Do white people have the highest percentage of physically strong, high IQ people?

[Insuperable]

Two that just like that come to mind

Dolph Lundgren IQ 160
http://s1.postimg.org/pklap9nlb/dolphmaillot3.jpg

Arnold Schwarzenegger IQ 135
http://s27.postimg.org/kqga6l67n/pd_arnold_schwarzenegger_conan_jef_121026_wmain.jp g

[Mortimer]

i dont know how much IQ tells really but i think whites have probably more smart people for whatever reason, most scientists who made great discoveries like the lightning bulb or electricity, etc. where white, also bill gates is white and he made the microsoft chip. the founders of google look jewish though/mideastern and have jewish surnames, i saw it on TV

[Insuperable]

bump

[Seraph of the End]

I didn't know Dolph Lundgren's IQ is 160 O.o. I always thought that he's pretty dumb, and now I see that he's actually a genius.
And to answer the question, yes, I think they do.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It's just a social construct and stuff, nothing to do with the fact that Dolph and Arnold have brains 50% larger than average. Not to mention a much larger forebrain, which doesn't affect IQ much but does affect moral behavior and long term planning.

[Queen B]

Evangelos Katsioulis and Nikos Lygeros
http://www.espressonews.gr/sites/default/files/oldarticles/cats1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ku_XkivSmP8/TDutOFkYuGI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/qfBmBHC_g7o/s320/1705-ligeros-01.jpg

[Insuperable]

Evangelos Katsioulis and Nikos Lygeros
http://www.espressonews.gr/sites/default/files/oldarticles/cats1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ku_XkivSmP8/TDutOFkYuGI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/qfBmBHC_g7o/s320/1705-ligeros-01.jpg

You are not very good when it comes to reading, I see.

[Peyrol]

That's obvious


http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/europe-iq-1279-hajnal.png



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequ ality.png

[Queen B]

You are not very good when it comes to reading, I see.
Ι posted 2 white (not Aryan) with extremely high IQ.
:cool:

[Insuperable]

Ι posted 2 white (not Aryan) with extremely high IQ.
:cool:

It is off topic.

[Queen B]

It is off topic.
Yes, Whites compared to Blacks have higher percentage of IQ.:picard2:

[Insuperable]

Yes, Whites compared to Blacks have higher percentage of IQ.:picard2:

You ok today? I am having trouble following you. So you basically agree because whites have higher IQ on average?

[Queen B]

You ok today? I am having trouble following you. So you basically agree because whites have higher IQ on average?
It's logical to assume, isn't it ?
Whites in general have higher IQ than blacks.
Assuming that they have the same amount of strong people, then they have higher IQ on average for strong people.
Unless the distribution of IQ in Blacks is majorly enequal (strong too clever, not strong , not at all) , then I think it makes sense.

[Insuperable]

It's logical to assume, isn't it ?
Whites in general have higher IQ than blacks.
Assuming that they have the same amount of strong people, then they have higher IQ on average for strong people.
Unless the distribution of IQ in Blacks is majorly enequal (strong too clever, not strong , not at all) , then I think it makes sense.

You have a troo scientific mind.:p Since the world is not only black and white :laugh: you probably think how it is obvious that non-white and non-black people are physically less prominent and how blacks are less intelligent hence white people having higher percentage of strong, high IQ people is a normal thing. Okay, sems you basically agree with the topic.

[Anglojew]

Dolph Lundgren is awesome

Cool site about him http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/dolph-lundgren-trivia/

[Queen B]

You have a troo scientificlaugh:p. Since the world is not only black and white :laugh: you probably think how it is obvious that non-white and non-black people are physically less prominent and how blacks are less intelligent hence white people having higher percentage of strong, high IQ people is a normal thing. Okay, sems you basically agree with the topic.
In my simple thinking, I only include Blacks and white which are in similar body size , indeed :lol: .
Asians - on average - are way less robust,strong and they are physically less prominent, hence I can't really compare such different things.

[1stLightHorse]

Yes, i think white people consistently produce more very high IQ individuals. Collectively, they're not as intelligent as east asians, but the exceptional individuals seem a cut above everyone in terms of creativity and ingenuity, I've mentioned it before in some posts.

[armenianbodyhair]

I don't know what is the curve for white people compared to the curve for other people.

[Kalimtari]

As Daniele argues and most experts agree, the best explanation for the Flynn effect is that in recent decades, each cohort is being exposed to more of the kinds of stimuli that build the sort of cognitive traits IQ tests are designed to measure. If this is true for my children, who were raised in the computer age, versus my parents, who grew up in the age of radio, then we can expect children growing up in the most remote locations or impoverished circumstances in the world’s poorest countries—think of the children of peasant farmers living in homes without electricity and plumbing, perhaps lacking access to newspapers—to be experiencing an environment that is still less generative of these sorts of cognitive skills than the urban American world of my parents’ youth. Children of the rising middle classes in places like Shenzhen, China or Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on the other hand, are being exposed to stimuli similar to those of their contemporary American counterparts. Their inclusion in the tested populations is thus raising their countries’ average IQ test scores year by year.........


Not Smart Enough to Be Rich?
Average IQ is lower in poorer countries. Why?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-the-bad-the-economy/201308/not-smart-enough-be-rich

[Kalimtari]

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-give-me-a-dozen-healthy-infants-well-formed-and-my-own-specified-world-in-which-to-bring-them-up-john-b-watson-311602.jpg

[Hithaeglir]

They have a much higher standard of living,hence the higher IQ.

[Mr.Majestic]

They have a much higher standard of living,hence the higher IQ.

Or could it be that it is the other way around?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Ι posted 2 white (not Aryan) with extremely high IQ.
:cool:

You prove that southern euros are a little slower as well, on average, but that was not the topic of the post.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

As Daniele argues and most experts agree, the best explanation for the Flynn effect is that in recent decades, each cohort is being exposed to more of the kinds of stimuli that build the sort of cognitive traits IQ tests are designed to measure. If this is true for my children, who were raised in the computer age, versus my parents, who grew up in the age of radio, then we can expect children growing up in the most remote locations or impoverished circumstances in the world’s poorest countries—think of the children of peasant farmers living in homes without electricity and plumbing, perhaps lacking access to newspapers—to be experiencing an environment that is still less generative of these sorts of cognitive skills than the urban American world of my parents’ youth. Children of the rising middle classes in places like Shenzhen, China or Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on the other hand, are being exposed to stimuli similar to those of their contemporary American counterparts. Their inclusion in the tested populations is thus raising their countries’ average IQ test scores year by year.........


Not Smart Enough to Be Rich?
Average IQ is lower in poorer countries. Why?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-the-bad-the-economy/201308/not-smart-enough-be-rich

Flynn effect is bullshit, and has long since reversed. The only reason it existed at all was that some initial tests were measuring illiterate people who obviously won't score well.

The idea that 'poorness causes dumbness' is laughable as well. Correlation is not causality, especially when something else correlates as well. Obviously low IQ is causing poorness not the other way around.

Here is the real reality, that covers many studies in painful detail and debunks all the IQ denier crap:

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Basically it's brain size, and it's not affected by diet or environment.

Brain size also dictates how much self control you have, ie keep from raping and stealing or calling in sick to work just because:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123701-Bigger-brain-moar-self-control

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Basically among white people there's also a sort of genius subset that is much rarer in other groups, as well (though asians on average do a little better than europeans). I suspect these are people who (like pictured people with high IQ) have more larger brained classification types.

[Kalimtari]

Flynn effect is bullshit, and has long since reversed. The only reason it existed at all was that some initial tests were measuring illiterate people who obviously won't score well.

The idea that 'poorness causes dumbness' is laughable as well. Correlation is not causality, especially when something else correlates as well. Obviously low IQ is causing poorness not the other way around.

Here is the real reality, that covers many studies in painful detail and debunks all the IQ denier crap:

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Basically it's brain size, and it's not affected by diet or environment.

Brain size also dictates how much self control you have, ie keep from raping and stealing or calling in sick to work just because:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123701-Bigger-brain-moar-self-control

so, basically this author is an idiot?

by Louis Putterman, Ph.D

[SKYNET]

i dont know how much IQ tells really but i think whites have probably more smart people for whatever reason, most scientists who made great discoveries like the lightning bulb or electricity, etc. where white, also bill gates is white and he made the microsoft chip. the founders of google look jewish though/mideastern and have jewish surnames, i saw it on TV




LoL

[rhiannon]

As Daniele argues and most experts agree, the best explanation for the Flynn effect is that in recent decades, each cohort is being exposed to more of the kinds of stimuli that build the sort of cognitive traits IQ tests are designed to measure. If this is true for my children, who were raised in the computer age, versus my parents, who grew up in the age of radio, then we can expect children growing up in the most remote locations or impoverished circumstances in the world’s poorest countries—think of the children of peasant farmers living in homes without electricity and plumbing, perhaps lacking access to newspapers—to be experiencing an environment that is still less generative of these sorts of cognitive skills than the urban American world of my parents’ youth. Children of the rising middle classes in places like Shenzhen, China or Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on the other hand, are being exposed to stimuli similar to those of their contemporary American counterparts. Their inclusion in the tested populations is thus raising their countries’ average IQ test scores year by year.........


Not Smart Enough to Be Rich?
Average IQ is lower in poorer countries. Why?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-the-bad-the-economy/201308/not-smart-enough-be-rich

Ahh. I see you like actual science. :thumb001:

[rhiannon]

Flynn effect is bullshit, and has long since reversed. The only reason it existed at all was that some initial tests were measuring illiterate people who obviously won't score well.

The idea that 'poorness causes dumbness' is laughable as well. Correlation is not causality, especially when something else correlates as well. Obviously low IQ is causing poorness not the other way around.

Here is the real reality, that covers many studies in painful detail and debunks all the IQ denier crap:

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Basically it's brain size, and it's not affected by diet or environment.

Brain size also dictates how much self control you have, ie keep from raping and stealing or calling in sick to work just because:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123701-Bigger-brain-moar-self-control

Just curious....do you abide by the theories taught in Murray's The Bell Curve?

[SKYNET]

That's obvious






http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequ ality.png






http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2575/barf1f1u8rq.jpg

[nose]

iq its a pseudocience

[rhiannon]

Flynn effect is bullshit, and has long since reversed. The only reason it existed at all was that some initial tests were measuring illiterate people who obviously won't score well.

The idea that 'poorness causes dumbness' is laughable as well. Correlation is not causality, especially when something else correlates as well. Obviously low IQ is causing poorness not the other way around.

Here is the real reality, that covers many studies in painful detail and debunks all the IQ denier crap:

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx

Basically it's brain size, and it's not affected by diet or environment.

Brain size also dictates how much self control you have, ie keep from raping and stealing or calling in sick to work just because:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123701-Bigger-brain-moar-self-control

Here is an interesting abstract for you. I don't have a subscription to the site so I can't get the full text, but it comes from a well-respected, peer reviewed Neurology Journal



Brain size, head size, and intelligence quotient in monozygotic twins
M. J. Tramo, MD, W. C. Loftus, BS, T. A. Stukel, PhD, R. L. Green, MD, J. B. Weaver, PhD and M. S. Gazzaniga, PhD
+SHOW AFFILIATIONS
Address correspondence and reprint requests to Dr. Mark Jude Tramo, Dept. of Neurobiology, Harvard Medical School, 220 Longwood Avenue, Boston, MA 02115.
doi: 10.1212/WNL.50.5.1246
Neurology May 1998 vol. 50 no. 5 1246-1252
ABSTRACT

Many studies of monozygotic (MZ) twins have revealed evidence of genetic influences on intellectual functions and their derangement in certain neurologic and psychiatric diseases afflicting the forebrain. Relatively little is known about genetic influences on the size and shape of the human forebrain and its gross morphologic subdivisions. Using MRI and quantitative image analysis techniques, we examined neuroanatomic similarities in MZ twins and their relationship to head size and intelligence quotient (IQ). ANOVA were carried out using each measure as the dependent variable and genotype, birth order, and sex, separately, as between-subject factors. Pairwise correlations between measures were also computed. We found significant effects of genotype but not birth order for the following neuroanatomic measures: forebrain volume (raw, p ≤ 0.0001; normalized by body weight, p = 0.0003); cortical surface area (raw, p = 0.002; normalized, p = 0.001); and callosal area (raw, p ≤ 0.0001; normalized by forebrain volume, p = 0.02). We also found significant effects of genotype but not birth order for head circumference (raw, p = 0.0002; normalized, p ≤ 0.0001) and full-scale IQ (p = 0.001). There were no significant sex effects except for raw head circumference (p = 0.03). Significant correlations were observed among forebrain volume, cortical surface area, and callosal area and between each brain measure and head circumference. There was no significant correlation between IQ and any brain measure or head circumference. These results indicate that: 1) forebrain volume, cortical surface area, and callosal area are similar in MZ twins; and 2) these brain measures are tightly correlated with one another and with head circumference but not with IQ in young, healthy adults.

[armenianbodyhair]

Or could it be that it is the other way around?

No, I think she got it right.

[Dictator]

No, I think she got it right.

I think it is both, like a vicious cycle.

[armenianbodyhair]

I think it is both, like a vicious cycle.

I think it's tailored to people who have a higher living standard, if that makes sense, but yeah I think its a self-feeding cycle.

[Xanthias]

i dont know how much IQ tells really but i think whites have probably more smart people for whatever reason, most scientists who made great discoveries like the lightning bulb or electricity, etc. where white, also bill gates is white and he made the microsoft chip. the founders of google look jewish though/mideastern and have jewish surnames, i saw it on TV

Bill Gates invented nothing, he is actually the worst person who could exist on ths planet.

[Freeroostah]

I still believe that Asians have the highest IQ....

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Here is an interesting abstract for you. I don't have a subscription to the site so I can't get the full text, but it comes from a well-respected, peer reviewed Neurology Journal

Study is obviously wrong, basically. I'll leave it as your homework assignment to figure out why.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I still believe that Asians have the highest IQ....

Only on average. They have much less variation. Women have much less variation than men as well, which is why there's ten times as many men with IQ over 140 as women.

[StonyArabia]

IQ tests are joke and can be gamed. They are the biggest frauds out there.

[Insuperable]

Can someone plz change the title to "Do white people hve highest percentage of physically strong, high IQ people?


I still believe that Asians have the highest IQ....

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Bill Gates invented nothing, he is actually the worst person who could exist on ths planet.

They even try to doctor IQ tests to benefit 'people skills' :lol: Yeah the facebook guy was most smart computer scientist ever :lol:

[1stLightHorse]

I still believe that Asians have the highest IQ....

They do, on average.

We're also talking about standouts though. Individuals that change the world through creativity and ingenuity. And no, that doesn't include kanye west or jay-z.

Guys like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Wernher_von_Braun.jpg

[wvwvw]

The guy with the third highest IQ is black :nod:

3. Philip Emeagwali – IQ = 190

http://palscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Philip-Emeagwali.jpg?d9c344

Emeagwali was born in Akure, Nigeria on 23 August 1954. He dropped out of school in 1967 because of the Nigerian-Biafran war. He became an engineer and computer scientist/geologist who was one of two winners of the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize, a prize from the IEEE, for his use of a Connection Machine supercomputer to help analyze petroleum fields. in 1991, He was studying for his PhD degree, but his thesis was rejected by committee of internal and external examiners and thus he was not awarded the degree.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

so, basically this author is an idiot?

by Louis Putterman, Ph.D

http://www.econ.brown.edu/fac/louis_putterman/

Judge for yourself. First off he is an economics professor :lol:

Most studies on IQ are pure bullshit, funded by groups that have an agenda to promote multiculturalism. I'd hope you could figure them out by some of the hilarious qualified claims they make like "could be" and "might be" etc.

That is not science, that's pure bullshit. You can criticize someone else's paper in such a manner, and should, but you can't make a case for something on the basis it COULD be that way :lol:

What a joke, so much pretend science out there these days.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Study is obviously wrong, basically. I'll leave it as your homework assignment to figure out why.

Actually I'll just say what they did. They adjusted the results for race in order to get the results they wanted, then they compared twins to each other to COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES IN IQ AND BRAIN SIZE BETWEEN TWINS. Which is utterly retarded. If anything it just shows the error in test taking is greater than the error between biological differences in twins with the same genes. Which is incredibly unsurprising.

I'd say basically this study is fraudulent and didn't have any intent to discover anything, but they were angling for the result they wanted for political reasons.

When you compare individuals regardless of race by brain size and IQ, it becomes obvious what an effect it has.

[Alessio]

...


i dont know how much IQ tells really but i think whites have probably more smart people for whatever reason, most scientists who made great discoveries like the lightning bulb or electricity, etc. where white, also bill gates is white and he made the microsoft chip. the founders of google look jewish though/mideastern and have jewish surnames, i saw it on TV

[Prisoner Of Ice]

http://www.econ.brown.edu/fac/louis_putterman/

Judge for yourself. First off he is an economics professor :lol:

Most studies on IQ are pure bullshit, funded by groups that have an agenda to promote multiculturalism. I'd hope you could figure them out by some of the hilarious qualified claims they make like "could be" and "might be" etc.

That is not science, that's pure bullshit. You can criticize someone else's paper in such a manner, and should, but you can't make a case for something on the basis it COULD be that way :lol:

What a joke, so much pretend science out there these days.

Also, he's from Brown university. An econ professor from one of the most liberal studies says race doesn't affect IQ, what a shock. Also, check out his tiny pea brain, I am sure he is totally unbiased. :lol:

[Dictator]

i dont know how much IQ tells really but i think whites have probably more smart people for whatever reason, most scientists who made great discoveries like the lightning bulb or electricity, etc. where white, also bill gates is white and he made the microsoft chip. the founders of google look jewish though/mideastern and have jewish surnames, i saw it on TV

Typical Inquiring Mind. :icon_biggrin:

[1stLightHorse]

The guy with the third highest IQ is black :nod:

3. Philip Emeagwali – IQ = 190


Emeagwali was born in Akure, Nigeria on 23 August 1954. He dropped out of school in 1967 because of the Nigerian-Biafran war. He became an engineer and computer scientist/geologist who was one of two winners of the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize, a prize from the IEEE, for his use of a Connection Machine supercomputer to help analyze petroleum fields. in 1991, He was studying for his PhD degree, but his thesis was rejected by committee of internal and external examiners and thus he was not awarded the degree.

How many like him are there Raine??

[rhiannon]

Study is obviously wrong, basically. I'll leave it as your homework assignment to figure out why.I'm supposed to believe you over a peer-reviewed study?

c'mon now....you can't be right on everything:D

[rhiannon]

Actually I'll just say what they did. They adjusted the results for race in order to get the results they wanted, then they compared twins to each other to COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES IN IQ AND BRAIN SIZE BETWEEN TWINS. Which is utterly retarded. If anything it just shows the error in test taking is greater than the error between biological differences in twins with the same genes. Which is incredibly unsurprising.

I'd say basically this study is fraudulent and didn't have any intent to discover anything, but they were angling for the result they wanted for political reasons.

When you compare individuals regardless of race by brain size and IQ, it becomes obvious what an effect it has.

Post a peer-reviewed study to back your theory up. From a reputable source, preferably. :)

[Insuperable]

The guy with the third highest IQ is black :nod:

3. Philip Emeagwali – IQ = 190

http://palscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Philip-Emeagwali.jpg?d9c344

Emeagwali was born in Akure, Nigeria on 23 August 1954. He dropped out of school in 1967 because of the Nigerian-Biafran war. He became an engineer and computer scientist/geologist who was one of two winners of the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize, a prize from the IEEE, for his use of a Connection Machine supercomputer to help analyze petroleum fields. in 1991, He was studying for his PhD degree, but his thesis was rejected by committee of internal and external examiners and thus he was not awarded the degree.


It occurred to me that Euclid, the greatest mathematician of all time, was neither Greek nor white. It occurred to me that he was probably black and full-blooded Negro

I later learned that many Greek scientists of ancient times were born, raised and educated in Africa. And I still wonder if those Greek scientists were actually black Africans.

Just because some people are born in Alexandria, Africa or people don't know where they are born...:laugh:

[Xanthias]

They even try to doctor IQ tests to benefit 'people skills' :lol: Yeah the facebook guy was most smart computer scientist ever :lol:



so smart he couldn't even progam his own website :picard1: :lol:

[rhiannon]

You guys are so bad lol

[Smaug]

That's obvious


http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/europe-iq-1279-hajnal.png



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequ ality.png

What's the yellow line on the first map?

[Smeagol]

Even if you don't take IQ tests seriously, it's pretty obvious that Whites are the most intelligent race on average, and contributed the most to civilization overall. Mongolids are probably close to as intelligent as Whites though.

[Smeagol]

Just because some people are born in Alexandria, Africa or people don't know where they are born...:laugh:

Those quotes are really stupid, and basically what I would expect from the average darky though. Euclid, and some other Greek scientists of the Hellenistic age were born, and studied in Alexandria, which was not even African, but a Greek city founded in Africa (Egypt). Also, the Egyptians themselves were not blacks.

[Dictator]

Those quotes are really stupid, and basically what I would expect from the average darky though. Euclid, and some other Greek scientists of the Hellenistic age were born, and studied in Alexandria, which was not even African, but a Greek city founded in Africa (Egypt). Also, the Egyptians themselves were not blacks.

Ancient Egyptians were mixed, right?

[Insuperable]

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[Prisoner Of Ice]

Post a peer-reviewed study to back your theory up. From a reputable source, preferably. :)

I already did. I posted a meta study that looks at dozens of peer reviewed studies over many decades.

Obviously you didn't even read the study you posted, or you have no logic ability whatsoever.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean it's right, all the studies in journals are peer reviewed (that's what a journal is) but they don't have same conclusions. Basically like usual you just post some bullshit without even understanding it. If you can't be bothered to actually look into something then keep quiet about it, you do the same retarded shit over and over again without learning, and you don't even know how studies work but you are incredibly arrogant nonetheless so again maybe you should just not post.

[LightHouse89]

That's obvious


http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/europe-iq-1279-hajnal.png



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequ ality.png

what does the red color mean on the map?

[Smeagol]

Ancient Egyptians were mixed, right?

Some of them in the south were, but the majority weren't, going by the skeletal evidence. Southern Egypt was actually heavily affected since medieval times by the negro slave trade of the Arabs, so there are a good amount of quadroon like types there now.

[1stLightHorse]

I completely missed the "physically strong" component of the thread.

I don't know about bodybuilders and powerlifters as such. However, i know of some MMA fighters who are well-educated.

Chuck Liddell: Accountant

http://static0.therichestimages.com/wp-content/uploads/Chuck-Liddell21.jpg

Rich Franklin: Mathematics Teacher

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/673403/rich-franklin.jpg

Shane Carwin: Engineer

http://hercmerc.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/carwin-punch-2.jpg

Jeff Monson: Psychologist

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-afgN9UmNSJg/TfD8wRaOntI/AAAAAAAAE84/zbrLQS9NAsQ/s1600/jeff%2Bmonson%2Bpunch.jpg

[Prisoner Of Ice]

That's obvious


http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/europe-iq-1279-hajnal.png



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequ ality.png

Map is incorrect because it uses estimated IQs. The real result show something similar however, but not as exaggerated and not as favorable for scandinavia.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

The guy with the third highest IQ is black :nod:

3. Philip Emeagwali – IQ = 190

http://palscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Philip-Emeagwali.jpg?d9c344

Emeagwali was born in Akure, Nigeria on 23 August 1954. He dropped out of school in 1967 because of the Nigerian-Biafran war. He became an engineer and computer scientist/geologist who was one of two winners of the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize, a prize from the IEEE, for his use of a Connection Machine supercomputer to help analyze petroleum fields. in 1991, He was studying for his PhD degree, but his thesis was rejected by committee of internal and external examiners and thus he was not awarded the degree.

No one said black man can't be smart or even a genius, it's just less likely. Look how big his head his.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I completely missed the "physically strong" component of the thread.

I don't know about bodybuilders and powerlifters as such. However, i know of some MMA fighters who are well-educated.

Chuck Liddell: Accountant

http://static0.therichestimages.com/wp-content/uploads/Chuck-Liddell21.jpg

Rich Franklin: Mathematics Teacher

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/673403/rich-franklin.jpg

Shane Carwin: Engineer

http://hercmerc.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/carwin-punch-2.jpg

Jeff Monson: Psychologist

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-afgN9UmNSJg/TfD8wRaOntI/AAAAAAAAE84/zbrLQS9NAsQ/s1600/jeff%2Bmonson%2Bpunch.jpg

In general, brain mass and muscle mass are heavily linked.

So this part holds true, as well, though you might not think it obvious. Like with head circumference, it's not easy to eyeball someone and determine this, though. But types like borreby and brunn that are mesolithic leftovers seem to have both in spades.

[Insuperable]

I completely missed the "physically strong" component of the thread.

I don't know about bodybuilders and powerlifters as such. However, i know of some MMA fighters who are well-educated.

Chuck Liddell: Accountant

http://static0.therichestimages.com/wp-content/uploads/Chuck-Liddell21.jpg

Rich Franklin: Mathematics Teacher

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/673403/rich-franklin.jpg

Shane Carwin: Engineer

http://hercmerc.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/carwin-punch-2.jpg

Jeff Monson: Psychologist

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-afgN9UmNSJg/TfD8wRaOntI/AAAAAAAAE84/zbrLQS9NAsQ/s1600/jeff%2Bmonson%2Bpunch.jpg

One more
Tor Troeng, Masters degree in engineering physics
http://s8.postimg.org/sck2m1qx1/20110502110220_MG_22852.jpg
http://s30.postimg.org/4hx7dtwsh/tor_troeng.jpg

[rhiannon]

I already did. I posted a meta study that looks at dozens of peer reviewed studies over many decades.

Obviously you didn't even read the study you posted, or you have no logic ability whatsoever.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean it's right, all the studies in journals are peer reviewed (that's what a journal is) but they don't have same conclusions. Basically like usual you just post some bullshit without even understanding it. If you can't be bothered to actually look into something then keep quiet about it, you do the same retarded shit over and over again without learning, and you don't even know how studies work but you are incredibly arrogant nonetheless so again maybe you should just not post.

I'm done being polite with you.

I tend not to check every stinking link in a person's post...which is why I posted MY abstract in the body of the post, so you could read it. I'm not the only damn poster who skims either so get over yourself already.

You're the most arrogant fuck on this whole site. You cannot disagree with a person in any sort of rational way, which shows a very strong lack of impulse control on your part and basically shows you're no damn different than the people you purport to be superior to. :laugh: I have tried to be nice with you and engage you respectfully...but you're impossible to talk to unless part of your agreement club. Keep this shit up and I'll make good and damn sure you're banned.

I've got more clout here on TA than you do. Don't like my posts? Don't read em'....or don't let the door hit you on your way out, mmkay?

As for my background, it's biology and health sciences. I have a graduate degree, so why don't you shut the fuck up about what I know and what I don't.

[Longbowman]

Yes but only because most British people are white. Stop taking credit for our stuff.

[armenianbodyhair]

Yes but only because most British people are white. Stop taking credit for our stuff.

I doubt it, the British may be higher on average but the continent has also offered up it's fair share of geniuses.

[Longbowman]

I doubt it, the British may be higher on average but the continent has also offered up it's fair share of geniuses.

I don't have time for your blasphemy today, the Continent is just the bit of land between us and the Pacific Ocean.

[LightHouse89]

Yes but only because most British people are white. Stop taking credit for our stuff.

200 years from now they wont be.

[Longbowman]

200 years from now they wont be.

Not that I care, but should an American really be making those jokes?

[gültekin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAwzRY1EIo

[Queen B]

You prove that southern euros are a little slower as well, on average, but that was not the topic of the post.
Well, I proved that I'm not fluent in English, after all it's not my native language and I'm not living in an English-speaking country.
When you will learn to speak Greek, and you will learn to speak it fluently, THEN, you can say to me who is slower or faster.

Can someone plz change the title to "Do white people hve highest percentage of physically strong, high IQ people?
That would be more helpful indeed (*it's changed as a type btw*), because in starters, its misleading :rolleyes2:

You're the most arrogant fuck on this whole site. You cannot disagree with a person in any sort of rational way, which shows a very strong lack of impulse control on your part and basically shows you're no damn different than the people you purport to be superior to. :laugh: I have tried to be nice with you and engage you respectfully...but you're impossible to talk to unless part of your agreement club. Keep this shit up and I'll make good and damn sure you're banned.
I've got more clout here on TA than you do. Don't like my posts? Don't read em'....or don't let the door hit you on your way out, mmkay?
As for my background, it's biology and health sciences. I have a graduate degree, so why don't you shut the fuck up about what I know and what I don't.
Amen, girl !

[Teyrn]

Epic Beard Man must have an IQ off the charts.

[random]

White people have the highest percentage of idiots online :p

[Scholarios]

Living in a country with one of the " highest" IQ I found that IQ is only a matter of social conditioning. I'm not saying there is no biological aspect to it- but wow, some high IQ'ers are pretty dumb and lack all common sense, practical knowledge, and character.

[Fear Fiain]

I don't know what is the curve for white people compared to the curve for other people.
black people prefer white curves. ;)

[Scandalf]

Yes, i think white people consistently produce more very high IQ individuals. Collectively, they're not as intelligent as east asians, but the exceptional individuals seem a cut above everyone in terms of creativity and ingenuity, I've mentioned it before in some posts.

I guess you're right to some extent. White people have a wider spectrum of possibilities but groups of East Asians tend to perform better. It's like the White comes up with the idea, the Japanese boosts it. I remember aircraft carriers invented by the Brits, yet snobbed by them in favor of conservarive traditions and old military thinking. Where the battleship was the best piece in naval warfare. The Japs immediately understood the value of the carriers and their ability to wage war without contact between fleets!

[Scandalf]

I don't have time for your blasphemy today, the Continent is just the bit of land between us and the Pacific Ocean.

One of the most hilarious things I've ever heard is when a storm blocked ferries from Dover to France. "The continentis isolated". You Brits are funny!

[Fear Fiain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAwzRY1EIo

I have started working out like this.
how much weight is that?

[1stLightHorse]

I guess you're right to some extent. White people have a wider spectrum of possibilities but groups of East Asians tend to perform better. It's like the White comes up with the idea, the Japanese boosts it. I remember aircraft carriers invented by the Brits, yet snobbed by them in favor of conservarive traditions and old military thinking. Where the battleship was the best piece in naval warfare. The Japs immediately understood the value of the carriers and their ability to wage war without contact between fleets!

That's an excellent example.

[Scandalf]

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-give-me-a-dozen-healthy-infants-well-formed-and-my-own-specified-world-in-which-to-bring-them-up-john-b-watson-311602.jpg

Just one critique: mathematical ability tends to be innate. Neurological studies showed that the grasp of quantities and visualization of abstract concepts is very hard to teach and assimilate for those who don't have this knack (which is a minority in any case).

[gültekin]

I have started working out like this.
how much weight is that?
62 kg class 187.5 kg :cool:

[Insuperable]

62 kg class 187.5 kg :cool:

What does the thread title say?

[Rudel]

I'm pretty sure that if such studies were conducted in Europe towards the general population before widespread urbanization and litteracy, the results would have been much lower.

The success of a people is first and foremost determined by will, may it be its own or its leaders.

[Empecinado]

Santiago Ramón y Cajal, Nobel prize and bodybuilder:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iAcNqdg_b18/T4hAXkYuy4I/AAAAAAAABZo/K6LCtgF2zX0/s1600/RAMONYCAJALMENCHAKA_4.jpg

[gültekin]

What does the thread title say?
if you looking for the physically strong people, steroid pumpkin film stars can not be an example

[Insuperable]

if you looking for the physically strong people, steroid pumpkin film stars can not be an example

They were as such before they became film stars and there were many examples posted besides two film stars. Arnold admitted using steroids while they were legal back in 70s, but only for maintaining the figure.

Now tell me does the example you posted satisfy the other criteria written in the title besides being physically fit? What is it with people in this thread!?

[gültekin]

They were as such before they became film stars and there were many examples posted besides two film stars. Arnold admitted using steroids while they were legal back in 70s, but only for maintaining the figure.

Now tell me does the example you posted satisfy the other criteria written in the title besides being physically fit? What is it with people in this thread!?
physically fit =\= physically strong

can one of them lift threefold his own weight?

[Insuperable]

physically fit =\= physically strong

can one of them lift threefold his own weight?

Physically fit, strong whatever. Let's leave that one out. What is the other criteria besides being strong and fit and how does your example satisfy it?

[gültekin]

Physically fit, strong whatever. Let's leave that one out. What is the other criteria besides being strong and fit and how does your example satisfy it?
that what the world says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVH0H0Dbpro

[Insuperable]

^ What a moron:picard2:

[gültekin]

^ What a moron:picard2:
don't worry sweety, u can jacking off always to Arnolds pic.s

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Post a peer-reviewed study to back your theory up. From a reputable source, preferably. :)


I'm supposed to believe you over a peer-reviewed study?

c'mon now....you can't be right on everything:D



I already did. I posted a meta study that looks at dozens of peer reviewed studies over many decades.

Obviously you didn't even read the study you posted, or you have no logic ability whatsoever.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean it's right, all the studies in journals are peer reviewed (that's what a journal is) but they don't have same conclusions. Basically like usual you just post some bullshit without even understanding it. If you can't be bothered to actually look into something then keep quiet about it, you do the same retarded shit over and over again without learning, and you don't even know how studies work but you are incredibly arrogant nonetheless so again maybe you should just not post.


I'm done being polite with you.

I tend not to check every stinking link in a person's post...which is why I posted MY abstract in the body of the post, so you could read it. I'm not the only damn poster who skims either so get over yourself already.

You're the most arrogant fuck on this whole site. You cannot disagree with a person in any sort of rational way, which shows a very strong lack of impulse control on your part and basically shows you're no damn different than the people you purport to be superior to. :laugh: I have tried to be nice with you and engage you respectfully...but you're impossible to talk to unless part of your agreement club. Keep this shit up and I'll make good and damn sure you're banned.

I've got more clout here on TA than you do. Don't like my posts? Don't read em'....or don't let the door hit you on your way out, mmkay?

As for my background, it's biology and health sciences. I have a graduate degree, so why don't you shut the fuck up about what I know and what I don't.

I didn't call you any names, or do anything at all to you, really.

You admit yourself you obviously didn't read my post, and you didn't even read the study you posted yourself. Yet you come with some insulting BS and not only make up a straw man but go on a mental rampage, make ub stuff about me to imply I am some neonazi, and then ban me for disagreeing with you as you tell me I have a problem with anyone who disagree. No I don't, I have a problem with people who shitpost retarded crap towards me. You are the one who is talking to me, not the other way. If YOU don't like MY posts then don't read them.

It's incredibly rude to post insulting crap to me without even bothering to read what I write. And as I said before this is not the first time. You have demanded in other threads PEER REVIEWED SOURCES after I already gave them to you. If you don't have enough respect TO READ MY POSTS, then it's simple DON'T REPLY TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I don't like you or respect your intelligence much and I think you post insulting or stupid crap on subjects you don't know anything about without bothering to put the slightest bit of care or fact checking into it. I don't care in the least about your opinion to me, but if you post stupid shit towards me I will respond. Same issue not long ago with another poster that still continues - attack me, then complain when I respond, but won't stop themselves.

Funny how quickly it went from "If I become a mod I will never let my politics or personal feelings come into things" to "I have more clout than you" just because you don't like what I say (spurned on by your own posts), and then banning me. This has to be one of the most ironic posts because you call me an arrogant fuck then ban me for being rude though I did not call you any names. Your posts being so arrogant and rude are the only reason I responded to you like that in the first place, and like I said there's not one insult in there your - posting was crap. You should read my posts. You should check your facts. You shouldn't spam out the same lines over and over in multiple threads. Your posting is what is called "shitposting" and of no value to the discussion at hand. You may as well have said "NO U LOL" for each post.

You also obviously got super angry, then accuse me of being angry. Do you really think you are impartial person who should be a mod? Cause I don't, I think if anyone should have gotten banned, it was you.

In short if you can't read what I post, at least don't make up something to respond to where I am an evil nazi who called you names. Try to stick to reality :lol:

[rhiannon]

^^
I see you're back.
You're not worth my time anymore. Best we just don't interact. You're on my ignore list.
Have a nice day.

[gold_fenix]

Even if you don't take IQ tests seriously, it's pretty obvious that Whites are the most intelligent race on average, and contributed the most to civilization overall. Mongolids are probably close to as intelligent as Whites though.

indeed i think mongoloid aren't really more intelligent than caucasoid but i think they have bigger mental capacity or maybe their societies are based of different shape, between caucasoid and mongoloid we have different form to use the intelligence we think of different form, thing have made by caucsoid have been improved by mongoloid and viceversa, too even when we have different cultures we are compatible , i see with very good eyes to east asian and however i would never date with a chinese or japanese girl for example, once i read that neanderthal have bigger potential of intelligence and each day we know more and more who they weren't more inept that their cousin the cromagnon but they were phisically more powerful

[LightHouse89]

^^
I see you're back.
You're not worth my time anymore. Best we just don't interact. You're on my ignore list.
Have a nice day.

dont be that way rhiannon :( your usually the most patient person here :rolleyes2:

[rhiannon]

dont be that way rhiannon :( your usually the most patient person here :rolleyes2:
I'll be fine in a few days lol :)
You know how it gets sometimes in these forums:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24222920.jpg
http://thewritersadvice.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/angry-cartoon-woman-seated-shooting-computer1.jpg

[portusaus]

I'm pretty sure that if such studies were conducted in Europe towards the general population before widespread urbanization and litteracy, the results would have been much lower.

The success of a people is first and foremost determined by will, may it be its own or its leaders.

Nah, the success is due to our blood. Imagine if France were populated by the sludge that call themselves, "Pakis". Would it be France today? Nay, it would be a shithole. Race is everything.

[Cleitus]

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-give-me-a-dozen-healthy-infants-well-formed-and-my-own-specified-world-in-which-to-bring-them-up-john-b-watson-311602.jpg
We can see how this works :rolleyes:

[Cleitus]

A Race is a Group of People with the same genotype, Genes are everything, genes makes us to what and who we are, im sick of these dumb and senseless argumentation of fanatical humanistic equalists :picard2:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

A Race is a Group of People with the same genotype, Genes are everything, genes makes us to what and who we are, im sick of these dumb and senseless argumentation of fanatical humanistic equalists :picard2:

Bananas are just as good as humans, man. They just live in more of a tree environment.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

They were as such before they became film stars and there were many examples posted besides two film stars. Arnold admitted using steroids while they were legal back in 70s, but only for maintaining the figure.

Now tell me does the example you posted satisfy the other criteria written in the title besides being physically fit? What is it with people in this thread!?

Biologically speaking they are linked, including for african negroes. I think working out changes things a bit and also looking ripped makes you seem more muscular than you are.

[Neanderthal]

As Daniele argues and most experts agree, the best explanation for the Flynn effect is that in recent decades, each cohort is being exposed to more of the kinds of stimuli that build the sort of cognitive traits IQ tests are designed to measure. If this is true for my children, who were raised in the computer age, versus my parents, who grew up in the age of radio, then we can expect children growing up in the most remote locations or impoverished circumstances in the world’s poorest countries—think of the children of peasant farmers living in homes without electricity and plumbing, perhaps lacking access to newspapers—to be experiencing an environment that is still less generative of these sorts of cognitive skills than the urban American world of my parents’ youth. Children of the rising middle classes in places like Shenzhen, China or Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on the other hand, are being exposed to stimuli similar to those of their contemporary American counterparts. Their inclusion in the tested populations is thus raising their countries’ average IQ test scores year by year.........


Not Smart Enough to Be Rich?
Average IQ is lower in poorer countries. Why?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-good-the-bad-the-economy/201308/not-smart-enough-be-rich

The peak of intelligence of humanity was probably 10k to 6k years ago. Basically everything we have and use right now come either from Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome and other tribes of antiquity and they developed everything pretty much from 0.

[Neanderthal]

IQ tests are joke and can be gamed. They are the biggest frauds out there.

Yeah man, I agree. Pokemon skills are more reliable and also empathy.

[Han Cholo]

IMO advanced intelligence is a trait most northern eurasians (europeans, middle easterners, native americans, east asians) have either in an apparent or latent manner. It seems to be only negroids and very archaic, early Eurasians mixed with other hominids that lack it completely.

"Whites" are more accomplished now but you can't predict the future and assume this will last forever and some East Asians are unable to take the place.

[Kalimtari]

The peak of intelligence of humanity was probably 10k to 6k years ago. Basically everything we have and use right now come either from Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome and other tribes of antiquity and they developed everything pretty much from 0.

I see it as many peaks during our path (break throughs in science fe)

[Longbowman]

The peak of intelligence of humanity was probably 10k to 6k years ago. Basically everything we have and use right now come either from Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome and other tribes of antiquity and they developed everything pretty much from 0.

Yes, we are all inferior to MENA wogs from literally just after the ice age ended.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

White people have the highest percentage of idiots online :p

Really?

Have you been to the Topix African American forum?

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam

Here are some very smart threads by the African Americans.

American Blacks Are The Real Jews

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TVFOT8AB0GRF49NJS


White Devil Roundup

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T4Q1GC7ILH15AJKJR

Trying to stop the birth of the BLACK MESSIAH

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TOEG8LRIF2KDIKQ4P

Even the Rhesus monkey hate white people

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TSFB6VKQ5U35PELO7

WHY DO WHiTE PEOPLE TREAT DOGS LIKE HUMANS?

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TJD3JDGN0G5QMSLQR

[StonyArabia]

Yeah man, I agree. Pokemon skills are more reliable and also empathy.

Is this supposed to me mock me, but it's the truth IQ test can be gamed and they are frauds for the most part. If you see the pattern you can hammer the fuck out of the IQ test LOL.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

The guy with the third highest IQ is black :nod:

3. Philip Emeagwali – IQ = 190

http://palscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Philip-Emeagwali.jpg?d9c344



Emeagwali was born in Akure, Nigeria on 23 August 1954. He dropped out of school in 1967 because of the Nigerian-Biafran war. He became an engineer and computer scientist/geologist who was one of two winners of the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize, a prize from the IEEE, for his use of a Connection Machine supercomputer to help analyze petroleum fields. in 1991, He was studying for his PhD degree, but his thesis was rejected by committee of internal and external examiners and thus he was not awarded the degree.

That is sure seems like a legit number.

190?

Not 189 or 191?

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Yes but only because most British people are white. Stop taking credit for our stuff.

There are a lot of inventions & innovations by Europeans who are not British.

The Germans & Russians have been producing superior technology over the British for some time now.

Central Europeans such as Germans & Polish were producing more great intellect before Britain.

Britain is just a fluke.

Central Europe is the real European core of production.

[Longbowman]

There are a lot of inventions & innovations by Europeans who are not British.

The Germans & Russians have been producing superior technology over the British for some time now.

Central Europeans such as Germans & Polish were producing more great intellect before Britain.

Britain is just a fluke.

Central Europe is the real European core of production.

You're just jealous.

[Neanderthal]

Yes, we are all inferior to MENA wogs from literally just after the ice age ended.

You are seriously deluded if you think it takes more skill to built a space craft in this age than to domesticate crops and invent advanced architecture techniques 7k years ago from zero. Sorry bro, but this is the truth. What takes more skill and intelligence? Invent bow an arrow 40-60k years ago without previous knowledge or to build some random Android app in this age? :lol:

[SobieskisavedEurope]

You're just jealous.

Just your Jew tactic to divide Europe?

[Longbowman]

Just your Jew tactic to divide Europe?

Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: Poland is the best.
Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: You're a Jew and you want to divide Europe.

[Longbowman]

You are seriously deluded if you think it takes more skill to built a space craft in this age than to domesticate crops and invent advanced architecture techniques 7k years ago from zero. Sorry bro, but this is the truth. What takes more skill and intelligence? Invent bow an arrow 40-60k years ago without previous knowledge or to build some random Android app in this age? :lol:

No, not at all; but what challenges remain to us? We are not any stupider, we just have less to surmount. Android apps? No, but the telephone, the camera? Yes.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: Poland is the best.
Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: You're a Jew and you want to divide Europe.

I think you are a Jew who is trying to instigate European on European hatred & division.

[Neanderthal]

No, not at all; but what challenges remain to us? We are not any stupider, we just have less to surmount. Android apps? No, but the telephone, the camera? Yes.

Yes we are dumber. Just look at present day logic: 'Animal slaughter is inhumane!, therefore we all should turn vegetarian!', instead of thinking, 'well, we are too fucking many in this world, let's start some birth control and eugenics, that would reduce drastically the demand for meat, ergo, will reduce industrialized slaughter process.' No, I think that would be too much to ask for modern 'sapiens sapiens' to deduce. Another example, 'let's no expose children to degeneracy, let's lock them up and make them go to bed to 9', instead of thinking, 'well yes, we could ban gay parades that show freaks swinging their dicks around in carnival outfit and ban inane content full of pornography on TV, adults can get pay peer view anyway.' Nay man, modern day 'logic' is nothing but the cognitive process of overgrow kids. Always looking for the hardest and most idiotic solution possible.

And yes, you're right, there's not much left to invent, but we could start improving as species, instead of being so fucking greedy and retarded. That would show modern man is indeed 'superior.'

[SobieskisavedEurope]

You are seriously deluded if you think it takes more skill to built a space craft in this age than to domesticate crops and invent advanced architecture techniques 7k years ago from zero. Sorry bro, but this is the truth. What takes more skill and intelligence? Invent bow an arrow 40-60k years ago without previous knowledge or to build some random Android app in this age? :lol:

The most sophisticated invention of the ancient world the invention of the wheel seems ot have come from Poland as seen in the Bronocice pot.

[Kalimtari]

Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: Poland is the best.
Longbowman: Britain is the best.
Retard: You're a Jew and you want to divide Europe.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5253748736/h730F9968/

[Longbowman]

Yes we are dumber. Just look at present day logic: 'Animal slaughter is inhumane!, therefore we all should turn vegetarian!', instead of thinking, 'well, we are too fucking many in this world, let's start some birth control and eugenics, that would reduce drastically the demand for meat, ergo, will reduce industrialized slaughter process.' No, I think that would be too much to ask for modern 'sapiens sapiens' to deduce. Another example, 'let's no expose children to degeneracy, let's lock them up and make them go to bed to 9', instead of thinking, 'well yes, we could ban gay parades that show freaks swinging their dicks around in carnival outfit and ban inane content full of pornography on TV, adults can get pay peer view anyway.' Nay man, modern day 'logic' is nothing but the cognitive process of overgrow kids. Always looking for the hardest and most idiotic solution possible.

And yes, you're right, there's not much left to invent, but we could start improving as species, instead of being so fucking greedy and retarded. That would show modern man is indeed 'superior.'

But you and I don't think that way, see? In ancient times most people were doubtless stupid, as today, with one or two elites making the changes. No difference :)

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Yes we are dumber. Just look at present day logic: 'Animal slaughter is inhumane!, therefore we all should turn vegetarian!', instead of thinking, 'well, we are too fucking many in this world, let's start some birth control and eugenics, that would reduce drastically the demand for meat, ergo, will reduce industrialized slaughter process.' No, I think that would be too much to ask for modern 'sapiens sapiens' to deduce. Another example, 'let's no expose children to degeneracy, let's lock them up and make them go to bed to 9', instead of thinking, 'well yes, we could ban gay parades that show freaks swinging their dicks around in carnival outfit and ban inane content full of pornography on TV, adults can get pay peer view anyway.' Nay man, modern day 'logic' is nothing but the cognitive process of overgrow kids. Always looking for the hardest and most idiotic solution possible.

And yes, you're right, there's not much left to invent, but we could start improving as species, instead of being so fucking greedy and retarded. That would show modern man is indeed 'superior.'

Europeans & some East Asians have stopped having so many kids while the third world overpopulates with their modest IQ's.

[Longbowman]

The most sophisticated invention of the ancient world the invention of the wheel seems ot have come from Poland as seen in the Bronocice pot.

Literally everything you say is stupid.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Literally everything you say is stupid.

Coming from the Jew that supports gun control.

[Longbowman]

Coming from the Jew that supports gun control.

One more and I'll ban you.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

One more and I'll ban you.

Is it a crime to acknowledge that you are a Jew?

[Longbowman]

Is it a crime to acknowledge that you are a Jew?

No, but using it as an insult for no reason is.

[SobieskisavedEurope]

No, but using it as an insult for no reason is.

What about your insulting me as a retard & saying that everything I say is stupid?

When are you going to ban yourself?

[Longbowman]

What about your insulting me as a retard & saying that everything I say is stupid?

When are you going to ban yourself?

You started it. I'm not going to roll over and take it from you. But ultimately 'you're stupid' is not the same as constant racial provocation.

[Neanderthal]

What about your insulting me as a retard & saying that everything I say is stupid?

When are you going to ban yourself?

Hypothetically speaking bro; what would you do if you found out that genetically you are, in reality Polish Jew?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Yeah man, I agree. Pokemon skills are more reliable and also empathy.

If my RPG and strategy game skills count, holy cow I could be the greatest genius of all time. :lol:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

You are seriously deluded if you think it takes more skill to built a space craft in this age than to domesticate crops and invent advanced architecture techniques 7k years ago from zero. Sorry bro, but this is the truth. What takes more skill and intelligence? Invent bow an arrow 40-60k years ago without previous knowledge or to build some random Android app in this age? :lol:

If you pay attention to the moon landing development, I mean watch it really closely you will get a good laugh. The whole lander idea was a huge deal for them and took years of calculating before they came to it. However, the idea had existed for many decades, heinlein for example envisioned this and I don't think he was the first. All these supposedly top minds and it doesn't come up for several years. Same thing for implosion and nukes.

This kind of crap reminds me of my own work experiences. Like the first meeting would be "should we bring the mountain to us or go to the mountain" and then there's months of arguing where 99% of the people latch on to the impossible and insane option. I am betting 20k years ago the people who think the crazy idea would die in the woods before they reached adulthood. Any wilderness situation I've been in with people has reinforced this.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Yes we are dumber. Just look at present day logic: 'Animal slaughter is inhumane!, therefore we all should turn vegetarian!', instead of thinking, 'well, we are too fucking many in this world, let's start some birth control and eugenics, that would reduce drastically the demand for meat, ergo, will reduce industrialized slaughter process.' No, I think that would be too much to ask for modern 'sapiens sapiens' to deduce. Another example, 'let's no expose children to degeneracy, let's lock them up and make them go to bed to 9', instead of thinking, 'well yes, we could ban gay parades that show freaks swinging their dicks around in carnival outfit and ban inane content full of pornography on TV, adults can get pay peer view anyway.' Nay man, modern day 'logic' is nothing but the cognitive process of overgrow kids. Always looking for the hardest and most idiotic solution possible.

And yes, you're right, there's not much left to invent, but we could start improving as species, instead of being so fucking greedy and retarded. That would show modern man is indeed 'superior.'

There's plenty to invent and many projects that could improve the world, such as damning the mediterranean and creating inland seas in africa and draining its jungle areas.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

The most sophisticated invention of the ancient world the invention of the wheel seems ot have come from Poland as seen in the Bronocice pot.

I don't think it's the most sophisticated. Ancients would have to have had sophisticated math and astronomy knowledge to make megalithic structures for example.

[Hong Key]

The Uniqueness of Western Civilization
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?115514-The-Uniqueness-of-Western-Civilization&p=2417349&viewfull=1#post2417349

[Kalimtari]

Yes we are dumber. Just look at present day logic: 'Animal slaughter is inhumane!, therefore we all should turn vegetarian!', instead of thinking, 'well, we are too fucking many in this world, let's start some birth control and eugenics, that would reduce drastically the demand for meat, ergo, will reduce industrialized slaughter process.' No, I think that would be too much to ask for modern 'sapiens sapiens' to deduce. Another example, 'let's no expose children to degeneracy, let's lock them up and make them go to bed to 9', instead of thinking, 'well yes, we could ban gay parades that show freaks swinging their dicks around in carnival outfit and ban inane content full of pornography on TV, adults can get pay peer view anyway.' Nay man, modern day 'logic' is nothing but the cognitive process of overgrow kids. Always looking for the hardest and most idiotic solution possible.

And yes, you're right, there's not much left to invent, but we could start improving as species, instead of being so fucking greedy and retarded. That would show modern man is indeed 'superior.'

+1

[Kalimtari]

No, not at all; but what challenges remain to us? We are not any stupider, we just have less to surmount. Android apps? No, but the telephone, the camera? Yes.

oh, yes we are, bro


Are the comforts of modern life making humans dumber?
Gerald Crabtree, a scientist at Stanford University, counterintuitively argues that our ancient ancestors were much smarter than we are

https://theweek.com/article/index/236309/are-the-comforts-of-modern-life-making-humans-dumber

[Kalimtari]

I don't think it's the most sophisticated. Ancients would have to have had sophisticated math and astronomy knowledge to make megalithic structures for example.

and to optimize agricultural skills ofc


btw, first discovered wheel is not from Poland but (also not from Albania lol):

WORLD'S OLDEST WHEEL FOUND IN SLOVENIA

March 2003

http://www.ukom.gov.si/uploads/RTEmagicC_Barje_kolo_nl-0029.jpg.jpghttp://www.ukom.gov.si/uploads/RTEmagicC_Barje_Kolo_s-0437.jpg.jpg
http://www.mgml.si/images/iman/virtual_picture.022.jpghttp://www.kolo5200.si/images/field/t4_1364.naslovna4.jpg


http://www.ukom.gov.si/en/media_relations/background_information/culture/worlds_oldest_wheel_found_in_slovenia/

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Interesting. It looks like basically everything in bronze age times was invented in area around west balkans. Not a result I would have expected but that's more and more what archaeology shows.

[Kalimtari]

Interesting. It looks like basically everything in bronze age times was invented in area around west balkans. Not a result I would have expected but that's more and more what archaeology shows.

I'd rather call it Black Sea macro region


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Diffusion_m%C3%A9tallurgie.png

The European Bronze Age is characterized by bronze artifacts and the use of bronze implements. The regional Bronze Age succeeds the Neolithic. It starts with the Aegean Bronze Age in 3200 BC[1] (succeeded by the Beaker culture), and spans the entire 2nd millennium BC (Unetice culture, Tumulus culture, Terramare culture, Urnfield culture and Lusatian culture) in Northern Europe, lasting until c. 600 BC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age_Europe

[Prisoner Of Ice]

the earliest bronze artifacts are now placed in serbia and earliest farming in croatia and now wheel in slovenia. So that map is a bit off. The idea this stuff came from east to west now looks more and more unlikely. Which makes sense because of the distribution and spread of major cities anyway. Would greeks be colonizing anatolia if anatolia were technically superior to them? Doubtful.

[Kalimtari]

the earliest bronze artifacts are now placed in serbia and earliest farming in croatia and now wheel in slovenia. So that map is a bit off. The idea this stuff came from east to west now looks more and more unlikely. Which makes sense because of the distribution and spread of major cities anyway. Would greeks be colonizing anatolia if anatolia were technically superior to them? Doubtful.

you're wrong on that one:

One of earliest farming sites in Europe discovered
Date:
April 16, 2012
Source:
University of Cincinnati
Summary:
New findings show that Vashtëmi, located in southeastern Albania, was occupied around 6,500 cal BC, making it one of the earliest farming sites in Europe. The location of early sites such as Vashtëmi near wetland edges suggests that the earliest farmers in Europe preferentially selected such resource-rich settings to establish pioneer farming villages.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120416113013.htm

[Prisoner Of Ice]

There's farming sites up to 9500 years ago.

[Longbowman]

the earliest bronze artifacts are now placed in serbia and earliest farming in croatia and now wheel in slovenia. So that map is a bit off. The idea this stuff came from east to west now looks more and more unlikely. Which makes sense because of the distribution and spread of major cities anyway. Would greeks be colonizing anatolia if anatolia were technically superior to them? Doubtful.

This is a bit silly. Farming and metallurgy date to Anatolia but power shifts. Once, Italy was the most powerful state there was, but by 1800 it had fractured with foreign powers colonising much of it.

[Kalimtari]

There's farming sites up to 9500 years ago.

European Neolithic Farmers Used Fertilizers 8,000 Years Ago, Study Shows


Jul 16, 2013 by Sci-News.com


According to an international team of researchers led by Dr Amy Bogaard from the University of Oxford, Europe’s first farmers manured and watered their crops as early as 6,000 BC.

Scientists have always assumed that manure wasn’t used as a fertilizer until Iron Age and Roman times. However, the team reporting in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences has found enriched levels of nitrogen-15 – a stable isotope abundant in manure – in the charred cereal grains and pulse seeds taken from 13 Neolithic sites around Europe: Koufovouno in Greece; Slatina, Kapitan Dimitrievo, Azmak and Karanovo in Bulgaria; Ecsegfalva in Hungary; Vaihingen and Hornstaad-Hörnle IA in Germany; Sarup, Skaghorn and Damsbo in Denmark; Hambledon Hill and Lismore Fields in UK.


http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/science-neolithic-farmers-fertilizers-01232.html

[Kalimtari]

Tracing the Origin and Spread of Agriculture in Europe

Abstract

The origins of early farming and its spread to Europe have been the subject of major interest for some time. The main controversy today is over the nature of the Neolithic transition in Europe: the extent to which the spread was, for the most part, indigenous and animated by imitation (cultural diffusion) or else was driven by an influx of dispersing populations (demic diffusion). We analyze the spatiotemporal dynamics of the transition using radiocarbon dates from 735 early Neolithic sites in Europe, the Near East, and Anatolia. We compute great-circle and shortest-path distances from each site to 35 possible agricultural centers of origin—ten are based on early sites in the Middle East and 25 are hypothetical locations set at 5° latitude/longitude intervals. We perform a linear fit of distance versus age (and vice versa) for each center. For certain centers, high correlation coefficients (R > 0.8) are obtained. This implies that a steady rate or speed is a good overall approximation for this historical development. The average rate of the Neolithic spread over Europe is 0.6–1.3 km/y (95% confidence interval). This is consistent with the prediction of demic diffusion (0.6–1.1 km/y). An interpolative map of correlation coefficients, obtained by using shortest-path distances, shows that the origins of agriculture were most likely to have occurred in the northern Levantine/Mesopotamian area.


http://www.plosbiology.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.0030410.g003&representation=PNG_I

http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0030410

[Kalimtari]

^^

Gobekli Tepe site, anybody?


On the track of the world’s first farmer

The very first farmer may have lived in a barren mountain landscape in Turkey over 10,000 years ago.

http://sciencenordic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/620x/tyrkiaNy-kart_None.jpg

http://sciencenordic.com/track-world%E2%80%99s-first-farmer

[Prisoner Of Ice]

It could be but there's also signs of grain useage up to 20k years ago in north africa and levant, which is not quite the same as fully domesticated grain.

[Kalimtari]

It could be but there's also signs of grain useage up to 20k years ago in north africa and levant, which is not quite the same as fully domesticated grain.

source, please :)

[Prisoner Of Ice]

source, please :)

The wikipedia page for agriculture origins mentions it for levant (and used to for north africa).

[Kalimtari]

The wikipedia page for agriculture origins mentions it for levant (and used to for north africa).

found this:


Farming started in several places at once: Origins of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent
Date:
July 5, 2013
Source:
Universitaet Tübingen
Summary:
For decades archaeologists have been searching for the origins of agriculture. Their findings indicated that early plant domestication took place in the western and northern Fertile Crescent. In a new study, researchers demonstrate that the foothills of the Zagros Mountains of Iran in the eastern Fertile Crescent also served as a key center for early domestication.

http://images.sciencedaily.com/2013/07/130705101629-large.jpg


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130705101629.htm

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Also, it turns out neanderthals boiled grains and ate them. It's kind of a grey area as to what constitutes farming and unless you find something like a wheat thresher it's hard to know if it really counts as domesticated.

My guess though, is that some animals like goats and chickens have been domesticated 50k years or more, and some level of gardening on a small scale has been around basically forever.

[Kalimtari]

Also, it turns out neanderthals boiled grains and ate them. It's kind of a grey area as to what constitutes farming and unless you find something like a wheat thresher it's hard to know if it really counts as domesticated.

My guess though, is that some animals like goats and chickens have been domesticated 50k years or more, and some level of gardening on a small scale has been around basically forever.

Investigating the Diet of Neanderthals
By Stephanie Guzik, (Volunteer Science Writer)



Although no one can be sure what caused the Neanderthals to disappear, many theories have been proposed. One of those theories suggests that Neanderthals had a very focused diet. This theory stems from chemical studies of their bones which suggest they ate more protein than cave bears from the same sites. In addition, the majority of animal bones found in and around Neanderthal sites have tended to be from large prey, like horses and reindeer. Limited evidence of plant consumption has lead some scientists to believe that the Neanderthals only ate meat and therefore suffered because of their limited meat-based diet.
However, recent research from Smithsonian Archaeobiologist Dolores Piperno and her colleagues, Amanda Henry and Alison Brooks, has challenged and all-but laid to rest this large-game-only theory. Their research was published in January 2011 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.......

http://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/_img/dentalCalculus.pnghttp://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/_img/starchesCompared.png


http://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Investigating the Diet of Neanderthals
By Stephanie Guzik, (Volunteer Science Writer)



Although no one can be sure what caused the Neanderthals to disappear, many theories have been proposed. One of those theories suggests that Neanderthals had a very focused diet. This theory stems from chemical studies of their bones which suggest they ate more protein than cave bears from the same sites. In addition, the majority of animal bones found in and around Neanderthal sites have tended to be from large prey, like horses and reindeer. Limited evidence of plant consumption has lead some scientists to believe that the Neanderthals only ate meat and therefore suffered because of their limited meat-based diet.
However, recent research from Smithsonian Archaeobiologist Dolores Piperno and her colleagues, Amanda Henry and Alison Brooks, has challenged and all-but laid to rest this large-game-only theory. Their research was published in January 2011 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.......

http://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/_img/dentalCalculus.pnghttp://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/_img/starchesCompared.png


http://www.mnh.si.edu/highlight/Neanderthal_Diet/

This is wrong/old speculation. Neanderthals had a very widely varied diet, and made boiled grain mash of some kind. Neanderthals even made medicinal tea.

There's been several links to it here, I just don't feel like finding them.

Wikipedia is a bit old and biased when it comes to agriculture origins as well.

[Kalimtari]

This is wrong/old speculation. Neanderthals had a very widely varied diet, and made boiled grain mash of some kind. Neanderthals even made medicinal tea.

There's been several links to it here, I just don't feel like finding them.

Wikipedia is a bit old and biased when it comes to agriculture origins as well.

ok

[rhiannon]

Of interest to the topic of strong individuals and high IQs...I'd be curious to know the average IQ of say...strongmen competitors in the past ten years. That competition is nearly always lily-white lol.

You'd need a decent sample size to get any reliable data.

Does anyone know anything about it?

[Neanderthal]

Of interest to the topic of strong individuals and high IQs...I'd be curious to know the average IQ of say...strongmen competitors in the past ten years. That competition is nearly always lily-white lol.

You'd need a decent sample size to get any reliable data.

Does anyone know anything about it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtbLy9CnGtk

All stereotypes are right to some degree, hence they became stereotypes. Body builder types are often not that smart, power lifters in the other hand, appear to be more cultured most of the time, but they still have this brutish attitude.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Going by the list below, the top nations are some Asian, but the majority are European. As expected, the bottom are African niggers. No wonder the most advance thing niggers have built in the last few thousand years are mud huts!


Countries With The Highest Average IQ
Rank Country Average IQ
1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
10 Switzerland 101
12 Belgium 100
12 China 100
12 New Zealand 100
12 United Kingdom 100
16 Hungary 99
16 Poland 99
16 Spain 99
19 Australia 98
19 Denmark 98
19 France 98
19 Mongolia 98
19 Norway 98
19 United States 98
25 Canada 97
25 Czech Republic 97
25 Finland 97
Countries With The Lowest Average IQ
1 Equatorial Guinea 59
2 Ethiopia 63
3 Sierra Leone 64
4 Democratic Republic of the Congo 65
5 Zimbabwe 66
5 Guinea 66
7 Nigeria 67
8 Ghana 71
9 Tanzania 72
9 Sudan 72

[FeederOfRavens]

Going by the list below, the top nations are some Asian, but the majority are European. As expected, the bottom are African niggers. No wonder the most advance thing niggers have built in the last few thousand years are mud huts!


Countries With The Highest Average IQ
Rank Country Average IQ
1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
10 Switzerland 101
12 Belgium 100
12 China 100
12 New Zealand 100
12 United Kingdom 100
16 Hungary 99
16 Poland 99
16 Spain 99
19 Australia 98
19 Denmark 98
19 France 98
19 Mongolia 98
19 Norway 98
19 United States 98
25 Canada 97
25 Czech Republic 97
25 Finland 97
Countries With The Lowest Average IQ
1 Equatorial Guinea 59
2 Ethiopia 63
3 Sierra Leone 64
4 Democratic Republic of the Congo 65
5 Zimbabwe 66
5 Guinea 66
7 Nigeria 67
8 Ghana 71
9 Tanzania 72
9 Sudan 72

You're so obsessed with blacks you look retarded.

[armenianbodyhair]

I don't know by my IQ is about twice what I can bench, which is not very impressive in either case.

[Ctwentysevenj]

You're so obsessed with blacks you look retarded.
Yes very retarded

[robert_thompson]

Black people are much stronger than white people. Asians and jews are A LOT smarter.. this thread is such a failture:picard2:

[LightHouse89]

Because white people invented the modern world.....sorry it had to be said.

[Sakis]

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/now-scientists-want-to-tell-you-that-iq-doesnt-exist/#!bKsgKk

[Balmung]

Depends on what you mean by physical strength. Upperbody strength possibly, blacks build muscle faster and dominate in sports with heavy leg work. Polynesians probably have the most dense bones in the world. Arguably the most robust people in the world as well. Its pretty much impossible to find a frail non robust Polynesian even in large crowds of them, all are robust. Kid on the right is only 13.

http://s27.postimg.org/wj3hlcn6r/poly2.jpg

[Albo Fire]

Whites are build for wrestling and weight heavy materials much easier comparable to other races due more slow twitch muscles than Blacks whose have more fast twitch muscles also upperbody of whites is somewhat more robust build if individual works out.

[Manifest Destiny]

I didn't know Dolph Lundgren's IQ is 160 O.o. I always thought that he's pretty dumb, and now I see that he's actually a genius.
And to answer the question, yes, I think they do.

Lundgren doesn't look or sound (in his movies) like a genius. A few years ago I found out that he has a Master's Degree in chemical engineering and I was very surprised.

[Han Cholo]

Lundgren doesn't look or sound (in his movies) like a genius. A few years ago I found out that he has a Master's Degree in chemical engineering and I was very surprised.

He himself has said the 160 IQ cypher is exaggerated. No doubt he's pretty intelligent though: Chemist, stunt, actor, martial arts fighter and even musician (though he's quite mediocre at this if I recall correctly.)

I'd say he's in the +130 threshold, but he's no Hawkins though.

[Dictator]

He himself has said the 160 IQ cypher is exaggerated. No doubt he's pretty intelligent though: Chemist, stunt, actor, martial arts fighter and even musician (though he's quite mediocre at this if I recall correctly.)

Actually his IQ is 155.

:rolleyes:

[Amud]

He himself has said the 160 IQ cypher is exaggerated. No doubt he's pretty intelligent though: Chemist, stunt, actor, martial arts fighter and even musician (though he's quite mediocre at this if I recall correctly.)

I'd say he's in the +130 threshold, but he's no Hawkins though.

Just based on his appearance, that 160 figure always surprised me. He's definitely robust and highly progressive, so I would expect a high IQ, but he has too much of a generic Nordic look without any really special features. He doesn't look like a super genius to me.

Tesla
http://i.imgur.com/jmEGlNO.jpg

Newton
http://www.huntsearch.gla.ac.uk/archimages/C45.jpg

Da Vinci
http://therecordingrevolution.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/da-vinci-profile.jpg

Darwin
https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Darwin_portrait.gif

[Stimpy]

Just based on his appearance, that 160 figure always surprised me. He's definitely robust and highly progressive, so I would expect a high IQ, but he has too much of a generic Nordic look without any really special features. He doesn't look like a super genius to me.
He still has both an extremely wide and long head with very deep eye sockets. He's 196cm tall and built like a giant and his head still looks big on him.

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11000000/dolph-dolph-lundgren-11015991-333-499.jpg

[armenianbodyhair]

Just based on his appearance, that 160 figure always surprised me. He's definitely robust and highly progressive, so I would expect a high IQ, but he has too much of a generic Nordic look without any really special features. He doesn't look like a super genius to me.

Tesla
http://i.imgur.com/jmEGlNO.jpg

Newton
http://www.huntsearch.gla.ac.uk/archimages/C45.jpg

Da Vinci
http://therecordingrevolution.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/da-vinci-profile.jpg

Darwin
https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Darwin_portrait.gif
That could have more to do with the time they lived in than their intelligence. I know very intelligent people who look very normal and also ones that have strange features. I really don't see a correlation.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Just based on his appearance, that 160 figure always surprised me. He's definitely robust and highly progressive, so I would expect a high IQ, but he has too much of a generic Nordic look without any really special features. He doesn't look like a super genius to me.

Tesla
http://i.imgur.com/jmEGlNO.jpg

Newton
http://www.huntsearch.gla.ac.uk/archimages/C45.jpg

Da Vinci
http://therecordingrevolution.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/da-vinci-profile.jpg

Darwin
https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Darwin_portrait.gif

There's a ton of people that look like tesla in the balkans. His death mask looks a lot like ancient hittites though, interesting. I'd say most of the famous scientists seem to be borrebies or dinaric, with some baltid thrown in. Considering borreby and baltid seem more and more rare, no big surprise our scientific progress has gone to shit.

[Amud]

There's a ton of people that look like tesla in the balkans. His death mask looks a lot like ancient hittites though, interesting. I'd say most of the famous scientists seem to be borrebies or dinaric, with some baltid thrown in. Considering borreby and baltid seem more and more rare, no big surprise our scientific progress has gone to shit.

I wouldn't say Tesla was a real Dinaric

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRU7UYBKtLni0KWSOdWDEoSf8jKNapjr uhXJ0fJTq6j7ViywFRj
http://greatmindsoftheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Nikola-Tesla-4.jpg

He looks Dinaric from the front, but unlike Dinarics which have very short heads, his head looks quite long as well. I would definitely say he has a special phenotype. Note how his eyes are extremely deep set and how angular his features are, as well as the brow ridge and cranial ridges. He's not your run of the mill planoccipital pinhead type that's common in the Balkans, that's for sure. I'm not even sure if he's brachycephalic, at least not strongly. His forehead is definitely very wide, but his skull length seems pretty impressive too.

I don't associate Baltids with great science either. Borrebies, sure. However, I don't think the great scientists usually look like normal phenotypes at all. They have extreme and unique-looking features. Newton and Darwin seem Borreby to some extent, though.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I wouldn't say Tesla was a real Dinaric

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRU7UYBKtLni0KWSOdWDEoSf8jKNapjr uhXJ0fJTq6j7ViywFRj
http://greatmindsoftheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Nikola-Tesla-4.jpg

He looks Dinaric from the front, but unlike Dinarics which have very short heads, his head looks quite long as well. I would definitely say he has a special phenotype. Note how his eyes are extremely deep set and how angular his features are, as well as the brow ridge and cranial ridges. He's not your run of the mill planoccipital pinhead type that's common in the Balkans, that's for sure. I'm not even sure if he's brachycephalic, at least not strongly. His forehead is definitely very wide, but his skull length seems pretty impressive too.

I don't associate Baltids with great science either. Borrebies, sure. However, I don't think the great scientists usually look like normal phenotypes at all. They have extreme and unique-looking features. Newton and Darwin seem Borreby to some extent, though.

In that last pic it is more clear he's a bit unusual. He actually looks a lot like my grandfather did before he passed away.

I don't think that I have an immediately obviously unusual phenotype (though there's lots of unusual details and a large head) and my IQ is 155 (or maybe more) so I am thinking that someone can get there simply by having a really good upbringing with good nutrition, great immune system, and good education and good genes without having to be in the "one of a kind special person" in some way. A lot of large guys also have a large head and brain area and some are even much larger than me though not many.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well, do you think Hilbert looks Baltid or just Borreby?

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/h/pics/hilbert.jpg

[Prisoner Of Ice]

http://fabpedigree.com/james/mathmen.htm

Some of these seem to be baltid.

At a glance I was thinking Euler was but he seems pretty unusual actually. He is one of the biggest deals in math so it would be interesting to figure a classification for him.

[Amud]

In that last pic it is more clear he's a bit unusual. He actually looks a lot like my grandfather did before he passed away.

I don't think that I have an immediately obviously unusual phenotype (though there's lots of unusual details and a large head) and my IQ is 155 (or maybe more) so I am thinking that someone can get there simply by having a really good upbringing with good nutrition, great immune system, and good education and good genes without having to be in the "one of a kind special person" in some way. A lot of large guys also have a large head and brain area and some are even much larger than me though not many.

Actually, I would say that you have a special phenotype.

You remind me of this guy, except you are probably even more robust
http://www.nordish.org/bilder/troe324.jpg

That's a kind of phenotype that I associate with high IQ because it is extreme in a variety of ways, especially the face length, brow ridge and cranial ridges (and in your case, depth of the jaw). In fact, you are one of the people that gave me the idea of very smart people having extreme phenotypes. This is still something that I'm not too sure about, of course, but I think it's worth considering and I would like to see if I can find any real patterns in how very smart people look.

[Germanic King]

Yes.

[Peikko]

"One can imagine the shock an intelligent German reader suffered when he remembered that many of the great German heroes from Bismarck down to Hindenburg and Hitler were brachycephalics and even hyperbrachycephalics, and that the three greatest philosophers Germany has produced-Leibniz, Kant, and Schopenhauer-had round heads in the most extreme form (Leibniz, skull index 90.3[!]; Kant, skull index 88.5; Schopenhauer, head index 90.0 [!]). Something had to be done about this rift between bare anthropological facts and the demands of the racial theory as preached and popularized by people like Ammon, Rose, Gunther, Fischer, Lenz, and others." (Weidenreich, 1945)
http://s21.postimg.org/sro7ksx2v/skull.jpg

[Amud]

http://fabpedigree.com/james/mathmen.htm

Some of these seem to be baltid.

At a glance I was thinking Euler was but he seems pretty unusual actually. He is one of the biggest deals in math so it would be interesting to figure a classification for him.

Yes, Hilbert is Baltid I guess. He doesn't look like the Eastern European farmer type of Baltid, but as a light pigmented brachycephal that probably would be his classification.

I'm not sure about Euler. He actually doesn't look like what I would guess to be highly intelligent, but portraits can be misleading.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Actually, Euler looks very neanderthal to me. Note especially how his nose is concave but it pushes very far forward. People like manxers and other isolated indiginous types tend to have a nose like that. He is the kind of alpinid that Gleen Iverson was talking about which looks very neanderthal, I think. Comparatively more gracilve but alpinids are actually a large brained bunch. He just shows more neanderthal traits than cromag.

[Aviator]

Black people are much stronger than white people. Asians and jews are A LOT smarter.. this thread is such a failture:picard2:

I loled.

The strongest people in the world are Northern Europeans, which is why they absolutely dominate strongman competitions. Europeans are also the smartest people in the world, with IQs barely trailing behind Japan and South Korea (And in some studies Northern Europeans such as Finns come out even or even higher than Asians.) More importantly, Asians only tend to have higher average IQs. Europeans (again, especially the Nordish) have actual geniuses (IQ of 140+) at a much higher rate than any other population on the planet. Furthermore, Asians score much lower on verbal skills, which may explain why their societies tend to be significantly less innovative in the fields of Engineering and Sciences.

You should do more research on the subject of race and how it correlates with physical ability and intelligence.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

But blacks look all ripped and stuff lol

[Amud]

Actually, Euler looks very neanderthal to me. Note especially how his nose is concave but it pushes very far forward. People like manxers and other isolated indiginous types tend to have a nose like that. He is the kind of alpinid that Gleen Iverson was talking about which looks very neanderthal, I think. Comparatively more gracilve but alpinids are actually a large brained bunch. He just shows more neanderthal traits than cromag.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Leonhard_Euler.jpg

Yeah, I can see it. Also seems like he has a lot of midfacial prognathism and a convex profile. Like I said, old portraits can be misleading, so I would prefer a death mask to draw conclusions from. Doesn't seem like there was one made of him, though. The kind of phenotype he seems to have in those pictures is Neanderthal-inspired, but it's not necessarily the kind that I associate with super high IQ (more robust types with big noses and cranial ridges). It's actually more the type that I associate with people like me, and I know I'm never going to be counted among the world's greatest mathematicians. It's still definitely a more advanced phenotype than your average person. All of those great mathematicians probably have some kind of unusual or special phenotype like that, whether it's Neanderthal-inspired like Euclid or just has a huge head and interesting-looking features like Hilbert.

I still disagree with Glenn about the Alpines being the most Neanderthal-like type overall. He did turn out to be correct that they have the highest ratio of skull width to minimum frontal, but the similarities usually end there.

[Gustave H]

Yes, I think so. And, I am not just saying this because I'm White.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Leonhard_Euler.jpg

Yeah, I can see it. Also seems like he has a lot of midfacial prognathism and a convex profile. Like I said, old portraits can be misleading, so I would prefer a death mask to draw conclusions from. Doesn't seem like there was one made of him, though. The kind of phenotype he seems to have in those pictures is Neanderthal-inspired, but it's not necessarily the kind that I associate with super high IQ (more robust types with big noses and cranial ridges). It's actually more the type that I associate with people like me, and I know I'm never going to be counted among the world's greatest mathematicians. It's still definitely a more advanced phenotype than your average person. All of those great mathematicians probably have some kind of unusual or special phenotype like that, whether it's Neanderthal-inspired like Euclid or just has a huge head and interesting-looking features like Hilbert.

I still disagree with Glenn about the Alpines being the most Neanderthal-like type overall. He did turn out to be correct that they have the highest ratio of skull width to minimum frontal, but the similarities usually end there.

Well, it's unclear what became of neanderthals and how much of their influence remains.

This study implies that some individuals have extreme levels of ancestry from ancient hominids compared to the general populance, however http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/12/variance-of-ibd-sharing-carmi-et-al-2012.html. If they gracilized they could look a lot like SOME alpinids like Euler, but that projected forward nose exists in many places, along with other features. Most people in Switzerland are very cromag though, like a shrunken old man cromag.

I think geniuses probably break the rules a bit but it seems to be they mainly fit into more archaic types. Studies show that inbred (you could say thoroughbred as well) are generally more intelligent and I am sure it would be due to preserving these ancient genes. But that could probably show up in many different ways.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Carl_Friedrich_Gauss.jpg

What about Gauss? Looks pretty much english to me, guess he is a pure saxon type.

Those are the three biggest math geniuses probably, Newton, Euler and Gauss.

[Amud]

Gauss photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Carl_Friedrich_Gauss_on_his_Deathbed,_1855.jpg

He shows the same pattern as a lot of these other mathematicians: sunken eyes, heavy brow, cranial ridges, big nose.


Gauss: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/pics/Gauss.jpg

La Chapelle Aux Saints Neanderthal: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50318&d=1409007760

A family resemblance?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Gauss photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Carl_Friedrich_Gauss_on_his_Deathbed,_1855.jpg

He shows the same pattern as a lot of these other mathematicians: sunken eyes, heavy brow, cranial ridges, big nose.


Gauss: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/pics/Gauss.jpg

La Chapelle Aux Saints Neanderthal: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50318&d=1409007760

A family resemblance?

Wow, he looks amazingly wise. You can tell you are looking at true genius. From the side he does look very neanderthal, though he looks very typical saxon from the front (very very similar to an English guy I know who survived the blitz).

I think he is probably the smartest person ever, actually. I was also impressed when I learned he never published a lot of his stuff and let other people take the credit for it if they discovered it before he published. I think that is a big problem with academia today, if you are not a glory hound you will end up a whipping boy.

[Ultra]

Well, do you think Hilbert looks Baltid or just Borreby?

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/h/pics/hilbert.jpg
He's probably Nordid with Baltid.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

And don;t forget sven, true scholar and uberwarrior lol

[Ultra]

And don;t forget sven, true scholar and uberwarrior lol
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[Prisoner Of Ice]

ANGELFACE GREEK GOD. :D :D :D

:lol:

I forgot he said that. I didn't realize greek angels were popeyed midgets.

[mieret]

This thread proves that most people cannot understand a simple question in english, just look at the answers

[mieret]

You're just jealous.

In my opinion there is something that really limits british people and it's sunlight. It's been proved that lack of sunlight can be terrible for brain development during pregnancy(which is especially bad if you are born in February-July). This seems silly but I'm convinced it can ultimately be a considerable drag in a society