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McCauley
05-13-2014, 06:32 PM
This is something I've been thinking about for a good while. If you wanted to put it in spiritual or superstitious terms, you'd say "past lives", I guess. Of course nowadays believing in past lives would probably just get you scoffed at if you tried to discuss it, but what if there is an explanation rooted in more than just superstitious fancy?

I'll try to be as clear as I can be, hopefully it makes enough sense.


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So say we have man who can't sleep. There's all kinds of fairly straightforward reasons as to why not. He consumes too much caffeine, his "internal clock" that regulates sleep patterns has become skewed some way or another (this is a common medical explanation I think), electronics keep him awake, he suffers from anxiety.... there is a plethora of medical explanations as to why he can't sleep. But it's often the case that none of those explanations quite cover it. He quits drinking soda, sets himself a strict bedtime schedule, reads before bed instead of watching TV, reduces stress in his life; he does everything the doctor tells him to. It don't cut it. The doctor is at a loss, gives him a prescription for some pills, and this all-too-common scenario progresses as it usually does- he gets addicted to pills, his sleep quality further declines and he grows more distraught than ever before.

Now why does no one ever think that this man was simply not meant to sleep at night? His body is just not inclined to rest while the sun is down? Going back far enough into this man's ancestral line, many thousands of years ago this mans forebear sat and watched over yon hills for the barely perceptible flitting in the shadows or the flicker of a torch. He trained his eyes to see the barely perceptible signs of movement under the dim light of the moon, or muffled sounds in near pitch blackness. He sat perched on a knoll on the side of a hill till the sun came up, completely alert with a stiff back, scanning eyes and keen ears.

His folk lived in this same valley for generations, and all his first forebear's sons watched the night just like their father did. Because over yon hills was another folk that had been prowling and stalking that land for as long as they knew, and they always had to be aware. They knew that the moment they all slept without pair of waking eyes and ears, they would be killed as they dreamt.

These same descendants became sentries on the battlements of some feudal lord's hall, they became scouts riding out ahead of an army, they were messengers riding through the night to bring news or gather a host of men, or they were just poor smallfolk drinking themselves into a stupor to get some rest at night.



So what I'm insinuating is just this: we behave, to an extent, according to the way our ancestors behaved. They had a literal impact on the minds of their posterity. You can call it genetically ingrained behavior. It can go so much further than this, and in my opinion, it logically explains the behavior of many people today who's behavior often seems inexplicable.

Drawing-slim
05-13-2014, 07:45 PM
Very Interesting. I can sincerely say that I've never been able to sleep at night. Ever since I can remember. This has affected my life completely. Had to quit day time jobs in my earlier years considering the shifts started around noon which was still very early and troubling for me.
During this time I even went to doctors and one of them recommended the best psychotherapists he knew even, because he was lost and didn't know what to do with me, gave me pills etc and I simply had no choice but to quit job after job since nothing worked and i wasn't able to get any sleep.

My body clock seem to fall in peaceful sleep only during the day. I tried over the years countless times skipping the whole day of sleep so I can be really tired at night and pass out but once the night comes my body and mind gets totally re-energized again and sleep is never possible.

McCauley
05-13-2014, 08:29 PM
Very Interesting. I can sincerely say that I've never been able to sleep at night. Ever since I can remember. This has affected my life completely. Had to quit day time jobs in my earlier years considering the shifts started around noon which was still very early and troubling for me.
During this time I even went to doctors and one of them recommended the best psychotherapists he knew even, because he was lost and didn't know what to do with me, gave me pills etc and I simply had no choice but to quit job after job since nothing worked and i wasn't able to get any sleep.

My body clock seem to fall in peaceful sleep only during the day. I tried over the years countless times skipping the whole day of sleep so I can be really tired at night and pass out but once the night comes my body and mind gets totally re-energized again and sleep is never possible.

Yep, that's how it is with a lot of people. They will get into the habit of staying up all night and sleeping through most of the day, then they'll try to correct it by fighting the urge to sleep that day and stay up for 24 hours until the next night.

And a lot of the time, it will never work. The "internal clock" is set to where your body only wants to sleep during the daylight hours.

McCauley
05-14-2014, 03:58 AM
I wish I could explain what I mean better. Another example could be someone having an aversion to certain foods for no obvious reason, because some people were more susceptible to getting sick from certain kinds of foods and bacteria in the past, a weaker immune system and that.

JoeyGee8688
05-16-2014, 03:50 AM
I think I heard or read somewhere that the nearly ubiquity of dragons in mythologies across the world could be explained by way of genetic memory:

Early men were frightened and threatened by myriad factors, including large reptiles, beasts with sharp claws, flying things (truly magical in the eyes of scientifically ignorant people), and fire. If you combine all of these traits into one object, a large, flying reptile with sharp talons and fire-breath is a likely result.

Hell, the desire some people have to become famous is just an expansion of basic survival instinct, like a type of posturing. If you "put yourself out there", you're seen as more aggressive and confident in a sense. If you're seen as aggressive and confident, others will acknowledge it, and you'll more likely to procure resources and high quality mates.

Prisoner Of Ice
05-16-2014, 04:00 AM
The reason that chalk on blackboard makes your hair stand on end is this is the sound a giant raptor would make as it shreaks. At some point we were tree monkeys and this would seem an awful lot like dragons. There's also evidence giant eagles still ate human children just tens of thousands of years ago which is a blink of the eye in evolutionary times.

McCauley
05-16-2014, 09:02 AM
I think I heard or read somewhere that the nearly ubiquity of dragons in mythologies across the world could be explained by way of genetic memory:

Early men were frightened and threatened by myriad factors, including large reptiles, beasts with sharp claws, flying things (truly magical in the eyes of scientifically ignorant people), and fire. If you combine all of these traits into one object, a large, flying reptile with sharp talons and fire-breath is a likely result.

Hell, the desire some people have to become famous is just an expansion of basic survival instinct, like a type of posturing. If you "put yourself out there", you're seen as more aggressive and confident in a sense. If you're seen as aggressive and confident, others will acknowledge it, and you'll more likely to procure resources and high quality mates.

Yep, this is exactly what I was going for. So much about human behavior can be explained this way. :thumb001:

1stLightHorse
05-16-2014, 10:55 AM
Very Interesting. I can sincerely say that I've never been able to sleep at night. Ever since I can remember. This has affected my life completely. Had to quit day time jobs in my earlier years considering the shifts started around noon which was still very early and troubling for me.
During this time I even went to doctors and one of them recommended the best psychotherapists he knew even, because he was lost and didn't know what to do with me, gave me pills etc and I simply had no choice but to quit job after job since nothing worked and i wasn't able to get any sleep.

My body clock seem to fall in peaceful sleep only during the day. I tried over the years countless times skipping the whole day of sleep so I can be really tired at night and pass out but once the night comes my body and mind gets totally re-energized again and sleep is never possible.

I'm very similar to this actually.

I have to work literally 14-15 hour days because during the morning-daytime i feel inactive and dead so i just pace myself and cruise through.

At night and early morning i come alive and can work really hard, so i stay in the office till late hours and just wait for the magic to happen.

1stLightHorse
05-16-2014, 10:57 AM
The reason that chalk on blackboard makes your hair stand on end is this is the sound a giant raptor would make as it shreaks. At some point we were tree monkeys and this would seem an awful lot like dragons. There's also evidence giant eagles still ate human children just tens of thousands of years ago which is a blink of the eye in evolutionary times.

It's also part of Vendramini's theory that Neanderthals predated on modern humans for millennia. The inherent fear of the dark and "monsters" lurking ready to kill or rape us.

McCauley
05-16-2014, 10:59 AM
I'm very similar to this actually.

I have to work literally 14-15 hour days because during the morning-daytime i feel inactive and dead so i just pace myself and cruise through.

At night and early morning i come alive and can work really hard, so i stay in the office till late hours and just wait for the magic to happen.

I have a tendency to be very active and energetic at night as well. I work on college stuff from 9:00 P.m. to 1:00 A.m., that's the time when I really can get the most done and when my mind is running wired.