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Sikeliot
05-15-2014, 05:02 PM
For comparison, the averages for western Sicily are in parentheses. Her grandmother is from Castellammare del Golfo, in Trapani province on the west coast of the island.


K13:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.66 (28.65)
2 West_Med 21.57 (22.70)
3 North_Atlantic 21.47 (21.14)
4 West_Asian 12.24 (10.85)
5 Baltic 6.87 (7.59)
6 Red_Sea 5.47 (5.07)
7 Northeast_African 1.49 (0.98)
8 Sub-Saharan 1.22 (0.95)


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Sicilian @ 2.544
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.680
3 East_Sicilian @ 5.839
4 South_Italian @ 6.309
5 Central_Greek @ 6.942
6 Tuscan @ 9.466
7 Ashkenazi @ 9.517
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.068
9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.370
10 Italian_Jewish @ 11.665
204 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Sicilian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.544
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.546
3 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.640
4 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Tuscan @ 2.699
5 50% Cyprian +50% Portuguese @ 2.864
6 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.998
7 50% Samaritan +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.076
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.134
9 50% South_Italian +50% Tuscan @ 3.136
10 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.185
20910 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Algerian_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 1.684
2 50% West_Sicilian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.708
3 50% West_Sicilian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.741
4 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 1.753
5 50% North_Italian +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.760
6 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Tunisian_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 1.762
7 50% West_Sicilian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.811
8 50% West_Sicilian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.812
9 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 1.839
10 50% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.889
773383 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + South_Italian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.460
2 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.500
3 Italian_Abruzzo + Sephardic_Jewish + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 1.527
4 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian @ 1.537
5 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.550
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Valencia + West_Sicilian @ 1.600
7 Italian_Abruzzo + Libyan_Jewish + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 1.616
8 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Extremadura + Tuscan @ 1.654
9 East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian @ 1.656
10 East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia + Tuscan @ 1.658
11 Algerian_Jewish + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.661
12 Italian_Abruzzo + Tunisian_Jewish + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 1.664
13 East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Aragon + West_Sicilian @ 1.670
14 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Southwest_French + West_Sicilian @ 1.673
15 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 1.684
16 East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Sicilian @ 1.693
17 Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 1.708
18 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Sephardic_Jewish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.719
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Sicilian @ 1.725
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Sicilian @ 1.727


K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.17 (26.74)
2 West_Med 17.69 (17.75)
3 Atlantic 16.52 (18.32)
4 West_Asian 12.66 (10.64)
5 North_Sea 11.15 (9.76)
6 Red_Sea 5.56 (5.37)
7 Baltic 4.50 (4.69)
8 Eastern_Euro 1.92 (3.27)
9 Northeast_African 1.87 (1.32)
10 Sub-Saharan 0.97 (0.72)


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Sicilian @ 3.505
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.517
3 East_Sicilian @ 4.667
4 South_Italian @ 5.838
5 Central_Greek @ 6.071
6 Ashkenazi @ 8.295
7 Tuscan @ 9.171
8 Italian_Jewish @ 9.200
9 Greek @ 10.469
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 10.565
207 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Sicilian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.343
2 50% Italian_Jewish +50% Tuscan @ 2.564
3 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Tuscan @ 2.777
4 50% South_Italian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.807
5 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.854
6 50% Central_Greek +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.002
7 50% Cyprian +50% Portuguese @ 3.151
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.162
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.235
10 50% Cyprian +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.242
21528 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Italian +25% Portuguese +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.873
2 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Algerian_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 1.894
3 50% Tuscan +25% South_Italian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.915
4 50% East_Sicilian +25% Cyprian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.922
5 50% North_Italian +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.931
6 50% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.936
7 50% North_Italian +25% Algerian_Jewish +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.987
8 50% Tuscan +25% Central_Greek +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.028
9 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Tunisian_Jewish +25% Tuscan @ 2.032
10 50% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.040
827386 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.532
2 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + South_Italian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.587
3 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.640
4 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Portuguese @ 1.736
5 Cyprian + Portuguese + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 1.746
6 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia + Tuscan @ 1.764
7 Lebanese_Muslim + Portuguese + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 1.774
8 Algerian_Jewish + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.823
9 Lebanese_Christian + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tuscan @ 1.834
10 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.841
11 Italian_Abruzzo + Libyan_Jewish + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 1.841
12 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.849
13 East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.853
14 Cyprian + East_Sicilian + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.854
15 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Portuguese + South_Italian @ 1.867
16 Algerian_Jewish + Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.871
17 Portuguese + South_Italian + South_Italian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.873
18 Lebanese_Christian + Portuguese + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.876
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.879
20 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 1.894

Sicilianu101
05-15-2014, 05:23 PM
To compare: Sicilian Grandma -- Western Sicily -- me (Alcara Li Fusi)
K13:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.66 -- 28.65 -- 31.55
2 West_Med 21.57 -- 22.70 -- 20.81
3 North_Atlantic 21.47 -- 21.14 -- 20.16
4 West_Asian 12.24 -- 10.85 -- 15.80
5 Baltic 6.87 -- 7.59 --2.00
6 Red_Sea 5.47 -- 5.07 --7.79
7 Northeast_African 1.49 -- 0.98 -- 1.12
8 Sub-Saharan 1.22 -- 0.95 -- 0.77

K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.17 -- 26.74 -- 29.49
2 West_Med 17.69 -- 17.75 -- 16.38
3 Atlantic 16.52 -- 18.32 -- 18.42
4 West_Asian 12.66 -- 10.64 -- 16.61
5 North_Sea 11.15 -- 9.76 -- 5.66
6 Red_Sea 5.56 -- 5.37 -- 7.94
7 Baltic 4.50 -- 4.69 -- 3.66
8 Eastern_Euro 1.92 -- 3.27 -- 0
9 Northeast_African 1.87 -- 1.32 -- 1.39
10 Sub-Saharan 0.97 -- 0.72 -- 0.43

JoeyGee8688
05-16-2014, 02:38 AM
I swear, my NW Euro half just about disappears on some of these calculators, at least as far as the population percentages are concerned. So what exactly is West Asian, anyway? Arabian Peninsula? Caucus?

Sikeliot
05-16-2014, 02:41 AM
I swear, my NW Euro half just about disappears on some of these calculators, at least as far as the population percentages are concerned. So what exactly is West Asian, anyway? Arabian Peninsula? Caucus?

Caucasus. Arabian is "Red Sea".

"East Med" is highest in the Levant, and also southern Italy, Cyprus, etc.