Are Southern Europeans inferior because of Arabolevantonorthafrican genetic input?

[Insuperable]

Seems to be the case.

[Peyrol]

I don't know, but the good part of the croatian DNA is definitely due to the venetian influence.

[Sikeliot]

I don't know, but the good part of the croatian DNA is definitely due to the venetian influence.

Croats are just Slavicized Venetians.

[Peyrol]

Croats are just Slavicized Venetians.

Dalmatians and istrians, of course.
Even if they like to deny this fact because Tito's propaganda portrayed us as evoly eater-of-childrens.

Even the user Ratko who lived in Veneto noticed this.


(-btw my reply to Solin was a joke-)

[armenianbodyhair]

These threads are getting boring. Don't be a one trick pony.

[Rudel]

Are Northern Europeans inferior because of Scandiefinnmongolian genetic input?
















(yes)

[Insuperable]

I don't know, but the good part of the croatian DNA is definitely due to the venetian influence.

You wrote it is a joke, but there is nothing wrong with having Venetian blood. Regarding Croats I am having various Balkanians on my mind like Vlachs with their Balkan-Middle Eastern blood and dumb shepard mind.


Dalmatians and istrians, of course.

No, since they still have strong Slavic input.


Even if they like to deny this fact because Tito's propaganda portrayed us as evoly eater-of-childrens.

Well you can't blame a Croat/Slovenian guy after Italians established their WW2 concentration camps for Croats and Slovenians.


Are Northern Europeans inferior because of Scandiefinnmongolian genetic input?

Not at all. Every Northern European like genetic input upgrades people. Observing Brits and Scots in particlar we can see that Celto-Germanic genetic input is a creme de la creme of upgrades especially when with non-existent extra European sources and this genetic makeup is predominant in all Germanics. Eastern European northern genetics is only slightly inferior to western European northern genetics, but extra European input in them doesn't subhumanize them because it doesn't come from the Middle East and North Africa. French are also lucky to have strong Celto-Germanic input with some extra pure Med type (early neolithic farmer), but with very little extra European input compared to southern Europeans making them a strong competitve to their neighbours to the West and to the North. For example Celto-Germanic input is very strong in Northern Italy and we all know what we get when we compare Northern and Southern Italy.

Greeks are an exception compared to Balkans, but their northern side is Celto-Germanic like.

[Rudel]

Not at all. Every Northern European like genetic input upgrades people. Observing Brits and Scots in particlar we can see that Celto-Germanic genetic input is a creme de la creme of upgrades especially when with non-existent extra European sources and this genetic makeup is predominant in all Germanics. Eastern European northern genetics is only slightly inferior to western European northern genetics, but extra European input in them doesn't subhumanize them because it doesn't come from the Middle East and North Africa. For example French are lucky to have strong Celto-Germanic input with some extra pure Med type (early neolithic farmer), but with very little extra European input compared to southern Europeans making them a strong competitve to their neighbours to the West and to the North. For example Celto-Germanic input is very strong in Northern Italy and we all know what we get when we compare Northern and Southern Italy.
This is retarded on so many levels.

[Peyrol]

You wrote it is a joke, but there is nothing wrong with having Venetian blood. Regarding Croats I am having various Balkanians on my mind like Vlachs with their Balkan-Middle Eastern blood and dumb shepard mind.



No, since they still have strong Slavic input.



Well you can't blame a Croat/Slovenian guy after Italians established their WW2 concentration camps for Croats and Slovenians.



Not at all. Every Northern European like genetic input upgrades people. Observing Brits and Scots in particlar we can see that Celto-Germanic genetic input is a creme de la creme of upgrades especially when with non-existent extra European sources and this genetic makeup is predominant in all Germanics. Eastern European northern genetics is only slightly inferior to western European northern genetics, but extra European input in them doesn't subhumanize them because it doesn't come from the Middle East and North Africa. French are also lucky to have strong Celto-Germanic input with some extra pure Med type (early neolithic farmer), but with very little extra European input compared to southern Europeans making them a strong competitve to their neighbours to the West and to the North. For example Celto-Germanic input is very strong in Northern Italy and we all know what we get when we compare Northern and Southern Italy.

Greeks are an exception compared to Balkans, but their northern side is Celto-Germanic like.

Even furlans and perhaps some venetians have a strong slavic imput (is estimated that 40% of furlan population has slavic origin, since the region was almost depopulated in X centuries and the bishop fo Aquileia called slovenes for farming). But this don't make them jugoslavs.

So, i'm not saying that istrians and dalmatians ''are romance people'' but that romance input is undeniable.

[Insuperable]

This is retarded on so many levels.

It is the truth.

[Alessio]

:bored:

[Insuperable]

:bored:

U mad?

[Alessio]

:confused: :loco: :speechless-smiley-0

The core of the thread is nonsense to the core..

U mad?

[Insuperable]

:confused: :loco: :speechless-smiley-0

The core of the thread is nonsense to the core..

Only for the ignorant and blind.

[Scipio Africanus]

zingaro

[Insuperable]

zingaro

No, you are not, don't be too hard on yourself.

[Scandalf]

Depends, I'd say yes if I think about how successful a North European country is. But using this type of logic they (South Europeans) would be superior to East Europeans...

[Sidi Atlas]

The thread title implies that historical influence from the Levant/North Africa is inferior but I think au contraire ...

North Africa: Ancient Egypt, Moors, Carthage, Great influence on Western Chrisitanity (Augustine, Tertullian, Cyprian ), etc.

Levant: origin of the alphabet, Phoenicians, birth place of Christ, center of the largest ever Islamic Empire (Ummayads in Damascus), etc.

[Peyrol]

The thread title implies that historical influence from the Levant/North Africa is inferior but I think au contraire ...

North Africa: Ancient Egypt, Moors, Carthage, Great influence on Western Chrisitanity (Augustine, Tertullian, Cyprian ), etc.

Levant: origin of the alphabet, Phoenicians, birth place of Christ, center of the largest ever Islamic Empire (Ummayads in Damascus), etc.

But the most influential post-Muhammad islamic state was the Almohad kingdom and they were maghrebi.

[Alessio]

That you even seriously replied to this thread..


The thread title implies that historical influence from the Levant/North Africa is inferior but I think au contraire ...

North Africa: Ancient Egypt, Moors, Carthage, Great influence on Western Chrisitanity (Augustine, Tertullian, Cyprian ), etc.

Levant: origin of the alphabet, Phoenicians, birth place of Christ, center of the largest ever Islamic Empire (Ummayads in Damascus), etc.

[Kalimtari]

let me think for a moment, where did the Western civilization begin?

oh, I found it:
http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/531334-39630-49.jpg
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/gobekli_tepe04_02.jpghttps://culturalandscape.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/natufian2.jpg
http://leavingbabylon.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/catal2.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i0OZm4F3rGM/UOCBAHwg-oI/AAAAAAAAYr8/_IhKI3A3zns/s1600/gilgamesh_louvre.jpg

yeah, they were just some primitive Ayrabs, nothing more than that :P

[Skerdilaid]

Sure why not, but we are proud though:tongue

[Xanthias]

Greeks are an exception compared to Balkans, but their northern side is Celto-Germanic like.

I don't understand, even with their northern celto-germanic like (which I don't believe is related in any case to Celts/germanics) why would they be an exception ?

[Hithaeglir]

lol

[rhiannon]

LOL.

Southern Europeans are not inferior. Why would you say this?

[Sidi Atlas]

That you even seriously replied to this thread..
Yes, I know. There is no such thing as "inferior people".

[Xanthias]

I also would like to add that the Southern Europeans are so inferior that mostly 99% of the Western Civilization comes from us.

[alb0zfinest]

Lol. There are like 15 threads of this sort. Before you know it you will run out of titles :p

[Alessio]

You can always paste words together to make it look different ;)


Lol. There are like 15 threads of this sort. Before you know it you will run out of titles :p

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Not at all. Every Northern European like genetic input upgrades people. Observing Brits and Scots in particlar we can see that Celto-Germanic genetic input is a creme de la creme of upgrades especially when with non-existent extra European sources and this genetic makeup is predominant in all Germanics. Eastern European northern genetics is only slightly inferior to western European northern genetics, but extra European input in them doesn't subhumanize them because it doesn't come from the Middle East and North Africa. French are also lucky to have strong Celto-Germanic input with some extra pure Med type (early neolithic farmer), but with very little extra European input compared to southern Europeans making them a strong competitve to their neighbours to the West and to the North. For example Celto-Germanic input is very strong in Northern Italy and we all know what we get when we compare Northern and Southern Italy.

Greeks are an exception compared to Balkans, but their northern side is Celto-Germanic like.

Non sense.

Eastern Europeans are the most modern Europeans by phenotype.

Eastern Europeans are more brachycephalic, tall skulled & neotenic than Western Europeans.

Humans are more brachycephlic, tall skulled & neotenic than Apes.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

let me think for a moment, where did the Western civilization begin?

oh, I found it:
http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/531334-39630-49.jpg
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/gobekli_tepe04_02.jpghttps://culturalandscape.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/natufian2.jpg
http://leavingbabylon.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/catal2.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i0OZm4F3rGM/UOCBAHwg-oI/AAAAAAAAYr8/_IhKI3A3zns/s1600/gilgamesh_louvre.jpg

yeah, they were just some primitive Ayrabs, nothing more than that :P

Civilization might have begun in Eastern Europe in the Vinca culture or the Cucuteni–Trypillia culture.

[Dombra]

Southerners are inferior because they are adapted to slack in warm weather. Admixture makes it even worse

[rhiannon]

^^
Now I will say Southern European weather is definitely inferior to Northern Europe's :tongue1:

[Smeagol]

let me think for a moment, where did the Western civilization begin?

oh, I found it:
http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/531334-39630-49.jpg

The ancient Fertile Crescent was not a part of Western Civilization.


https://culturalandscape.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/natufian2.jpg

The Natufian people did not have a civilization, they were only a pre-Neolithic people of Palestine. Anthropological studies have shown that Natufians during certain eras had some Negroid admixture, but were always Europid predominantly, and some were fully Europid. All Negroid elements disappeared in the region before the Neolithic. They probably traded with Europoid North Africans.

[Rudel]

^^
Now I will say Southern European weather is definitely inferior to Northern Europe's :tongue1:
That's why Finland's so fertile.

[Also]

We are all inferior to what we can be. :)

[Kalimtari]

Civilization might have begun in Eastern Europe in the Vinca culture or the Cucuteni–Trypillia culture.

Gobekli Tepe sight is definitely older

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/gobekli_tepe04_02.jpg

[Kalimtari]

The ancient Fertile Crescent was not a part of Western Civilization.

of course not, history books lie

The Natufian people did not have a civilization, they were only a pre-Neolithic people of Palestine. Anthropological studies have shown that Natufians during certain eras had some Negroid admixture, but were always Europid predominantly, and some were fully Europid. All Negroid elements disappeared in the region before the Neolithic. They probably traded with Europoid North Africans.

I specifically wrote the BEGINING of civilization + being a racist doesn't make you a better scientist, science facts handler

[Insuperable]

Depends, I'd say yes if I think about how successful a North European country is. But using this type of logic they (South Europeans) would be superior to East Europeans...

Eastern Europeans on average have bad economy. Sure, to build rich economy you need to smart, but lets make an exception and neglect economy here since mentally Eastern Europeans are superior than Southern Europeans with the exception of Northern Italians who belong more to Central rather than Southern Europe.


The thread title implies that historical influence from the Levant/North Africa is inferior but I think au contraire ...

North Africa: Ancient Egypt, Moors, Carthage, Great influence on Western Chrisitanity (Augustine, Tertullian, Cyprian ), etc.

Levant: origin of the alphabet, Phoenicians, birth place of Christ, center of the largest ever Islamic Empire (Ummayads in Damascus), etc.

I am not implying anything I am telling you and I am having more genetic influence on mind. For northern Europeans taht influence can only seen as downgrade.


Non sense.

Eastern Europeans are the most modern Europeans by phenotype.

Eastern Europeans are more brachycephalic, tall skulled & neotenic than Western Europeans.

Humans are more brachycephlic, tall skulled & neotenic than Apes.

Blah blah blah

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Eastern Europeans on average have bad economy. Sure, to build rich economy you need to smart, but lets make an exception and neglect economy here since mentally Eastern Europeans are superior than Southern Europeans with the exception of Northern Italians who belong more to Central rather than Southern Europe.



I am not implying anything I am telling you and I am having more genetic influence on mind. For northern Europeans taht influence can only seen as downgrade.



Blah blah blah

Eastern Europe is home to the fastest growing economies in Europe such as Poland & Russia while Southern Europe is home to the fastest declining economies in Europe such as Greece & Spain.

[Peyrol]

Eastern Europe is home to the fastest growing economies in Europe such as Poland & Russia while Southern Europe is home to the fastest declining economies in Europe such as Greece & Spain.

Not at all...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Gdp_real_growth_rate_2007_CIA_Factbook.PNG

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Not at all...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Gdp_real_growth_rate_2007_CIA_Factbook.PNG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/GDP_growth_2008.png

http://www.targetmap.com/ThumbnailsReports/3830_THUMB_IPAD.jpg

[Peyrol]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/GDP_growth_2008.png

http://www.targetmap.com/ThumbnailsReports/3830_THUMB_IPAD.jpg



Maybe you will understand better with the PPP, since nominal GDP mean nothing (unless you consider the average Chinese and Indian '''rich person'' )


http://www.intelligenzasocial.com/media/2013/11/competitivit%C3%A0-convergenza-2014-2020.png

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Maybe you will understand better with the PPP, since nominal GDP mean nothing (unless you consider the average Chinese and Indian '''rich person'' )


http://www.intelligenzasocial.com/media/2013/11/competitivit%C3%A0-convergenza-2014-2020.png

Eastern Europe's per capita income is behind because of it facing the brunt of 2 world wars & communism which all crippled the economy of Eastern Europe.

What about Southern Europe who lacked war & didn't have communism why are their economies flopping so much recently!?

[Peyrol]

Eastern Europe's per capita income is behind because of it facing the brunt of 2 world wars & communism which all crippled the economy of Eastern Europe.

What about Southern Europe who lacked war & didn't have communism why are their economies flopping so much recently!?

What is ''southern Europe''?

My region is one of the richest of the whole EU, i don't mind about the rest.

And for the collapse of Greece, ask to the EU masters (Schultz, Barroso, Zapatero, Merkel) not to me.

And a polish who look down to us (northern Italy) is simply ridiculous since there are more than 100,000 poles only in Lombardy.

[Peikko]

Maybe you will understand better with the PPP, since nominal GDP mean nothing (unless you consider the average Chinese and Indian '''rich person'' )

He wasn't talking about GDP per capita, he was talking about economic growth (a.k.a. increase in GDP). Besides, 2008 was a long time ago anyway.

[Peikko]

I voted for yes, just to piss off Spaniards.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

What is ''southern Europe''?

My region is one of the richest of the whole EU, i don't mind about the rest.

And for the collapse of Greece, ask to the EU masters (Schultz, Barroso, Zapatero, Merkel) not to me.

And a polish who look down to us (northern Italy) is simply ridiculous since there are more than 100,000 poles only in Lombardy.

I thought that there were about 100,000 Poles in all of Italy rather than just in Lombardy!?

[Peyrol]

I thought that there were about 100,000 Poles in all of Italy rather than just in Lombardy!?

100,000? maybe 4-5 years ago...now they're something as 150,000 or even more...and about 50% of the whole eastern european immigration here in north Italy is divided between Lombardy and Piemont (here).

[Peyrol]

He wasn't talking about GDP per capita, he was talking about economic growth (a.k.a. increase in GDP). Besides, 2008 was a long time ago anyway.

So, cities like Milan, Marseille or Lyon now are like Kinshasa or Caracas while Kiev and Minsk are now like London or Kobnhaven?

[Peikko]

So, cities like Milan, Marseille or Lyon now are like Kinshasa or Caracas while Kiev and Minsk are now like London or Kobnhaven?
No, but economic growth in cities like Milan, Marseille or Lyon is probably way slower than Economic growth in Eastern Europe. We should probably exclude Ukraine from the discussion, due to recent events.

[PowerControls]

100,000? maybe 4-5 years ago...now they're something as 150,000 or even more...and about 50% of the whole eastern european immigration here in north Italy is divided between Lombardy and Piemont (here).

There are 97,000 Poles in Italy (excluding tourists:-). I am wondering how many Italians will move to Poland within next 5-10 years;-)


http://youtu.be/vqUzpJLWuPI

[Peyrol]

There are 97,000 Poles in Italy (excluding tourists:-). I am wondering how many Italians will move to Poland within next 5-10 years;-)


http://youtu.be/vqUzpJLWuPI

Keep on dreaming and fapping about how pale and blonde you are, and so superior xD

Luckily the real life is very different than the social disabled people of the antrhoboards xD

btw about real number of poles here

http://www.comuni-italiani.it/index.html


about north italian economy xD


Northern Italy is the most developed and productive area of the country, with one of the highest GDP's per capita in Europe. It was the first part of Italy to industrialise in the last half of the 19th century, the so-called industrial triangle formed by the manufacturing centres of Milan and Turin, as well as the seaport of Genoa. Since then, the industrial core of the area has shifted eastward; the current industrial triangle consists of Lombardy, Veneto, and Emilia-Romagna. A similar shift happened for GDP per capita, and the eastern regions (including Lombardy) have since become wealthier than Piedmont and Liguria. With a 2012 nominal GDP estimated at €772,676 million

^
sure many of us will move to Patatalandia soon xD

For the moment, your men are those who built our houses and our streets and you women those which battono il marciapiede.

But yea, the -supposed- polish racial superiority will change this as a divine vendetta to the racial impure piemonteises xD



I haven't absolutely nothing against poles or Poland, but when an eastern euro start to bias me for ''economy'' (lol, said by someone from the second world) or a supposed ''racial superiority''....oh please, don't be ridiculous xD
Nazi poles...lol...xD

[Scandalf]

Eastern Europe's per capita income is behind because of it facing the brunt of 2 world wars & communism which all crippled the economy of Eastern Europe.

What about Southern Europe who lacked war & didn't have communism why are their economies flopping so much recently!?

It's always someone else's fault... Study History dude! Even if Spain skipped the World Wars, it still had a crippling civil war!

[zhaoyun]

Nice way to frame a question. Inferiority is ensured no matter how we choose.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Being in europe doesn't make them european.

[Scandalf]

I thought that there were about 100,000 Poles in all of Italy rather than just in Lombardy!?

There's alot of Poles in Sicily too. But you're right on growth (compared to Sicily no doubt), still there's a difference between growth and living standards. Otherwise you'd have to explain immigration!

[cally]

From a nordicist point of view maybe but taking the whole world into consideration, we're pretty uber! :P

[JoeyGee8688]

A better question may be: are Southern Europeans who have significant Arablevantonorthafrican-genetic-input actually Southern Europeans, or simply mixed Arablevantonorthafricans?

[PowerControls]

Keep on dreaming and fapping about how pale and blonde you are, and so superior xD

Luckily the real life is very different than the social disabled people of the antrhoboards xD

btw about real number of poles here

http://www.comuni-italiani.it/index.html


about north italian economy xD



^
sure many of us will move to Patatalandia soon xD

For the moment, your men are those who built our houses and our streets and you women those which battono il marciapiede.

But yea, the -supposed- polish racial superiority will change this as a divine vendetta to the racial impure piemonteises xD



I haven't absolutely nothing against poles or Poland, but when an eastern euro start to bias me for ''economy'' (lol, said by someone from the second world) or a supposed ''racial superiority''....oh please, don't be ridiculous xD
Nazi poles...lol...xD

I got no any wet dreams about "superiority of pale blondes". Actually, I find this thread rather stupid. Even if there is any "arabolevantonorthafrican genetic input" in Italians and other Southern Europeans it doesn't settle anything - they are not inferior in any case (Arabs aren't inferior either). I was just referring to the numbers about Poles in Italy you gave. Polish Central Statistical Office says it's 97,000 and got no reason to do not trust it.

I don't really need any readings on Italian economy. Italy is one of the most developed countries in the world and significantly wealthier than most of Eastern Europe (yet;-). There is nothing wrong with building houses and roads - it's a decent job like any other. Not every Italian works as an architect, designer, engineer, programmer etc. There are many who do some simpler jobs like these you mentioned. The same applies to Poles and exactly these "unskilled" workers are these who emigrate just because better wages in Italy, Spain or UK. Engineers or coders don't need to move anywhere:).

As for Italy, yes, as a matter of fact Italy is recently going through a difficult period in terms of economy but its GDP is bigger than Russian. Isn't Russia considered as a global power which can eat Western Europe (not to mention USA) for breakfast? It's a different story but either Italy isn't so weak or Russia isn't so strong;-) Anyway, someone here is lacking a sense of proportion. Poland is doing well but needs at least 10 years to catch up with Italy (assuming the current pace of development will be maintained).

Again, there are idiots among Italians and the same applies to Poles (and all other nations), so (just a little piece of advice) ignore these talking nonsense about how Poland, Italy, Albania, UK, Germany, Russia etc. is great, racially superior, unsullied etc. Want me to send you some user names?;-)

PS. I got nothing against Italians which are btw. most popular nation in Poland before Czechs and Spaniards.

[armenianbodyhair]

A better question may be: are Southern Europeans who have significant Arablevantonorthafrican-genetic-input actually Southern Europeans, or simply mixed Arablevantonorthafricans?

They are Southern Europeans with significant arablevantonorthafrican-genetic-input.

[Insuperable]

A better question may be: are Southern Europeans who have significant Arablevantonorthafrican-genetic-input actually Southern Europeans, or simply mixed Arablevantonorthafricans?

Whatever it is it is the same crap in the end from a northern European point of view.

[Scandalf]

I got no any wet dreams about "superiority of pale blondes". Actually, I find this thread rather stupid. Even if there is any "arabolevantonorthafrican genetic input" in Italians and other Southern Europeans it doesn't settle anything - they are not inferior in any case (Arabs aren't inferior either). I was just referring to the numbers about Poles in Italy you gave. Polish Central Statistical Office says it's 97,000 and got no reason to do not trust it.

I don't really need any readings on Italian economy. Italy is one of the most developed countries in the world and significantly wealthier than most of Eastern Europe (yet;-). There is nothing wrong with building houses and roads - it's a decent job like any other. Not every Italian works as an architect, designer, engineer, programmer etc. There are many who do some simpler jobs like these you mentioned. The same applies to Poles and exactly these "unskilled" workers are these who emigrate just because better wages in Italy, Spain or UK. Engineers or coders don't need to move anywhere:).

As for Italy, yes, as a matter of fact Italy is recently going through a difficult period in terms of economy but its GDP is bigger than Russian. Isn't Russia considered as a global power which can eat Western Europe (not to mention USA) for breakfast? It's a different story but either Italy isn't so weak or Russia isn't so strong;-) Anyway, someone here is lacking a sense of proportion. Poland is doing well but needs at least 10 years to catch up with Italy (assuming the current pace of development will be maintained).

Again, there are idiots among Italians and the same applies to Poles (and all other nations), so (just a little piece of advice) ignore these talking nonsense about how Poland, Italy, Albania, UK, Germany, Russia etc. is great, racially superior, unsullied etc. Want me to send you some user names?;-)

PS. I got nothing against Italians which are btw. most popular nation in Poland before Czechs and Spaniards.

That's a fair reply. On the plus side for you guys, many Italian firms are moving to Poland.
Don't know if it'll ever achieve g7 status, but if this trend keeps going on (if Italy keeps being a hostage to It's own fucked up bureocracy) Poland will certainly develope fast.

[random]

Southern Europeans used to shave the heads of blonde germanic captive/slave women to make wigs. Fact.

[zhaoyun]

Northern Europe is superior to Southern Europe in certain fields of socio-economic development and industrialization. But it is hardly an indicator of Northern Europe's innate superiority. European/Western civilization started in Southern Europe during a period when Northern Europe was primarily composed of nomadic tribes and small agriculture. In fact, for most of history, Southern Europe has been far more advanced and developed culturally and technologically, with far higher degrees of urbanity. So while we can say that Northern Europe is certainly ahead today in certain very important fields and indicators of development, it's hardly correct to attribute this to some sort of ingrained superiority of Northern Europeans, in fact, the lead has only been quite recent (in the past 300 years).

[B01AB20]

I voted for yes, just to piss off Spaniards.
I'm on the edge of suicide, you gilipollas. :mad:

[Balmung]

Are Northern Europeans inferior because of Scandiefinnmongolian genetic input?
















(yes)

Im gonna say no, definately not.

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/12/128578/1916702-sweden.jpg
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/9381921783777635918068.png
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533563_10151224660599092_1584940735_n.jpg
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/25874727287143352415476.png


Infact we could use some of those inferior northern european mongolian genes over here in America right about now.

Slavs also welcome to contribute!



Northern Europe is superior to Southern Europe in certain fields of socio-economic development and industrialization. But it is hardly an indicator of Northern Europe's innate superiority. European/Western civilization started in Southern Europe during a period when Northern Europe was primarily composed of nomadic tribes and small agriculture. In fact, for most of history, Southern Europe has been far more advanced and developed culturally and technologically, with far higher degrees of urbanity. So while we can say that Northern Europe is certainly ahead today in certain very important fields and indicators of development, it's hardly correct to attribute this to some sort of ingrained superiority of Northern Europeans, in fact, the lead has only been quite recent (in the past 300 years).

America is on top now too.

Was it because America's superiority? No it was because it built itself as a nation of immigrants and entrepreneurs. Still does today. We're undefeated right now because of that very reason. Noone should be either impressed or surprised by America's achievements. Likewise they shouldn't be by any nation who at the time also had larger populations and a non homogeneous population exchanging cultural ideals amongst each other.

How can you call any people "superior" when all of them were different from each other at the time? Unless Italy is now a homogenous country having only one people be influential in its entire history.

Having to say a heterogeneous population was able to do more than a more homogeneous population who didn't even have 50k people living in it at the time just seems redundant. As late as the 1500s Sweden only had a population of 900k.

[zhaoyun]

America is on top now too.

Was it because America's superiority? No it was because it built itself as a nation of immigrants and entrepreneurs. Still does today. We're undefeated right now because of that very reason. Noone should be either impressed or surprised by America's achievements. Likewise they shouldn't be by any nation who at the time also had larger populations and a non homogeneous population exchanging cultural ideals amongst each other.

How can you call any people "superior" when all of them were different from each other at the time? Unless Italy is now a homogenous country having only one people be influential in its entire history.

Having to say a heterogeneous population was able to do more than a more homogeneous population who didn't even have 50k people living in it at the time just seems redundant. As late as the 1500s Sweden only had a population of 900k.

America is dominant today because it had a superior system and also a set of cultural values in place that helped it become a powerful country.

There has been homogenous countries in history who were very advanced, and also were very backward. Same for heterogenous societies. What really matters are the historical circumstances, the system and the culture in place at the time. 900K population for Sweden is irrelevant, Athens had a far smaller population when it created its civilization.

[Balmung]

America is dominant today because it had a superior system and also a set of cultural values in place that helped it become a powerful country.

There has been homogenous countries in history who were very advanced, and also were very backward. Same for heterogenous societies. What really matters are the historical circumstances, the system and the culture in place at the time. 900K population for Sweden is irrelevant, Athens had a far smaller population when it created its civilization.

That might hold true for the economic climate, but the reason it dominates all those fields simultaneously today is because of the people it brought over. We went from a colony of a bunch of farmers with little to no higher education to what we are now in a very short time. You backtrack to some of our most booming industries today and come to find out a large chunk were at the hands of immigrants. From the Nuke, to when we set off to Space. Many foreigners were present at the time. Hell what would our film or music industry be without the Jews we brought over in the 20th century. It would exist sure, be as huge as it is now? probably not. From the 20s on up they've been present in the vast majority of productions. Today around 50% of Silicon valley is made up of foreigners.

You forgot the part about its close proximity to the mid east, and its influence on its own civilization. Same with Rome who then went on to borrow heavily from Greece and every single civilization they conquered then on.

A homogeneous nation with little outside contact can compete with a nation absorbing everyone elses cultures? Not a chance in hell. No nation has an excuse for underperforming now however. All nations today have access to the same education and cultural enrichment. The excuse of homogenity, little outide contact, and a small populous is more viable than "Germany is keeping us down". Especially since these powers in antiquity were also "keeping people down.

This demonizing of tribalistic cultures also seems beyond ridiculous to me, because what are we now? Nations of people glorifying material things and celebrities. The Natives might have been "primitive" in the eyess of the self proclaimed higher socities but they weren't all suicidal drunks like they are now. Can you guess which group of people put them in such a position? was it the primitive or the high societies?

If there's truly something wrong with being tribal then why is it that every single great atrocity has been contributed by the "high societies". The primitive Slavs/Scandinavians didn't genocide and enslave thousands upon thousands throughout the globe.

There's some huge hypocrisy going on as well. The influence on Med countries from Asia is downplayed a lot. However when it comes to Northern European acomplishments and innovations its all "because of Rome". Despite the fact that Britain alone out invented all of them. Despite the fact much of its contributions had nothing to do with any Roman/Greek influence its "because of Rome".

I'd also like to ask how do we measure being primitive? because the bulk of ancient civilizations were also very primitive, and barbaric in comparison to the later power. Killing people in cold blood in the streets, high crime/murder rates, executing people with circumstantial evidence, eating rats, lying food right next to the toilets, walls that reek of piss, orgies, rubbing your dick on some young boys ass. Not exactly what I imagine high class being. Many of the self proclaimed higher class groups did things that no Anglo Saxon, Viking, or Ancient Slav ever did. I'm willing to bet excluding the Aztecs many "primitive" tribes existed in the Americas that weren't nearly as barbaric and destructive as Romans were. How can we really call a group of people high class based on what? a few scientist, philosophers, inventors, and intellects in general? because let me tell you our nation had a lot of great minds, and you couldn't tell based on a lot of our average citizens.

As for Sweden....ehm there was nothing to start? Sweden was already civilized during the 1500s. If you want to compare, compare Sweden's size at the time Athens started its civilization. Scandinavia as a whole then was but a grouping of small tribes with little to no population growth.

Greece on the other hand from the time of its civilization to the end grew exponentially. At around 450 bc Athens was at 100k. Not one Scandinavian country numbered that many let alone a region.

[zhaoyun]

That might hold true for the economic climate, but the reason it dominates all those fields simultaneously today is because of the people it brought over. We went from a colony of a bunch of farmers with little to no higher education to what we are now in a very short time. You backtrack to some of our most booming industries today and come to find out a large chunk were at the hands of immigrants. From the Nuke, to when we set off to Space. Many foreigners were present at the time. Hell what would our film or music industry be without the Jews we brought over in the 20th century. It would exist sure, be as huge as it is now? probably not. From the 20s on up they've been present in the vast majority of productions. Today around 50% of Silicon valley is made up of foreigners.

You forgot the part about its close proximity to the mid east, and its influence on its own civilization. Same with Rome who then went on to borrow heavily from Greece and every single civilization they conquered then on.

A homogeneous nation with little outside contact can compete with a nation absorbing everyone elses cultures? Not a chance in hell. No nation has an excuse for underperforming now however. All nations today have access to the same education and cultural enrichment. The excuse of homogenity, little outide contact, and a small populous is more viable than "Germany is keeping us down". Especially since these powers in antiquity were also "keeping people down.

This demonizing of tribalistic cultures also seems beyond ridiculous to me, because what are we now? Nations of people glorifying material things and celebrities. The Natives might have been "primitive" in the eyess of the self proclaimed higher socities but they weren't all suicidal drunks like they are now. Can you guess which group of people put them in such a position? was it the primitive or the high societies?

If there's truly something wrong with being tribal then why is it that every single great atrocity has been contributed by the "high societies". The primitive Slavs/Scandinavians didn't genocide and enslave thousands upon thousands throughout the globe.

There's some huge hypocrisy going on as well. The influence on Med countries from Asia is downplayed a lot. However when it comes to Northern European acomplishments and innovations its all "because of Rome". Despite the fact that Britain alone out invented all of them. Despite the fact much of its contributions had nothing to do with any Roman/Greek influence its "because of Rome".

I'd also like to ask how do we measure being primitive? because the bulk of ancient civilizations were also very primitive, and barbaric in comparison to the later power. Killing people in cold blood in the streets, high crime/murder rates, executing people with circumstantial evidence, eating rats, lying food right next to the toilets, walls that reek of piss, orgies, rubbing your dick on some young boys ass. Not exactly what I imagine high class being. Many of the self proclaimed higher class groups did things that no Anglo Saxon, Viking, or Ancient Slav ever did. I'm willing to bet excluding the Aztecs many "primitive" tribes existed in the Americas that weren't nearly as barbaric and destructive as Romans were. How can we really call a group of people high class based on what? a few scientist, philosophers, inventors, and intellects in general? because let me tell you our nation had a lot of great minds, and you couldn't tell based on a lot of our average citizens.

As for Sweden....ehm there was nothing to start? Sweden was already civilized during the 1500s. If you want to compare, compare Sweden's size at the time Athens started its civilization. Scandinavia as a whole then was but a grouping of small tribes.

I actually don't disagree with your argument. I'm certainly not demonizing tribes, I'm just making an argument based on the standards presented here, that somehow Northern Europeans are superior due to a higher level of development, so forth. I actually don't consider a higher level of development a sign of innate superiority, and there are many measures of advancement that have nothing to do with economic development at all.

So essentially we aren't in disagreement.

[dude]

These threads are getting boring. Don't be a one trick pony.
You should add this thread to your earlier thread about dumb theories.

[Insuperable]

Northern Europe is superior to Southern Europe in certain fields of socio-economic development and industrialization. But it is hardly an indicator of Northern Europe's innate superiority. European/Western civilization started in Southern Europe during a period when Northern Europe was primarily composed of nomadic tribes and small agriculture. In fact, for most of history, Southern Europe has been far more advanced and developed culturally and technologically, with far higher degrees of urbanity. So while we can say that Northern Europe is certainly ahead today in certain very important fields and indicators of development, it's hardly correct to attribute this to some sort of ingrained superiority of Northern Europeans, in fact, the lead has only been quite recent (in the past 300 years).

Southern Europeans just better utilized their northern side at the time.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

It's always someone else's fault... Study History dude! Even if Spain skipped the World Wars, it still had a crippling civil war!

The Spanish civil war was not as crippling as WW2 was for Poland, where entire Polish cities were completely destroyed & looted such as Warsaw.

There were a lot more wars in Eastern Europe than just WW1 & WW2, such as the Polish Soviet war or the Polish Ukrainian war ect.

Spain didn't have communism either.

Communism destroys an economy as they stomp out wealth creation & when communism collapsed the economy had to be destroyed & rebuilt again.

In 1950 Poland had a higher per capita income than Spain, Portugal & Greece did.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Economy/GDP-per-capita-in-1950

[Kalimtari]

Southern Europeans just better utilized their northern side at the time.

you Trolović you :D

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/578433/resized_grandma-finds-the-internet-meme-generator-theodore-you-naughty-boy-no-more-cake-for-you-22f7d6.jpg

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Northern Europe is superior to Southern Europe in certain fields of socio-economic development and industrialization. But it is hardly an indicator of Northern Europe's innate superiority. European/Western civilization started in Southern Europe during a period when Northern Europe was primarily composed of nomadic tribes and small agriculture. In fact, for most of history, Southern Europe has been far more advanced and developed culturally and technologically, with far higher degrees of urbanity. So while we can say that Northern Europe is certainly ahead today in certain very important fields and indicators of development, it's hardly correct to attribute this to some sort of ingrained superiority of Northern Europeans, in fact, the lead has only been quite recent (in the past 300 years).

The first urbanization in Europe didn't happen in the South but in the East in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture.

Of course Southern Europe used to have more urbanization than Northern Europe did because they had much higher populations.

This all changed around the time of the black death where Southern Europe's population lost a lot more of it's population.

Of course a disproportionate amount of Spaniards,Portuguese & Italians went to the America's including Latin America too, which accelerated the population loss in the South of Europe.

While Greece was decimated by the Ottoman Turks.

[brazuca]

The first urbanization in Europe didn't happen in the South but in the East in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture.

Of course Southern Europe used to have more urbanization than Northern Europe did because they had much higher populations.

This all changed around the time of the black death where Southern Europe's population lost a lot more of it's population.

Of course a disproportionate amount of Spaniards,Portuguese & Italians went to the America's including Latin America too, which accelerated the population loss in the South of Europe.

While Greece was decimated by the Ottoman Turks.

the vast majority of Iberians and Italians immigrated to "south america", not north america, central or Caribbean.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

the vast majority of Iberians and Italians immigrated to "south america", not north america, central or Caribbean.

I said America including Latin America.

[brazuca]

I said America including Latin America.

I said "South America" not "latin america"​​! will be that you "North American" know the difference?

[SobieskisavedEurope]

I said "South America" not "latin america"​​! will be that you "North American" know the difference?

South America = Latin America.

Unnecessary nitpicking & fussiness for no reason.

Do you have OCD?

[brazuca]

....

[brazuca]

South America = Latin America.

Unnecessary nitpicking & fussiness for no reason.

Do you have OCD?

you is ignorant for want of study or was born that way?

latin america:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Latin_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/550px-Latin_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.pn g

south america:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/South_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/541px-South_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.pn g

[SobieskisavedEurope]

you is ignorant for want of study or was born that way?

latin america:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Latin_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/550px-Latin_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.pn g

south america:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/South_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/541px-South_America_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.pn g

Keep your chimp fits to yourself.

[Also]

South America = Latin America.


Country: united states

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[brazuca]

Country: united states

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

it just confirms what I always thought!
:lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002:

[SobieskisavedEurope]

the vast majority of Iberians and Italians immigrated to "south america", not north america, central or Caribbean.

There are multiple millions of people of Italian & Iberian heritage in North America too!

What is the point of your OCD anyways?

The original point was that Southern Europeans diminished in numbers due to to the plague + mass immigration to America including Latin America.

You went on some nitpicking fussy fit OCD attack on the side & off topic too.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

it just confirms what I always thought!
:lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002:

The U.S.A scores a much higher PISA score than Brazil does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

[brazuca]

There are multiple millions of people of Italian & Iberian heritage in North America too!

What is the point of your OCD anyways?

The original point was that Southern Europeans diminished in numbers due to to the plague + mass immigration to America including Latin America.

You went on some nitpicking fussy fit OCD attack on the side & off topic too.

Iberians only exist in large numbers in Mexico (north america), the united states and canada have never been a destination for its migration.

[brazuca]

The U.S.A scores a much higher PISA score than Brazil does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

is! but it seems that you did not go to school, you do not know the difference between "latin america" ​​and "south america".

[Not a Cop]

Depends, I'd say yes if I think about how successful a North European country is. But using this type of logic they (South Europeans) would be superior to East Europeans...

Although the Economic get better the while you go from south to north in Eastern Europe

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Iberians only exist in large numbers in Mexico (north america), the united states and canada have never been a destination for its migration.

There are millions of Iberians in the U.S.A.

There are 1.4 million Portuguese Americans & 0.7 million Spaniard Americans.

When you count Hispanics in the U.S.A the number climbs significantly.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

is! but it seems that you did not go to school, you do not know the difference between "latin america" ​​and "south america".

Of course I went to school & made honor roll & even went to college & made the deans list.

The vast majority of South America is Latin America.

So go have more OCD chimp fits over non sense of semantics.

Maybe you didn't go to school if you didn't know that there are millions of Southern Europeans in North America. :D

[Rædwald]

Yeah I mean it's not like the had an output of some of the greatest minds in history or anything... :rolleyes:

[brazuca]

Of course I went to school & made honor roll & even went to college & made the deans list.

The vast majority of South America is Latin America.

So go have more OCD chimp fits over non sense of semantics.

Maybe you didn't go to school if you didn't know that there are millions of Southern Europeans in North America. :D

the vast majority of South America is "part" of the "Latin American", but "south america" is not synonymous with "latin america"​​.

Does you know that your country is part of the call: "Anglo-America":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/LocationWHAngloAmerica2.png

[SobieskisavedEurope]

the vast majority of South America is "part" of the "Latin American", but "south america" is not synonymous with "latin america"​​.

Does you know that your country is part of the call: "Anglo-America":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/LocationWHAngloAmerica2.png

I know that Suriname & Guyana are not Latin America but they might as well be since they are racially more like Latin America.

Listen I don't really care.

You have gone way off topic with your annoying OCD.

I know you can't help it since Latin Americans have the highest MAO levels of all populations & that high MAO levels cause OCD.

[brazuca]

I know that Suriname & Guyana are not Latin America but they might as well be since they are racially more like Latin America.

Listen I don't really care.

You have gone way off topic with your annoying OCD.

I know you can't help it since Latin Americans have the highest MAO levels of all populations & that high MAO levels cause OCD.

Latin america is racially diverse! Guyana, Suriname, Jamaica etc are all brothers of the united states.

and what the fuck is "OCD" that you talks so much about?

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Latin america is racially diverse! Guyana, Suriname, Jamaica etc are all brothers of the united states.

and what the fuck is "OCD" that you talks so much about?

OCD = Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

[Scandalf]

Although the Economic get better the while you go from south to north in Eastern Europe

In the East European context yes.

[Scandalf]

Although the Economic get better the while you go from south to north in Eastern Europe

By the way, the same could be said about Italy, no doubt.

[Kalimtari]

It is the truth.

funny fact about "truth": usually it's arbitrary as fuck (your truth can easily be my lie/BS/nebula)

[Peyrol]

I got no any wet dreams about "superiority of pale blondes". Actually, I find this thread rather stupid. Even if there is any "arabolevantonorthafrican genetic input" in Italians and other Southern Europeans it doesn't settle anything - they are not inferior in any case (Arabs aren't inferior either). I was just referring to the numbers about Poles in Italy you gave. Polish Central Statistical Office says it's 97,000 and got no reason to do not trust it.

I don't really need any readings on Italian economy. Italy is one of the most developed countries in the world and significantly wealthier than most of Eastern Europe (yet;-). There is nothing wrong with building houses and roads - it's a decent job like any other. Not every Italian works as an architect, designer, engineer, programmer etc. There are many who do some simpler jobs like these you mentioned. The same applies to Poles and exactly these "unskilled" workers are these who emigrate just because better wages in Italy, Spain or UK. Engineers or coders don't need to move anywhere:).

As for Italy, yes, as a matter of fact Italy is recently going through a difficult period in terms of economy but its GDP is bigger than Russian. Isn't Russia considered as a global power which can eat Western Europe (not to mention USA) for breakfast? It's a different story but either Italy isn't so weak or Russia isn't so strong;-) Anyway, someone here is lacking a sense of proportion. Poland is doing well but needs at least 10 years to catch up with Italy (assuming the current pace of development will be maintained).

Again, there are idiots among Italians and the same applies to Poles (and all other nations), so (just a little piece of advice) ignore these talking nonsense about how Poland, Italy, Albania, UK, Germany, Russia etc. is great, racially superior, unsullied etc. Want me to send you some user names?;-)

PS. I got nothing against Italians which are btw. most popular nation in Poland before Czechs and Spaniards.

Yeah sorry for the weird reply but i was tired of many (american) slavs which are always talking racial shits about us, i was a bit biased.

[Balmung]

To celebrate the Southern European masters, and the great civilization they introduced to us barbaric cave dwellers. I insist we rub pigeon feces in our hair in their honor!

[Rugevit]

Southern European are master race because nordid came from southern Europe. Northern Europeans have Siberian admixture and visible mongoloid features.

[zhaoyun]

To celebrate the Southern European masters, and the great civilization they introduced to us barbaric cave dwellers. I insist we rub pigeon feces in our hair in their honor!

http://media2.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

[Insuperable]

Mentally, physically and aesthetically. Kinda delusional to think otherwise.

[B01AB20]

Mentally, physically and aesthetically. Kinda delusional to think otherwise.

;)

well I recognize this, you have style doing 'bump'.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MQ2ADkJegQE/T6Evt_1XdSI/AAAAAAAABvk/Lws2RK4Y0pA/s1600/Javier_Bardem_Huevos_oro_Bigas_Luna_1993.jpg
:)


btw, I've read something about UFOs in croatian coast, are you a croatian alien just by chance?

[Yehiel]

Nobody is inferior.. However almost all the great European empires and European culture stems from Southern Europe..

[Smaug]

I don't know, but the good part of the croatian DNA is definitely due to the venetian influence.

So true.

[Insuperable]

Nobody is inferior.. However almost all the great European empires and European culture stems from Southern Europe..

And we all stem from apes, doesn't make them inferior. We went through this many times. I just don't know why people can't see the obvious thing here. Maybe they don't want to see. The more European nation, more advanced society on average. It is quite evident.

[B01AB20]

Nobody is inferior.. However almost all the great European empires and European culture stems from Southern Europe..

german empire.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/German_colonial.PNG


belgian empire.
http://sergeywaz.ucoz.ru/_ld/11/68647285.png


dutch empire.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eHiAmfz0NxY/TOl6J_QcvUI/AAAAAAAABD8/jyISxlD4rKo/s1600/%255B1602-1949%255D+imperio+holandes+1602-1949.png


austrian empire.
http://www.oni.escuelas.edu.ar/2002/BUENOS_AIRES/rivalidades/Imagenes/Imperio%20austro%20Hungriaco.jpg



swedish empire.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/LocationSwedishEmpire.png


danish empire.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Denmark-Norway_and_possessions.png


inca empire.
http://html.rincondelvago.com/000436202.png


aztec empire.
http://alerce.pntic.mec.es/lsam0005/2bach_historia/imagenes/imperio_azteca.jpg


turkish empire.
http://blogs.ua.es/barbarroja/files/2009/10/mapa-blanco-europa-africa-copia.jpg


well, northerns played in the minor imperialistic leagues I'd say.

anyway they're nice people. :patpat:

[Peikko]

well, northerns played in the minor imperialistic leagues I'd say.

anyway they're nice people. :patpat:
You forgot the British and the French.

[B01AB20]

You forgot the British and the French.

oh myyy! :banghead: you're right.

And don't forget either the greatest northtern empire the times have ever seen.


http://www.moglik.com/i/av/sq_mapas-imperiales-imperio-mongol21.jpg

:pound:
:pound:
:pound:
:pound:

[Rudel]

Nobody is inferior.. However almost all the great European empires and European culture stems from Southern Europe..
After the Muslim wave of invasions, "Europe" (slightly anachronistic term) shifted towards the continent, while tf was centred around the Med sea before that.

[Peikko]

oh myyy! :banghead: you're right.

And don't forget either the greatest northtern empire the times have ever seen.

:pound:
:pound:
:pound:
:pound:
I was actually thinking of mentioning that (and Russian empire) :P .( Looks actually quite Southern to me)

[B01AB20]

I was actually thinking of mentioning that (and Russian empire) :P .( Looks actually quite Southern to me)

OK gringoloco, I'm not interested in the mongol-russian-finnish trolling war.

what happened to you man?, you used to be a decent user not so long ago.

and btw, singular of 'finlandeses' is 'finlandés', not 'finlandese'.

if you like to do idiotic things at least do properly.

[Peikko]

OK gringoloco, I'm not interested in the mongol-russian-finnish trolling war.

what happened to you man?, you used to be a decent user not so long ago.

and btw, singular of 'finlandeses' is 'finlandés', not 'finlandese'.

if you like to do idiotic things at least do properly.
What do you mean? Are you butt hurt, because I called Cristiano veijo brownskin? Thanks for the tip, I'll change it later.

[B01AB20]

What do you mean? Are you butt hurt, because I called Cristiano veijo brownskin? Thanks for the tip, I'll change it later.

if you don't know what I mean then let it be.

I had no idea what you called cristiano or any other...

[Cleitus]

You forgot the British and the French.
And were is the Finnish empire ? Oh i forgot it never existed http://31.media.tumblr.com/3604ab58f162495b382192deabb0d6d1/tumblr_mptli2RJDp1sppmago1_400.gif

[Peikko]

And were is the Finnish empire ? Oh i forgot it never existed http://31.media.tumblr.com/3604ab58f162495b382192deabb0d6d1/tumblr_mptli2RJDp1sppmago1_400.gif
Where is Albo empire? Found it!
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ottoman-empire-1580.gif

[Cleitus]

Where is Albo empire? Found it!
http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ottoman-empire-1580.gif
Yes, we ruled over North Africa if you mean that.

[FeederOfRavens]

bump

[Guapo]

Yes.

[just]

Are Northern Europeans inferior because of Scandiefinnmongolian genetic input?

Probably Estonians are being considered boring because of the Finno-Ugric genes. :coffee:














(yes)

[Guapo]

.

Yep

[just]

Yep

Very sadly, it also appears in phenotypes.
Most Estonians are Nordid input Baltid. Sometimes light haired Pontid. That's end.
Even some are looked like the dead. While NW have much more obvious facelines with various phenotypes.

[Guapo]

Very sadly, it also appears in phenotypes.
Most Estonians are Nordid input Baltid. Sometimes light haired Pontid. That's end.
Even some are looked like the dead. While NW have much more obvious facelines with various phenotypes.

i concur

[Obscene]

Bump

[Balmung]

Are Northern Europeans inferior because of Scandiefinnmongolian genetic input?
















(yes)

Actually no, mongoloids are intelligent. Far more than that of Arabs or Africans. So you actually just made an arguement for northerners being superior.

[Papastratosels26]

No...

[Tietar]

Northern Europe is superior to Southern Europe in certain fields of socio-economic development and industrialization. But it is hardly an indicator of Northern Europe's innate superiority. European/Western civilization started in Southern Europe during a period when Northern Europe was primarily composed of nomadic tribes and small agriculture. In fact, for most of history, Southern Europe has been far more advanced and developed culturally and technologically, with far higher degrees of urbanity. So while we can say that Northern Europe is certainly ahead today in certain very important fields and indicators of development, it's hardly correct to attribute this to some sort of ingrained superiority of Northern Europeans, in fact, the lead has only been quite recent (in the past 300 years).

The "recent" development of the central-north was due to the creation of a huge megalopolis with high population density

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/experiencesoflifeinearlymoderneurope-130205192042-phpapp01/95/experiences-of-life-in-early-modern-europe-9-638.jpg?cb=1442861520

[MinervaItalica]

Southern are superior.

[oszkar07]

Are Southern Europeans inferior because of Arabolevantonorthafrican genetic input?

No , but possibly sneakier lol.

I hear southern Italy has best pickpockets lol.

[GreentheViper]

No , but possibly sneakier lol.

I hear southern Italy has best pickpockets lol.

I heard that too, XD

[Visage pâle]

Inferior to what ? It's absurd.