Did climate change lead to the downfall of ANCIENT EGYPT?

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Tree rings inside a cigar box suggest drought ended civilisation
Rings were found on cigar box and boats buried near Sesostris III pyramid
Technique called ‘dendro radiocarbon wiggle matching’ used to date items
Samples showed a small, unusual anomaly following the year 2200 BC
Climate research has suggested a major drought event about this time
‘This record shows that climate change doesn’t have to be as catastrophic as an Ice Age to wreak havoc' said researcher Stuart Manning
By ELLIE ZOLFAGHARIFARD
PUBLISHED: 11:44 GMT, 20 May 2014 | UPDATED: 13:58 GMT, 20 May 2014

Ancient Egypt could have been undone by the type of rapid climate change that many of today’s policymakers fear.
This is according to tree ring samples found in an old cigar box which reveal the ancient civilisation came to its knees following changes to its food resources and infrastructure.
The find adds to the debate about what led to the collapse of the civilisation more than 3,000 years ago, with theories ranging from wars to famine and disease.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2633807/Did-climate-change-lead-downfall-ANCIENT-EGYPT-Tree-rings-inside-cigar-box-suggest-drought-ended-civilisation.html#ixzz32GViwt6l

[LightHouse89]

more than just that but it could have been a factor.

[blogen]

No. Only a civilization failed because of the nature an that nature was the geology and not the climate. This was the Chimú culture and the rise of the Andes made it impossible the irrigation of their fertile valleys. They built up a huge channel, but they did not have iron tools to the stone crushing and the mountain was faster. The climate is a soft thing and a living culture responds to the transitional crises with new political, economical and social models.

[LightHouse89]

No. Only a civilization failed because of the nature an that nature was the geology and not the climate. This was the Chimú culture and the rise of the Andes made it impossible the irrigation of their fertile valleys. They built up a huge channel, but they did not have iron tools to the stone crushing and the mountain was faster. The climate is a soft thing and a living culture responds to the transitional crises with new political, economical and social models.

unless http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6evRtpdAw :p

[blogen]

unless http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6evRtpdAw :p

The Minoans quicly rebuild their cities after the Thera eruption and tsunami.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

No. Only a civilization failed because of the nature an that nature was the geology and not the climate. This was the Chimú culture and the rise of the Andes made it impossible the irrigation of their fertile valleys. They built up a huge channel, but they did not have iron tools to the stone crushing and the mountain was faster. The climate is a soft thing and a living culture responds to the transitional crises with new political, economical and social models.

That's a bold statement when middle east and north africa are full of cities in the middle of the desert which used to be in lush agricultural land.

[Cleitus]

No, Racial mongrelization did.

[Styrian Mujo]

I was thinking more within the lines of fornicating with Negroes but I guess climate change could do the job.

[blogen]

That's a bold statement when middle east and north africa are full of cities in the middle of the desert which used to be in lush agricultural land.

Middle of the desert? Which cities exactly?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Middle of the desert? Which cities exactly?

Do you need to ask? Virtually all of them.

2k years ago the climate was completely different.

[blogen]

Do you need to ask? Virtually all of them.
2k years ago the climate was completely different.

What's the name of these cities? Where are these?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

What's the name of these cities? Where are these?

You have no idea what you are talking about apparently

wikipedia.com/archaeology

From mohenjo daru to the countless unnamed walled cities in north africa the world is full of abandoned cities in desert conditions that were once very lush. 6k years ago there was not even such a thing as sahara desert.

[Rudel]

No. Only a civilization failed because of the nature an that nature was the geology and not the climate.
The terrible crops of 535-536 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather_events_of_535%E2%80%93536) (which is also the time the Gothic War began) probably impacted a lot on the destiny of Roman Italy.


You have no idea what you are talking about apparently

wikipedia.com/archaeology

From mohenjo daru to the countless unnamed walled cities in north africa the world is full of abandoned cities in desert conditions that were once very lush. 6k years ago there was not even such a thing as sahara desert.
Northern African agriculture got full fucked up during the XIth century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Hilal

[blogen]

You have no idea what you are talking about apparently
wikipedia.com/archaeology

This is evasion.


From mohenjo daru to the countless unnamed walled cities in north africa the world is full of abandoned cities in desert conditions that were once very lush.

Mohenjo Daro is in the center of the fertile Indus valley
http://s27.postimg.org/x93tj66n7/mohenjo.jpg

or the agricultural lands around Leptis Magna:
http://s27.postimg.org/vvc6nv7dv/Leptis_Magna.jpg

You find desert cities along the dead bed of the Saraswati, but this was not climate change. The river gave up its old bed.


6k years ago there was not even such a thing as sahara desert.

Yes, the Sahara was semi desert in the Holocen, but there were no cities at this time.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Climate change has been associated with the historical collapse of civilizations, cities and dynasties. Notable examples of this include the Anasazi,[9] Classic Maya,[10] the Harappa, the Hittites, and Ancient Egypt.[11] Other, smaller communities such as the Viking settlement of Greenland[12] have also suffered collapse with climate change being a suggested contributory factor.[13]

There are two proposed methods of Classic Maya collapse: environmental and non-environmental. The environmental approach uses paleoclimatic evidence to show that movements in the intertropical convergence zone likely caused severe, extended droughts during a few time periods at the end of the archaeological record for the classic Maya.[14] The non-environmental approach suggests that the collapse could be due to increasing class tensions associated with the building of monumental architecture and the corresponding decline of agriculture,[15] increased disease,[16] and increased internal warfare.[17]

The Harappa and Indus civilizations were affected by drought 4,500–3,500 years ago. A decline in rainfall in the Middle East and Northern India 3,800–2,500 is likely to have affected the Hittites and Ancient Egypt.


Also all over south america, north africa, levant, eastern turkey (gobli tepi is in arid region). Practically all the biblical cities are now in the desert. They were not, back then!

I wish I could remember the term for it but there's a specific phrase about the rainfall line in levant and north africa and how it completely changed and became much drier. Oh well, I guess I don't care that much, but it is hard to believe anyone is going to try to argue your case.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

This is evasion.



You're a joke.

[blogen]

You're a joke.

Yeah, blahblah, but:


Also all over south america, north africa, levant, eastern turkey (gobli tepi is in arid region). Practically all the biblical cities are now in the desert. They were not, back then!

Mesopotamia mostly is a desert and Mesopotamia was mostly a desert 10 thousand years ago too. Which ruined cities were not in a desert some thousand years ago?

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well, you are dead wrong. If you think that it shows you don't even know roman history very well, let alone archaeology. Which means (as I think more and more) you should just not make any statements when it comes to threads about archaeology.

[blogen]

I do not care the blahblah. Pls the names of these cities! No? Ok, I understand.