Many Filipinos' 23andme results, with pics!

[clete27]

These are various Filipinos that I'm friends with. They're all full Filipino, meaning that all 4 of their grandparents were born in the Philippines. They are ranked from least to most European. The average Filipino is only 1% European

#1
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#2
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/bere.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/deree.jpg

#3
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/ahaedp.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/ahepad.jpg

#4
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/fpzf.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/fsf.jpg

#5
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/mrssss.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/mrss.jpg

#6
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/rrsty.jpg
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#7
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/bear.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/bear2.jpg
CUNTINUED...

[clete27]

CUNTINUATION....

#8
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/wun.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/juan.jpg

#9
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/jammies.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/jammies2.jpg

#10
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/novo1.jpg
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#11
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/novo2.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/sdfff.jpg

#12
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/novo3.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/ap.jpg

#13
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/dfspgarre.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/dfsggg.jpg

[Lemonhead]

Is the last lady the most European Filipino 23andme result you've seen so far?

[Iroczor]

Here's a filipino related to my uncle via european lineage.

http://i59.tinypic.com/sbt45v.png

Unfortunately he has no picture. :(

[clete27]

Is the last lady the most European Filipino 23andme result you've seen so far?

Yes. The next highest is 33%. But this is just for Filipinos who have all 4 grandparents born in the Philippines.

[clete27]

Here's a filipino related to my uncle via european lineage.

http://i59.tinypic.com/sbt45v.png

Unfortunately he has no picture. :(

Thanks! These are somewhat typical Filipino results. How close of cousins is this guy to your uncle?

[Selurong]

23andme gives ridiculously low estimates. GEDcal and other tests actually gives higher scores for European and are more scientific in that they separate the Asian component into South, Southeast and East Asian (With a separate Native-American component too) instead of just lumping them all together under the generic Asian.

[clete27]

Ironically the prettiest girl on there is the one with the least amount of European. She's basically pure native Filipina and she's beautiful.

[clete27]

23andme gives ridiculously low estimates. GEDcal and other tests actually gives higher scores for European and are more scientific in that they separate the Asian component into South, Southeast and East Asian (With a separate Native-American component too) instead of just lumping them all together under the generic Asian.

Yes, 23andme is very conservative, but it's better. It accounts for admixture that happened since colonial times but not ancient ancient admixture like all the gedmatch calculators. Like, I don't care if I'm .5% African Pygmy. That's why I like 23andme results better.

[Selurong]

Ironically the prettiest girl on there is the one with the least amount of European. She's basically pure native Filipina and she's beautiful.

Yes even the historical chronicles agreed with you. And even I, agree with you too. The pure ones are very beautiful. And that is what the original Spanish writers wrote too...


"The women are beautiful ... They are well and modestly dressed, in that they cover all the private parts; they are very clean, and are very fond of perfumes"


"“The natives of the Pintados Islands are not very dark. Both men and women are well formed and have regular features. Some of the women are white. Both men and women wear their hair long, and fastened in a knot on the crown of the head, which is very becoming "

( Father Pedro Chirino - Relationes De Las Islas Filipinas 1604) A Jesuit priest in Tigbauan , Iloilo)

Source: ilongo.weebly.com/iloilo-history-part-2.html

However, in balance...

Lolz 55/58 samples in 23andme and almost every other automosal genetic test done on Filipinos always show a minimum of at least 1-2% European. So much for the myth that only 3.6% of Filipinos have any European ancestry.

Furthermore according to historical censuses 1/3rd of Filipinos are descended from various strains of Hispanic (ranging from Hispanics in Latin-America to pure Iberians)


“Your first question, with respect to the Spanish population, must refer to native Spaniards only; as their numerous descendants, through all the variety of half-castes, would include one third at least of the whole population of Luconia (i.e., Luzon–A. C.)

“Of native Spaniards, accordingly, settled in the Philippine Islands, the total number may be stated at 2,000 not military. The military, including all descriptions, men and officers, are about 2,500, out of which number the native regiments are officered These last, in 1796-7, were almost entirely composed of South Americans and were reckoned at 5,000 men, making a military force of about 7,500.

Source: http://www.authorama.com/former-philippines-b-8.html

[Selurong]

In a way, I'm glad that only 1/3rd of the Filipino population is descended from Spanish peoples or mixed with Hispanic (From Latin-America and Iberia) while the remaining 2/3rds are natives.

That way the beauty and grace of the pure native woman wasn't discriminated out-of-existence as what had happened in Spanish majority Latin-American countries.

[Armando Esteban Quito]

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[Iroczor]

Thanks! These are somewhat typical Filipino results. How close of cousins is this guy to your uncle?

Like 3rd to distant cousin i think? It's possible that some of his distant ancestors might have traveled to your country thus having this connection since there was some documented history about it. There was this filipino guy on ABF who had some detectable european and amerindian in his dna results. I thought it was really cool that he had something so foreign and alien from another country.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/32591-holdem84-s-23andMe-Results?p=857996&viewfull=1#post857996

[Han Cholo]

None of them scores significant Australoid/Negrito. I thought it would be at least 5/10%.

[clete27]

None of them scores significant Australoid/Negrito. I thought it would be at least 5/10%.

Australoid doesn't show on 23andme. They have an Oceanian category, but the samples only came from a few Papuans. Filipinos' Australoid ancestry is mostly Negrito. It's probably absorbed into the Southeast Asian label. Gedmatch calculators show significant Australoid ancestry for Filipinos. And a Filipino created his own ancestry calculator with a Filipino Negrito category and it showed that the average Filipino is 5-10% Negrito. This girl definitely has a lot of Negrito blood. She's a pure Filipina beauty
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/bere.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/dfdFDar.jpg

[Selurong]

None of them scores significant Australoid/Negrito. I thought it would be at least 5/10%.

Australoids/Negritos have the same genetic makeup as the mainland Asians. In fact in genetic studies, they are indistinguishable from the later waves of Mongoloids. It just seems like the Austronesian already has Australoid/Negrito component but the current Negrito/Australoids have no Austronesian component. Because the automosal info is found in the later but absent in the former. Those Negritos are merely counted as Asians even though they have vastly different Phenotypes.

Either that or 23andme is really crappy (As I suspected) and doesn't even have samples for Australoid admixture hence they don't appear in the results.

I already suspected 23andme to be haph-hazard since it doesn't even separate South, Southeast and East Asian admixture. (Which are clearly 3 distinct groups)

South Asians
http://www.sajaforum.org/images/2008/06/25/vinay.jpg

Southeast Asians
http://static.squarespace.com/static/508da03be4b0d28844ddf21c/t/51ca3fc0e4b04a2426bfa978/1372209092158/Floren%E2%80%85Herrera

East Asians
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jung+Yu+Ri+Korea+DPR+v+China+EAFF+Women+East+xXJq0 Gui5yzl.jpg

Instead 23andme lumped all under the term "Asian"

I like GEDcal better because it gives a more comprehensive genetic outlay for Filipinos who also have South Asian, West Asian, East Asian and Southeast Asian admix as well as the Australoid mix in there too.

[clete27]

In a way, I'm glad that only 1/3rd of the Filipino population is descended from Spanish peoples or mixed with Hispanic (From Latin-America and Iberia) while the remaining 2/3rds are natives.

That way the beauty and grace of the pure native woman wasn't discriminated out-of-existence as what had happened in Spanish majority Latin-American countries.

You have a misunderstanding of this whole thing. Not just 1/3rd of Filipinos are descended from Europeans, more like 75% (according to my numbers, it's probably more like 50% in reality) But the fact is that most Filipinos only have a small percentage of European ancestry. So we can say that most Filipinos have European ancestors, but only a few European ancestors. Like I said, the average European admixture is only 1%

[clete27]

Like 3rd to distant cousin i think? It's possible that some of his distant ancestors might have traveled to your country thus having this connection since there was some documented history about it. There was this filipino guy on ABF who had some detectable european and amerindian in his dna results. I thought it was really cool that he had something so foreign and alien from another country.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/32591-holdem84-s-23andMe-Results?p=857996&viewfull=1#post857996

Lots of Filipinos have a little Native American blood. If you look on the first page, 8 of the 13 people have some Native American. It's because the Philippines was ruled through Mexico, so mostly Mexicans came and they brought their Native American blood. My surname is only found among Mayans.

[Selurong]

You have a misunderstanding of this whole thing. Not just 1/3rd of Filipinos are descended from Europeans, more like 75% (according to my numbers, it's probably more like 50% in reality) But the fact is that most Filipinos only have a small percentage of European ancestry. So we can say that most Filipinos have European ancestors, but only a few European ancestors. Like I said, the average European admixture is only 1%

Sorry I was basing it in previous history. If you looked at the census I cited, during the 1700s 1/3rd of Filipinos were descended from Spaniards-Mexicans-Peruvians while 2/3rds we're not. I guess time has changed the demographics and it's been 300 years since the 17000s. So the Hispanic component in the Filipino had been spread out to almost everybody, but is now very diluted. Whereas in the past the 1/3rd of Filipinos having Hispanic descent had highly concentrated amounts of that Hispanic descent.

Anyway, it obviously ain't the case anymore.

[Selurong]

Lots of Filipinos have a little Native American blood. If you look on the first page, 8 of the 13 people have some Native American. It's because the Philippines was ruled through Mexico, so mostly Mexicans came and they brought their Native American blood. My surname is only found among Mayans.

Then you're probably like Sarah Geronimo. All this time she thought herself to be a pure Filipina but it turns out that she may have Native-American ancestry too because her surname "Geronimo" is indigenous to America.

She sure does sing well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz2qYWy8sQs

She's just as a good a singer as that Mexican-Filipino contestant Jessica Sanchez.

But anyway, the flow wasn't only one way with Mexicans going to the Philippines. There were also Filipinos in Mexico. I.E: General Montes de Oca who was a Filipino General of the Mexican revolution.

[clete27]

Sorry I was basing it in previous history. If you looked at the census I cited, during the 1700s 1/3rd of Filipinos were descended from Spaniards-Mexicans-Peruvians while 2/3rds we're not. I guess time has changed the demographics and it's been 300 years since the 17000s. So the Hispanic component in the Filipino had been spread out to almost everybody, but is now very diluted. Whereas in the past the 1/3rd of Filipinos having Hispanic descent had highly concentrated amounts of that Hispanic descent.

Anyway, it obviously ain't the case anymore.

Interesting thing is, most of the upper-class Filipinos who are very European are actually only a few generations removed from Spain. Their ancestors came to the Philippines towards the beginning of the 1900s because Spain was heading toward Civil War. Most of these Filipinos aren't included in my numbers because they have grandparents who weren't born in the Philippines.

[Selurong]

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[clete27]

Then you're probably like Sarah Geronimo. All this time she thought herself to be a pure Filipina but it turns out that she may have Native-American ancestry too because her surname "Geronimo" is indigenous to America.

She sure does sing well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz2qYWy8sQs

She's just as a good a singer as that Mexican-Filipino contestant Jessica Sanchez.

But anyway, the flow wasn't only one way with Mexicans going to the Philippines. There were also Filipinos in Mexico. I.E: General Montes de Oca who was a Filipino General of the Mexican revolution.

She is pretty, but I like more dark-skinned like this girl. You dont see a lot of them in the Philippines because they dont like to get dark, but Filipinas in America are dark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs7XB5X1U48

I like Toni Gonzaga tho, even tho she's a compeltely different type. Gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdiCDYN2DD4

[Selurong]

Interesting thing is, most of the upper-class Filipinos who are very European are actually only a few generations removed from Spain. Their ancestors came to the Philippines towards the beginning of the 1900s because Spain was heading toward Civil War. Most of these Filipinos aren't included in my numbers because they have grandparents who weren't born in the Philippines.


I'm actually wondering why there is less Spanish introgression in the Philippines compared to Latin-America...
When the Philippines was a longer Spanish territory than any other Latin-American country except Cuba and Puerto Rico.

Just analyze the case, Philippine-independence wasn't consummated until 1898 (End of the Century) while Mexico for example, one of the first states to rebel, had been independent at 1813 (Which was at the beginning of the Century).

So, during the course of that century, there would be 4 generations (It takes 25 years for a person to grow up and have children and cause the next generation, thus a century has 4 generations) There should have logically been 4 generations more of Spanish people...

Hmm I think the kind of people who immigrated, is the critical difference over why the Latin-American Hispanics and Filipino Hispanics have different levels of population concentration. Whereas the Latin-American Hispanics basically harbored political exiles or refugees who fled Europe (And thus hated their European identity and eagerly embraced a Latino one) whereas, the Philippines being a loyalist stronghold, there was a mass migration of Hispanics out of the Philippines after the culmination of the Philippine war for independence.

Anyway, I much prefer our situation, in that our Hispanics are loyalists with good-breeding whereas the Hispanics of Latin-America are the refugees who fled Europe.

[clete27]

pretty chinita and mestiza Filipinas. I love all kinds of Filipinas really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqd6g64oUBc

[Selurong]

You can compare the independence time-periods of the Latin-Americans as contrasted to our's here. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125006-The-Most-Disloyal-amp-Possibly-Most-Ungrateful-Hispanic-Countries)

You can see that the Philippines was the last or second to the last Spanish province to declare independence.

What's even more ironic is that judging from our geopolitical position of being surrounded by Non-hispanic and Anti-Christian areas on all sides...

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Filipinas_zpsc52ea5e7.png

The pressure to secede from Spain and join her enemies, is far far greater than in all of Latin-America combined (Who are just akin to one another).

What kind of satisfaction, did we get by being Catholic and Hispanic if all our immediate neighbors have set their eyes against us and constantly destroyed us or shame us of our Hispanicity?

The Muslims to our South carried off hundreds of thousands of Filipinos as slaves. The Japanese at the north-east haughtily looked down on us and disdained us as sell-out. The Chinese looked down on us as barbarians and the British Australians to our South East were notorious pirates who constantly preyed on our shipping.

The pressure to rebel and join our neighbors and finally attain peace, is 1000x more than in Latin-America who are all simply surrounded by allied-nations with similar values.

Considering this, we have 5x more the right to be called Hispanic compared to Hispanics in America. Yet, those ingrato rebeldes won't even consider us Hispanic.

[Selurong]

pretty chinita and mestiza Filipinas. I love all kinds of Filipinas really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqd6g64oUBc

Me too, but I'm more attracted to the heart rather than a person's skin-color or sociological classification.

[simple]

How many filipinos take DNA test in 23andme?

[Insuperable]

These are various Filipinos that I'm friends with. They're all full Filipino, meaning that all 4 of their grandparents were born in the Philippines. They are ranked from least to most European. The average Filipino is only 1% European

So are the results you posted atypical since 1% seems to be little? Are they all on speculative or standard mode? I am guessing it is on speculative mode.

[clete27]

So are the results you posted atypical since 1% seems to be little? Are they all on speculative or standard mode? I am guessing it is on speculative mode.

They're all in speculative because I wanted everyone to see the Chinese ancestry and it only shows up in speculative. In Standard mode, the median amount of European is 1.1%. I havent calculated the median amount of European in Speculative, but it's at least 1.4%. So the first 5 people have less than the average, and #6 has the average amount, and #7-13 are above average.

[Selurong]

23andme is ridiculously conservative though, even in speculative mode. 23andme's speculative mode is already GEDcal's conservative mode.

[clete27]

How many filipinos take DNA test in 23andme?

hundreds. I'm friends with 65 of them but there are many many more

[Selurong]

hundreds. I'm friends with 65 of them but there are many many more

I wish they would do population wide automosal analysis of Filipinos instead of the current crap or sorry excuse of genetic studies we have right now.

[clete27]

I wish they would do population wide automosal analysis of Filipinos instead of the current crap or sorry excuse of genetic studies we have right now.

This site is the most reliable thing I've seen so far. Face it, Filipinos with significant European admixture (25%+) are only about 2 million, or 2% of the population.

[Timawa]

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I stumbled upon this forum because the member from ForumBioDiversity referred me to this forum regarding Filipinos' DNA ancestry results. Unfortunately, I don't have 23andMe results but I have Ancestry.com and National Geographical Project DNA results. They are almost similar.

I have Mediterranean and Southwestern Asian ancestry from National Geographical Project and North African ancestry(Ancestry.com).

Does they indicate that I have my ancestors from Spain? I'm curious. Thank you.

Here is my DNA result from National Geographical Project.

[StonyArabia]

^ Yes it does, as there was no North African presence in Philippines.

[Timawa]

^ Yes it does, as there was no North African presence in Philippines.

Yeah, it does make sense and I remember the history where there was a heavy presence of Moors(North Africans) living in Spain for nearly 500 year until the Expulsion of Moors in 1492.

Btw, thank you, Nabatea1

[Isleño]

Ironically the prettiest girl on there is the one with the least amount of European. She's basically pure native Filipina and she's beautiful.

I feel just the opposite, although the ones that are less mixed are still pretty, I find the mixed ones most attractive.

[Isleño]

In a way, I'm glad that only 1/3rd of the Filipino population is descended from Spanish peoples or mixed with Hispanic (From Latin-America and Iberia) while the remaining 2/3rds are natives.

That way the beauty and grace of the pure native woman wasn't discriminated out-of-existence as what had happened in Spanish majority Latin-American countries.
I'm Canary Islander and there was a population of North Africans in the Canary Islands before the Spanish arrived called the Guanches. They do not exist anymore as a pure people. Only remnants of them survive within us today. For instance, I am 10.38% North African Guanche and I'm 90% Iberian. The average North African DNA in the Canary Islands today is between 10-20%. The Canary Islands was once a colony of Spain, just as the Philippines and Latin American countries, but went the opposite route. Instead of independence from Spain, the Canary Islands became a province and now is part of the country of Spain.

[Isleño]

Hello Pinay, I'm from Louisiana and I am Spanish Canary Islander ancestry. My family came here to Louisiana from the Canary Islands of Spain. I wanted to tell you that the oldest Filipino village in the United States is located just a few miles from my house. It was called St. Malo, you can Google it, it was in Louisiana and it was created in the colonial days when Louisiana was a Spanish colony. But now the village is not there anymore and the local Filipino-American population has just spread out in the southeast Louisiana area. I know many Filipino-Americans here in Louisiana that are descendants of the first Filipinos in the U.S.. It's an interesting topic. I can tell you lots about these people and their history and about them now in modern times here in Louisiana, USA.

[Selurong]

I'm Canary Islander and there was a population of North Africans in the Canary Islands before the Spanish arrived called the Guanches. They do not exist anymore as a pure people. Only remnants of them survive within us today. For instance, I am 10.38% North African Guanche. The average North African DNA in the Canary Islands today is between 10-20%. The Canary Islands was once a colony of Spain, just as the Philippines and Latin American countries, but went the opposite route. Instead of independence from Spain, the Canary Islands became a province and now is part of the country of Spain.

I wish that as a formerly united commonwealth; the Spanish empire didn't just breed and produce various half-castes but selectively bred those half-castes among their own kind long enough to produce their own new breed. Its sorta like the the the founding of new strains of dogs which is often created by hybridization from other kinds of doggies but selective breeding of such and such produces new strains entirely. If the Spanish empire lasted longer we would have wonderful breeds like a a negra with jet-black skin but with natural blonde hair or a castizo who has native surname since Spain had a blaned view or race mixing, of engaging in it but at the same time, knowing what lineages to keep pure.

And you guys can always resurrect your Canary Islander lineage by breeding among yourselves long enough to expand the Canary Islander genome share from 20 to 30 or up to 50%. Natives just have to reproduce more and foreigners, less.

But when it comes to maintaining racial purity the Basques are very good at his. Their language is pre Indo-European and they expell or make migrants out of the mestizos they have with their surrounding Ino-European neighbors. Talk about racial chastity.

We sorta also have a Basque equiavalent here with our Negritos, who are genetically alike with mainland asians, but that because we have protected their pure-race [The Visayan ethnic group from Pannai having a treaty with their chieftain, Marikudo.] Even though, we posess admix from them; their purity marked them as vastly different from us and we no longer look alike even though we have the same genes and a little extra even.

These negritos are our little treasure which we jelously guard just like the Basques are Spain's treasure which they also jealously guard.

With right guidance, Canary islanders can breed back their strain from obscurity and be another sort of Basque people for Spain. Likewise, we can also do the reverse and instead of just maintaining or resurrectinng ancient breeds of humanity, we can create new ones with apellate culture too. I.E: in our case here in Iloilo, although, this was the place of the last Spanish capital in the indies. We caused most of our mestizos to, rather than staying in our province, to go to Bacolod or Zamboanga, in the hopes that they would become a new breed of people too and in a way I'm glad that we droped speaking Spanish upon the American era, that way the, isolation with the rest of Hispanidad caused those mestizos to form a new creole-language (descendant lanugage) vastly different than mainline Spanish.

They speak Chavacano now which is only one among two languages descended from Spanish [the other, being Palenquero in Colombia]

Both are creole or child-languages of Spanish. People have to mix isolation and interaction once in a while in order to create new ethnic groups. And sometimes, I wish that Spanish would go the way of what Latin did Europe, wherein Latin was universally spoken in the Roman empire but it's romance dialects became creoles and eventually evolved into new languages. Something which cannot occur when Spanish speakers always constantly interacts with other Spanish speakers, thus their amelioration forms an ethno-linguistic blurr rather than an ethnolinguistic tapestry.

Spanish countries should do what New Zealanders do, reintroduce Aboriginal vocab into education and bit by bit we can turn the ethnolinguistic mongrel broth into an ethno-linguistic high-breed mosaic.

But anyway, I love what Spain did in her colonies (of not being racist to the native) and it was through her that many native american cultures were saved vis-a-vis what Britain or the Dutch did by wiping out the natives. But they are so late in the game. Whereas they're now in the stage wherein they're trying to form hybrids with other peoples, we're now in the stage of forming high-breeds of those hybrid people we just formed...

I look to a future wherein Canary islanders can resurrect and strengthen thier old identity among a sea of mongrels like the Basques in relation to Catalans or Negritos in relation to Visayans or be their own creole ethnic-group; descendant-of-spanish but distinct from it like Palenquero or Chabacano. You as a people should decide this though.

We should move on from the hybrid mentality and proceed to a high-breed mentality.

[Isleño]

Interesting topic. I'm sure this is possible, but will that happen is a better question. The thing with the Canary Islands today, is there are many people from the peninsula (mainland Spain) that are settling in the Canary Islands. I think eventually this will take a toll on the local population. The Canary Islands is the source of my people, but I actually live in a Canary Islander ethnic enclave in the USA. Here in the US, we are trying to fight to maintain our people from venturing outside of our community and mixing with non-Canarians. We are doing a pretty good job, because most of us are strictly Canarian, but hopefully we can keep that going for the next generations to come. I visit the Canary Islands regularly and I have relatives there. I am proud to be an Islander and my beautiful island culture.

What you speak of is possible, but I think what we have is too far gone and only remains a remnant in our blood. I think your indigenous people have a chance to survive. The indigenous people of my family's islands have been completely decimated. I have the blood of both the master and the slave.

[Selurong]

Hello Pinay, I'm from Louisiana and I am Spanish Canary Islander ancestry. My family came here to Louisiana from the Canary Islands of Spain. I wanted to tell you that the oldest Filipino village in the United States is located just a few miles from my house. It was called St. Malo, you can Google it, it was in Louisiana and it was created in the colonial days when Louisiana was a Spanish colony. But now the village is not there anymore and the local Filipino-American population has just spread out in the southeast Louisiana area. I know many Filipino-Americans here in Louisiana that are descendants of the first Filipinos in the U.S.. It's an interesting topic. I can tell you lots about these people and their history and about them now in modern times here in Louisiana, USA.

Lol what happened to the Filipino structures there? They should have at least left behind ruins or structures to mark their prescence (Or perhaps it was destroyed by government?). Just as when the Carthiginian, Hanno the navigator first visited the Canary island he saw many ruins. Althoug it was uninhabited.

[Isleño]

Lol what happened to the Filipino structures there? They should have at least left behind ruins or structures to mark their prescence (Or perhaps it was destroyed by government?). Just as when the Carthiginian, Hanno the navigator first visited the Canary island he saw many ruins. Althoug it was uninhabited.
No, no...the village was destroyed by nature. By a hurricane. You see, the Filipinos built their village out in the swamp land on the water and a big hurricane came long ago and wiped the village completely away. But there is literature about the village called St. Malo. Most of them had spread out and now their descendants are spread out in southeast Louisiana. They had a nickname back then, the Filipinos here were called the "Manilamen".

[Selurong]

Interesting topic. I'm sure this is possible, but will that happen is a better question. The thing with the Canary Islands today, is there are many people from the peninsula (mainland Spain) that are settling in the Canary Islands. I think eventually this will take a toll on the local population. The Canary Islands is the source of my people, but I actually live in a Canary Islander ethnic enclave in the USA. Here in the US, we are trying to fight to maintain our people from venturing outside of our community and mixing with non-Canarians. We are doing a pretty good job, because most of us are strictly Canarian, but hopefully we can keep that going for the next generations to come. I visit the Canary Islands regularly and I have relatives there. I am proud to be an Islander and my beautiful island culture.

What you speak of is possible, but I think what we have is too far gone and only remains a remnant in our blood. I think your indigenous people have a chance to survive. The indigenous people of my family's islands have been completely decimated. I have the blood of both the master and the slave.

Oceanus. I love the ocean. I would probably love visiting the Canary Islands. And I still think that dormant lineage can be resurected ie just look at the case of Europeans, most of whom are descended from anatomically modern humans, but a large percentage of Europeans have Neanderthal introgression which is distinct from modern humans out of Africa. The neanderthals have red or blonder hair whereas humans mostly have black. Although europeans are modern humans, their dormant neanderthal genes staged a comeback even though the Neanderthal species is extinct. You guys can do a comeback too.

[Isleño]

Lol what happened to the Filipino structures there? They should have at least left behind ruins or structures to mark their prescence (Or perhaps it was destroyed by government?). Just as when the Carthiginian, Hanno the navigator first visited the Canary island he saw many ruins. Althoug it was uninhabited.

This was St. Malo village:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/StMaloHarpersHousesBoats.jpg

[Isleño]

Lol what happened to the Filipino structures there? They should have at least left behind ruins or structures to mark their prescence (Or perhaps it was destroyed by government?). Just as when the Carthiginian, Hanno the navigator first visited the Canary island he saw many ruins. Althoug it was uninhabited.
This was the common Filipino hom in St. Malo village:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Manila_village_2.jpg

[Isleño]

Oceanus. I love the ocean. I would probably love visiting the Canary Islands. And I still think that dormant lineage can be resurected ie just look at the case of Europeans, most of whom are descended from anatomically modern humans, but a large percentage of Europeans have Neanderthal introgression which is distinct from modern humans out of Africa. The neanderthals have red or blonder hair whereas humans mostly have black. Although europeans are modern humans, their dormant neanderthal genes staged a comeback even though the Neanderthal species is extinct. You guys can do a comeback too.

Yes, the Canary Islands are beautiful. You would love them being from an island culture yourself. And yes, it's possible to revive some of the Guanche lineage.

[Isleño]

Lol what happened to the Filipino structures there? They should have at least left behind ruins or structures to mark their prescence (Or perhaps it was destroyed by government?). Just as when the Carthiginian, Hanno the navigator first visited the Canary island he saw many ruins. Althoug it was uninhabited.

St. Malo was established in 1763 by Filipinos that deserted Spanish ships from the Manila Galleon trade. At this time, Louisiana was a Spanish colony. The village lasted until 1915 and was destroyed by the 1915 hurricane in Louisiana. After the village was destroyed, many scattered to other places in southeast Louisiana, including other Filipino villages like Manila village, Alombro canal, Camp Dewey, Leon Rojas, Bayou Cholas and Bassa Bassa. All were a collection of Filipino villages that were the very first in the USA. But St. Malo was the oldest.

[Selurong]

Yes, the Canary Islands are beautiful. You would love them being from an island culture yourself. And yes, it's possible to revive some of the Guanche lineage.

What specific island in the Cannaries do you come from|

[clete27]

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I stumbled upon this forum because the member from ForumBioDiversity referred me to this forum regarding Filipinos' DNA ancestry results. Unfortunately, I don't have 23andMe results but I have Ancestry.com and National Geographical Project DNA results. They are almost similar.

I have Mediterranean and Southwestern Asian ancestry from National Geographical Project and North African ancestry(Ancestry.com).

Does they indicate that I have my ancestors from Spain? I'm curious. Thank you.

Here is my DNA result from National Geographical Project.

You really need to do 23andme. It's the most accurate. I dont really trust your results because if you're Filipino then you wont have more Northeast Asian than Southeast Asian. 23andme is a lot more specific than these results. But yes, I think that the Mediterranean and Southwest Asian does indicate Spanish ancestry, but the Southwest Asian could be from Moros (the Filipino ones, not Spanish). Remember that the Philippines had a small Arab presence before the Spanish came. if you're from the Southern Philippines, it's more likely.

[Isleño]

What specific island in the Cannaries do you come from|

My family hails from 3 islands total: Tenerife, Gran Canaria and La Gomera.

There are 7 islands.

[Timawa]

You really need to do 23andme. It's the most accurate. I dont really trust your results because if you're Filipino then you wont have more Northeast Asian than Southeast Asian. 23andme is a lot more specific than these results. But yes, I think that the Mediterranean and Southwest Asian does indicate Spanish ancestry, but the Southwest Asian could be from Moros (the Filipino ones, not Spanish). Remember that the Philippines had a small Arab presence before the Spanish came. if you're from the Southern Philippines, it's more likely.

Why do you think that 23andme is the most accurate of all these DNA results? Well, my mom's side is from Bohol(mostly Catholic and Christian ones) while my dad's side is from Bicol.

By the way, I'm new to the genealogy and am researching my ancestry.

[Iloko]

Why do you think that 23andme is the most accurate of all these DNA results? Well, my mom's side is from Bohol(mostly Catholic and Christian ones) while my dad's side is from Bicol.

By the way, I'm new to the genealogy and am researching my ancestry.
23andme uses thousands upon thousands more samples than all the others and is backed by Google Inc, so they're #1.

I do think AncestryDNA is a great product as well and I'm planning on ordering my kit soon!

[Iloko]

Here are a bunch of my fellow Filipino relatives I'm sharing with. Note there is no pic for privacy:

1:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino12_zps673a7ab0.jpg

2:
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5:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino6_zps6a86dc0f.jpg

6:
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http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino9_zps2e7dfb4d.jpg

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9:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino1_zps6bd5ee06.jpg

10:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino5_zpsbe35cf0f.jpg

11:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino3_zpse3a037b8.jpg

12:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino4_zps079246ea.jpg

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http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino4_zpsb34c60ce.jpg

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16:
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/filipino23andmeresults/filipino2_zps03a2b311.jpg

[KidMulat]

This was St. Malo village:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/StMaloHarpersHousesBoats.jpg

Oh wow an actual Louisiana Isleño.

Anyway they are still around and going strong, even kids still speak some Tagalog; the Louisiana Filipino community was able to stay mostly intact because of their long tradition of only allowing men to marry outside the community so after all this time many folks still retain Filipino religious, culinary, and religious rites.

[Isleño]

Oh wow an actual Louisiana Isleño.

Anyway they are still around and going strong, even kids still speak some Tagalog; the Louisiana Filipino community was able to stay mostly intact because of their long tradition of only allowing men to marry outside the community so after all this time many folks still retain Filipino religious, culinary, and religious rites.

Yes, I'm an actual Louisiana Isleño.

And regarding the Filipino descendants in Louisiana, they are spread out in several areas in southern Louisiana. I know quite a few of them personally.

[simple]

Yes, I'm an actual Louisiana Isleño.

And regarding the Filipino descendants in Louisiana, they are spread out in several areas in southern Louisiana. I know quite a few of them personally.

Some of them they have group facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/filamlouisiana/photos_stream

[Timawa]

I finally received my 23andme results(myself).

Ancestry Composition on Speculative Mode

http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah1/pinaywoman1/my23andmeresult_zpsd265b1d8.jpg

[aja675]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4NEDiwjPow