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wvwvw
04-30-2014, 01:45 AM
Iranians:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/middle_east_iranians_react_to_cartoon_row/img/3.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/01/28/world/middleeast/28lede_syria/28lede_syria-blog480.jpg

http://www.wnd.com/images/ahmadinejad1.jpg


Turks:

http://www.swic.edu/uploadedImages/SWIC_Root/ABE/Images/Altan_profilephoto.jpg

http://www.europeword.com/images/turkey/turkish_people1.jpg

http://www.ataa.org/newsletter/vanguard003.jpg

Alessio
04-30-2014, 01:48 AM
Turks

Musso
04-30-2014, 02:02 AM
Depends on the region of Iran.

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 02:10 AM
Of course we are closer to Turks, is that even a question? We are neighbors lol.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png

Iranians are a southern extension of Caucasus peoples. We are closer to West Asian peoples like Turks, Abkhazians, Kurds, Georgians etc.


Are you still mad about my theory of Greeks being a part of transitional forms between Caucasoid and Negroid? :cool:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/yj5q2yc7.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 02:16 AM
And by the way, i would rather be an Indian than a something between Caucasoid and Somalid (we call it "greek")
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/9iwms8pl.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Siberian Cold Breeze
04-30-2014, 02:57 AM
Iranians usually have long faces, big eyes .Turks may have long faces big eyes too ...but not very common...

http://i.imgur.com/oQ8hjm8.jpg

this is exotic for instance

wvwvw
04-30-2014, 03:10 AM
And by the way, i would rather be an Indian than a something between Caucasoid and Somalid (we call it "greek")
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/9iwms8pl.png (http://www.directupload.net)

That is not even a Greek costume :lol: The gypsy with the turban you posted is probably Iranian attending a multi national parade abroad or something. He is as much Greek as the black kid in the photo below:

http://nstatic.tanea.gr/16561030_EVF6_PARELASH_28OKTOBRH_ARBANITOPOYLOS_YP _PAIDEIAS_1383117712589.limghandler.jpg?i=aT1maWxl cyUyZjElMmZtZWRpYSUyZjIwMTMlMmYxMCUyZjI5JTJmMTY1Nj EwMzBfZXZmNl9wYXJlbGFzaF8yOG9rdG9icmhfYXJiYW5pdG9w b3lsb3NfeXBfcGFpZGVpYXNfMTM4MzExNzcxMjU4OS5qcGcmdz 02NjAmaD0zNzYmc3Q9dHJ1ZSZiZz0xNjc3NzIxNSZjcj10cnVl JmF0PTQ%3D

Smeagol
04-30-2014, 03:49 AM
Depends, but overall Turks, although some Iranians do have an Indid/Nordindid look.

StonyArabia
04-30-2014, 03:57 AM
Depends on the region of Iran.

Pretty much this. For example Iranian Arabs both Ahwazi and Islanders have nothing to do with Turks and are much closer to people of Arabia on every level, especially the latter. Well the Sistani and Balochis are more South Asian shifted. Then you have Kavkazian like elements among Gilakis and Manzandranis, as well Azeris. In general Northwest Iran is closer to Turkey well Southeast Iran is closer to India. Well the Southwest and the islands are Arabian.

Faklon
04-30-2014, 09:13 AM
Of course we are closer to Turks, is that even a question? We are neighbors lol.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png



So more or less,transitional form between Greek and Dravinian

Greek
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/786512/g06/841e5d77.jpg

Kurd
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/media/images/photographs/2005_Syria_Kurds.jpg

Iranian
http://www.wnd.com/images/ahmadinejad1.jpg

Dravinian
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/dravidian_2.jpg

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 09:22 AM
Iranians usually have long faces, big eyes .Turks may have long faces big eyes too ...but not very common...

Turks are a gypsy-mongoloid race.

Dombra
04-30-2014, 09:49 AM
Iranians vary a lot but are as a whole closer to Turks

random
04-30-2014, 09:51 AM
They are closer to your mom.

gültekin
04-30-2014, 11:34 AM
Turks are a gypsy-mongoloid race.
than yours ancestors rolling like a pig in the marsh and frogs hunted, founded Turks states and empires

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 11:40 AM
than yours ancestors rolling like a pig in the marsh and frogs hunted, founded Turks states and empires


dafuck are you talking bro ?

Edit: (sorry for being so late)

And while we were haunting frogs and collecting mushrooms, your ancestors weren't even aware of their own existence on this planet your tukic race invaded Europe very lately, showing nothing but just their far less intelligence, pillages and misery, and talking about intelligence, you turks are less intelligent than the avarage european, you come to the european countries bashing us with your proud turkish nationalism, you are as proud as a peacock but have nothing of a peacock and you even say that your nationalism is a sign of your own (atrocious) intelligency, what for an insane pity and shame people you are.

gültekin
04-30-2014, 11:54 AM
dafuck are you talking bro ?


u cant good talking with ur ass, u need much more training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEo0BZk_raI

Trun
04-30-2014, 11:58 AM
than yours ancestors rolling like a pig in the marsh and frogs hunted, founded Turks states and empires

Lol when Persians had an empire Turks didn't even exist.

gültekin
04-30-2014, 12:09 PM
Lol when Persians had an empire Turks didn't even exist.
my anwers was to the Flander frog hunter. any way, persians was our slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 12:37 PM
Turks are a gypsy-mongoloid race.

khosh amadid, shoma farsi harf mizanid?



my anwers was to the Flander frog hunter. any way, persians was our slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty

Drag your farts somewhere else, Tork-e khar

denz
04-30-2014, 12:40 PM
Lol when Persians had an empire Turks didn't even exist.

Question, what you had, a village ...

Visitor_22
04-30-2014, 12:42 PM
Turks are a gypsy-mongoloid race.

Since when Gypsies have something with Mongoloid people?

They are from Northern India - Land of Aryans. lol :)

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 01:09 PM
That is not even a Greek costume :lol: The gypsy with the turban you posted is probably Iranian attending a multi national parade abroad or something.

Sure. Greeks in the eyes of europeans
http://static3.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries_520x335/upload/5/6/4/2360692/fpoe220510_7526.jpg

Faklon
04-30-2014, 01:15 PM
Sure. Greeks in the eyes of europeans
http://static3.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries_520x335/upload/5/6/4/2360692/fpoe220510_7526.jpg

http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2010/07/29/austrias-far-rights-campaign-with-greek-and-they-dont-pay-him-a-cent/

gültekin
04-30-2014, 01:26 PM
khosh amadid, shoma farsi harf mizanid?




Drag your farts somewhere else, Tork-e khar
how much is your sisters for " Mutʿah " ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 01:26 PM
how much is your sisters for " Mut'a " ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah

I warn you, if you ever mention my sister (or another family member) again, i will fuck 77 female past generations of your mother

cally
04-30-2014, 01:27 PM
Please stop personal insults.

Hithaeglir
04-30-2014, 01:28 PM
Before or after the plastic surgeries :D

ButlerKing
04-30-2014, 01:28 PM
Of course we are closer to Turks, is that even a question? We are neighbors lol.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png

Iranians are a southern extension of Caucasus peoples. We are closer to West Asian peoples like Turks, Abkhazians, Kurds, Georgians etc.


Are you still mad about my theory of Greeks being a part of transitional forms between Caucasoid and Negroid? :cool:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/yj5q2yc7.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)


That's interesting. To have only 0.3% black DNA and get called mixed?

gültekin
04-30-2014, 01:29 PM
shut up moron, and count the money fr Muta
I warn you, if you ever mention my sister (or another family member) again, i will fuck 77 female past generations of your mother

Faklon
04-30-2014, 01:33 PM
I warn you, if you ever mention my sister (or another family member) again, i will fuck 77 female past generations of your mother

Your sister changed her nose just to be mentioned.

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 01:49 PM
That's interesting. To have only 0.3% black DNA and get called mixed?

They have still ancestral Black admixture although it's heavily diluted according to autosomal DNA.

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 01:53 PM
Your sister changed her nose just to be mentioned.

Take the gultekin's cock out of your mouth, then we can talk

ButlerKing
04-30-2014, 01:58 PM
They have still ancestral Black admixture although it's heavily diluted according to autosomal DNA.

Yeah but it's only 0.3%, that is nothing.

Faklon
04-30-2014, 01:59 PM
Take the gultekin's cock out of your mouth, then we can talk

For the time being you're smoking it like a hookah,wannabe an American Xerxes?

gültekin
04-30-2014, 02:02 PM
Take the gultekin's cock out of your mouth, then we can talk
why so angry ? mut‘ah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah) ist already legally in ur contry. i have a "legal" question. how much is ur sister fr mutah?

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 02:34 PM
I would insanely well fuck any turkish woman if they weren't so shy and speaking and ugly German, I can assure you that their arrogance are as high as the will to kill them.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 02:51 PM
Since when Gypsies have something with Mongoloid people?

They are from Northern India - Land of Aryans. lol :)

I know, was just provocative.

but what's not a joke is that they have a mentality which is worse than these of the gypsies :tongue

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 03:12 PM
Looks like gültekin has something against me, what are you mad of bro ?

bdw, How much for your 7 sister to be slaughtered ? I doubt they cost just 1 Dollar in real life :tongue

gültekin
04-30-2014, 03:14 PM
I would insanely well fuck any turkish woman if they weren't so shy and speaking and ugly German, I can assure you that their arrogance are as high as the will to kill them.
u cant anyway. I've been wondering, how much has did your father pay for Muta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah) on a Sow, for making you ?

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 03:44 PM
Lord XerXes why didn't you reply to my text in Persian? It seems to me that you are just using that name and pretending to be Iranian in order to hide your true identity. Speak Persian, now

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 03:45 PM
I know, was just provocative.

but what's not a joke is that they have a mentality which is worse than these of the gypsies :tongue

Not really

StonyArabia
04-30-2014, 03:51 PM
Turks and Persians have always been rivals Ottomans/Safavids for example. But Iran is multiethnic and even multiracial nation, although Persian and Iranic derived people make up the majority. There is minorities who don't cluster typical with either Turks or Iranians for that matter like Ahwazis, or Arab islanders, the latter especially cluster with other Arabian populations. Though the Iranians got our islands as gifts from the British without our consent in 1971.

Visitor_22
04-30-2014, 04:00 PM
I know, was just provocative.

but what's not a joke is that they have a mentality which is worse than these of the gypsies :tongue


Well, mongoloids aka asians have much better mentality than caucasoids.

I don't mind turkish people, they are "caucasoids".


Buryat mongolian child
http://transformsiberia.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc_0062.jpg

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 04:12 PM
Turks and Persians have always been rivals Ottomans/Safavids for example. But Iran is multiethnic and even multiracial nation, although Persian and Iranic derived people make up the majority. There is minorities who don't cluster typical with either Turks or Iranians for that matter like Ahwazis, or Arab islanders, the latter especially cluster with other Arabian populations. Though the Iranians got our islands as gifts from the British without our consent in 1971.

Take your chubby arabid face out of this thread you wannabe-Caucasian with fake identity, you don't have Caucasian ancestry or something. You were just a camel-fucking desert tribe before the British decided to use you as cannon fodder against the Ottomans in order to achieve their goal in the middle east. No one cares about your delusions anyway

StonyArabia
04-30-2014, 04:17 PM
Take your chubby arabid face out of this thread you wannabe-Caucasian with fake identity, you don't have Caucasian ancestry or something. You were just a camel-fucking desert tribe before the British decided to use you as cannon fodder against the Ottomans in order to achieve their goal in the middle east. No one cares about your delusions anyway

No my Arabian side was loyal to the Ottomans and paid a heavy price for their loyalty and this when the British expelled us to Iraq. In Iraq the Shammar created the 1921 revolt which the British suffered defeats. However our islands were given to you by the British as gifts in 1971 those are facts. I am half Caucasian dude. Arab Islanders want their independence, let's not forget how the Shah and his regime tried to westernize us by force, and then Persianize us. If you want us to be loyal to Iran then let's us have our autonomy in our islands. Arab islanders are my people because they are Bedouin/Gulf Arabs like us.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 04:17 PM
Well, mongoloids aka asians have much better mentality than caucasoids.

I don't mind turkish people, they are "caucasoids".


Buryat mongolian child
http://transformsiberia.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/dsc_0062.jpg


God damn it, when I wrote "they" I was referring to the Turks (and they -aka the Turks- are mentally worse than the gypsies) just look at the other turkish poster shit, insulting Iran and other countries. I was no way referring to your or any related countries of your side

And turks are by by no means caucasoids, they are nowhere representative in the earth, they are an alien race.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 04:21 PM
Take your chubby arabid face out of this thread you wannabe-Caucasian with fake identity, you don't have Caucasian ancestry or something. You were just a camel-fucking desert tribe before the British decided to use you as cannon fodder against the Ottomans in order to achieve their goal in the middle east. No one cares about your delusions anyway

Bro, take your shit iranic asshole head and go back to your country, or even to Turkey ! They are awaiting you with spears since turks considers Iranians to be their slaves (they consider everyone to be their slaves, they are the pure master-race !)

StonyArabia
04-30-2014, 04:29 PM
Bro, take your shit iranic asshole head and go back to your country, or even to Turkey ! They are awaiting you with spears since turks considers Iranians to be their slaves (they consider everyone to be their slaves, they are the pure master-race !)

Nah Turks and Iranians are more like rivals. They always wanted to be the geopolitical powers in the Middle East. However this not my business, but they need to give our people the Arab islanders either autonomy or outright independence. We never wanted to be part of Iran but the British the worst empire to walk on earth disregarded us and gave our islands which are our nation to Iran as gifts. They say we should move and forget the past, but the British played with the Midle East like their playground and made us enslaved to Iran, and during the Shah's regime we were heavily oppressed and forced to Westernize, when we don't and also Persianized. Now their is issues but not bad as it was with the Shah, but still I want my people to determine their own future and aspiration.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 04:32 PM
Lord XerXes why didn't you reply to my text in Persian? It seems to me that you are just using that name and pretending to be Iranian in order to hide your true identity. Speak Persian, now

I don't know persian because I've never learnt persian, and although my Father does come from Iran (Aghadjani) but since he never was on my side I dont speak persian.

btw, I am a mixture of roumanian-iranian and maybe even greek descent, so I am not fully persian.

But you should stop being so harrasing arabs, they haven't done anything (and yet they are caucasoids, whenever you want it or not) not like Turkic shit heads.

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 04:34 PM
God damn it, when I wrote "they" I was referring to the Turks (and they -aka the Turks- are mentally worse than the gypsies) just look at the other turkish poster shit, insulting Iran and other countries. I was no way referring to your or any related countries of your side

And turks are by by no means caucasoids, they are nowhere representative in the earth, they are an alien race.

Who are you to decide who is "alien" or not?
Also your writing style shows that you are far worse then any gypsy

7eleven
04-30-2014, 04:34 PM
Israel > Iran

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 04:35 PM
Bro, take your shit iranic asshole head and go back to your country, or even to Turkey ! They are awaiting you with spears since turks considers Iranians to be their slaves (they consider everyone to be their slaves, they are the pure master-race !)

I knew you had nothing to do wit Iran, i can recognise a semite from a thousand mile away. Stop pretending to be Iranian and using our names you smelly semite. I hope a camel rapes you a thousand times so that you can empathize with those poor animals

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140430/6oulh8h2.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Ultra
04-30-2014, 04:36 PM
They are closer to Turks for sure, although both Iranians and Turks overlap with Indians to some degree due to there being some Australoid/Veddoid admixture in the Middle-East.

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 04:37 PM
They are closer to Turks for sure, although both Iranians and Turks overlap with Indians to some degree due to there being some Australoid/Veddoid admixture in the Middle-East.

No Turk nor Iranian is Veddoid nor Australoid

Rojava
04-30-2014, 04:40 PM
I knew you had nothing to do wit Iran, i can recognise a semite from a thousand mile away. Stop pretending to be Iranian and using our names you smelly semite. I hope a camel rapes you a thousand times so that you can empathize with those poor animals

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140430/6oulh8h2.png (http://www.directupload.net)

And you have nothing to do with Iranic people. They are respectful unlike you.

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 04:43 PM
Nah Turks and Iranians are more like rivals. They always wanted to be the geopolitical powers in the Middle East. However this not my business, but they need to give our people the Arab islanders either autonomy or outright independence. We never wanted to be part of Iran but the British the worst empire to walk on earth disregarded us and gave our islands which are our nation to Iran as gifts. They say we should move and forget the past, but the British played with the Midle East like their playground and made us enslaved to Iran, and during the Shah's regime we were heavily oppressed and forced to Westernize, when we don't and also Persianized. Now their is issues but not bad as it was with the Shah, but still I want my people to determine their own future and aspiration.

I agree with you, being part of British is the worst thing ever, but considering the Shah's regime, it would have been much more better to be with him than with today's Iran Regime, I would lovely see the Shah back but with no western influences, trying to restore a little bit of prestige and order in the region, and being of course against the Ottomans wich are just subhumans violenting and oppressing Europa and the rest of the Middle-Eastern.

Bdw, you talk about aspiration and freedom, there's yet no freedom in any arabian country.

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 04:44 PM
I agree with you, being part of British is the worst thing ever, but considering the Shah's regime, it would have been much more better to be with him than with today's Iran Regime, I would lovely se Shah's back but with no western influences, trying to restore a little bit of prestige and order in the region, and being of course against the Ottomans wich are just subhumans violenting and oppressing Europa and the rest of the Middle-Eastern.

Bdw, you talk about aspiration and freedom, there's no freedom yet in any arabian country today so.
LOL which Ottomans are you talking about?
I look at a map and dont see a state named Ottoman or do you still live in the 20th century?

Ultra
04-30-2014, 04:44 PM
No Turk nor Iranian is Veddoid nor Australoid
It exists as a minor influence to a more or lesser degree, in the whole Middle-East. Here's a few Australoid influenced Arabs, for a start.

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l515/stonesheep1/arabplate2hm6.jpg

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 04:46 PM
It exists as a minor influence to a more or lesser degree, in the whole Middle-East. Here's a few Australoid influenced Arabs, for a start.

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l515/stonesheep1/arabplate2hm6.jpg

I never saw a Turk with Weddoid features (except if he has Indian ancestry)

Behrouz
04-30-2014, 04:48 PM
And you have nothing to do with Iranic people. They are respectful unlike you.

How can i be respectful towards them while they are disrespectful against Iran and my people?

StonyArabia
04-30-2014, 04:51 PM
I agree with you, being part of British is the worst thing ever, but considering the Shah's regime, it would have been much more better to be with him than with today's Iran Regime, I would lovely se Shah's back but with no western influences, trying to restore a little bit of prestige and order in the region, and being of course against the Ottomans wich are just subhumans violenting and oppressing Europa and the rest of the Middle-Eastern.

Bdw, you talk about aspiration and freedom, there's no freedom yet in any arabian country today so.

Yes, the British empire was the worst thing to have happened in the Middle East and how they created and played with the borders of the region. For example our islands were under the British, but they gave to Iran as gifts and they never considered or had the consent of the native Arab population. After this we found ourselves with Iran where our culture was being heavily Westernized and yet at the same time Persianized. Today's Iran regime is not really good to us since they but they have given us sometime to breath and re-explore our native culture which was hampered upon for nearly 10 years. Yes they should someone who is loyal. Initially the Ottomans were good but in their decline is when they became oppressive at least toward their Arab subjects, but they were 1000 times preferable to the British who were truly oppressive toward us on every level.

True, but having independence would be good because we can have our culture and linguistic rights respected.

Prisoner Of Ice
04-30-2014, 04:51 PM
I never saw a Turk with Weddoid features (except if he has Indian ancestry)

The famous "look out my window" anthropologist. Here is why non euros have no point to be on this site, they are delusional and have no idea about history or anthropology.

You don't see them for the same reason you almost never see blond or redhead. They've all been raped and killed into oblivion.

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 04:51 PM
Same reason you almost never see blond or redhead. They've all been raped and killed into oblivion.

My uncle is blond :picard1:

Xanthias
04-30-2014, 04:57 PM
LOL which Ottomans are you talking about?
I look at a map and dont see a state named Ottoman or do you still live in the 20th century?

don't you see your own state on the map, bitch ?

Of course I was referring to Turkey (or Asia Minor for me, once they get chased out), bdw don't much of Turks today aspire (as for its President who talks a lot about) for a new Ottoman Empire ? (I heard a lot about that in the turkish media)

Prisoner Of Ice
04-30-2014, 04:58 PM
At any rate it's highly interesting that weddoid types survived until pretty modern times (and in fact I do see their influence in some middleeastoids I have met). I think this gives a good support for Out of India style migrations for spread of haplogroups. When you put india as epicenter suddenly all the crazy migration results make sense.

Kiyant
04-30-2014, 05:00 PM
don't you see your own state on the map, bitch ?

Of course I was referring to Turkey (or Asia Minor for me, once they get chased out), bdw don't much of Turks today aspire (as for its President who talks a lot about) for a new Ottoman Empire ? (I heard a lot about that in the turkish media)

Im not Anatolian Turkish you genius but i was just making fun of you also try to chase Turks of Asia minor you internet warrior

Rojava
04-30-2014, 06:41 PM
Stupid borders, stupid laws & stupid people.

Chichic
04-30-2014, 06:50 PM
Iranians are more like Turks

EyeOfTheTiger
04-30-2014, 10:29 PM
my anwers was to the Flander frog hunter. any way, persians was our slaves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty

lol. shah ismail and the royal safavids were genetically iranians, they also were highly persianized in all aspects.

DeaththeKid
04-30-2014, 10:34 PM
Perhaps the question should be are Iranians closer to Turks or Pakistanis

gültekin
04-30-2014, 10:54 PM
lol. shah ismail and the royal safavids were genetically iranians, they also were highly persianized in all aspects.
your ignorant and silly opinion. Shah İsmail and safavid dynasty talking and writing pure Turkish

EyeOfTheTiger
04-30-2014, 10:57 PM
your ignorant and silly opinion. Shah İsmail and safavid dynasty talking and writing pure Turkish

http://i.imgur.com/HKjZQBZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/72PKKM9.png

gültekin
04-30-2014, 11:04 PM
that's not stringing enough to name him as persian. mother line does not matter by Turkish kultur, and is important, as what he introduces himself and named.

EyeOfTheTiger
04-30-2014, 11:09 PM
that's not stringing enough to name him as persian. mother line does not matter by Turkish kultur, and is important, as what he introduces himself and named.

ok then, persian was the offical language of the safavid empire, and the dominant culture.

gültekin
04-30-2014, 11:12 PM
ok then, persian was the offical language of the safavid empire, and the dominant culture.
http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/26/1839/19375.pdf turkish letters of safavids. u can translated, if u want. Safavids speaking Turkish at the palace. that is a historical fact

EyeOfTheTiger
04-30-2014, 11:15 PM
http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/26/1839/19375.pdf turkish letters of safavids. u can translated, if u want. Safavids speaking Turkish at the palace. that is a historical fact

http://i.imgur.com/To68gV5.png azerbaijani turkish was spoken as a court language until isfahan became a capital. i agree on this.

random
05-01-2014, 02:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/To68gV5.png azerbaijani turkish was spoken as a court language until isfahan became a capital. i agree on this.

Don't trust wikipedia.

archangel
05-04-2014, 06:40 PM
indians

Sky earth
05-04-2014, 06:45 PM
Iranians are overall phenotypically and genetically closer to Turks.

Danishmend
05-04-2014, 06:47 PM
Iranians are overall phenotypically and genetically closer to Turks.

Yeah, i agree

archangel
05-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Yeah, i agree

sanmam iranlilar çingen gibiler,,iranians look kinda like gypsies and romas imho

Sky earth
05-04-2014, 07:04 PM
sanmam iranlilar çingen gibiler,,iranians look kinda like gypsies and romas imho

I don't think so. Most Persians look like other West Asians like Armenians, Iraqis, Kurds, Iranian Azeris...

Alphawolf
05-04-2014, 07:07 PM
Iranians are overall phenotypically and genetically closer to Turks.

Never ever.

Sky earth
05-04-2014, 07:24 PM
Of course. I know some Persians and they look closer to Turks than to Indians. aDNA and genetics also say the same thing

Barbarian
05-04-2014, 08:49 PM
sanmam iranlilar çingen gibiler,,iranians look kinda like gypsies and romas imho

Katiliyorum, iranlilar bize benzemezler, Iranians do not look like us Barbarionoids from the steppes iimo. Iranian look more like Armenians and Kurds.

Ice
05-13-2014, 12:12 AM
Acemler bize pek benzemez ama ordaki turkler burdaki turklere benziyor.

Tooting Carmen
05-13-2014, 12:14 AM
Closer to Turks by a ratio of probably two to one.

gültekin
05-13-2014, 12:14 AM
iranians are gypsies, like the other indo-europeans. they are all frome northern-india

EyeOfTheTiger
05-15-2014, 02:41 PM
iranians are gypsies, like the other indo-europeans. they are all frome northern-india

wtf?

Alphawolf
05-15-2014, 03:39 PM
Iranians do look like Indians(-Pakistanis, Afghanis) and talk like them. Only the Turks from Iran don't have this southeast Asian look. Interestingly, the light Iranians living in the Turkish settlement areas in the north of the country.

EyeOfTheTiger
05-15-2014, 04:08 PM
Iranians do look like Indians(-Pakistanis, Afghanis) and talk like them. Only the Turks from Iran don't have this southeast Asian look. Interestingly, the light Iranians living in the Turkish settlement areas in the north of the country.
since when afghanis are indians? and most pakis aren't.
indian component among iranians is up to 4%.
iranians don't look south asian, they could be slightly influenced(balochis, who live in eastern iran-balochestan).

Rojava
05-15-2014, 04:20 PM
iranians are gypsies, like the other indo-europeans. they are all frome northern-india

You are so delusional.

Amir
05-29-2014, 09:18 AM
I am Persian and I certainly don't look South Asian, Arab, or like a Turk. I am white, I have brown hair and green brown eyes.

PlanA
05-29-2014, 09:25 AM
Some Iranians look either completely South Asian or South Asian influenced, while others look rather Kurdish and some look like as if they are from the Caucasus region and again while others could pass for a Turk, because about 20% of Iranians are of Azerbaijani Turk origin, aka Southern Azerbaijanis.

Mortimer
05-29-2014, 09:50 AM
i think eastern iran is populated by northindian like people who even speak a dravidian language, and western iran is closer to turks

Mortimer
05-29-2014, 09:54 AM
also on omegle i saw a guy with beard and he said he is iranian, i guessed him as northindian sikh
i think some iranians do have a brown southasian like look, but most are closer to turks
http://s28.postimg.org/gz0dcaz0t/Omegle_screenshot_26638_jpg.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
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random
05-29-2014, 09:56 AM
They don't look Indian or European.

Mortimer
05-29-2014, 09:58 AM
in my school there was a iranian girl, she was very dark, gypsy dark brown like my mum and she said persians are aryans and such stuff, could have been pakistani as well. also she had a big black mole in her face etc. quiete unattractive. but my mum had a coworker a persian with polish wife and my mum said he had brown hair and fair skin. only two iranians i heard of here

random
05-29-2014, 10:01 AM
in my school there was a iranian girl, she was very dark, gypsy dark brown like my mum and she said persians are aryans and such stuff, could have been pakistani as well. also she had a big black mole in her face etc. quiete unattractive. but my mum had a coworker a persian with polish wife and my mum said he had brown hair and fair skin. only two iranians i heard of here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxe04wGmTw

Mortimer
05-29-2014, 10:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxe04wGmTw

im telling you the truth dude, that was in high school

Alphawolf
05-29-2014, 05:53 PM
Iranians are culturally and racially closer to Indians.

StonyArabia
05-29-2014, 06:09 PM
I don't think so. Most Persians look like other West Asians like Armenians, Iraqis, Kurds, Iranian Azeris...

They don't look Iraqis if they do they are Ahwazi or Arab islanders both of which are not Iranian in the slightest sense. Iraqis, Ahwazis , and Arab islanders don't like to be associated with Iranic peoples who continue to oppress and Persianize them, in regards to the latter please keep us out of this.

PlanA
05-29-2014, 06:11 PM
Iranians are culturally and racially closer to Indians.

The ones of Azerbaijani Turk origins are different, they are our brothers. Of course they are closer to us. Don't forget about 20-25% of Iranian population is Azerbaijani Turks, these people are different than the rest of Iranians on average.

gültekin
05-29-2014, 06:16 PM
The ones of Azerbaijani Turk origins are different, they are our brothers. Of course they are closer to us. Don't forget about 20-25% of Iranian population is Azerbaijani Turks, these people are different than the rest of Iranians on average.
thre is not only Azeris in iran, there are also other Turkish tribes, like Qashgais i guess iran have %35-40 Turkish population

Alphawolf
05-29-2014, 06:18 PM
The ones of Azerbaijani Turk origins are different, they are our brothers. Of course they are closer to us. Don't forget about 20-25% of Iranian population is Azerbaijani Turks, these people are different than the rest of Iranians on average.

As i said before "Iranians" are culturally and racially closer to Indians. The Turks in Iran is another story.

PlanA
05-29-2014, 06:20 PM
As i said before "Iranians" are culturally and racially closer to Indians. The Turks in Iran is another story.

I believe Azerbaijani Turks are also counted as Iranians, since if I am not mistaken, Iranians is an umbrella word for any ethnicity living in Iran, just like being British but of English origin or British but of Welsh origin etc.

StonyArabia
05-29-2014, 06:22 PM
The ones of Azerbaijani Turk origins are different, they are our brothers. Of course they are closer to us. Don't forget about 20-25% of Iranian population is Azerbaijani Turks, these people are different than the rest of Iranians on average.

Then you guys should help them join Turkey. I want Ahwaz and the Arab islands back to Arabia. The Arabs in Iran continue to yell for independence but many Azeris seem integrated and even have a Persian mindset and culture.

Alphawolf
05-29-2014, 06:24 PM
Then you guys should help them join Turkey. I want Ahwaz and the Arab islands back to Arabia. The Arabs in Iran continue to yell for independence but many Azeris seem integrated and even have a Persian mindset and culture.

I guess the Bandaris are Arabic too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_iiHVN7x5k

Alphawolf
05-29-2014, 06:26 PM
I believe Azerbaijani Turks are also counted as Iranians, since if I am not mistaken, Iranians is an umbrella word for any ethnicity living in Iran, just like being British but of English origin or British but of Welsh origin etc.
The word can be understood differently depending on personal interpretation. I meant the Iranic people of the Republic of Iran.

The Iranian peoples (also known as Iranic peoples) are a diverse Indo-European ethno-linguistic group that comprise the speakers of Iranian languages. Their historical areas of settlement were on the Iranian plateau (mainly Iran, Azerbaijan and Western Afghanistan) and certain neighbouring areas of Asia (such as parts of the Caucasus, Eastern Turkey, Northeast Syria, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Bahrain, Oman, northern Iraq, Northwestern and Western Pakistan) reflecting changing geopolitical range of the Iranian dynasties and the Iranian history. Their current distribution spreads across the Iranian plateau, and stretches from the Caucasus in the north to the Persian Gulf in the south, and from the Indus River in the east to eastern Turkey in the west – a region that is sometimes called the "Iranian cultural continent", or Greater Iran by some scholars, and represents the extent of the Iranian languages and significant influence of the Iranian peoples, through the geopolitical reach of the Iranian empire.

StonyArabia
05-29-2014, 06:27 PM
I guess the Bandaris are Arabic too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_iiHVN7x5k

No they are Afro Persians/Baloch

gültekin
05-29-2014, 06:28 PM
Then you guys should help them join Turkey. I want Ahwaz and the Arab islands back to Arabia. The Arabs in Iran continue to yell for independence but many Azeris seem integrated and even have a Persian mindset and culture.
Why? why should we help to betrayer Saudis? we can take the islands for us lol
http://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lawrence-of-arabia.jpg

Ice
05-29-2014, 06:31 PM
The word can be understood differently depending on personal interpretation. I meant the Iranic People of the Republic of Iran.

We, Turks gave the word Iran(Eraan) the meaning of today. It was persia before we arrived and ruled Iran for like a milennia.

The so-called azeris are oghuz turks. There are also turkmens in iran. If you really want to point out difference between our kin and the rest, then call the rest persians.

StonyArabia
05-29-2014, 06:35 PM
Why? why should we help to betrayer Saudis? we can take the islands for us lol
http://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lawrence-of-arabia.jpg

dude I said you should help your Azeri brothers not Arabs. The Azeris seem not to have sepratist mindset you should encourage them to do so.

Alphawolf
05-29-2014, 06:36 PM
We, Turks gave the word Iran(Eraan) the meaning of today. It was persia before we arrived and ruled Iran for like a milennia.

The so-called azeris are oghuz turks. There are also turkmens in iran. If you really want to point out difference between our kin and the rest, then call the rest persians.

The name Iran is the historical name of the country, used by its native people.

Ice
05-29-2014, 06:46 PM
Ilber ortayli biraz fazla iran yanlisi ama bu yazisi iran hakkinda onemli bilgiler iceriyor

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/Yazar.aspx?aType=YazarDetay&KategoriID=26&ArticleID=1071075

DerekMorlock
05-29-2014, 06:53 PM
iranians are middle eastern and east med.

EyeOfTheTiger
05-29-2014, 08:21 PM
We, Turks gave the word Iran(Eraan) the meaning of today. It was persia before we arrived and ruled Iran for like a milennia.

The so-called azeris are oghuz turks. There are also turkmens in iran. If you really want to point out difference between our kin and the rest, then call the rest persians.
lol no you didn't give the word Iran. and it was Iran before, since sassanid empire.
most turkic rulers of iran were highly persianized, genetically talking, linguistically and culturally.

Azalea
05-29-2014, 08:24 PM
Most Iranians live in West and South Iran, and from the genetic results we've seen so far from those Iranians, they are by far much closer to Turks than they are to Indians or even Afghans.

N1019
01-15-2015, 11:25 PM
Eugenics...... I thought we had outgrown that pseudoscientific nonsense. Obviously not, which is why the world is so effed up.

There is more to identity than haplogroups and whether your appearance matches what a stereotypical [insert denonym here] is said to look like.

Arch Hades
01-15-2015, 11:28 PM
Of course we are closer to Turks, is that even a question? We are neighbors lol.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png

Iranians are a southern extension of Caucasus peoples. We are closer to West Asian peoples like Turks, Abkhazians, Kurds, Georgians etc.


Are you still mad about my theory of Greeks being a part of transitional forms between Caucasoid and Negroid? :cool:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/yj5q2yc7.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Your pure caucasoid would deviate towards mongoloids more than Greeks. So he's not a pure caucasoid.

Alessio
01-16-2015, 01:21 AM
Depends on the region of Iran.

On average..

Alessio
01-16-2015, 01:31 AM
u cant good talking with ur ass, u need much more training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEo0BZk_raI


This is crazy !

John Smith
01-16-2015, 01:34 AM
Stupid question. Turks, obviously.

N1019
01-16-2015, 08:37 AM
As if anyone has visited iran to know what they really look like.

I have visited Iran and no-one picked me as a foreigner; everyone spoke to me in Persian and got a shock when they heard my native English intonation... in my mind, it only adds weight to the notion that this superficial pseudoscience is a load of bullshit... I am 0% Iranian, Middle Eastern, Central Asian etc...

Böri
01-16-2015, 08:53 AM
They are between, more close with Turks. Persians are like Kurdish with some more Indians. They are also similar with Iraqis. People dont like Iranian tourists here as they behave uncivilized. They also bother girls and women lots. There is many tourists here.

zarzian
01-21-2015, 05:27 AM
They don't look Iraqis if they do they are Ahwazi or Arab islanders both of which are not Iranian in the slightest sense. Iraqis, Ahwazis , and Arab islanders don't like to be associated with Iranic peoples who continue to oppress and Persianize them, in regards to the latter please keep us out of this.

Nabatea1, I think your a nice guy and all, but you are so full of shit sometimes its not even funny, tell me, with all due respect, do you belong in the same mental asylum as butlerking?. Now going back to your delusional post/s in this thread, you are dead wrong about Khuzestani Iranians, as in this study http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/07/huge-study-on-y-chromosome-variation-in.html you can clearly see that khuzestanis don't have any affinity to any Arab country, they cluster with other Iranians. Don't talk like Arabs own Khuzestan, it's been an Elamite territory since the dawn of civilization, and Elamites have completely been absorbed into Iranian blood. Most Khuzestanis speak Farsi, and some speak an Arabic-Farsi creole. And What about the hunderds of thousands of native Persian Kuwaities or Native Persian Bahrainis, or native Persians in Doubai and in Oman? Do you see Persians proclaiming that these groups have nothing to do with their respective countries? The answer is no, because they've been assimilated and vise versa for any Arabs that moved to Khuzestan, you would figure one should expect some flow from both sides through out the long history of the region.

Back to the OP, Iranians aren't close to neither turks nor Indians, it just happens that many turks overlap with Iranians because they were turkified Persians. As turkey is a nation of assimilated Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Persians and the various ethnicity's of Anatolia. That is why Turks come in so many different Phenotypes, they are different sub-races that only share a common language with each other.

I would rather be closer to Indians though, as they have such an old history and have contributed so much to mankind, unlike the turks which have only contributed bloodshed and savagery. Long after the civilized world put military aggression behind them and pursued the Sciences and arts, while putting military resources into defense, these Savages were still shooting arrows on horseback in Central Asia and were more mobile as they had no great cities to call their own. That is the only reason they had any success on the battlefield.

Highlands
01-21-2015, 05:39 AM
Closer to Turks genetically. (if that's what you mean).

Kamal900
01-21-2015, 07:26 AM
As if anyone has visited iran to know what they really look like.

I dont need to because we have here around 500 or 600 thousand persians here in this country, and half of my college are iranians as well. To me, they look neither of them, and they seem to have their own look although some of them can look either Turkish or Indian.

Kamal900
01-21-2015, 07:33 AM
Nabatea1, I think your a nice guy and all, but you are so full of shit sometimes its not even funny, tell me, with all due respect, do you belong in the same mental asylum as butlerking?. Now going back to your delusional post/s in this thread, you are dead wrong about Khuzestani Iranians, as in this study http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/07/huge-study-on-y-chromosome-variation-in.html you can clearly see that khuzestanis don't have any affinity to any Arab country, they cluster with other Iranians. Don't talk like Arabs own Khuzestan, it's been an Elamite territory since the dawn of civilization, and Elamites have completely been absorbed into Iranian blood. Most Khuzestanis speak Farsi, and some speak an Arabic-Farsi creole. And What about the hunderds of thousands of native Persian Kuwaities or Native Persian Bahrainis, or native Persians in Doubai and in Oman? Do you see Persians proclaiming that these groups have nothing to do with their respective countries? The answer is no, because they've been assimilated and vise versa for any Arabs that moved to Khuzestan, you would figure one should expect some flow from both sides through out the long history of the region.

Back to the OP, Iranians aren't close to neither turks nor Indians, it just happens that many turks overlap with Iranians because they were turkified Persians. As turkey is a nation of assimilated Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Persians and the various ethnicity's of Anatolia with a small mongoloid touch. That is why Turks come in so many different Phenotypes, they are different sub-races that only share a common language with each other.

I would rather be closer to Indians though, as they have such an old history and have contributed so much to mankind, unlike the turks which have only contributed bloodshed and savagery. Long after the civilized world put military aggression behind them and pursued the Sciences and arts, while putting military resources into defense, these Savages were still shooting arrows on horseback in Central Asia and were more mobile as they had no great cities to call their own. That is the only reason they had any success on the battlefield.

I know that half of Khuzestan are of Luri origins which they are a persian ethnic group and the other half are made up by Arabs. Im not exactly sure what the situation there but i do know one iranian arab claiming that he sees himself more as part of Iran than other arab countries which is why many Iranian arabs fought alongside with the persians against Saddam during the iran-iraq war to prove it. Iran does have its own share of discrimination and etc but it can never be compared to the racism in Turkey or Israel which are far more racist than Iran in its treatment towards its minority groups which both nations claim that they are secular and democratic.

zarzian
01-21-2015, 08:09 AM
I know that half of Khuzestan are of Luri origins which they are a persian ethnic group and the other half are made up by Arabs. Im not exactly sure what the situation there but i do know one iranian arab claiming that he sees himself more as part of Iran than other arab countries which is why many Iranian arabs fought alongside with the persians against Saddam during the iran-iraq war to prove it. Iran does have its own share of discrimination and etc but it can never be compared to the racism in Turkey or Israel which are far more racist than Iran in its treatment towards its minority groups which both nations claim that they are secular and democratic.

You are 100% correct, other then minor comedic stereotypes there is very little racism in Iran between the different ethnicities. Unfortunately there is allot of racism towards Afghani refugees though.

randomguy1235
01-21-2015, 08:06 PM
I have visited Iran and no-one picked me as a foreigner; everyone spoke to me in Persian and got a shock when they heard my native English intonation... in my mind, it only adds weight to the notion that this superficial pseudoscience is a load of bullshit... I am 0% Iranian, Middle Eastern, Central Asian etc...

Dude, you're an Iranian poster from ABF. I've seen your name before.