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RussiaPrussia
05-05-2014, 08:18 PM
Beware the unjustifiable Racism towards Tatars and Turkic People
Russias richest Man = Turkic (Uzbek)
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/83598271.jpg?w=650&h=447&crop=1#038;h=705
Head of Lukoil one of Russia's largest Oil companies = Turkic (Azeri)
http://www.gazprom.com/f/posts/23/455255/cdm44502_1.jpg
Russias Central Bank Chief = Turkic (Tatar)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/getty/media/ALeqM5ghEjNCk7dwxIbohPktkMZkQstMpg
Putins secret love which he has an unofficial Child with = Turkic (Tatar)
http://oglympics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/elfilm.com-alina-kabaeva-112370.jpg
Russias Defense Minister, who ordered the troops to take over Crimea = Turkic (Tuvan)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Sergey_Shoigu_2013.jpg
Can any Middle east country especially Turkey show the same results? Is the central bank chief in turkey Armenian or the defense minister Kurd?
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:19 PM
Who said that Russia is racist against Turkics?
Alphawolf
05-05-2014, 08:22 PM
Look what Shirinowski says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC4a2MoJMCg
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:25 PM
Look what Shirinowski says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC4a2MoJMCg
I wouldnt take Zyrinovsky serious
RussiaPrussia
05-05-2014, 08:26 PM
Look what Shirinowski says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC4a2MoJMCg
he talks about turkey not Tatars, hes also fluent in speaking Kazakh and studied Turkic studies
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:26 PM
Also i can say that there is no "big" racism against Turkics in Russia (except those Nazis but they are a minority and hated by many)
(I speak of experience)
Alphawolf
05-05-2014, 08:27 PM
I wouldnt take Zyrinovsky serious
Why not?
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:28 PM
Why not?
Because he has weird ideas and box people on TV and in the parlament he shouldnt be taken serious
Longbowman
05-05-2014, 08:29 PM
But you say Ukraine is antisemitic despite their richest man being Jewish and lots of Jews in government...
Alphawolf
05-05-2014, 08:31 PM
Im not quite sure, but i heard that the wealthiest man in Ukraine is Turkic too.
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:33 PM
Im not quite sure, but i heard that the wealthiest man in Ukraine is Turkic too.
True Akhmetov is a Tatar
The Illyrian Warrior
05-05-2014, 08:33 PM
Because he has weird ideas and box people on TV and in the parlament he shouldnt be taken serious
Exactly, just take a look of Checheni "leader" Ramzan Kadyrov which is completely bought by Moskow today, the opposite what his father was.
portusaus
05-05-2014, 08:39 PM
That is one of Russia's flaws mate, they need to keep the Russian stock clean from the other residents. They can be respectful about it but they need miscegenation laws.
Chichic
05-05-2014, 08:43 PM
Russians hate Turks, but Tatars are not Turks.
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:44 PM
That is one of Russia's flaws mate, they need to keep the Russian stock clean from the other residents. They can be respectful about it but they need miscegenation laws.
No they shouldnt
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:44 PM
Russians hate Turks, but Tatars are not Turks.
True Tatars are not Turks but they are Turkic
Chichic
05-05-2014, 08:48 PM
True Tatars are not Turks but they are Turkic
But this is about Turks, not about Turkics.
Alphawolf
05-05-2014, 08:49 PM
True Tatars are not Turks but they are Turkic
The term Turk also includes the group of the Turkic peoples. It's a general term.
Kiyant
05-05-2014, 08:51 PM
Tatars and Uzbeks both are more like Russians than like Turks.
You understand what i mean with Turkic right?
Even if they are closer to Russians (what they are) the language is still Turkic
Musso
05-05-2014, 08:57 PM
Why would Russia hate Turkic people?
The Eurasian Union will adopt a new currency: Altyn (Rus: Алтын). Vladimir Putin announced that Altyn as the new Eurasian currency was originally planned for 2025, but now, due to the US/EU sanctions against Russia, the transition to Altyn may occur within 3-5 years.
ltyn has a very ancient and long-ranging history. What is Altyn?
Altyn means gold. The word is of Turkic origin (not to be confused with Turkish). The Turkic family of languages includes languages spoken by the Siberian peoples, Tatars, Mongols, and of course, Kazakhs.
Russia always was a multi-national country and Turkic languages have been some of the widely spoken in the country. In ancient and medieval times, Russians traded and maintained very extensive relations with Asia and the Middle East. The Silk Road and other important eastern trade routes went through Russia. Medieval Russians routinely spoke Arabic and Turkic languages just as fluently as their native language. Some Turkic words became part of the Russian language. One such word was denga, from Turkic tenge. The contemporary Russian word for money is dengi in plural.
Another such word was altyn. From the sheer number of the financially related Turkic words it is clear how important historically was the Russian trade relationship with its Eastern neighbors.
Altyn was the name of the ancient gold coin once used by Russians extensively for trade with Turkic and Arabic neighbors. Later, in medieval times, altyn, or altynnik, became one of the regular Russian coins. In 15th century, altyn equalled six Moscow dengi, or 1/200s of a Moscow ruble. It also equaled three Novgorod dengi, or 1/100s of a Novgorod ruble. Denga was also called kopeika (kopeika is presently the 1/100s of a ruble). In the ancient times it was also called the arian kuna.
The old Russian proverb was: Had nothing, and all of a sudden, altyn. Rus: Не было ни гроша, да вдруг алтын. This is an equvalent of English: From rags to riches. In those days kopeikas and altyns were big money. And only the rich owned rubles. Of course, back then all currency was real gold, silver and bronze.
In this regard, the meaning of Altyn, gold, is very telling.
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/breaking-russia-announces-eurasian-union-and-new-currency-altyn/
Arianiti
05-05-2014, 08:59 PM
Buy Russian Cars
:laugh:
Xanthias
05-05-2014, 09:30 PM
I like the guy on the video, he has some anti-Turanist speech.
legolasbozo
05-05-2014, 09:31 PM
firstly, our ex-prime minister was kurdish origins, Turgut özal. And if that's the case, i can show you many georgian (for instance main prime minister) bosniak, circassian, kurdish, albanian, jewish politician/global ceo etc. But can you show me a CHECHEN politician or global ceo?
Danishmend
05-05-2014, 11:53 PM
Can any Middle east country especially Turkey show the same results? Is the central bank chief in turkey Armenian or the defense minister Kurd?
You must be kidding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turgut_%C3%96zal
Ex prime minister & the eighth president of Turkey = Turgut Özal (Kurd)
http://istihbarat.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/turgut_ozal.png
Former Minister of Economic Affairs - Zafer Çağlayan (Kurd)
http://www.haberler.com/haber-resimleri/753/bakan-caglayan-cozum-surecini-baslatmak-2_6027_o.jpg
Former Governor of Istanbul and the Minister of the Interior - Muammer Güler (Kurd)
http://www.aktifhaber.com/d/other/muammer_guler_120335572.jpg
Chief of the National Intelligence Organization of Turkey - Hakan Fidan (He is from Van province in Eastern Anatolia / most likely a Kurd)
http://www.netgazete.com/files//76941_hakan_1_983741022.jpg
and the list goes on
gültekin
05-06-2014, 03:24 AM
Can any Middle east country especially Turkey show the same results? Is the central bank chief in turkey Armenian or the defense minister Kurd?
of course manys, ex defense minister , deputy prime minister Beşir Atalay its a Kürt if im not wrong . Tayyip Erdoğan self its a Georgian
ex president Turgut Özal was a other Kürt
gültekin
05-06-2014, 03:34 AM
Russia must the same result showing, a CHECHEN or a nord caucasian
that is our Chechen, ex Turkish chief of staff Doğan Güreş
http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/aktuel/2013/03/27/Haber/432649840770.jpg
Visitor_22
05-06-2014, 03:42 AM
Rashid Nurgaliev - Former minister of Internal Affairs of Russian Federation. Tatar by ethnicity who was born in Kazakh SSR.
http://www.asfera.info/files/Fck/file/img/Crime/Nurgaliev_big_001.jpg
Chichic
05-06-2014, 03:45 AM
Russia must the same result showing, a CHECHEN or a nord caucasian
that is our Chechen, ex Turkish chief of staff Doğan Güreş
http://i.tmgrup.com.tr/aktuel/2013/03/27/Haber/432649840770.jpg
He's not Chechen.
gültekin
05-06-2014, 03:49 AM
He's not Chechen. yes he is
Chichic
05-06-2014, 03:51 AM
yes he is
Stop lying you Turkish dog, he's not Chechen, it's so obvious.
gültekin
05-06-2014, 03:54 AM
Stop lying you Turkish dog, he's not Chechen, it's so obvious.
halt dein arsch maul zu and search self http://justgit.com/?q=do%C4%9Fan%20g%C3%BCre%C5%9F%20chechen
Chichic
05-06-2014, 03:57 AM
halt dein arsch maul zu and search self http://justgit.com/?q=do%C4%9Fan%20g%C3%BCre%C5%9F%20chechen
He's Turkish man stop talking shit here.
gültekin
05-06-2014, 03:59 AM
He's Turkish man stop talking shit here. shut the fuck up if u have not a braine
Mortimer
05-06-2014, 04:18 AM
I really believe that "Russian Racism" is very exaggerated and propaganda tool of the west, i bet if i went to moscow i would have a nice time and meet many open and friendly people just like in London or Paris. Also those Tatars look white
Danishmend
05-06-2014, 04:53 AM
Stop lying you Turkish dog, he's not Chechen, it's so obvious.
Stop insulting people you rabid dog, you really need to be tamed. And yes, no matter how loud you bark, Circassians in Turkey claim that he is Chechen (or at least her mother is)
legolasbozo
05-06-2014, 05:00 AM
The thing is both russia and turkey not racist to any ethnicity if he/she well integrated enough. And that's not mean those countries always welcoming such ethnicities. İts still the same everywhere, i bet a southerner is not happy with presidency of obama.
Kemalisté
05-06-2014, 07:42 AM
The current president Gul is of Armenian origin. When asked he said he was a Muslim but didn't reject his origins. There are also lots of Jews that served in high positions.
Russia may not be racist but you're pretty racist.
But this is about Turks, not about Turkics.
Hey desperate guy, turkic is turk, turk is turk. put it to your mind. Only you can accept your deliberate words
blogen
05-06-2014, 09:43 AM
Stop lying you Turkish dog, he's not Chechen, it's so obvious.
He born in a Chechen village (Cardak), so probably he is Chechen or Turco-Chechen origin. Lot of Caucasian people live in Anatolia.
http://s27.postimg.org/tywvbyzvn/000536.gif
Chichic
05-06-2014, 09:55 AM
He born in a Chechen village (Cardak), so probably he is Chechen or Turco-Chechen origin. Lot of Caucasian people live in Anatolia.
http://s27.postimg.org/tywvbyzvn/000536.gif
What are you talking, man? The city Cardak is in Turkey, and that man was born in Turkey as well. His name is also Turkish.
blogen
05-06-2014, 10:36 AM
What are you talking, man? The city Cardak is in Turkey, and that man was born in Turkey as well. His name is also Turkish.
Cardak is a Chechen village in Turkey.
Kiyant
05-06-2014, 12:42 PM
Cardak is a Chechen village in Turkey.
Yes Cardak is a Chechen village
Lurker
05-06-2014, 03:08 PM
Putins secret love which he has an unofficial Child with = Turkic (Tatar)
http://oglympics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/elfilm.com-alina-kabaeva-112370.jpg
The guy has good taste! :thumb001:
StonyArabia
05-06-2014, 03:12 PM
The guy has good taste! :thumb001:
Tatars are very attractive most often
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9BvTEx_IFg
Chichic
05-06-2014, 09:43 PM
Tatars are very attractive most often
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9BvTEx_IFg
Because they are closer to Russians.
Chichic
05-06-2014, 09:50 PM
Cardak is a Chechen village in Turkey.
It's pretty obvious that he's not a Chechen.
Ivan Kramskoï
05-06-2014, 09:58 PM
In phenotype being tatar means nothing it can go from european look (very rare) to asians.
Most of them are euro/asian mixed because when mixed with a slav the child was considered tatar (like in the one drop rule).
blogen
05-06-2014, 10:04 PM
It's pretty obvious that he's not a Chechen.
"Doğan Güreş’te de var mı Kürtlük?
Hayır. Doğan Güreş çok demokrat. “Benim annem Çeçen’dir. Dayılarım Çeçenistan’dadır. Ben böyle bir tefriğe de karşıyım” dedi."
http://www.nuriyeakman.com/node/1806
"Ayrıca bu kökenden gelen insanların devletin karar alma sürecini etkileyebilecek makamlara gelebildikleri de unutulmamalıdır. Örneğin Çeçen asıllı olduğu söylenen eski Genelkurmay Başkanı Doğan Güreş döneminde Ankara, Çeçenistan’a sempatiyle bakmaktan ne ölçüde kaçınabilirdi."
http://www.circassiancenter.com/cc-turkiye/arastirma/0125_turkiyenin_gurcistan_politikasi.htm
etc.
He is a Turko-Chechen or Chechno-Turk or Turkic with Chechen ancestry.
gültekin
05-06-2014, 10:05 PM
Cardak is a Chechen village in Turkey.
It's pretty obvious that he's not a Chechen.
la bi siktir git
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXMu0GdZEI
DarkSecret
05-06-2014, 10:08 PM
Musso said Russians are killing Turks and Caucasians and told me not to visit Russia(I was planning to do so)
Kiyant
05-06-2014, 10:11 PM
Maybe this is interesting for some Chechens here:
The Checheno-Ingush ASSR was dissolved and transformed into Grozny Oblast, which included also the Kizlyarsky District and Naursky Raion, and parts of it were given to North Ossetia (part of Prigorodny District), Georgian SSR and Dagestan ASSR. Most of the empty housing was given to refugees from war-raged western Soviet Union. Abandoned houses were settled by newcomers, only the Mountain Jews and Ahiska Turks, both of which groups had previously lived in the area, refused to settle in foreign houses.
DarkSecret
05-06-2014, 10:51 PM
BTW my dear RussiaPrussia!
Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdoğan=Jewish-Georgian
http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/90/yahudi-cesaret-%C3%B6d%C3%BCl%C3%BC-alan-tek-m%C3%BCsl%C3%BCman_146265.jpg
President Abdullah Gül= Arab/Armenian
http://rusyaanaliz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Gul-Sarkisyan-2009-14-okt.jpg
Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç= Kurdish
http://i.ajanshaber.com/img/2/660/320/newsFiles/2013/11/16/13321/13321.jpg
AKP deputy Mehmet Fırat =Kurdish (Grandson of Şeyh Said who was a Kurdish rebel.)
Former Chief of Staff Yaşar Büyükanıt=Circassian
Look how democrat we are!
CHP leader Kılıçdaroğlu is also Armenian/Kurdish Alevi...
The only Turkic politician is Bahceli the MHP leader obviously...
DarkSecret
05-06-2014, 10:54 PM
You must be the middle east country look how ignorant you are он голубой!
Chichic
05-06-2014, 11:31 PM
"Doğan Güreşte de var mı Kürtlük?
Hayır. Doğan Güreş çok demokrat. Benim annem Çeçendir. Dayılarım Çeçenistandadır. Ben böyle bir tefriğe de karşıyım dedi."
http://www.nuriyeakman.com/node/1806
"Ayrıca bu kökenden gelen insanların devletin karar alma sürecini etkileyebilecek makamlara gelebildikleri de unutulmamalıdır. Örneğin Çeçen asıllı olduğu söylenen eski Genelkurmay Başkanı Doğan Güreş döneminde Ankara, Çeçenistana sempatiyle bakmaktan ne ölçüde kaçınabilirdi."
http://www.circassiancenter.com/cc-turkiye/arastirma/0125_turkiyenin_gurcistan_politikasi.htm
etc.
He is a Turko-Chechen or Chechno-Turk or Turkic with Chechen ancestry.
Seems like nonsense to me. I don't believe that.
Chichic
05-06-2014, 11:39 PM
Musso said Russians are killing Turks and Caucasians and told me not to visit Russia(I was planning to do so)
Yeah, Turks are rather not so popular in Russia.
Kiyant
05-07-2014, 04:14 AM
Seems like nonsense to me. I don't believe that.
But it is the truth
Chichic
05-07-2014, 05:00 AM
But it is the truth
With Turkish name from Turkey?
legolasbozo
05-07-2014, 05:31 AM
BTW my dear RussiaPrussia!
President Abdullah Gül= Arab/Armenian
Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç= Kurdish
maybe abdullah gül has armenian roots, but not arabic. And bülent arınç is not kurdish, creten muslim.
Kiyant
05-07-2014, 11:00 AM
With Turkish name from Turkey?
Because after Turkey was formed all citizen of that country needed to take a Turkish last name (exceptions were Greeks/Armenians and Jews).
You will also find many Circassians in Turkey with Turkish names for that reason and i can tell you that im 100% sure that he is a Chechen
Chichic
05-07-2014, 11:15 AM
Because after Turkey was formed all citizen of that country needed to take a Turkish last name (exceptions were Greeks/Armenians and Jews).
You will also find many Circassians in Turkey with Turkish names for that reason and i can tell you that im 100% sure that he is a Chechen
He is mainly Atlanto-Med which is very atypical for the region of the North Caucasus except Circassia. Circassians have some Atlantid because they are not indigenous in the Caucasus. Maybe he has some Circassian admixture, but Chechen is highly unlikely.
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