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Feral
05-13-2014, 06:15 PM
Hunting is the practice of killing or trapping any living organism, or pursuing it with the intent of doing so.



Q: Are you against hunting animals? Why?

A: No. Because animals are not bambi (http://www.disney.es/bambi/images/gallery_images/BDE_ks02.jpg). A short history of my life: I was a vegetarian during three years, not because of animals but because of the stupidity of people. I've seen people using the word "specism" against hunting animals or even eating animals. For me, specism is to constantly anthropomorphize animals and deny the unique and particular nature which every animal have, i.e. specism is to deny nature itself. I've seen people slandering hunters of being insensitive and cruel... while they are at home eating a tasty and juicy piece of meat which they bought earlier that day; hunting a free animal will never be as cruel and insensitive as eating a fabricated animal.
So, denial and hypocrisy are my arguments against anti-hunting postures. Yes, I was sort of an anti-vegetariasm veggie. But I've returned to an omnivore diet since 4 years now. Yummy.

:yo:

And answer the question, pleash. :I

Gaston
05-13-2014, 06:18 PM
I am for it only if it's a fair battle, if the animal doesn't suffer too much, if the intent is to eat the kills, if the hunted animal isn't in danger of extinction and if there is no risk of shooting a passerby.

Neanderthal
05-13-2014, 06:23 PM
I say yes. I rather starve or become anemic eating only vegetables. :rolleyes:

Aurora
05-13-2014, 06:24 PM
I am not against hunting as long as it's not done for sport.

It is hard for me to hunt, but I have. It's hard for me because seeing the animal wild is so beautiful, I do hate to take it's life. I prefer to raise my own animals for meat. I've raised chickens and quail. I will be raising quail again for eating and will make good use of their feathers. Anyway, as long as I know the animal is being raised humanely I have no problems with eating meat and prefer to raise them myself than to take them from the wild these days since the wild animal population is low.

Feral
05-13-2014, 06:24 PM
I am for it only if it's a fair battle, if the animal doesn't suffer too much, if the intent is to eat the kills, if the hunted animal isn't in danger of extinction and if there is no risk of shooting a passerby.

I agree, altough I respect any good hunt, but my belief is that anything that is hunted should be eated. However, should I stop my cat from keep bringing dead birds and rats? He doesn't eat them, nor it's a fair battle. There are also pack-hunter animals, which makes their hunt not fair in number and probably more painful to the their prey.

Tacitus
05-13-2014, 06:26 PM
The noblest of pursuits. And free meat.

Graham
05-13-2014, 06:36 PM
Depends. We have an annual, cull of deer anyway due to over-population, they have no natural predators left.. It's a lucrative business in our Highlands(for some) to shoot pheasants and Deer.

If it's to keep the numbers down; yes. Rare animals; definitely no!

Empecinado
05-13-2014, 06:36 PM
Yes. Legal hunting is a great way to ensure the non-threatened animal populations, hunters are the main interested on preserving stable populations and its environment.

Feral
05-13-2014, 06:36 PM
I say yes. I rather starve or become anemic eating only vegetables. :rolleyes:

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portusaus
05-13-2014, 06:41 PM
Under normal and responsible circumstances yes. We are hunters, not hunting starves our very soul.

dude
05-13-2014, 06:42 PM
I don't like animal cruelty, and hunting just to kill the animal. But hunting an animal for food in order to survive is fine.

Neanderthal
05-13-2014, 06:44 PM
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I would love to hunt also. I just have never had the opportunity yet.

By the way, when I hear an 'anti-animal' cruelty rebuttal of why hunting (even unprotected species is wrong) this song comes to mind:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ_gAShRSsk

:laugh:

Vesuvian Sky
05-13-2014, 06:46 PM
I hunt.

With a bow.

Deer.

And I don't use a tree stand or any of that crap. Its difficult as all hell but truthfully, it wouldn't hurt average 21st century 'puff-puff' to go out and actually earn a meal.

Rudel
05-13-2014, 06:49 PM
Fuck yeah. I occasionally go hunting boar with my uncle, but I need to get my licence.

Tacitus
05-13-2014, 06:52 PM
I hunt.

With a bow.

Deer.

And I don't use a tree stand or any of that crap. Its difficult as all hell but truthfully, it wouldn't hurt average 21st century 'puff-puff' to go out and actually earn a meal.

The only way to hunt. If I didn't live in such an urban area I'd go hunting all the time in season.

McCauley
05-13-2014, 06:58 PM
Factory farming is very cruel and distressing for animals, but unfortunately there's no way around it with our population as high as it is, and the majority of people still eating meat on a regular basis. I think there isn't enough room for free range livestock, and it wouldn't be possible, even were it not less profitable for the company.

They say though, that large scale slaughterhouses are so distressing and traumatic for the cows, that a lot of stress hormones are released before the animal dies, and it messes with the quality of the meat. Better quality meat will always be the meat that roamed free.

Gauthier
05-13-2014, 07:00 PM
As long it is done under certain regulations, it is fine.

Armand_Duval
05-13-2014, 07:03 PM
I can understand ppl who like outdoor activities and like to hunt if and only "If" they do it legally and do not predate on endangered species, now regarding to me I dont like to hunt because I like animals and I dont like to kill them, maybe if I go on a camping trip and I have to hunt an animal to eat, I probably wouldl but killing a live being is not among my favorite stuff to do to be honest.

Gauthier
05-13-2014, 07:08 PM
I can understand ppl who like outdoor activities and like to hunt if and only "If" they do it legally and do not predate on endangered species, now regarding to me I dont like to hunt because I like animals and I dont like to kill them, maybe if I go on a camping trip and I have to hunt an animal to eat, I probably wouldl but killing a life being is not among my favorite stuff to do to be honest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

Feral
05-13-2014, 07:22 PM
Take it with humor, hey?

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Smaug
05-13-2014, 07:28 PM
I used to go hunting birds with my grandfather when I was a kid. It was very nice.

Hadouken
05-13-2014, 07:31 PM
I am ok with it only if the animals will be eaten after the hunt and dont suffer unnecessarily while the hunt

I would hunt myself for food ...would be a nice experience

Linebacker
05-13-2014, 07:38 PM
No Im a hunter myself.

Dombra
05-13-2014, 07:48 PM
I have never hunted myself but I would love to try

Peikko
05-13-2014, 07:51 PM
Depends. We have an annual, cull of deer anyway due to over-population, they have no natural predators left.. It's a lucrative business in our Highlands(for some) to shoot pheasants and Deer.

It's the same here with moose, they cause a lot of car accidents. All the hunting groups consist mainly of old men and young people aren't really into that kind of hobby, so I don't know how they're going to deal with that problem in the future.
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Alenka
05-13-2014, 07:53 PM
Depends. We have an annual, cull of deer anyway due to over-population, they have no natural predators left.. It's a lucrative business in our Highlands(for some) to shoot pheasants and Deer.

If it's to keep the numbers down; yes. Rare animals; definitely no!
Same here, but for bears. Bear meat is a local delicacy.

Prisoner Of Ice
05-13-2014, 07:54 PM
For deer there's no natural predators any more so it's needed.

PolishAmerican190
05-13-2014, 07:55 PM
I support the hunting down and extermination of all that lack compassion.

Kalimtari
05-13-2014, 09:21 PM
yes

and that's why:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlajUJ1ygdI

Prisoner Of Ice
05-14-2014, 04:49 PM
I support the hunting down and extermination of all that lack compassion.

Doesn't sound very compassionate.

PolishAmerican190
05-14-2014, 05:38 PM
Doesn't sound very compassionate.

well it will put them out of their misery, isn't that compassion ?

Prisoner Of Ice
05-14-2014, 05:40 PM
well it will put them out of their misery, isn't that compassion ?

Sounds like you will have to go first. I think it's funny that hunting is supposed to somehow lack compassion. Is all meat eating uncompassionate? If they lived in the wild and were eaten by a bear is it more compassionate? Do you think buffalo have little buffalo retirement homes?

PolishAmerican190
05-14-2014, 05:50 PM
Sounds like you will have to go first. I think it's funny that hunting is supposed to somehow lack compassion. Is all meat eating uncompassionate? If they lived in the wild and were eaten by a bear is it more compassionate? Do you think buffalo have little buffalo retirement homes?

I think you missed the point, I am by no way a vegan. I think putting hunters to work to rid of the scum of the earth is a better use of lead.

Veneda
05-14-2014, 10:03 PM
Same here, but for bears. Bear meat is a local delicacy.
I know one Slovenian guy ;) who was fed with bear steaks by his grandma in his childhood. I don't know how it works, but he has a guts :thumb001:

Manifest Destiny
05-14-2014, 10:13 PM
I'm in favor of hunting for food. Or if the animal you're shooting is annoying, like spotted owls or blue whales.

rhiannon
05-19-2014, 02:11 AM
I grew up with a father that killed our dinner more often than not. He raised rabbits, chickens, and goats for meat. Mostly it was rabbit, though. I had difficult time with it because every little girl out there loves bunny rabbits, right? I used to see my father butcher them all the time. Never liked it.

Hunting is acceptable if the animal is killed quickly and shown the proper respect it deserves for having given its life to you. This means eating the meat and using the hide in whatever way you can.

Personally, I couldn't hunt unless myself or my family were in direct danger of starvation. It is nearly impossible for me to imagine hurting anything unless it's in self defense, defense of a loved one, or it's a person that has deliberately harmed children.

I try to procure the meat we eat from outfits known to raise their animals humanely. All the beef we eat came from a cow raised by a good friend of mine, for example.

1stLightHorse
05-19-2014, 02:15 AM
I grew up with a father that killed our dinner more often than not. He raised rabbits, chickens, and goats for meat. Mostly it was rabbit, though. I had difficult time with it because every little girl out there loves bunny rabbits, right? I used to see my father butcher them all the time. Never liked it.

Hunting is acceptable if the animal is killed quickly and shown the proper respect it deserves for having given its life to you. This means eating the meat and using the hide in whatever way you can.

Personally, I couldn't hunt unless myself or my family were in direct danger of starvation. It is nearly impossible for me to imagine hurting anything unless it's in self defense, defense of a loved one, or it's a person that has deliberately harmed children.

I try to procure the meat we eat from outfits known to raise their animals humanely. All the beef we eat came from a cow raised by a good friend of mine, for example.

Amazing. Sounds like a healthy childhood, albeit a graphic one.

Black Wolf
05-19-2014, 07:49 PM
No I am not against it as I love to hunt.

1stLightHorse
05-21-2014, 02:10 AM
I know one Slovenian guy ;) who was fed with bear steaks by his grandma in his childhood. I don't know how it works, but he has a guts :thumb001:

Bear is supposedly one of the best tasting meats ever. Far better tasting than beef, but i don't talk from experience but only what i've heard.

chestbrah
05-21-2014, 02:11 AM
I'm a lifelong hunter and I don't plan on changing that

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
05-21-2014, 02:16 AM
well It would be hypocritical of me to say no to hunting animals since I eat them. Although it should definitely be limited to help prevent species from being endangered. Animals should also be killed humanely as possible, IE animals shouldn't be tortured before they die and die in agony or slow deaths.

1stLightHorse
05-21-2014, 02:17 AM
I used to go hunting alot more when my family friends had properties in Western QLD and Northern NSW and i wasn't working so much on the coast.

It was mostly Boar, but also some stag and kangaroo.

We always hunted with dogs, not guns or bows. Like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPmcFlicH3w

Ultra
05-21-2014, 02:21 AM
Bear is supposedly one of the best tasting meats ever. Far better tasting than beef, but i don't talk from experience but only what i've heard.
I heard exactly the opposite, and the only bear dish I have heard of in Sweden are meatballs made out of a pork/bear mix which they seem to serve on some very exclusive christmas parties. It's said it doesn't taste that good on its own. I'd sure like to try to find out though.

Pjeter Pan
05-21-2014, 02:25 AM
No offense but An animals life is meaningless but I'm still against hunting just for the fun of it.