Lost city of Atlantis 'could be buried in southern Spain'

[Liffrea]

Archaeologists have begun the search for an ancient civilization in southern Spain that some believe could help pinpoint the legendary lost city of Atlantis.

A team of researchers from Spain's Higher Council for Scientific Study (CSIC) are examining a marshy area of Andalusian parkland to find evidence of a 3,000-year-old settlement.

They believe that Tartessos, a wealthy civilization in southern Iberia that predates the Phoenicians, may have had its capital in the heart of what is now the Donana national park.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/7019522/Lost-city-of-Atlantis-could-be-buried-in-southern-Spain.html

[Pallantides]

I thought Atlantis was located in Östersjön:p

[Crux]

Very interresting, however I think we can all agree that there never was a real Atlantis. Plato isn't the kind of person one would want to take ''literally''.

[Stossy]

I thought Atlantis was burried underneath my house.. I guess that's why we have hills in the part of the country where I live.

[Sol Invictus]

Archaeologists have begun the search for an ancient civilization in southern Spain that some believe could help pinpoint the legendary lost city of Atlantis.

By Fiona Govan in Madrid
Published: 6:00AM GMT 19 Jan 2010

A team of researchers from Spain's Higher Council for Scientific Study (CSIC) are examining a marshy area of Andalusian parkland to find evidence of a 3,000-year-old settlement.

They believe that Tartessos, a wealthy civilization in southern Iberia that predates the Phoenicians, may have had its capital in the heart of what is now the Donana national park.

Until now historians had dismissed the region as a possible site believing that it had been submerged since the ice age. But it is claimed new evidence suggests the waters may have receded in time for the Tartessians to build an urban centre, which was later destroyed in a tsunami.

Read More Here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/7019522/Lost-city-of-Atlantis-could-be-buried-in-southern-Spain.html)

[Amapola]

I always knew I was one of them

:D

:roll:

[Stossy]

Double post?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12458

[Sol Invictus]

Double post?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12458

Yup, my bad. :redface_002:

[antonio]

Very interresting, however I think we can all agree that there never was a real Atlantis. Plato isn't the kind of person one would want to take ''literally''.

Why not? He's one of the best, if not the best, philosopher of all ages: the people which dedicate his lifes to abstract sensible reality, in this case, passed one, what we called History.

[Crux]

Why not? He's one of the best, if not the best, philosopher of all ages: the people which dedicate his lifes to abstract sensible reality, in this case, passed one, what we called History.

Because he is a philosopher ;), he basically said that an advanced culture was already there in 9600BC which conquered most of Europe and other parts and in the end got defeated by Athens and disappeared. The is no reason to believe that there was such an Atlantis but maybe, maybe there was something similar, some Island colony or something who's power he then exheggerated using various resources, maybe that Atlantis exists and maybe that Atlantis is buried in southern Spain...who knows.

[Wulfhere]

Though there are some pretty good arguments for the Crete/Thera hypothesis, I think the best candidate is Doggerland in the North Sea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

[December]

duplicate

[December]

Beat Açores as best candidate for anything Atlantier-Than-Thou:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/teacher_resources/magnetism/mid_atlantic_ridge_10_inch.jpg

http://www.horta.uac.pt/Intradop/mapas/Atlantico%20Norte%20e%20Azores%20copy.JPG

:)

[Guapo]

I agree with both of your posts.

[December]

http://i.olhares.com/data/big/189/1892662.jpg

http://i.olhares.com/data/big/94/941028.jpg

http://escapadelas.com/files/Pico%20com%20neve_0.JPG

http://ipt.olhares.com/data/big/78/787283.jpg

http://www.wikiwak.com/image/Cidade+de+Angra+do+Hero%C3%ADsmo,+ilha+Terceira,+A %C3%A7ores.jpg

http://blog.acorestube.com/wp-content/uploads/ic8rpt.jpg

[Kadu]

Beat Açores as best candidate for anything Atlantier-Than-Thou:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134702&postcount=19

[December]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134702&postcount=19
Whoa... huge article. I'll read it better later on. Thanks anyway.

[lisulisa]

Because he is a philosopher ;), he basically said that an advanced culture was already there in 9600BC which conquered most of Europe and other parts and in the end got defeated by Athens and disappeared. The is no reason to believe that there was such an Atlantis but maybe, maybe there was something similar, some Island colony or something who's power he then exheggerated using various resources, maybe that Atlantis exists and maybe that Atlantis is buried in southern Spain...who knows.

10.000 years bc from helgoland till spain there was land were now is sea.
it is possible on these old land( OTLAND) people surived the Ice Ages.
it is also likely to survive they must be smart and brave.
So parts are in the north and parts are till spain.

[Piparskeggr]

I read this for the first time as a boy of around 10, and it has stayed with me these 40+ years later...

Ballade of an Artificial Satellite by Poul Anderson - 1958

"Thence they sailed far to the southward along the land, and came to a ness; the land lay upon the right; there were long and sandy strands. They rowed to land, and found there upon the ness the keel of a ship, and called the place Keeless, and the strands they called Wonderstrands for it took a long time to sail by them." - Thorfinn Karlsefni’s Voyage to Vinland

--------------------------------------------------------

One inland summer I walked through rye,
a wind at my heels that smelled of rain
and harried white clouds through a whistling sky
where the great sun stalked and shook his mane
and roared so brightly across the grain
it burned and shimmered like alien sands.-
Ten years old, I saw down a lane
the thunderous light on Wonderstrands.

In ages before the world ran dry,
what might the mapless not contain?
Atlantis gleamed like a dream to die,
Avalon lay under faerie reign,
Cibola guarded a golden plain,
Tir-nan-Og was fair-locked Fand’s,
sober men saw from a gull’s-road wain
the thunderous light on Wonderstrands.

Such clanging countries in cloudland lie;
but men grew weary and they grew sane
and they grew grown - and so did I -
and knew Tartessus was only in Spain.
No galleons called at Taprobane
(Ceylon, with English); no queenly hands
wear gold from Punt; nor sees the Dane
the thunderous light on Wonderstrands.

Ahoy, Prince Andros Horizen’s-bane!
They always wait, the elven lands.
An evening planet gives again
the thunderous light on Wonderstrands.

[lisulisa]

according mr.Spanuth the Isle of Helgoland was 10.000 years ago bigger then nowadays.

If after the Iceages the sealevel rose it is logic villages desappeared.

[Don]

Time and scientific efforts will eventually tell that before visigothics, before celts, before iberians... there was a civilization in Iberia, the genetic core of the Atlantic or Westerners, in particular of most spaniards (a extremely genetically "pure" -homogeneous- race) and some other ancient inhabitants of Other western Regions.

This is an ancient, misterious and unknown land. And we are the oldest Breed in Europe, linked to these lands.

[Don]

http://books.google.es/books?id=hcV1OGp_IY4C&pg=PA208&lpg=PA208&dq=civilizaciones+ib%C3%A9ricas&source=bl&ots=1oiAeeUGCI&sig=_zH1I-H20RjwgUMOL5SgfAOtWMw&hl=es&ei=1LwcTPHaJ8_14Ab4xKmBDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=civilizaciones%20ib%C3%A9ricas&f=false Very interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Spain

http://www.bloganavazquez.com/2009/02/02/nuevas-escrituras-paleohispanicas-de-epoca-megalitica/

http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/fichero_articulo?codigo=897225&orden=72381

http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sananton/coloqmeg.pdf

Today I am too busy to translate or write about one of the most interesting and mysterious matters, the prehistory in Iberia.

The information is huge but very little compared with the enigmas that are hidden still in our Ancient and Mythic land...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/La_Pasiega-Galeria_C-panel_77.png
No, it is not the new logo of some corporation's product.

http://www.atapuerca.tv/images/index.jpg

[Brynhild]

I won't hold my breath just yet! (http://au.news.yahoo.com/tech-news/a/-/technology/9000943/lost-city-of-atlantis-swamped-by-tsunami-may-be-found/)


NORTHAMPTON, Mass (Reuters) - A U.S.-led research team may have finally located the lost city of Atlantis, the legendary metropolis believed swamped by a tsunami thousands of years ago in mud flats in southern Spain.

"This is the power of tsunamis," head researcher Richard Freund told Reuters.

"It is just so hard to understand that it can wipe out 60 miles inland, and that's pretty much what we're talking about," said Freund, a University of Hartford, Connecticut, professor who lead an international team searching for the true site of Atlantis.

To solve the age-old mystery, the team used a satellite photo of a suspected submerged city to find the site just north of Cadiz, Spain. There, buried in the vast marshlands of the Dona Ana Park, they believe that they pinpointed the ancient, multi-ringed dominion known as Atlantis.

The team of archeologists and geologists in 2009 and 2010 used a combination of deep-ground radar, digital mapping, and underwater technology to survey the site.

Freund's discovery in central Spain of a strange series of "memorial cities," built in Atlantis' image by its refugees after the city's likely destruction by a tsunami, gave researchers added proof and confidence, he said.

Atlantis residents who did not perish in the tsunami fled inland and built new cities there, he added.

The team's findings will be unveiled on Sunday in "Finding Atlantis," a new National Geographic Channel special.

While it is hard to know with certainty that the site in Spain in Atlantis, Freund said the "twist" of finding the memorial cities makes him confident Atlantis was buried in the mud flats on Spain's southern coast.

"We found something that no one else has ever seen before, which gives it a layer of credibility, especially for archeology, that makes a lot more sense," Freund said.

Greek philosopher Plato wrote about Atlantis some 2,600 years ago, describing it as "an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Hercules," as the Straits of Gibraltar were known in antiquity. Using Plato's detailed account of Atlantis as a map, searches have focused on the Mediterranean and Atlantic as the best possible sites for the city.

Tsunamis in the region have been documented for centuries, Freund says. One of the largest was a reported 10-story tidal wave that slammed Lisbon in November, 1755.

Debate about whether Atlantis truly existed has lasted for thousands of years. Plato's "dialogues" from around 360 B.C. are the only known historical sources of information about the iconic city. Plato said the island he called Atlantis "in a single day and night... disappeared into the depths of the sea."

Experts plan further excavations are planned at the site where they believe Atlantis is located and at the mysterious "cities" in central Spain 150 miles away to more closely study geological formations and to date artifacts.

(Editing by Barbara Goldberg and Greg McCune)

[Adalwolf]

Negative. After much heavy research, I have found this to be the truth.


The Nazis discovered that Antarctica was none other than flash frozen Atlantis after they consulted with Tibetan esoteric buddhists. From their Neuschwabenland Base 211, they retro-engineered the rune covered vimanas and created their own Nazi Bell, Haunebu, Vril, Flugelrads, Silver Bugs, etc. that eventually lead to 4th Reich modern vimanas like the TR-3B Astra of today. After the USA took over the program during Operation Highjump and moving all the Nazi occultists/scientists/war criminals to America via Operation Paperclip, they now work on these evil projects in D.U.M.B.s like Area 51 and S-4 along with the returned Grigori/Watchers/Igigi pretending to be "grey aliens".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd2lQ4bCPRE&feature=channel_video_title

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/images-4/nazi-ufo.jpg

[Loddfafner]

Negative. After much heavy research, I have found this to be the truth.

I am curious as to the research methods (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4435) that would lead to such a conclusion.

[Adalwolf]

The Chronological timeline of events matches up perfectly.

-German expeditions to consult Tibetan esoteric buddhists and occultists.

-German Antarctic base set up.

- Verified sightings of new German technology.

- America wins the war and takes over operation at Neuschwabenland base 211.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump

-Top nazi scientists and occultists are captured by Americans and forced to work on new projects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

- Leap forward a few years and all of a sudden all over the American west there are sightings of these unconfirmed "ET" aircrafts.

[Adalwolf]

TR-3B Astra


http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/5/4418/tr3b_astra0.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oKYPBGGUjKU/0.jpg

[Eldritch]

The Chronological timeline of events matches up perfectly.

-German expeditions to consult Tibetan esoteric buddhists and occultists.

-German Antarctic base set up.

- Verified sightings of new German technology.

- America wins the war and takes over operation at Neuschwabenland base 211.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Highjump

-Top nazi scientists and occultists are captured by Americans and forced to work on new projects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

- Leap forward a few years and all of a sudden all over the American west there are sightings of these unconfirmed "ET" aircrafts.

That's not research, Adalwolf, that's just a chain of one wild conjecture after another.

[lei.talk]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2drwg3a.png (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=308996#post308996)

[Don]

Plato also told an especific tradition of the atlantes:

they practiced a ritual to mother earth based in a mortal fight in an arena between a man with a sword and a bull, symbol of the forces of nature, fertility and power... this reminds me something...

http://www.salvadorperezbassols.com/imatges/TORERO-BLANCO.jpg

Of course human stupidity is the best way to erase our ancient roots, traditions and links to the origins.

[Cato]

I've seen the Tartessos-as-Atlantis theory before, but anyone who takes the story of Atlantis seriously might as well take the story of the Tower of Babel seriously as well.

Plato introduced Atlantis in the Timaeus dialogue, and used it as a morality tale wherein Socrates muses about a utopian society overcome by its own indolence and greed. Other than this, what lore is there of it in the Greek writings?

[Korbis]

That place is where Chutlhu sleeps, right?

[Cato]

That place is where Chutlhu sleeps, right?

ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[Lábaru]

Where are the Vanir and the Picts? our ancestral enemies.


http://imagenes.levelup.com/uploads/members/blogs/blogs_photo_1260465244.jpg

[Cato]

Where are the Vanir and the Picts? our ancestral enemies.


http://imagenes.levelup.com/uploads/members/blogs/blogs_photo_1260465244.jpg

Running from the Aquilonians.

[Lábaru]

Running from the Aquilonians.


The Moors from North Africa paint their faces of colour blue, traditionally, could be the Picts.

[Cato]

The Moors from North Africa paint their faces of colour blue, traditionally, could be the Picts.

http://www.remotepatrolled.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/smurf1.jpg

Yes, I can see why the moors have no cajones.

[Cato]

http://www.remotepatrolled.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/smurf1.jpg

Yes, I can see why the moors have no cajones.

I intended to say cojones, but cajones means something else.

In either case, moors have no cojones (balls) NOR cajones (drawers).

But, what do you put balls in? A drawer might be the answer, so in a way... Moors have no balls nor drawers to put them in. :)

[Brynhild]

I won't hold my breath just yet! (http://au.news.yahoo.com/tech-news/a/-/technology/9000943/lost-city-of-atlantis-swamped-by-tsunami-may-be-found/)

My bad. Thanks to the mod for the merge. :p

[Guapo]

NORTHAMPTON, Mass (Reuters) - A U.S.-led research team may have finally located the lost city of Atlantis, the legendary metropolis believed swamped by a tsunami thousands of years ago in mud flats in southern Spain.

"This is the power of tsunamis," head researcher Richard Freund told Reuters.

"It is just so hard to understand that it can wipe out 60 miles inland, and that's pretty much what we're talking about," said Freund, a University of Hartford, Connecticut, professor who lead an international team searching for the true site of Atlantis.

To solve the age-old mystery, the team used a satellite photo of a suspected submerged city to find the site just north of Cadiz, Spain. There, buried in the vast marshlands of the Dona Ana Park, they believe that they pinpointed the ancient, multi-ringed dominion known as Atlantis.

The team of archeologists and geologists in 2009 and 2010 used a combination of deep-ground radar, digital mapping, and underwater technology to survey the site.

Freund's discovery in central Spain of a strange series of "memorial cities," built in Atlantis' image by its refugees after the city's likely destruction by a tsunami, gave researchers added proof and confidence, he said.

Atlantis residents who did not perish in the tsunami fled inland and built new cities there, he added.

The team's findings will be unveiled on Sunday in "Finding Atlantis," a new National Geographic Channel special.

While it is hard to know with certainty that the site in Spain in Atlantis, Freund said the "twist" of finding the memorial cities makes him confident Atlantis was buried in the mud flats on Spain's southern coast.

"We found something that no one else has ever seen before, which gives it a layer of credibility, especially for archeology, that makes a lot more sense," Freund said.

Greek philosopher Plato wrote about Atlantis some 2,600 years ago, describing it as "an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Hercules," as the Straits of Gibraltar were known in antiquity. Using Plato's detailed account of Atlantis as a map, searches have focused on the Mediterranean and Atlantic as the best possible sites for the city.

Tsunamis in the region have been documented for centuries, Freund says. One of the largest was a reported 10-story tidal wave that slammed Lisbon in November, 1755.

Debate about whether Atlantis truly existed has lasted for thousands of years. Plato's "dialogues" from around 360 B.C. are the only known historical sources of information about the iconic city. Plato said the island he called Atlantis "in a single day and night... disappeared into the depths of the sea."

Experts plan further excavations are planned at the site where they believe Atlantis is located and at the mysterious "cities" in central Spain 150 miles away to more closely study geological formations and to date artifacts.