map.

Seems Armenia is not well known in Central America, but in S. America like Argentina and Brazil it is more known, as there is more Armenians there. I think Armenia should greatly increase relations with Latin America.

[1stLightHorse]

That is right, good sir!

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[1stLightHorse]

MMA/Judo Armenians:

Gokor Chivichyan, Karo Parisyan, Manny Gamburyan, Geghard Movsesian, etc etc

First MMA fighter that translated Judo into MMA successfully:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5j6NFgJKg

[Musso]

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As opposed to Muslim Countries that have Kebab/Barbecue, Armenians love Pork Barbecue, it's probably the meat that's eaten the most.

[StonyArabia]

Neutral not love it or hate it. Just another nation to me that is distant.

[Musso]

MMA/Judo Armenians:

Gokor Chivichyan, Karo Parisyan, Manny Gamburyan, Geghard Movsesian, etc etc

First MMA fighter that translated Judo into MMA successfully:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5j6NFgJKg

We also have King Arthur (plays for Germany) ;)

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[Armenian Bishop]

As opposed to Muslim Countries that have Kebab/Barbecue, Armenians love Pork Barbecue, it's probably the meat that's eaten the most.

Yes, very true, Armenians do enjoy pork. However, from my lifelong experience with Armenian Kabab Barbecues, here in California -- in the Fresno Area, and the San Francisco Bay Area -- lamb that has been the meat of choice.

[Hadouken]

Like ! :)

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I don't know too much, but support it in general due to past history.

[Armenian Bishop]

I love Lusine Zakarian's version of the Armenian Operatic Song Cilicia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBzm7bYl3qM

[Teyrn]

Not really sure tbh- I know it's an old country in terms of it being Christian, one of its famous pre-Christian historical figures is Tigranes Magnus, and so on.

[Incal]

I have a positive view of Armenia.

[Musso]

I have a positive view of Armenia.

And Peru is my favorite country of Latin America ;)

[Musso]

bump....

looks like we have one person that wants Armenia to burn in hell :cool:

[MarkyMark]

I like Armenia. They should get closer to Syria and Greece, because they all share common interests: taking their ancestral lands back from Turkey.

[Musso]

I like Armenia. They should get closer to Syria and Greece, because they all share common interests: taking their ancestral lands back from Turkey.

Given Assad stays in Syria we will maintain our warm relations of course.

[MarkyMark]

Given Assad stays in Syria we will maintain our warm relations of course.

One day the Christians will make a come back in Syria, and then the 3 nations will truly be inseparable allies.

[Musso]

One day the Christians will make a come back in Syria, and then the 3 nations will truly be inseparable allies.

That would be great. Unfortunately, the "Christian West" opposes Christian power in the Middle East. They much rather have their Sunni buddies in control.

[Armando Esteban Quito]

I will start with the general positive & negative stereotypes held about Armenians here in Los Angeles:
Negative:
1. Superficial (known for driving expensive luxurious cars or wearing lavish brand-name clothing)
2. Bad Odor
3. Known for involvement in all levels/types of frauds e.g. insurance frauds
4. Big 'noses' + Hairy

Positive:
1. Good musicians
2. Good fighters
3. Relatively peaceful, not violent or dangerous.


My opinions on Armenia:
Positive/Indifferent:
1. Oldest Christian nation/church
2. Good fighters
3. Strictly homogeneous culture/nation.
4. Good looking women
5. Has some of the oldest scripts/literature.
6. Elder Armenians are multilingual (many know Russian, Turkish, Arabic, etc)
7. A small percentage are extremely educated (younger generation)

Negative:
1. Rude
2. Younger generations are cocky/machista.
3. Women = superficilal

[Musso]

Ah California Armenians...even among Armenians they have a so-so reputation haha...they are much different than the Armenians on the East Coast.


I will start with the general positive & negative stereotypes held about Armenians here in Los Angeles:
Negative:
1. Superficial (known for driving expensive luxurious cars or wearing lavish brand-name clothing)
2. Bad Odor
3. Known for involvement in all levels/types of frauds e.g. insurance frauds
4. Big 'noses' + Hairy

1. This is unfortunately very true. I notice this quite a lot among Greek, Iranian, Lebanese, Russian folks.
2. In my experience, the Armenians that I know always put TOO much cologne.
3. There seems to be some Armenians groups involved in such white collar crime in California. Such groups though are usually in connection with Russian/Eastern European mafia groups.
4. Yes this is true.


Positive:
1. Good musicians
2. Good fighters
3. Relatively peaceful, not violent or dangerous.
1. Yes! especially in string instruments
2. We are big in boxing
3. We are pretty laid back. Armenia is one of the safest countries out there, where you never have to worry about violent crimes.



My opinions on Armenia:
Positive/Indifferent:
1. Oldest Christian nation/church
2. Good fighters
3. Strictly homogeneous culture/nation.
4. Good looking women
5. Has some of the oldest scripts/literature.
6. Elder Armenians are multilingual (many know Russian, Turkish, Arabic, etc)
7. A small percentage are extremely educated (younger generation)


Fair points!


Negative:
1. Rude
2. Younger generations are cocky/machista.
3. Women = superficilal
1. Yeah some Armenians can be a bit rude and cold to strangers.
2. I agree some of the younger generation tries to be macho
3. Yes, they are very materialist at times.

[Barbarian]

Armenia should apply for a membership of being a Turkish province, with full autonomy, they'll have economic liberty, problems with Azeris will be solved, all of their troubles will be over.

[Musso]

Armenia should apply for a membership of being a Turkish province, with full autonomy, they'll have economic liberty, problems with Azeris will be solved, all of their troubles will be over.

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[Barbarian]

:picard1:

Why is this such a bad idea? Would you rather be an isolated dependent country? The best way is cooperation with thy neighbours.

[Musso]

Why is this such a bad idea? Would you rather be an isolated dependent country? The best way is cooperation with thy neighbours.

We much rather be part of Russia, USA, Georgia, EU, etc than Turkey.

[wvwvw]

I like Armenia. They should get closer to Syria and Greece, because they all share common interests: taking their ancestral lands back from Turkey.
Sorry we're not interested

[Alphawolf]

I have a fairly strong affinity to Kim Kardashian. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqiOyWLGfuU

[Musso]

Stop spamming the thread. I specifically warned against it in the OP.

[gold_fenix]

Really i haven't a opinion but i can say something, admiration , strong with invasors, keep chistian in a xtremly dificult zone

[legolasbozo]

as a turkish citizen myself, visiting armenia would be dangerous for me? For instance rent a daily apartment, go to club etc.

[Cristiano viejo]

Good Chessplayers.
First Christian kingdom.
Anti-Turkish.
Almost Europeans.
Surnames ended in -kian or in -nian.
Armenian Mafia in LA.

[Germaniac]

Well, apart from a few Armenians I know, who are pretty pleasant people and Armenian cooking, I know almost nothing about the country, but I like it. Christian faith, the people, at least the few I know are nice and I loved to cooking.

[Musso]

as a turkish citizen myself, visiting armenia would be dangerous for me? For instance rent a daily apartment, go to club etc.

Of course not. Turks routinely have visited Armenia and experienced no problems.

[legolasbozo]

Of course not. Turks routinely have visited Armenia and experienced no problems.

İf i visited georgia this summer, i may passing through armenia then.

[Musso]

İf i visited georgia this summer, i may passing through armenia then.

Sounds good!

[DarkSecret]

I think relationship between Turkey and Armenia should be restored. I don't know very much about it but I am interested in seeing it.

[Xanthias]

Simple question. What opinions or stereotypes


Actually there aren't any stereotypes about Armenia.

[Rudel]

I "like" Armenia, though I don't have any connexion to it. For France, Armenians have always been a bridge to the East.

[nose]

system of a down

[PolishAmerican190]

All ok except those kardasians

[Musso]

All ok except those kardasians

What do they have to do with Armenia?

[PolishAmerican190]

What do they have to do with Armenia?

Isn't Armenia their heritage?

[Musso]

Isn't Armenia their heritage?

-They grew up as Americans in a typical American household
-They have little to no connection nor knowledge of Armenian culture or Armenia
-They never stepped foot in Armenia
-Their ancestry is a mix of many ethnicities including Armenian. It's like saying a mixed American, that is born and raised in US, that has some Irish ancestry represents Ireland.

[PolishAmerican190]

-They grew up as Americans in a typical American household
-They have little to no connection nor knowledge of Armenian culture or Armenia
-They never stepped foot in Armenia
-Their ancestry is a mix of many ethnicities including Armenian. It's like saying a mixed American, that is born and raised in US, that has some Irish ancestry represents Ireland.


Great points but I was trying to imply that Armenia is very good except for the traits they inherited from Armenia. Ie everything bad from Armenia passed on to them!

[Musso]

Great points but I was trying to imply that Armenia is very good except for the traits they inherited from Armenia. Ie everything bad from Armenia passed on to them!

Well those traits, they probably have inherited from their American side because Armenian families are rather different than how those people are and act.

[PolishAmerican190]

Well those traits, they probably have inherited from their American side because Armenian families are rather different than how those people are and act.

I believe that their behavior is low by any standard anywhere.

[Musso]

I believe that their behavior is low by any standard anywhere.

Of course, but in Hollywood, standards tend to be pretty low for such celebrities and pop-stars. They just use the 'Armenian' label like they use Chanel clothing. It's a brand that advertises them. In this case, the Armenian brand gives them an exotic/unique identity in Hollywood and that pays. They have fooled the world pretty well in making everyone believe they are "typical Armenians". Far from it.

As I said, what the Kardashians do is equivalent to:

An American pop-star, that is 1/4 German, 1/4 Irish, 1/2 Polish, 3rd or 4th generation, that grew up in an American household and has very little knowledge of Polish culture or Poland, doesn't speak the language nor has ever been to Poland, all of a sudden saying to everyone "Oh I am Polish" and people thinking that pop star represents Poland and they she represents a typical person from Poland.

[PolishAmerican190]

Of course, but in Hollywood, standards tend to be pretty low for such celebrities and pop-stars. They just use the 'Armenian' label like they use Chanel clothing. It's a brand that advertises them. In this case, the Armenian brand gives them an exotic/unique identity in Hollywood and that pays. They have fooled the world pretty well in making everyone believe they are "typical Armenians". Far from it.

As I said, what the Kardashians do is equivalent to:

An American pop-star, that is 1/4 German, 1/4 Irish, 1/2 Polish, 3rd or 4th generation, that grew up in an American household and has very little knowledge of Polish culture or Poland, doesn't speak the language nor has ever been to Poland, all of a sudden saying to everyone "Oh I am Polish" and people thinking that pop star represents Poland and they she represents a typical person from Poland.

Thank god there are no poles like that


Oops there is kesha

[Smaug]

Like and respect them. We have a big community in São Paulo.

[Rojava]

Armenians are one of my most favourite people in the world.

[Mortimer]

i judge them as individuals. but i think many can be quiete racist similar to bulgarians or greeks. i will vote so-so

[Musso]

Good, i am Anatolian i want to kick out pan turk and kurds of my land :D if you love armenians you should get out their land. i also want to united Armenians, gagavuz and pontians etc we should be united for Anatolia :D

What ethnicity are you?

[Armenian Bishop]

i judge them as individuals. but i think many can be quiete racist similar to bulgarians or greeks. i will vote so-so

Gee! Armenians, at The Apricity, including me, were among some of the first to befriend The Murican. Now, he thanks us by saying that many Armenians "can be quite racist similar to Bulgarians and Greeks." Apparently, Murican thinks that Armenians are a mediocre lot, worthy only of a "so-so" vote. Gee, thanks for nothing!

[Hithaeglir]

Not negative.Not positive.Just neutral.

[Kamal900]

I'm neutral towards Armenia as well. Its a bit strange that the Turks and the Armenians are genetic cousins(Turkish people are predominately Anatolian with minor Turkic admixture), and yet, there's a deep divide between the two communities.

[Musso]

I'm neutral towards Armenia as well. Its a bit strange that the Turks and the Armenians are genetic cousins(Turkish people are predominately Anatolian with minor Turkic admixture), and yet, there's a deep divide between the two communities.

I wouldn't say we're genetic cousins, genetic cousins of Armenians are Hemshin people.

[Kamal900]

I wouldn't say we're genetic cousins, genetic cousins of Armenians are Hemshin people.

Well, the hemshin are basically Armenians anyway.

[Mortimer]

Gee! Armenians, at The Apricity, including me, were among some of the first to befriend The Murican. Now, he thanks us by saying that many Armenians "can be quite racist similar to Bulgarians and Greeks." Apparently, Murican thinks that Armenians are a mediocre lot, worthy only of a "so-so" vote. Gee, thanks for nothing!

it is nothing personal bro, i like the apricity armenians.

[Mortimer]

Gee! Armenians, at The Apricity, including me, were among some of the first to befriend The Murican. Now, he thanks us by saying that many Armenians "can be quite racist similar to Bulgarians and Greeks." Apparently, Murican thinks that Armenians are a mediocre lot, worthy only of a "so-so" vote. Gee, thanks for nothing!

if i could change my vote, i would vote that i like them.

[Andrei the 2nd]

bump....

looks like we have one person that wants Armenia to burn in hell :cool:

Cough cough *that one Turkish guy

[Armenian Bishop]

it is nothing personal bro, i like the apricity armenians.

Sorry, there wasn't good cause to get angry about it! I understand that it isn't personal, thanks for explaining.


if i could change my vote, i would vote that i like them.

It's alright -- no need to change the vote. Folks are free to express their sentiments, one way or another, but I'm glad you feel that way. On some occasions, I wouldn't mind changing my vote, as well.

[Hochmeister]

I like Armenia, same with Georgia.

[Linet]

Positive http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/pozitive/s0817.gif

...plus pretty, very pretty girls :eyes (her accent in Greek is excellent :dancing: )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WKM5PKZTq8

[VictriX]

I do respect and like Armenia! The Armenian people has a very interestng, long-lasting history, good traditions which are still alive, a beautiful language with unique writing. The country is wonderful with a splendid view!

[Musso]

I do respect and like Armenia! The Armenian people has a very interestng, long-lasting history, good traditions which are still alive, a beautiful language with unique writing. The country is wonderful with a splendid view!

Thank you for that! Since it seems you live in Moscow, you should visit Armenia one day, tourism is increasing and Armenia is very Russia friendly :P

[Svipdag]

I don't suppose that I think of Armenia twice in a year. I have known a few Armenians and they were all nice people with whom I got along well. I suspect that the Armenian Apostolic Church may be the world's oldest Christian church. I know about that only because a friend of mine became a priest in that church. Strange to say, he was not Armenian.

[Musso]

I don't suppose that I think of Armenia twice in a year. I have known a few Armenians and they were all nice people with whom I got along well. I suspect that the Armenian Apostolic Church may be the world's oldest Christian church. I know about that only because a friend of mine became a priest in that church.

Good to hear that! Some of the oldest Armenians (several generations already in the USA) live in Massachusetts, namely Watertown.

[VictriX]

You are welcome ). I've always loved Armenia ). And, by the way, my German tutor is Armenian ).
In fact, we wanted to visit it soon. We're thinking of buying some estate in Serbia and need to save money for that, but if the tickets aren't too expensive, we may visit it soon..

[Musso]

You are welcome ). I've always loved Armenia ). And, by the way, my German tutor is Armenian ).
In fact, we wanted to visit it soon. We're thinking of buying some estate in Serbia and need to save money for that, but if the tickets aren't too expensive, we may visit it soon..

Shouldn't be that expensive, Moscow-Yerevan flights are very numerous and in Armenia, tourism is cheap ;)

[VictriX]

Shouldn't be that expensive, Moscow-Yerevan flights are very numerous and in Armenia, tourism is cheap ;)

I hope everything will be okay in Russia...
Are autumn and winter good for visiting? Is our regime still visa-free?

[Musso]

I hope everything will be okay in Russia...
Are autumn and winter good for visiting? Is our regime still visa-free?

The best months to visit are May, June and September/October. Yes Russian citizens (and all CIS, EU, and bunch of other countries) can visit visa-free.

[VictriX]

The best months to visit are May, June and September/October. Yes Russian citizens (and all CIS, EU, and bunch of other countries) can visit visa-free.

Hope, the USA, too. Actually, October may be even possible, if there isn't too much work )

[Musso]

Hope, the USA, too. Actually, October may be even possible, if there isn't too much work )

We are working to have visa free with USA also (should happen soon actually). For now, USA citizens just get a visa at the airport for a small fee and you can stay like 3 months with that visa. It's very easy to get. You can get it online too and just print the paper out.