Please Post Photos Of Spaniards That Look White

[Anglojew]

The average Spaniard looks like this (within the Med spectrum);

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZizuwhQwMAM/TWqmLLqVnxI/AAAAAAAAAa8/F5ZdhuV1GqE/s1600/Spaniard.jpg

Many however look non-white like this (Daniel Pacheco);

http://assets1.lfcimages.com/uploads/players/mpro_daniel_pacheco_263X.jpg

Please post white-looking Spanish examples.

[Harkonnen]

http://heahea.org/img/389-Impossibru.jpg

[Isleño]

The average Spaniard looks like this (within the Med spectrum);

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZizuwhQwMAM/TWqmLLqVnxI/AAAAAAAAAa8/F5ZdhuV1GqE/s1600/Spaniard.jpg

Many however look non-white like this (Daniel Pacheco);

http://assets1.lfcimages.com/uploads/players/mpro_daniel_pacheco_263X.jpg

Please post white-looking Spanish examples.
Daniel Pacheco is not the average. He looks to be gypsy/moro admixed. Most are not like him.

[Anglojew]

Daniel Pacheco is not the average. He looks to be gypsy/moro admixed. Most are not like him.

True. Only a minority probably.

[Empecinado]

No le sigáis el rollo al rabocapado.

[Mortimer]

this is how i imagine a typical spaniard
http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hl/hl2005.JPG

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

i think average whites/southern euros

[Anglojew]

this is how i imagine a typical spaniard
http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hl/hl2005.JPG

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

i think average whites/southern euros

I was surprised when I visited how diverse the phenotypes were. Everything from Nordid to Berberid and Arabid. Mainly Meds and Atlantids though.

[Mortimer]

I was surprised when I visited how diverse the phenotypes were. Everything from Nordid to Berberid and Arabid. Mainly Meds and Atlantids though.

yeah it is diverse i guess, but i think that 99% look white, a white subrace, berberid not really maybe berid. they are racist to "moros"/brown people etc. so they must be white.

[Anglojew]

yeah it is diverse i guess, but i think that 99% look white, a white subrace, berberid not really maybe berid. they are racist to "moros"/brown people etc. so they must be white.

A lot seem to look like this;

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/130/8/a/oscar_jaeneda___the_spaniard_by_uniquenudes-d3g21jn.jpg

Or darker pigmented;

http://www.corazonblanco.com/media/galeria/44/1/4/6/3/n_real_madrid_miguel_torres-593641.jpg

[Mortimer]

are you sure the second one is a ethnic spaniard, hard to believe

[Aurora]

jhkjhk

[Caismeachd]

I could post some photos of my friends family but I don't want to violate privacy.

There is a full spectrum in Spain. From people that look north african to ones that look celtic. Generally they look average though. Not too dark. Not too pale. Greenish hazel eyes etc.

[Anglojew]

are you sure the second one is a ethnic spaniard, hard to believe

Yes.

[Anglojew]

My father, who is fully Spanish.

http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s358/ellethwyn/download_zps1a2038e7.jpg

He made a fine President

http://www.unibrowclub.com/unibrow_club_images/george_bush_possible_unibrow.jpg

[Roy]

I could post some photos of my friends family but I don't want to violate privacy.

There is a full spectrum in Spain. From people that look north african to ones that look celtic. Generally they look average though. Not too dark. Not too pale. Greenish hazel eyes etc.

Poles are not exactly Scandinavian-like blonde but Iberians stick out like sore thumbs here (in my city there are Spanish students from Erasmus and some tourists). 80% of them is noticeably dark, not to mention strongly different basic features. I noticed that some Spaniards have somewhat different hair structure too (hard to explain what is it).

[Cristiano viejo]

Some white Spaniards

http://www.ftiyemen.com/110.jpg
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Drake-Jew.jpg
http://jewishfaces.com/silverman_04.jpeg
http://trutube.tv/images/avatars/1402.jpg
http://www.natgeocreative.com/comp/04/017/387875.jpg
http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/images/bleeding_teenager.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Lev5pHSdoSs/Tz1GCcCMk6I/AAAAAAAAAXI/h5QSVTe0y6k/s1600/hebron-settlers-46_1127406c.jpg
http://nahidaexiledpalestinian.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/jewish2bracism8.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JrVfS5BbN0Q/T7muB215gQI/AAAAAAAACaU/Volu8l42EEA/s1600/Borat-flag.jpeg

[Tooting Carmen]

From the Spanish football team:

Inigo Martinez
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Inigo+Martinez+Spain+v+Russia+U6poZq8RoSRl.jpg

Gerard Pique
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/article6422828.ece/alternates/w460/Gerard%20Pique.jpg

Fernando Torres
http://cdn-premiere.ladmedia.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/public/news-people/fernando-torres-la-star-de-liverpool-est-papa-pour-la-deuxieme-fois/37282072-1-fre-FR/Fernando-Torres-la-star-de-Liverpool-est-papa-pour-la-deuxieme-fois_portrait_w532.jpg

Nacho Monreal
http://ep.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/45800/45844.2.jpg

Iker Muniain
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/250006102.jpg

Carlos Puyol
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/young-puyol/pa-505018.jpg

Alberto Moreno
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alberto+Moreno+Spain+v+Russia+mH8JH9J2tzjx.jpg

David de Gea
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/9/9/1315597502010/David-de-Gea-Manchester-U-007.jpg

Sergio Ramos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Sergio_Ramos_Euro_2012_vs_France_01.jpg

Fernando Llorente
http://files.stv.tv/imagebase/166/623x349/166774-fernando-llorente-spain-and-athletic-bilbao-october-2010.jpg

Roberto Soldado
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2013/8/1/1375372078450/Roberto-Soldado-008.jpg

Michu
http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/141912/article_9b812dd78de153b8_1357208815_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

Nacho Fernandez
http://images.lainformacion.com/cms/nacho-dice-que-mi-objetivo-es-ganarme-la-confianza-del-entrenador-y-tener-minutos/2013_7_16_y7iDj85xRjFBzGneVGd3S1.jpg?width=645&height=645&type=flat&id=VicZQb1rrarn4q2dYrOZu6&time=1373976254&project=lainformacion

Jordi Alba
http://www.fifa.com/imgml/tournament/confederationscup2013/players/xl/306954.png

Cesar Azpilicueta
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2013/324x324/103827.jpg

Juan Mata
http://sites.psu.edu/epljunk/wp-content/uploads/sites/7084/2014/01/104584.jpg

Xabi Alonso
http://www.sofoot.com/IMG/img-papa-xabi-alonso-parle-transfert-1366271768_620_400_crop_articles-168745.jpg

[Aurora]

hkhjkh

[Antimage]

I consider spaniards white. I don't understand why people think only pale skinned, light haired and light eyed people can be white.By those standards only 10% of european are white

[Panormus]

All this trolling against the iberians is ridicolous

[Tooting Carmen]

Like others have said, Spaniards have a spectrum ranging from Northern European-looking to North African-looking. From my "Spanish male MPs ages 18-39" thread, there are some who are Northern/Central European-looking such as these:
http://s.libertaddigital.com/fotos/noticias/casadonnggldtv.jpg
http://www.socialistes.cat/files/avatars/people/German2.JPG

While others look distinctly Iberian/Southern European, such as these:
http://www.ppmurcia.org/elecciones-generales-2011/fotos%20candidatos/congreso/09_teodoro-garcia-egea.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6672170781_f4d64ffb82_o.jpg

While others can resemble North Africans, such as these:
http://gyg.altuxa.com/files/2011/02/dibujo1.png?file=2011/02/dibujo1.png http://www.diarioprogresista.es/imagenes/fotosdeldia/5482_pablo_martin_pere_psoe.jpg

Here is the whole thread: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?113450-Spanish-male-MPs-ages-18-39

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Stupid thread. :picard1: trolling jew much?

I have notice here that you are kind of anti-Spain/Spanish, What did they do to you to make this trolling anti-Spanish threads? lol did they discriminate you're huge hook crooked beak nose or something? :rolleyes:

[Tooting Carmen]

Stupid thread. :picard1: trolling jew much?

I have notice here that you are kind of anti-Spain/Spanish, What did they did to you make this trolling anti-Spanish threads? lol did they discriminate you're huge hook crooked beak nose or something? :rolleyes:

Well, it is true that, from the perspective of most of Europe (i.e. anywhere North of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube), there are SOME Spaniards who look semi-European or even non-European, but they are a minority by far. Most Spaniards look like dark-haired/eyed Europeans, which is most certainly NOT the same thing as looking like MENAs or Mestizos.

[arcticwolf]

The ones that have a pseudo central european look, have different features. As others said, it's not about being darker, they are just different. There are few Poles that could pass for Spaniards, and vice versa. Of course they are white, posting a north African and calling him spanish is as accurate as posting an Armenian and calling him a Slavic Pole. People do it, but only clueless suckers buy it.

But, let me not derail a troll thread, I feel bad about that! :laugh:

[Alessio]

Nope I know many Spaniards even darker than him.


are you sure the second one is a ethnic spaniard, hard to believe

[Mortimer]

Nope I know many Spaniards even darker than him.

he must have a tan from sun i guess because he is as dark as an indian in that photo (to me you may disagree)

[Alessio]

Yes it's a sun tan for sure, but I mean in terms of Southern Med like phenotype rather than his skincolour alone.

he must have a tan from sun i guess because he is as dark as an indian in that photo (to me you may disagree)

[Mortimer]

Yes it's a sun tan for sure, but I mean in terms of Southern Med like phenotype rather than his skincolour alone.

ok

[Yehiel]

i cant find any

[Alessio]

Who says those types can't be native of Southern Europe, but were later in time outnumbered by Celts, Germanics and other tribes who phenotypically looked ''lighter'' who mixed with the original Iberians or Southern Europeans, wich resulted in these types you've posted..?

I mean climate produces certain phenotypical traits over time..


Well, it is true that, from the perspective of most of Europe (i.e. anywhere North of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube), there are SOME Spaniards who look semi-European or even non-European, but they are a minority by far. Most Spaniards look like dark-haired/eyed Europeans, which is most certainly NOT the same thing as looking like MENAs or Mestizos.

[Alessio]

You're a great example! Phenotypically you look almost 100 % Dutch with some minor East med influences :p


i cant find any

[Raikaswinþs]

AngloJew , you seriously need some Spain detox. For realsies. Rightwing racists are on the rise all over Europe whereas in Spain their support is plummeting and people is largely turning on left wing initiatives. It is among the least racist, least homophobic countries in Europe and was it not for its endemic nepotism and corruption, it would be among the finest places to live. People in Spain don't even believe in Jew conspiracies and don't even spend time talking at all about Jews. It is a non-issue except for the occasional internet loons and fruitcakes. Left wing wankers tend to be anti anti-sionism and pro-palestines, but so are left wingers elsewhere, including Israel. Your fixation on Spain can't possibly come from it being a more Hebrewphobic than average. Perhaps it is even below average.

People blame their own politicians and the international oligarchies for the countries troubles, not the Jews or other nationalities.Don't take my word for that, just look at the results of the Euro elections. When you hear a Spaniard talking about our government in comparison with, let's say the German, it seldom is victimism about how Germans are cruel nazis but more like "they are efficient and less prone to corruption, therefore a government to look up at". You don't see the Spanish media painting swastikas on Merkel charicatures . And we are definitely a much better sport than most others when it comes t laugh at ourselves and react rationally to caricaturization.

To illustrate this, a couple of days ago this Australian advertising ridiculing Spaniards made the front page of the Spanish top reddit clone. http://www.meneame.net/story/asi-anuncia-mcdonald-s-australia-bocadillo-espanol-eng

The reactions were fast and abundant, but of hundreds of comments, I failed to find a single one that expressed outrage or anger against Australia, McDonalds or the advertisement. It was all a good laugh and mostly inside jokes and puns. Now try to think of the same add portraying Jews, Muslims or Germans in similar fashion, taking the stereotypes to the extreme and adding a few more.
you know that would escalate freaking quickly to full diplomatic level tensions if not riots and cars burning.

Now leave the Spaniards alone and find a new topic, plzz

[Yehiel]

You're a great example! Phenotypically you look almost 100 % Dutch with some minor East med influences :p

example ofa white spaniard?

[Alessio]

Haha no, an example of how one can phenotypically look different from most others in his/her community or tribe.


example ofa white spaniard?

[Yehiel]

Haha no, an example of how one can phenotypically look different from most others in his/her community or tribe.

oh yes than i agree with you

[Mortimer]

Haha no, an example of how one can phenotypically look different from most others in his/her community or tribe.

he isnt atypical because he is only a quarter sephardi and three quarter northern or eastern european, i think he looks what he is

[Alessio]

That explains a lot !


he isnt atypical because he is only a quarter sephardi and three quarter northern or eastern european, i think he looks what he is

[Anglojew]

From the Spanish football team:

Inigo Martinez
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Inigo+Martinez+Spain+v+Russia+U6poZq8RoSRl.jpg

Gerard Pique
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/article6422828.ece/alternates/w460/Gerard%20Pique.jpg

Fernando Torres
http://cdn-premiere.ladmedia.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/public/news-people/fernando-torres-la-star-de-liverpool-est-papa-pour-la-deuxieme-fois/37282072-1-fre-FR/Fernando-Torres-la-star-de-Liverpool-est-papa-pour-la-deuxieme-fois_portrait_w532.jpg

Nacho Monreal
http://ep.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/45800/45844.2.jpg

Iker Muniain
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/250006102.jpg

Carlos Puyol
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/young-puyol/pa-505018.jpg

Alberto Moreno
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alberto+Moreno+Spain+v+Russia+mH8JH9J2tzjx.jpg

David de Gea
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/9/9/1315597502010/David-de-Gea-Manchester-U-007.jpg

Sergio Ramos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Sergio_Ramos_Euro_2012_vs_France_01.jpg

Fernando Llorente
http://files.stv.tv/imagebase/166/623x349/166774-fernando-llorente-spain-and-athletic-bilbao-october-2010.jpg

Roberto Soldado
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2013/8/1/1375372078450/Roberto-Soldado-008.jpg

Michu
http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/141912/article_9b812dd78de153b8_1357208815_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

Nacho Fernandez
http://images.lainformacion.com/cms/nacho-dice-que-mi-objetivo-es-ganarme-la-confianza-del-entrenador-y-tener-minutos/2013_7_16_y7iDj85xRjFBzGneVGd3S1.jpg?width=645&height=645&type=flat&id=VicZQb1rrarn4q2dYrOZu6&time=1373976254&project=lainformacion

Jordi Alba
http://www.fifa.com/imgml/tournament/confederationscup2013/players/xl/306954.png

A lot of them could be British (or Irish).

[Comte Arnau]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qxZ20RUfyO0/Thbq5uHYoJI/AAAAAAAAAi4/uMmn5-NXW7M/s400/tomar%2Bel%2Bsol%2Bcamaron%2Bgamba%255B10%255D.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pQfGJtT5JDc/Te93QvvgSnI/AAAAAAAAAxk/ZWwjmsw3eCY/s1600/rodolfo.jpg

The fourth, of course. The first three are Brits.

[Anglojew]

This guy, Miguel Maestre, is a famous Spanish chef in Australia. He has an interesting look;

http://images.tenplay.com.au/~/media/TV%20Shows/Living%20Room/Bio/Design/TLR_About_MiguelMaestre_small.jpg

http://www.thalabeach.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/miguel-maestre1-199x300.jpg

https://www.beanscenemag.com.au/uploads/beanscene/articles/bs-august-celebritychef-lrg.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

A lot of them could be British (or Irish).

Some of them could, but others such as Iker Muniain and Jordi Alba still look distinctly Iberian despite the lighter pigmentation. It is the eyes and the facial shape that usually give them away. Imo, back to what I was saying earlier, most Spaniards - circa 60% - look distinctly Iberian/Southern European, while another 30% or so could pass in the British Isles (of whom some could also pass in the more 'Germanic'/blonder countries in Northern Europe). Finally, there is a very dark-pigmented 10% or so who principally resemble NW African Berbers, though there are occasional ones who could pass as Middle Easterners or even light/atypical Pakistanis (before people accuse me of trolling Spaniards, there are other Southern Europeans who could pass as light Pakistanis too).

[alnortedelsur]

Typical Spaniard, according to JEW-lywood:
http://elartedeapperley.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/bailaora-gitana3.jpg?w=545

The Spaniard woman from my avatar, must be from another planet:rolleyes:

[Tooting Carmen]

Typical Spaniard, according to JEW-lywood:
http://elartedeapperley.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/bailaora-gitana3.jpg?w=545

Typical Mexican, according to the telenovelas:
http://www.stud-center.com/wallpaper/paulina-rubio/paulina-rubio-110870.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

Typical Mexican, according to the telenovelas:
http://www.stud-center.com/wallpaper/paulina-rubio/paulina-rubio-110870.jpg

I don't know why you bring Mexicans into this discussion.

Though this is not relevant to this discussion, I am going to say something on behalf of Mexicans:

I guess that the stereotype about ALL Mexico being a predominantly Amerindian/indo-mestizo country, is because a lot of the illegal Mexicans that come to the states, are from the southern states of Mexico, in which the amerindian/indomestizo look is predominant in a good part of their population (particularly among the lower class from those southern Mexican states), and many illiterate people think that ALL Mexicans look like those lower class southern Mexican immigrants.

But Mexico gets lighter as you move towards the north/northwest of the country, being the center of the country (DF, Mexico state, Hidalgo, Michoacan, Jalisco, etc) an intermediate area in which there is a good amount of everything (ranging from indo-mestizos to whites and castizos, and including a good number of balanced mestizos between those two extremes), and being most of the northern states, a place with a high degree of Spanish heritage, where whites, castizos and harnizos predominate.

Many people insist that Mexicans only show white people on their TV, which is false. I have seen many mexican TV shows, short drama stories, and soap operas, and they also show many mestizo and castizo people. What happens is that some ignorant people would expect to see only Amerindians and indo-mestizos, because they think that almost ALL Mexicans are like the poor immigrants from Oaxaca, Guerrero, Quintana Roo or Tabasco. But Mexico, as a whole, is NOT a majority Amerindian/indo-mestizo country like Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala.

BTW, the predominant European ancestry in most white and castizo Mexicans, including that Mexican actress of your example and most white Mexicans from the telenovelas, is SPANISH.

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't know why you bring Mexicans into this discussion.

Though this is not relevant to this discussion, I am going to say something on behalf of Mexicans:

I guess that the stereotype about ALL Mexico being a predominantly Amerindian/indo-mestizo place, is because most illegal Mexicans that come to the states, are from the southern states of Mexico, in which the amerindian/indomestizo look is predominant in a good part of their population (particularly among the lower class from those southern Mexican states), and many illiterate people think that ALL Mexicans look like those lower class southern Mexican immigrants.

But Mexico gets lighter as you move towards the north/northwest of the country, being the center of the country (DF, Mexico state, Hidalgo, Michoacan, Jalisco, etc) an intermediate area in which there is a good amount of everything (ranging from indo-mestizos to whites and castizos, and including a good number of balanced mestizos between those two extremes), and being most of the northern states, a place with a high degree of Spanish heritage, where whites, castizos and harnizos predominate.

True, but...


Many people insist that Mexicans only show white people on their TV, which is false. I have seen many mexican TV shows, short drama stories, and soap operas, and they also show many mestizo and castizo people. What happens is that some ignorant people would expect to see only Amerindians and indo-mestizos, because they think that ALL Mexicans are like the poor immigrants from Oaxaca, Guerrero, Quintana Roo or Tabasco. But Mexico, as a whole, is NOT a majority Amerindian/indo-mestizo country like Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala.

Mexican actors and TV presenters are not entirely White, but VERY DISPROPORTIONATELY so compared to the general population. Just like how Bollywood cherrypicks lighter-skinned actors much of the time too, for example.


BTW, the predominant European ancestry in most white and castizo Mexicans, including that Mexican woman of your example and most white Mexicans from the telenovelas, is SPANISH.

Who is disputing that? What's your point?

What I was trying to prove is that, in many parts of the world, the tendency is for the media to over-exaggerate the LIGHTNESS of a given ethnicity/nationality, so for the media to exaggerate the DARKNESS of one is actually pretty unusual and goes against the grain.

[Han Cholo]

True, but...



Mexican actors and TV presenters are not entirely White, but VERY DISPROPORTIONATELY so compared to the general population. Just like how Bollywood cherrypicks lighter-skinned actors much of the time too, for example.

Have you seen some of the Mexican members here? Either way, remember Televisa is a monopoly and private corporation. The opinion of general Mexicans don't count too much on this.




What I was trying to prove is that, in many parts of the world, the tendency is for the media to over-exaggerate the LIGHTNESS of a given ethnicity/nationality, so for the media to exaggerate the DARKNESS of one is actually pretty unusual and goes against the grain.

Completely different context here. Telenovelas for example make more money in foreign places than in Mexico.

[Anglojew]

Have you seen some of the Mexican members here? Either way, remember Televisa is a monopoly and private corporation. The opinion of general Mexicans don't count too much on this.




Completely different context here. Telenovelas for example make more money in foreign places than in Mexico.

Your sig pic is very creepy

[Isleño]

this is how i imagine a typical spaniard
http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hl/hl2005.JPG

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

i think average whites/southern euros

The phenotype of the girl with the face paint of the Spanish flag on her face is my phenotype.

[Tooting Carmen]

What do people think of the footballers I posted as examples of lighter Spaniards? Or the photos of politicians to represent the general spectrum of phenotypes.

[Tooting Carmen]

The phenotype of the girl with the face paint of the Spanish flag on her face is my phenotype.

Oh really? If that avatar is you, then I have news for you: you look just like a South Asian guy I know.

[Han Cholo]

Oh really? If that avatar is you, then I have news for you: you look just like a South Asian guy I know.

...in a 100x100 webcam pic that is all within shadows.

[Tooting Carmen]

...in a 100x100 webcam pic that is all within shadows.

We'll need some better photos of him then.

[Isleño]

Yes it's a sun tan for sure, but I mean in terms of Southern Med like phenotype rather than his skincolour alone.

That is not average in Iberia.

[Sikeliot]

Based on what I have seen of Spaniards I'd say that around 25% of them could pass in northern France, Ireland, UK etc. Another 25% look distinctly Iberian and as such would be instantly recognizable as such, much like the Portuguese. The remainder are various Med types ranging from western-looking Atlanto-Meds, to more general Med types (like what is found in say, Greece and Italy) and even some exotic types resembling some North Africans.

[Isleño]

Oh really? If that avatar is you, then I have news for you: you look just like a South Asian guy I know.

Yes that avatar is me. South Asian? No way! I am Canarian in ancestry. I don't think I look anything like a South Asian. I've been told anywhere from Iberia to France to Italy to even white Latin American.

[Isleño]

Based on what I have seen of Spaniards I'd say that around 25% of them could pass in northern France, Ireland, UK etc. Another 25% look distinctly Iberian and as such would be instantly recognizable as such, much like the Portuguese. The remainder are various Med types ranging from western-looking Atlanto-Meds, to more general Med types (like what is found in say, Greece and Italy) and even some exotic types resembling some North Africans.

Sikeliot, I think you got that one right.

[Sikeliot]

Yes that avatar is me. South Asian? No way! I am Canarian in ancestry. I don't think I look anything like a South Asian. I've been told anywhere from Iberia to France to Italy to even white Latin American.

You don't look Italian. More like a southern Iberian with significant Cromagnid and minor North African. Also not sure that you could pass as an ethnic French.

[Isleño]

...in a 100x100 webcam pic that is all within shadows.

Good observation.

[Isleño]

You don't look Italian. More like a southern Iberian with significant Cromagnid and minor North African. Also not sure that you could pass as an ethnic French.
I was just saying what people have told me. I think maybe my fit is in Iberia.

[Isleño]

You don't look Italian. More like a southern Iberian with significant Cromagnid and minor North African. Also not sure that you could pass as an ethnic French.

But you have to remember, Canarians are made up of ancestry from all over Iberia, not just one region.

[Isleño]

We'll need some better photos of him then.

I think you had a good observation about the average Spaniard/Southern European.

[Armando Esteban Quito]

Good observation.

You should make a classification thread.

[Isleño]

I feel like this thread is an attack on the "whiteness" of Spanish people. Of course Spaniards are whites. Southern European whites.

[Isleño]

You should make a classification thread.

On myself? Haha.... not really. But I do feel I'm relevant to this discussion being my entire family is from Spain :)

[Sikeliot]

I think the looks in Spain differ by region. Northern and central Spain are more heavily Atlantid, Atlanto-Med etc. and have a Celtic sort of look, while people along the eastern and southern coast look more Mediterranean. Berids are common toward the border with Portugal, and in Andalusia.

[Alessio]

True, those people I mentioned were mostly from Andalucia like Malaga, Cordoba and Sevilla.


That is not average in Iberia.

[Isleño]

I think some of the ignorant Hollywood ideas of how a Spaniard is suppose to look are very ignorant and nothing more than a foolish stereotype.

[Smeagol]

I think the looks in Spain differ by region. Northern and central Spain are more heavily Atlantid, Atlanto-Med etc. and have a Celtic sort of look, while people along the eastern and southern coast look more Mediterranean. Berids are common toward the border with Portugal, and in Andalusia.

I don't think "Atlantid/Atlantomed" look should be associated with Celts, since that doesn't really make much sense historically. Also Spaniards as a whole look the same to me, What I mean is there are no huge differences by region I think.

[Isleño]

I think the looks in Spain differ by region. Northern and central Spain are more heavily Atlantid, Atlanto-Med etc. and have a Celtic sort of look, while people along the eastern and southern coast look more Mediterranean. Berids are common toward the border with Portugal, and in Andalusia.

Very good observation my friend. I would say that is correct. But with one exception, the types that can be found in the south can be found north and ones that could be found north can be found south too. Remember, there was a large population of northerners that populated the south when the Muslims were expelled from Spain.

[Sikeliot]

Also I often notice that people from the eastern coast do have a look similar to some Greeks, and similar to some southern Italians (except without the Armenoid and Dinarid influence).

[Isleño]

True, those people I mentioned were mostly from Andalucia like Malaga, Cordoba and Sevilla.

But that type is not the common type in Andalucía. They do exist though, the children of the moros.

[alnortedelsur]

What do people think of the footballers I posted as examples of lighter Spaniards? Or the photos of politicians to represent the general spectrum of phenotypes.

That light Spaniards like those footballers are quite common. Much more common than what Anglojew and Jewzel (o como mierda se escriba) pretend.

[Isleño]

I don't think "Atlantid/Atlantomed" look should be associated with Celts, since that doesn't really make much sense historically. Also Spaniards as a whole look the same to me, What I mean is there are no huge differences by region I think.

There are concentrations of certain types in Iberia per region. But that doesn't mean a certain region is that type only. All Spanish phenotypes are found in all regions of Spain.

[Isleño]

Also I often notice that people from the eastern coast do have a look similar to some Greeks, and similar to some southern Italians (except without the Armenoid and Dinarid influence).
There was a small bit of Greeks settle on the eastern coast of Iberia in ancient times. But I wouldn't say it was large. But maybe what you are seeing at times is one of those mysterious mutations, lol

[Isleño]

That light Spaniards like those footballers are quite common. Much more more common than what Anglojew and Jewzel (o como mierda se escriba) pretend.

Norte, I think Anglojew and Jewzel seek smear us. I think they are anti-Spanish Jews.

[alnortedelsur]

The phenotype of the girl with the face paint of the Spanish flag on her face is my phenotype.

I also look somewhat similar to that girl, but in male HEHEHE

And I also have a very similar pigmentation as her, the same hair color and skin color, except that my eyes are blue.

I if you and me look like her to some degree, I guess that's because we all share a very Spaniard look.:thumb001:

[Anglojew]

Norte, I think Anglojew and Jewzel seek smear us. I think they are anti-Spanish Jews.

How is posting white looking Spaniards anti-Spanish?

[alnortedelsur]

Also I often notice that people from the eastern coast do have a look similar to some Greeks, and similar to some southern Italians (except without the Armenoid and Dinarid influence).

The woman of my avatar is from the east coast (Valencia). Do you think she looks Greek??

[Sikeliot]

The woman of my avatar is from the east coast (Valencia). Do you think she looks Greek??

She could match some of the Pontid types.

This girl posted in another thread is from Lakonia, southern Peloponnese. She looks kind of Iberian.

http://a.media.gossip-tv.gr/items/cache/d593c4a6d01a2413e1936071709e56eb_L.jpg

[Isleño]

How is posting white looking Spaniards anti-Spanish?
Because Spaniards are whites. That's like saying bost a pic of a Negro that looks black.

[StonyArabia]

t
http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg
i think average whites/southern euros

What a beauty.

[Isleño]

I also look somewhat similar to that girl, but in male HEHEHE

And I also have a very similar pigmentation as her, the same hair color and skin color, except that my eyes are blue.

I if you and me look like her to some degree, I guess that's because we all share a very Spaniard look.:thumb001:

Yes I agree, there is an average look. Average Spanish type. Not too dark, not too light, just right :)

[Isleño]

She could match some of the Pontid types.

This girl posted in another thread is from Lakonia, southern Peloponnese. She looks kind of Iberian.

http://a.media.gossip-tv.gr/items/cache/d593c4a6d01a2413e1936071709e56eb_L.jpg

Yes, I agree in features, but not hair/skin pigment. But I guess you were shooting for features.

[Isleño]

What a beauty.

She is a beauty. Actually she looks similar to my younger sister. But I have this type of phenotype, but the male version, lol. I think she is the average Spanish phenotype.

[StonyArabia]

She is a beauty. Actually she looks similar to my younger sister. But I have this type of phenotype, but the male version, lol. I think she is the average Spanish phenotype.

Iberian women to be honest are my favorite women out of the European ones.

[Anglojew]

Because Spaniards are whites. That's like saying bost a pic of a Negro that looks black.

Not all Spaniards are white;
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?127214-Please-Post-Photos-Of-Spaniards-That-DON-T-Look-White

[Armando Esteban Quito]

Typical Mexican, according to the telenovelas:


Who the hell is talking about Mexicans here? :picard1:

[alnortedelsur]

She could match some of the Pontid types.

This girl posted in another thread is from Lakonia, southern Peloponnese. She looks kind of Iberian.

http://a.media.gossip-tv.gr/items/cache/d593c4a6d01a2413e1936071709e56eb_L.jpg

Yes, I saw that thread, and that Greek girl is very pretty:thumb001: I think she would pass in Spain with no problem, but must other Greeks (including light Greeks because I am talking about features, not about pigmentation) have a distinctive Greek look.

I insist that Iberians are very uniform and there are NOT big differences among Spaniards from the different regions. There are also plenty of light Iberians (including people with "Celtic" look) in eastern and southern Spain. There are maybe a bit more light Spaniards in central and northern Spain, but the difference is hardly noticeable.

I am almost half Mallorcan (from my Spanish mom's side who is from Mallorca and most of her ancestry is Mallorcan), and I look very similar to this Spanish girl, in facial structure and in pigmentation (except that I have blue eyes):

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

And for the records: I was living in Mallorca for a period of time, and there were plenty of Mallorcan people with the same or similar pigmentation as me. And my mom also has a light brown hair and green eyes. The fairy tale that most people from Balearic Islands, Valencia, Murcia and Andalusia are all "archetypically Mediterranean" and "very distinct" on average, from central and northern Spaniards, is another stereotypical BULL SHIT.

[Awebo]

Typical Mexican, according to the telenovelas:
http://www.stud-center.com/wallpaper/paulina-rubio/paulina-rubio-110870.jpg
She's a mestiza, so i guess telenovelas are correct.

Here she is with her brother.
http://i.imgur.com/k2RwPuP.jpg

[Sikeliot]

^ She looks like my Lebanese neighbor.

[Isleño]

Not all Spaniards are white;
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?127214-Please-Post-Photos-Of-Spaniards-That-DON-T-Look-White
Dude the overwhelming majority of Spaniards are white. Those who are not are so few in percentage, almost to the point that it doesn't even count. Spaniards are white. You are just some anti-Spanish Jewish admixed European. I've seen your threads on Spaniards about white this or non-white that.....It will be a short period of time before I start closing these types threads you make. They are too controversial.

[Isleño]

Yes, I saw that thread, and that Greek girl is very pretty:thumb001: I think she would pass in Spain with no problem, but must other Greeks (including light Greeks because I am talking about features, not about pigmentation) have a distinctive Greek look.

I insist that Iberians are very uniform and there are NOT big differences among Spaniards from the different regions. There are also plenty of light Iberians (including people with "Celtic" look) in eastern and southern Spain. There are maybe a bit more light Spaniards in central and northern Spain, but the difference is hardly noticeable.

I am almost half Mallorcan (from my Spanish mom's side who is from Mallorca and most of her ancestry is Mallorcan), and I look very similar to this girl, in facial structure and in pigmentation (except that I have blue eyes):

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

And for the records: I was living in Mallorca for a period of time, and there were plenty of Mallorcan people with the same or similar pigmentation as me. And my mom also has a light brown hair and green eyes. The fairy tale that most people from Balearic Islands, Valencia, Murcia and Andalusia are all "archetypically Mediterranean" and "very distinct" on average, from central and northern Spaniards, is another stereotypical BULL SHIT.

Norte, I think you are absolutely correct! There is an Iberian "base" that is pretty common among the Spanish people. This is because the great majority of Spaniards are Celtiberian. This mix of Celtic and Ancient Iberian is the core. And I agree with you about the Greek girl, she could pass in Iberia, but Greeks in general have a bit of a different look, but not extremely dissimilar.

And cheers to another "Spanish Islander"! I am also a "Spanish Islander" 100% Canarian! (my family is from Canary Islands originally, I grew up in the U.S. but visit/live in the Canary Islands often) And look at my phenotype, I can easily be an Iberian (Because my genetics are!)

[Isleño]

^ She looks like my Lebanese neighbor.

I could see how she could pass as a Levantine. She looks castiza to me. But you never know, there were many Lebanese that settled in Mexico.

[Anglojew]

Dude the overwhelming majority of Spaniards are white. Those who are not are so few in percentage, almost to the point that it doesn't even count. Spaniards are white. You are just some anti-Spanish Jewish admixed European. I've seen your threads on Spaniards about white this or non-white that.....It will be a short period of time before I start closing these types threads you make. They are too controversial.

I assume you'll apply the same standards to the anti-Jewish threads on this forum?

[Sikeliot]

And I agree with you about the Greek girl, she could pass in Iberia, but Greeks in general have a bit of a different look, but not extremely dissimilar.

Greeks who have a Pontid or North Pontid look, are like a Balkan equivalent of Atlanto-Med and North Atlantid types in Iberia and Western Europe. But in general I agree. One of the posters here told me he went to a Greek festival and saw that Pontid is the dominant look, but that the people looked Eastern European and not even like Italians nor as dark as he'd expect, so this confirms what I have been saying about Slavic influence (which, obviously is lacking in Iberians).

[alnortedelsur]

Yes I agree, there is an average look. Average Spanish type. Not too dark, not too light, just right :)

That's why most of the Spanish women that I post for classification (including the woman of my avatar), are not too light nor too dark, just very average in Spain.:thumb001:

I even remember that I opened a thread to classify this girl:

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

But it was long time ago, and I don't find the link:icon_sad:

[alnortedelsur]

Norte, I think you are absolutely correct! There is an Iberian "base" that is pretty common among the Spanish people. This is because the great majority of Spaniards are Celtiberian. This mix of Celtic and Ancient Iberian is the core. And I agree with you about the Greek girl, she could pass in Iberia, but Greeks in general have a bit of a different look, but not extremely dissimilar.

And cheers to another "Spanish Islander"! I am also a "Spanish Islander" 100% Canarian! (my family is from Canary Islands originally, I grew up in the U.S. but visit/live in the Canary Islands often) And look at my phenotype, I can easily be an Iberian (Because my genetics are!)

And surprise!! is very likely that part of the Spanish ancestry from my Venezuelan dad's side is from Canaries:thumb001:

And as I said, my Mallorcan mom is mostly Mallorcan but she also has a small amount of Andalusian heritage from her dad's side (the grandma of my maternal grandpa, was from Cordoba, Andalusia).

That means that I have a lot of ancestry from eastern (Mallorca) and southern (Canaries, Andalusia) Spain, and yet, I am light brown haired, blue eyed and light skinned.

I also have two sisters that look kind like the Spaniard girl that you and me look like (though one of my two sisters has reddish flashes in her hair), have two other light brown haired brothers, my dad is blond and blue eyed, and my mom is light brown haired and has green eyes, and I still have to hear people saying that most eastern and southern Spaniards are "archetypical meds".:picard1:

[Isleño]

I assume you'll apply the same standards to the anti-Jewish threads on this forum?

Of course. I have nothing against Jews. But I do have something against anti-Spanish members. If you don't like me or my kind, I don't like you. You being a Jew should understand this. So I suggest you stop making anti-Spanish threads questioning the "whiteness" of Spaniards, suggesting we are somehow something foreign.

[Isleño]

And surprise!! is very likely that part of the Spanish ancestry from my Venezuelan dad's side is from Canaries:thumb001:

And as I said, my Mallorcan mom is mostly Mallorcan but she also has a small amount of Andalusian heritage from her dad's side (the grandma of my maternal grandpa, was from Cordoba, Andalusia).

That means that I have a lot of ancestry from eastern (Mallorca) and southern (Canaries, Andalusia) Spain, and yet, I am light brown haired, blue eyed and light skinned.

I also have two sisters that look kind like the Spaniard girl that you and me look like (though one of my two sisters has reddish flashes in her hair), have two other light brown haired brothers, my dad is blond and blue eyed, and my mom is light brown haired and has green eyes, and I still have to hear people saying that most eastern and southern Spaniards are "archetypical meds".:picard1:

Ha! You are part Canarian.....AWESOME!!! Surely if you are half Venezuelan you are part Canarian, as the Venezuelans have our blood. Lol, now I can say to you "somos mas Canario que el gofio!!!" But to address your family's features, my own family has similar features. Some have lighter or darker hair, some even reddish. Some have green, blue, hazel or brown eyes and some are fair, medium and olive. We are a beautiful Spanish family! The phenotype range in my family ranges from Atlantid/Atlanto-Mediterranean to Berid and all in between. Canarias has ancestry from all parts of Iberia.

[Isleño]

Greeks who have a Pontid or North Pontid look, are like a Balkan equivalent of Atlanto-Med and North Atlantid types in Iberia and Western Europe. But in general I agree. One of the posters here told me he went to a Greek festival and saw that Pontid is the dominant look, but that the people looked Eastern European and not even like Italians nor as dark as he'd expect, so this confirms what I have been saying about Slavic influence (which, obviously is lacking in Iberians).
I've always believed in a sizable Slavic influence in Greece. Of course, Iberians don't have this influence.

[StonyArabia]

Btw one of the misses of Iraq was half Portuguese half Iraqi:). Her dad was from the Syrian Desert region and her mom was Portuguese, she was prefect blend of Arabian and Iberian beauty. Iberian women are the most beautiful far superior to the North or East, this how my taste has evolved in recent years. Just look at Michelle Nunz what breath taking away beauty.

[Empecinado]

Otro tema exitoso del rabocapado, en parte por culpa de los obsesos con los fenotipos españoles que creen saber más de éstos que los propios españoles (y que no pillan cuando un tema es troleo) y en parte por culpa de Alnortedelsur que no menos obseso siempre entra al trapo como un toro desbocado a la mínima que dicho judío u otro extraeuropeo abre un tema para trolear a los españoles. Al rabocapado ni agua, joder. Ignoradles simplemente.

[Anglojew]

Of course. I have nothing against Jews. But I do have something against anti-Spanish members. If you don't like me or my kind, I don't like you. You being a Jew should understand this. So I suggest you stop making anti-Spanish threads questioning the "whiteness" of Spaniards, suggesting we are somehow something foreign.

Aren't you American?

[templumForasticus]

http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/spanish-girl_07.jpg

She doesn´t overcome my quality control.

To find a beautiful girl you have to reject many ugly.

[Isleño]

Aren't you American?

Yes, I'm an American. But American is my nationality because I was born here. My entire family came here to the U.S. from Spain. I am Spanish-American.

[Tooting Carmen]

Of course. I have nothing against Jews. But I do have something against anti-Spanish members. If you don't like me or my kind, I don't like you. You being a Jew should understand this. So I suggest you stop making anti-Spanish threads questioning the "whiteness" of Spaniards, suggesting we are somehow something foreign.

I'll repeat what I said earlier in response to MartinV Gladiator:


Well, it is true that, from the perspective of most of Europe (i.e. anywhere North of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube), there are SOME Spaniards who look semi-European or even non-European, but they are a minority by far. Most Spaniards look like dark-haired/eyed Europeans, which is most certainly NOT the same thing as looking like MENAs or Mestizos.

While it is definitely true that some people, including Anglojew, do over-exaggerate the darkness of Spaniards and troll them, at the same time only a narrow-minded bigot would think there is something inherently wrong about having some people within their native population who can pass outside Europe, regardless of how high or low the proportion might be.

[Tooting Carmen]

I'd also add that some Spaniards over-estimate their overlap with the French (interesting how the reverse doesn't really occur). While certainly there is much overlap individually, at the same time the French have a MUCH larger Germanic/Northern European strand to them, and correspondingly far fewer 'exotic' types (before the retards come in, I'm strictly talking about the native White French here). More generally, it is foolish to deny that the percentage of people with light hair/eyes does drop dramatically south of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube. Compare these two samples:

Paris City Council http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?122820-The-newly-elected-Paris-City-Council
Madrid City Council http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125064-Where-would-more-of-these-councillors-from-Madrid-pass-France-or-Greece&highlight=madrid+city+council

[Anglojew]

I'd also add that some Spaniards over-estimate their overlap with the French (interesting how the reverse doesn't really occur). While certainly there is much overlap individually, at the same time the French have a MUCH larger Germanic/Northern European strand to them, and correspondingly far fewer 'exotic' types (before the retards come in, I'm strictly talking about the native White French here). More generally, it is foolish to deny that the percentage of people with light hair/eyes does drop dramatically south of the Pyrenees, Alps and Danube. Compare these two samples:

Paris City Council http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?122820-The-newly-elected-Paris-City-Council
Madrid City Council http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125064-Where-would-more-of-these-councillors-from-Madrid-pass-France-or-Greece&highlight=madrid+city+council

Yeah, I noticed a continuum between Southern France and Northern Spain

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah, I noticed a continuum between Southern France and Northern Spain

There is, but on the other hand nowhere in France is as dark-pigmented as Andalusia, Murcia or especially the Canaries; likewise, nowhere in Spain is as light-pigmented as Normandy, Brittany, Picardy, Burgundy or Alsace-Lorraine. (OK many Alsatians are ethnically German, but even so).

[Empecinado]

There is, but on the other hand nowhere in France is as dark-pigmented as Andalusia, Murcia or especially the Canaries; likewise, nowhere in Spain is as light-pigmented as Normandy, Brittany, Picardy, Burgundy or Alsace-Lorraine. (OK many Alsatians are ethnically German, but even so).

I find funny how people who have never set a food there pretend to know better than us how Andalusians and Murcians look like. They are on pair with the other Spanish regions, only differences are: people is more tanned because the isolation is higher and the number of Gypsies is higher (especially in Sevilla and Granada). That's all. This study done by Loreal even says that Murcia is the region of Spain with highest number of blondes (13% of the inhabitants are blonde), 1/7 brown , 16% dark and 1% redhead:

http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/67514/0/TENEMOS/MAS/RUBIAS/

But it will be my last message about that, I find this so idiotic and repetitive the obsession many of you have about how Spaniards look. There's no overlap with French, nor in Andalusia nor in Asturias. There is only in the towns near the border.

[Tooting Carmen]

I find funny how people who have never set a food there pretend to know better than us how Andalusians and Murcians look like. They are on pair with the other Spanish regions, only differences are: people is more tanned because the isolation is higher and the number of Gypsies is higher (especially in Sevilla and Granada). That's all. This study done by Loreal even says that Murcia is the region of Spain with highest number of blondes (13% of the inhabitants are blonde), 1/7 brown , 16% dark and 1% redhead:

http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/67514/0/TENEMOS/MAS/RUBIAS/

But it will be my last message about that, I find this so idiotic and repetitive the obsession many of you have about how Spaniards look. There's no overlap with French, nor in Andalusia nor in Asturias. There is only in the towns near the border.

Sorry, but I have been to Andalusia lots of times (most recently in 2011). While I agree that the regional differences are much less pronounced than in Italy or even France, and that the average Andalusian is NOT any different to the average Asturian, there are more exotic types there than elsewhere, however much they may still be a minority. Examples include Antonio Banderas, Jenaro Talens, Anne Hidalgo, and the man in this thread of mine: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?124167-Classify-Jose-Martinez-Olmos-Spain-s-former-Minister-for-Health-(2005-11)-and-an-MP-for-Granada

[B01AB20]

pepito hijoputez (a true sephardic surname at last, you can check it in your jew web anglojew ;) ), back to his roots and doing his things.

he looks pretty white to me.

http://blogs.elpais.com/.a/6a00d8341bfb1653ef014e895c4527970d-pi

[Empecinado]

Sorry, but I have been to Andalusia lots of times (most recently in 2011). While I agree that the regional differences are much less pronounced than in Italy or even France, and that the average Andalusian is NOT any different to the average Asturian, there are more exotic types there than elsewhere, however much they may still be a minority. Examples include Antonio Banderas, Jenaro Talens, Anne Hidalgo, and the man in this thread of mine: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?124167-Classify-Jose-Martinez-Olmos-Spain-s-former-Minister-for-Health-(2005-11)-and-an-MP-for-Granada

From every example of "exotic" Andalusian you post, I can post a northern Spanish one: Miguel Ángel Revilla, Imanol Arias, Lucía Pérez...

[Tooting Carmen]

From every example of "exotic" Andalusian you post, I can post a northern Spanish one: Miguel Ángel Revilla, Imanol Arias, Lucía Pérez...

Of course the whole spectrum of types can be found throughout Spain, but what I am saying is that the frequency of each type varies, even if not by much.

[Empecinado]

Of course the whole spectrum of types can be found throughout Spain, but what I am saying is that the frequency of each type varies, even if not by much.

The frequency varies at local level, not regional as you pretend. That's the point.

[B01AB20]

la vita e obsesione is another one like alnortedelaobsesion :D, but in reverse mode.

que cruz y que plasta de gente, que les den.

[Tooting Carmen]

la vita e obsesione is another one like alnortedelaobsesion :D, but in reverse mode.

que cruz y que plasta de gente, que les den.

Lol? I have posted lots of light-pigmented Spaniards in this thread and have criticised Anglojew for his trolling.

[Cleitus]

Spaniards are Aryan, stop spreading such nonsense.

[B01AB20]

Lol? I have posted lots of light-pigmented Spaniards in this thread and have criticised Anglojew for his trolling.

you're being obsessive with spaniards since I met you in these forums, why don't you dedicate you obsession to venezuelans or welsh people for example?

they're 'your people' after all.

we have plenty of crazy admirers and detractors yet, we won't miss you at all.

[Tooting Carmen]

you're being obsessive with spaniards since I met you in these forums, why don't you dedicate you obsession to venezuelans or welsh people for example?

they're 'your people' after all.

we have plenty of crazy admirers and detractors yet, we won't miss you at all.

I'm half-Colombian, not half-Venezuelan. Besides, I do have lots of threads about Colombians and Welsh people too, if you cared to notice. Anyway, I have distant Spanish ancestry myself (my great grandmother was from Salamanca) and I find Spaniards interesting. What is wrong with that?

[B01AB20]

I'm half-Colombian, not half-Venezuelan. Besides, I do have lots of threads about Colombians and Welsh people too, if you cared to notice. Anyway, I have distant Spanish ancestry myself (my great grandmother was from Salamanca) and I find Spaniards interesting. What is wrong with that?

your fucking obsession man, your fucking obsession.

another one with a weird syndrome?

[Alessio]

I know it;s not common, but there are also ''darker'' med types in Euskal Herria for example but they differ in phenotype from the Andalucian decendents of Moros.


But that type is not the common type in Andalucía. They do exist though, the children of the moros.

[Empecinado]

I know it;s not common, but there are also ''darker'' med types in Euskal Herria for example but they differ in phenotype from the Andalucian decendents of Moros.

I don't get the stereotype of Andalusians being descendants of Moros when Moros migrated and were deported to North Africa. This is like saying people from Kaliningrad descend from Prussians.

[alnortedelsur]

Otro tema exitoso del rabocapado, en parte por culpa de los obsesos con los fenotipos españoles que creen saber más de éstos que los propios españoles (y que no pillan cuando un tema es troleo) y en parte por culpa de Alnortedelsur que no menos obseso siempre entra al trapo como un toro desbocado a la mínima que dicho judío u otro extraeuropeo abre un tema para trolear a los españoles. Al rabocapado ni agua, joder. Ignoradles simplemente.

Bueno, yo no sé a qué viene lo que estás diciendo, si el tema era ya exitoso antes de yo entrar, y yo apenas empecé a participar a partir de la página cinco, y ni siquiera le he contestado directamente a Anglojew.

Mi participación en este hilo ha sido más bien, mucho menos agresiva que otras veces. Así que no sé a que viene tu reclamo, y el acusarme únicamente a mí de seguirle el juego a Anglojew, cuando te recuerdo que otros le han contestado para rebatir sus memeces, antes que yo. Casi pareciera que tienes algo en particular contra mí, y pretendes que yo ni siquiera participe en este foro.

Además que pasa hombre, no tiene nada de malo refutar y dejar en ridículo las memeces que Anglojew y otros troles dicen sobre los Españoles. Eso es lo que hace interesante y divertido a este foro. Aunque por supuesto, he acabado por entender (y reconozco que he tardado mucho en hacerlo) que hay que refutarlos manteniendo un poco los cabales y sin caer en tantos insultos personales (aunque aveces no puedo evitar algún insulto que otro, pero sin pasarme), porque de otra forma le das el gusto a los troles como él y otros.

Si Anglojew o cualquier otro troll anti-Español dicen paridas sobre los Españoles, y los Españoles se quedan callados y nadie lo refuta, entonces el foro termina por volverse aburrido, y mucha gente que no ha estado en España, y cree en el estereotipo de “Spain is different”, pensara que si los Españoles no le refutan las paridas que dice, es porque será verdad y el que calla otorga

[Empecinado]

Bueno, yo no sé a qué viene lo que estás diciendo, si el tema era ya exitoso antes de yo entrar, y yo apenas empecé a participar a partir de la página cinco, y ni siquiera le he contestado directamente a Anglojew.

Mi participación en este hilo ha sido más bien, mucho menos agresiva que otras veces. Así que no sé a que viene tu reclamo, y el acusarme únicamente a mí de seguirle el juego a Anglojew, cuando te recuerdo que otros le han contestado para rebatir sus memeces, antes que yo. Casi pareciera que tienes algo en particular contra mí, y pretendes que yo ni siquiera participe en este foro.

Además que pasa hombre, no tiene nada de malo refutar y dejar en ridículo las memeces que Anglojew y otros troles dicen sobre los Españoles. Eso es lo que hace interesante y divertido a este foro. Aunque por supuesto, he acabado por entender (y reconozco que he tardado mucho en hacerlo) que hay que refutarlos manteniendo un poco los cabales y sin caer en tantos insultos, porque de otra forma le das el gusto a los troles como él y otros.

Si Anglojew o cualquier otro troll anti-Español dicen paridas sobre los Españoles, y los Españoles se quedan callados y nadie lo refuta, entonces el foro termina por volverse aburrido, y mucha gente que no ha estado en España, y cree en el estereotipo de “Spain is different”, pensara que si los Españoles no le refutan las paridas que dice, es porque será verdad y el que calla otorga

A estos infrahumanos se la suda que se les refute o no, ellos simplemente tienen su agenda trolística y abren temas anti-españoles con el objetivo de que entremos rabiosos a contestarles. Cuanto más se les conteste (y cuanto más agresivamente), más temas seguirán abriendo al respecto independientemente de que se les haya refutado o no porque repito, se la suda eso, ellos no vienen a debatir nada vienen a trollear y a buscar bilis. En cambio si los ignoramos, se acabarán cansando.

[B01AB20]

A estos infrahumanos se la suda que se les refute o no, ellos simplemente tienen su agenda trolística y abren temas anti-españoles con el objetivo de que entremos rabiosos a contestarles. Cuanto más se les conteste (y cuanto más agresivamente), más temas seguirán abriendo al respecto independientemente de que se les haya refutado o no porque repito, se la suda eso, ellos no vienen a debatir nada vienen a trollear y a buscar bilis. En cambio si los ignoramos, se acabarán cansando.

no te canses, ya se ve que el pòbre es tonto, o es tonto, no hay mas posibilidades.

[alnortedelsur]

A estos infrahumanos se la suda que se les refute o no, ellos simplemente tienen su agenda trolística y abren temas anti-españoles con el objetivo de que entremos rabiosos a contestarles. Cuanto más se les conteste (y cuanto más agresivamente), más temas seguirán abriendo al respecto independientemente de que se les haya refutado o no porque repito, se la suda eso, ellos no vienen a debatir nada vienen a trollear y a buscar bilis. En cambio si los ignoramos, se acabarán cansando.

Por eso te he recalcado que yo últimamente trato de refutarlos sin mucha agresividad y sin caer tanto en insultos personales. De esa forma no obtienen lo que ellos quieren, que es verte furioso y agresivo.

Ahora, en cuanto a no contestarles, insisto que el refutar sus memeces me resulta divertido, además de que puede ser ilustrativo para enseñarles la verdad a algunas otras personas con una visión estereotipada de España (por tener el cerebro lavado por la mass media), pero que al mismo tiempo pudiesen ser buenas personas y de mente abierta.

No importa que los troles sigan en la suya, con tal de no darles lo que quieren (que es mostrarte muy enojado), y con tal de enseñarles la verdad a otra gente, tal vez ignorante sobre España, pero con la mente suficientemente abierta para deshacerse de ciertos estereotipos, con lo que aprendan de tus respuestas para rebatir al troll.

Además, contestarles (aunque sin caer mucho en insultos) resulta más de lo que tú crees. He refutado muchas memeces que Anglojew ha dicho, sin que él sea capaz de rebatir lo que le he contestado. Y como el que calla otorga, el ha quedado como lo que es, un memo que solo dice paridas. Como lo puedes ver en mi tercer post de esta página:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125122-Why-Are-Spaniards-Historically-So-Prone-To-Miscegenation-and-Are-They-To-Blame-For-Race-Mixing/page44

Donde en respuesta al supuesto "ejemplo" que él puso de lo que para según él vendría siendo el Español promedio, yo en respuesta publique una buena tanda con fotos y videos de estudiantes Españoles, y a él no le quedó otra más que quedarse callado.

Así que al final el quedo como un mentiroso, y yo pude con mis fotos, mostrarle a mucha gente que visita el foro, cuán diferente es la realidad, y cuán ridículo es el estereotipo que él pretendía reforzar sobre los Españoles con su supuesto “ejemplo” de Español promedio.

[Empecinado]

Por eso te he recalcado que yo últimamente trato de refutarlos sin mucha agresividad y sin caer tanto en insultos personales. De esa forma no obtienen lo que ellos quieren, que es verte furioso y agresivo.

Ahora, en cuanto a no contestarles, insisto que el refutar sus memeces me resulta divertido, además de que puede ser ilustrativo para enseñarles la verdad a algunas otras personas con una visión estereotipada de España (por tener el cerebro lavado por la mass media), pero que al mismo tiempo pudiesen ser buenas personas y de mente abierta.

No importa que los troles sigan en la suya, con tal de no darles lo que quieren (que es mostrarte muy enojado), y con tal de enseñarles la verdad a otra gente, tal vez ignorante sobre España, pero con la mente suficientemente abierta para deshacerse de ciertos estereotipos, con lo que aprendan de tus respuestas para rebatir al troll.

Además, contestarles (aunque sin caer mucho en insultos) resulta más de lo que tú crees. He refutado muchas memeces que Anglojew ha dicho, sin que él sea capaz de rebatir lo que le he contestado. Y como el que calla otorga, el ha quedado como lo que es, un memo que solo dice paridas. Como lo puedes ver en mi tercer post de esta página:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125122-Why-Are-Spaniards-Historically-So-Prone-To-Miscegenation-and-Are-They-To-Blame-For-Race-Mixing/page44

Donde en respuesta al supuesto "ejemplo" que él puso de lo que para según el vendría siendo el Español promedio, yo en respuesta publique una buena tanda con fotos de estudiantes Españoles, y a él no lequedó otra más que quedarse callado.

Así que al final el quedo como un mentiroso, y yo pude con mis fotos, mostrarle a mucha gente que visita el foro, cuán diferente es la realidad, y cuán ridículo es el estereotipo que él pretendía reforzar sobre los Españoles con su supuesto “ejemplo” de Español promedio.

Los trolles lo que quieren es que gastes tiempo en sus mierdatemas, que contestes, que les de coba. Les da igual que tengas razón o no, es más ni se leen tus mensajes igual que la gran mayoría de visitantes. Saben de sobra que lo que dicen es falso, y precisamente por eso lo dicen, para que caigamos en su trampa y le sigamos el rollo. Si sigues respondiendo, seguirán abriendo temas indefinidamente.

[alnortedelsur]

Los trolles lo que quieren es que gastes tiempo en sus mierdatemas, que contestes, que les de coba. Les da igual que tengas razón o no, es más ni se leen tus mensajes igual que la gran mayoría de visitantes. Saben de sobra que lo que dicen es falso, y precisamente por eso lo dicen, para que caigamos en su trampa y le sigamos el rollo. Si sigues respondiendo, seguirán abriendo temas indefinidamente.

Entonces para qué sirve este foro, si no se puede decir nada para rebatir las memeces que algunos dicen??

Ademas esta muy bien el que sigan abriendo temas, y el que yo y otros los sigamos refutando. Al fin y al cabo eso es lo que le da vida a este foro. Sin controversia los foros pierden interés.

Tu mismo le acabas de responder al troll de rubén cuando insistió en que los Andaluces son particularmente oscuros y descienden de moros.

No entiendo entonces, porque me criticas el que yo responda.:noidea:

[Empecinado]

Entonces para que sirve este foro, si no se puede decir nada para rebatir las memeces que algunos dicen??

Tu mismo le acabas de responder al troll de rubén cuando insistió en que los Andaluces son particularmente oscuros y descienden de moros.

No entiendo porque me criticas el que yo responda.:noidea:

Yo solo respondo veces contadas y con respuestas cortas, y sin emotividad.

[B01AB20]

my typical spaniard, the super mongolwog, the most common phenotype all over spain.

http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpghttp://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg

yeah, I've been there thousands and thousands of times, I know very well what I'm talking about. :bored:

tu que vas a entender infeliz...

[alnortedelsur]

Esta bien, y respeto tu manera de pensar. :thumb001:

Yo intento poner mas de mi parte, tratando de mostrarme menos irritado en mis respuestas. Pero eso es todo lo que puedo prometer.

Por eso te pido que tu también respetes mi manera de pensar.

[Alessio]

Your fellow Spaniard pointed that one out, I don't really believe that either (at least not that it had a great impact genetically), all though there is a genetic impact from the time of Moorish presence in Spain present in Andalucians.


I don't get the stereotype of Andalusians being descendants of Moros when Moros migrated and were deported to North Africa. This is like saying people from Kaliningrad descend from Prussians.

[Empecinado]

Your fellow Spaniard pointed that one out, I don't really believe that either (at least not that it had a great impact genetically), all though there is a genetic impact from the time of Moorish presence in Spain present in Andalucians.

Andalusia suffered a great depopulation process after the Castilian conquest because the Moors fled or were expelled, and they were replaced with Spanish settlers (the true ancestors of present Andalusians). Saying that present Andalusians have Moorish ancestry is like saying people from New York have Algonquine ancestry.


Except for cities such as Jaen, Seville and Jerez, where large number of Spaniards were installed in, the rest of the big towns in the area (Ecija, Carmona, Marchena, Andújar, Niebla, Vejer ...) received quotas of settlers which hardly exceeded the number of 200 neighbors. It is possible, though, that other locations such as Baeza, Ubeda or Cadiz, exceeded the mark of 300 residents. Very few, in any case.

And if that happens with urban core, go figure out what happened on the numerous villages and farmsteads of the Muslim era. In the unlikely event of being repopulated, they received very small group of Christian settlers. This, in addiction with the mass exodus of almost all Moorish population explains that almost all rural areas were emptied of the population, making many of them remaining uninhabited forever.

In short: repopulation of Western Andalusia in the 12th century is characterized and conditioned by the shortage of settlers. Moreover, given the border condition of this area, permanently threatened by Granadean and Benimerine raids since 1275, this region was not attractive at all for their potential settlers.
This means a situation of underpopulation as a fundamental feature of the region at the 13th and 14th centuries.
Number of settlers from the various political entities of the Iberian peninsula in the repopulation of Andalusia.

-Kingdom of Castile (Old Castile, New Castile, Lordship of Biscay and the Andalusian lands already repopulated): 54'51 %

-Kingdom of León (León, Asturias, Galicia and Extremadura): 30'65%

-Crown of Aragon (Aragon, Catalonia and Valencia): 7'38 %

-Kingdom of Navarra: 3'35 %

-Kingdom of Portugal: 2'95 %

-Other areas (Italy, France and England): 1'07 %

These people from 1264 constitute the majority of the population of Andalusia. The Moors, however, were from 1264, a minority in decline. Some of them remained, however, in a few scattered enclaves in the region: in Cordoba, Ecija and Sevilla, that hold the only Muslim quarters that survived until the 15th century, before being their inhabitants expelled in the 17th century.
Thanks to the conservation of several books and a generous and expressive documentation , we know in outline the repopulation process that followed the conquests process , throughout the 13th century, adopted two different ways: In a first moment before the Moorish revolt of 1264, the implementation of a system of land occupation based on a military control ( through the effective concentration of people of Castilian -Leonese origin in the enclaves of strategic value) and the permanence in the villages and rural districts of much of the Muslim subject population.

This situation if had been consolidated, would given rise to a predominantly Moorish Andalusia in its demographic structures, or according RI Burns words, a type of colonialism, similar to what emerged in Valencia for the same years. And the history of the region would have been largely different from what it was.
However, despite the agreements signed by Fernando III, the situation of Andalusian Moorish came out to be deeply disturbed by the policies pursued by Alfonso X in the early years of his reign (mass transfers of Moors, forced exodus of entire populations, installation of garrisons in protectorate areas in the region of Guadalete).
-After the Moorish revolt of 1264, which was related to these breaches of the agreement, Alfonso X completely changes the policy. Thus starts the second phase of the process of settlement in Western Andalusia, characterized by the deliberate renunciation of Castilla and the new Andalusians to the coexistence with Moors, who are systematically expelled or are forced to migrate, being reduced to the status of a minority increasingly demographically irrelevant.
This new situation was extraordinarily important for the future of the region, since it is clear that the extinction of Andalusian Moorish population represented a clear break with the Muslim past and allowed to create a new structures unrelated at all with the immediate past of the region.

Eastern Andalucia

After the revolt of the Alpujarras (1560-1570), the new authorities decided to expel the Moors and repopulate the Kingdom of Granada with Christians. Between June 1569 and November 1570 there were two deportations of the Moors, which was followed by a new one in 1571, which affected those who had returned illegally. In total, the number of expelled totaled approximately 140,000 of the 150,000 residents of Granada. The assets of the Moors (except of those considered to be "peaceful") were confiscated by the state. The remaining Moorish population was expelled in 1609.
In 1975 B. Vincent made a model on the decline of the Kingdom of Granada after
deportation of Moors. The main features of the model consist of a catastrophic depopulation, disappearance of traditional crafts and a modification of the structural economic and property relations.
According to official data, in 1576 12,250 Spanish families moved to the Kingdom of Granada, a total of 47,657 people. Indeed, but the number was much higher than those recorded. The origin of 8,535 families are registered. Of these, approximately 65% were families from the provinces of Murcia, Jaen, Cordoba, Seville, Cádiz, and the lands east of the Guadalquivir, ie more than 2/3 of the settlers came from sites located no more than 200 kilometers away. The only remote region with considerable representation was Cuenca-Guadalajara. From the rest of Spain came less than a 1/5, being the 5% of this 1/5 from Galicia
In the diocese of Almería almost half of settlers were from Murcia, and many settlers were from Valencia.
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[Comte Arnau]

my typical spaniard, the super mongolwog, the most common phenotype all over spain.

http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpghttp://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg


Francesc d'Asís Xavier Cugat Mingall de Bru i Deulofeu. As Catalan as you can get. Wikipedia saying Catalan-American must be because Abbe Lane was one of his wives.

Look at him and look at Josep Pla. I call this the Empordanenc Mongol type. :laugh:

http://www.lacentral.com/Imagenes/?idr=384

[B01AB20]

Francesc d'Asís Xavier Cugat Mingall de Bru i Deulofeu. As Catalan as you can get. Wikipedia saying Catalan-American must be because Abbe Lane was one of his wives.

Look at him and look at Josep Pla. I call this the Empordanenc Mongol type. :laugh:

http://www.lacentral.com/Imagenes/?idr=384

what happens to you arnau?

Cugat and Josep Pla were true 'españolistas' AFAIK, they would have voted against independence for sure.



in the near and glorious future of catalonia they will be excommunicated by mighty oriol junqueras and exiled back to mongolia.

:rofl:

[Anglojew]

my typical spaniard, the super mongolwog, the most common phenotype all over spain.

http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpghttp://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg

yeah, I've been there thousands and thousands of times, I know very well what I'm talking about. :bored:

tu que vas a entender infeliz...

Looks Jewish

[Anglojew]

pepito hijoputez (a true sephardic surname at last, you can check it in your jew web anglojew ;) ), back to his roots and doing his things.

he looks pretty white to me.

http://blogs.elpais.com/.a/6a00d8341bfb1653ef014e895c4527970d-pi

Verne Troyer's Amish not Jewish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verne_Troyer

[B01AB20]

Looks Jewish

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg

sure, moreover the spanish word 'perfidia' is a perfect definition of jewish people like you, I guess.

it doesn't mean 'noble' IYKWIM. :thumb001:

[OldWayGuy]

http://static.ilooklikeyou.com/images/mm/2014/05/23/thumbs/photo_604ea2_283x283.jpg

[Eureka]

Spaniards are most Altlando-méd and baskid , the genetic moorish heritage is very minor

[B01AB20]

http://static.ilooklikeyou.com/images/mm/2014/05/23/thumbs/photo_604ea2_283x283.jpg

french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.

you could pass in italy though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

[Isleño]

I'll repeat what I said earlier in response to MartinV Gladiator:



While it is definitely true that some people, including Anglojew, do over-exaggerate the darkness of Spaniards and troll them, at the same time only a narrow-minded bigot would think there is something inherently wrong about having some people within their native population who can pass outside Europe, regardless of how high or low the proportion might be.
Are you calling me a narrow minded bigot sir???

[Tooting Carmen]

Are you calling me a narrow minded bigot sir???

No, but I am saying in general that one should not be ashamed of the darker-pigmented members of one's ethnicity and who they can resemble.

[OldWayGuy]

french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.

you could pass in italy though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/997/35s7cv.jpg

:p

[Isleño]

No, but I am saying in general that one should not be ashamed of the darker-pigmented members of one's ethnicity and who they can resemble.

Sounded like you were calling me a bigot, in which I'm not. I have no problem with Moro/Gypsy Spaniards but to make it seem as if we are all just Moroccans is absurd. Of course there are a few that are significantly of moro ancestry, but as far as most, Spaniards as a whole fit into the "white" category nicely. Stop twisting my comments.

[Tooting Carmen]

Sounded like you were calling me a bigot, in which I'm not. I have no problem with Moro/Gypsy Spaniards but to make it seem as if we are all just Moroccans is absurd. Of course there are a few that are significantly of moro ancestry, but as far as most, Spaniards as a whole fit into the "white" category nicely. Stop twisting my comments.

Oh OK. I think we are more on the same page now. Anyway, do you agree with what I said earlier:

most Spaniards - circa 60% - look distinctly Iberian/Southern European, while another 30% or so could pass in the British Isles (of whom some could also pass in the more 'Germanic'/blonder countries in Northern Europe). Finally, there is a very dark-pigmented 10% or so who principally resemble NW African Berbers, though there are occasional ones who could pass as Middle Easterners or even light/atypical Pakistanis (before people accuse me of trolling Spaniards, there are other Southern Europeans who could pass as light Pakistanis too).

[Isleño]

No, but I am saying in general that one should not be ashamed of the darker-pigmented members of one's ethnicity and who they can resemble.

Who's ashamed of a dark Spaniard? You are twisting my comment. It sounded like you were calling me a bigot, in which I'm certainly not. I have no problems with any that may be significantly Gypsy or Moro, but to make Spaniards out to be as if we are all just Moroccans is absurd. Of course there are a few with significant questionable ancestry, but as a whole, most Spaniards fit nicely into the "white" category. That's what I mean, not some twisted rhetoric of somehow I'm supposedly ashamed or bigoted, which is absurd to even make such an accusation.

[Isleño]

Oh OK. I think we are more on the same page now. Anyway, do you agree with what I said earlier:
My computer had to restart and I rewrote the comment, but it came out a bit differently, not realizing that it posted before my computer unexpectedly restarted. Anyway, ask me what I mean before making such an accusation. I was not saying what you were suggesting.

[Tooting Carmen]

Who's ashamed of a dark Spaniard? You are twisting my comment. It sounded like you were calling me a bigot, in which I'm certainly not. I have no problems with any that may be significantly Gypsy or Moro, but to make Spaniards out to be as if we are all just Moroccans is absurd. Of course there are a few with significant questionable ancestry, but as a whole, most Spaniards fit nicely into the "white" category. That's what I mean, not some twisted rhetoric of somehow I'm supposedly ashamed or bigoted, which is absurd to even make such an accusation.

I'm not and was not suggesting you specifically are a bigot, I was talking in a more abstract and general way. Anyway, do you agree with my basic breakdown of Spanish phenotypes? I have lived in Spain, visited it many more times and have met lots of Spaniards in Britain, so I do know what I am talking about.

[Isleño]

Oh OK. I think we are more on the same page now. Anyway, do you agree with what I said earlier:
I can agree on your percentage estimate of Spaniards. I just don't like these anti-Spanish threads that these trolls keep posting. I'm not naming any names, but I know who they are. F------ racists!

[OldWayGuy]

Stop to fight and discuss about my perfect examplesist specimen

[Isleño]

french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.

you could pass in italy though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

I've been told I could pass as French too, and I'm fully Canarian in ancestry. My avatar is my phenotype.

[Isleño]

my typical spaniard, the super mongolwog, the most common phenotype all over spain.

http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpghttp://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg

yeah, I've been there thousands and thousands of times, I know very well what I'm talking about. :bored:

tu que vas a entender infeliz...
I would say this is a common type in Spain. I had a grandfather that looked similar, but a bit more olive in complexion.

[Alessio]

you could simply be Puerto Rican but French? :rolleyes:


I've been told I could pass as French too, and I'm fully Canarian in ancestry. My avatar is my phenotype.

[B01AB20]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/997/35s7cv.jpg

:p

french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.



he could pass in the enterprise though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

[OldWayGuy]

http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/enterprise_crew.jpg

[Isleño]

you could simply be Puerto Rican but French? :rolleyes:

Haha, I've been told Puerto Rican too before. But when I said French, I was giving an opinion I've heard from some before. My entire family is from the Canary Islands, but among us, the majority look like those in Andalusia, but I am one of the minority in my family with a more northerly phenotype, maybe something found more in Galicia/Asturias. But some Puerto Ricans do look like us, but it makes sense because the ones that do usually have our blood.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Please post white-looking Spanish examples.

So which Spaniard upset you yesterday?

[Balmung]

A lot of them could be British (or Irish).

Eh.

Spaniards are for more aesthetic than your typical non famous, non model, non actress Brit. Miles better.

[Anglojew]

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/018/736/0001873617_500.jpg

sure, moreover the spanish word 'perfidia' is a perfect definition of jewish people like you, I guess.

it doesn't mean 'noble' IYKWIM. :thumb001:

Probably about the treatment of his Sephardi ancestors

[Isleño]

Probably about the treatment of his Sephardi ancestors

Lol, now you want to make us all into Jews.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Oh really? If that avatar is you, then I have news for you: you look just like a South Asian guy I know.

:picard1:

[B01AB20]

http://100grana.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/enterprise_crew.jpg


:scared::suspicious::faint2:

this time yes, andalucians... except the blonde that's french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.



kirk could pass in the enterprise though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

[B01AB20]

So which Spaniard upset you yesterday?

galicians possibly...

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?69790-A-grandes-males-grandes-remedios&p=2658881&viewfull=1#post2658881

[Anglojew]

:scared::suspicious::faint2:

this time yes, andalucians... except the blonde that's french.

la vita e obsesione will confirm that.



kirk could pass in the enterprise though, la vita e obsesione will confirm that too.

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/30/30cbd4eab50124d34b6a6ed7923e25776778a6952c1e22c42d 48143f092de9ed.jpg

[B01AB20]

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/30/30cbd4eab50124d34b6a6ed7923e25776778a6952c1e22c42d 48143f092de9ed.jpg

http://www.memegen.es/m/tjgc5p.jpg

you're losing puch and guts at every moment.

what happens to you anglojwe? are you down in the dumps or something?

[alnortedelsur]

Lol, now you want to make us all into Jews.

Yeah, like in this thread of mine, in which he insists that this Spaniard girl looks "sephardite Jewish", when you and me know that the Jewish population was always a very tiny and RIDICULOUSLY small minority who did NOT make up more than 2% of the total Spanish population, and most of them were expelled:

www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126614-Classify-Pretty-Spaniard-girl

Indeed, that girl from Burgos, Castilla-Leon, is more Spanish than the Spanish sangria, the Spanish tortilla, the Paella Valenciana, or the wine from La Rioja.

[B01AB20]

^^ you're the ONE who can revive the mood and spirit of anglojew to keep trolling iberians.

congrats.

and btw, gran inquisidor alnortedelapollaenvinagre... what do you think of


Francesc d'Asís Xavier Cugat Mingall de Bru i Deulofeu. As Catalan as you can get.

http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpg

how can this specimen be a true iberian, as catalan as you can get like arnau said, how that can be possible, this super weirdo supermongolwog...

there must be some incredible explanation no?, maybe his identity is fake and his mother was a mongol and his father a moor and he was adopted, maybe cugat is a jewish conspiracy against racial purity of iberians...

what do you think about it?

[alnortedelsur]

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[alnortedelsur]

^^ you're the ONE who can revive the mood and spirit of anglojew to keep trolling iberians.

congrats.

and btw, gran inquisidor alnortedelapollaenvinagre... what do you think of



http://mrdomingo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2188598128_5fecb9bd38.jpg

how can this specimen be a true iberian, as catalan as you can get like arnau said, how that can be possible, this super weirdo supermongolwog...

there must be some incredible explanation no?, maybe his identity is fake and his mother was a mongol and his father a moor and he was adopted, maybe cugat is a jewish conspiracy against racial purity of iberians...

what do you think about it?

LOL I don't negate that there are some few exotic Iberians, like Xavier Cugat, and they can be common to some extent, but they are NOT the rule.

[aimar]

Only Anglos are white

[Empecinado]

Francesc d'Asís Xavier Cugat Mingall de Bru i Deulofeu. As Catalan as you can get. Wikipedia saying Catalan-American must be because Abbe Lane was one of his wives.

Look at him and look at Josep Pla. I call this the Empordanenc Mongol type. :laugh:

http://www.lacentral.com/Imagenes/?idr=384

Sergio Dalma is pure ethnic Catalan too, his real name is Josep Sergi Capdevila i Querol. I saw him in Altea and he talks in Catalan by default with everyone though when someone answer him in Castilian he changes to Castilian. This serie I saw in my childhood was sung by him in Catalan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Da7ut-cAk

http://blogs.elcorreo.com/musica-callada/files/2012/09/DALMA.jpg

[EL_BARBARO]

Si hay algo más triste y ridículo que un oligofrénico, racista, troll y xenófobo es un oligofrénico, racista, troll, xenófobo y judio que va de lord inglés.

Tiradle algún coscurro de pan o algo. Pobre animalito.

[B01AB20]

http://multimedia.fnac.com/multimedia/ES/images_produits/ES/ZoomPE/4/6/5/8425845908564.jpghttp://qqq.a45rpm.com/Discos_jpg/11000/10425.jpg

Nuria Feliu, as catalan as you can get...

http://img.europapress.net/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20110224180145_800.jpg

but she doesn't change to castillian under none circumstance. :cool:

[OldWayGuy]

la vita and obsesione confirm that all things pelase u look very widsom pls

[Cristiano viejo]

La vita e obsessione per la Spagna hahahaha me meo :rofl:

[B01AB20]

well, my apologies to italian posters here

it's 'ossessione' in the beautiful italian language and not 'obsesione'.

typical fault of spanish speakers who translate freely the spanish 'obsesión'.

never will happen again. :shakefist

[Anglojew]

Yeah, like in this thread of mine, in which he insists that this Spaniard girl looks "sephardite Jewish", when you and me know that the Jewish population was always a very tiny and RIDICULOUSLY small minority who did NOT make up more than 2% of the total Spanish population, and most of them were expelled:

www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126614-Classify-Pretty-Spaniard-girl

Indeed, that girl from Burgos, Castilla-Leon, is more Spanish than the Spanish sangria, the Spanish tortilla, the Paella Valenciana, or the wine from La Rioja.


To this day many Spanish dishes have their origins in Jewish cooking.

http://www.spanishfoodworld.co.uk/jewish-cooking-in-spain/

[Yehiel]

Yeah, like in this thread of mine, in which he insists that this Spaniard girl looks "sephardite Jewish", when you and me know that the Jewish population was always a very tiny and RIDICULOUSLY small minority who did NOT make up more than 2% of the total Spanish population, and most of them were expelled:

www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?126614-Classify-Pretty-Spaniard-girl

Indeed, that girl from Burgos, Castilla-Leon, is more Spanish than the Spanish sangria, the Spanish tortilla, the Paella Valenciana, or the wine from La Rioja.

we made up 10% of portugals population at one point, most fleeing from spain so it was probably a bit more than 2%

[B01AB20]

how do you say 'ossessione' in hebrew anglojew?

you've a big one with spain, like so many weirdo here.

life would be hard for REAL spaniards in Apricity if we took these things seriously.

[Empecinado]

we made up 10% of portugals population at one point, most fleeing from spain so it was probably a bit more than 2%

According Joseph Pérez ("The Expulsion of the Jews from Spain" )and Max Dimont ( "Jews, God and History"), the total population of Jews was around 150,000 people, thus only between 1-2%.

[Yehiel]

According Joseph Pérez ("The Expulsion of the Jews from Spain" )and Max Dimont ( "Jews, God and History"), the total population of Jews was around 150,000 people, thus only between 1-2%.

It was much more than that

[Empecinado]

It was much more than that

I have put data from historians, it's not mine. So don't talk about things you don't know.

[Linet]

I am abit confused here :blink: .....how to post "white" photos of a nation that is white anyway? :eusa_eh:

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It was much more than that

He just gave you two sources from respected historians and that is your response? What credentials do you have to make such a claim other than being half naked in your avatar?

[Anglojew]

how do you say 'ossessione' in hebrew anglojew?

you've a big one with spain, like so many weirdo here.

life would be hard for REAL spaniards in Apricity if we took these things seriously.

Money

[Anglojew]

I am abit confused here :blink: .....how to post "white" photos of a nation that is white anyway? :eusa_eh:

White looking ones not the darkies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/europe_spain0s_shock_result/img/3.jpg

[Anglojew]

According Joseph Pérez ("The Expulsion of the Jews from Spain" )and Max Dimont ( "Jews, God and History"), the total population of Jews was around 150,000 people, thus only between 1-2%.

Yes but that's because so many became crypto-Jews

[aimar]

White looking ones not the darkies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/europe_spain0s_shock_result/img/3.jpg

this one is darker

http://wp.clicrbs.com.br/atlpop/files/2014/02/Morgan-Freeman.jpg

[Empecinado]

Yes but that's because so many became crypto-Jews

So illiterate and brainless statement that doesn't worth to be answered.

[Sikeliot]

All ethnic Spaniards are white.

[Yehiel]

He just gave you two sources from respected historians and that is your response? What credentials do you have to make such a claim other than being half naked in your avatar?

I am not naked in my avatar

The Jewish community in Portugal was perhaps then some 10% of that country's population - Kayserling, Meyer. "História dos Judeus em Portugal". Editora Pioneira, São Paulo, 1971

[Linet]

Even if Spanish were not dove white :pippi: ....what that would change about them? :fwhat:

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I am not naked in my avatar

I said half naked.


The Jewish community in Portugal was perhaps then some 10% of that country's population - Kayserling, Meyer. "História dos Judeus em Portugal". Editora Pioneira, São Paulo, 1971

You're an idiot.

This is the author you're sourcing:


He was educated at Halberstadt, Nikolsburg (Moravia), Prague, Würzburg, and Berlin. He devoted himself to history and philosophy. Encouraged in historical researches by Leopold von Ranke, Kayserling turned his attention to the history and literature of the Jews of Iberian Peninsula.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Kayserling

He's a 19th century historian.

I'm going to teach you a lesson on not being stupid.

1) Do not cite a source from a language you can't read. That rings warnings bells to everyone else.
2) Do no copy and paste a link you find on some random internet webpage, which is what you did. I have no doubt in my mind you didn't know this was a 19th century historian. You saw the year "1971" and ran with it, which is dumb in its own way. More recent scholarship is almost always superior to older works because it builds on past works.

You may go now and stop insulting everyone's intelligence with these goofy slight of hands. You're too young to be good at it.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

What a surprise Anglojew thanked your post. Another poster known for dishonesty and he doesn't have the excuse of being a teenager if someone would like to use age as an excuse for twisting truth.

You two certainly don't fit a particular stereotype of Jews.

Come correct, yo, or don't come at all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdPTVGm9lU0

Sup now?

[Yehiel]

I said half naked.



You're an idiot.

This is the author you're sourcing:



He's a 19th century historian.

I'm going to teach you a lesson on not being stupid.

1) Do not cite a source from a language you can't read. That rings warnings bells to everyone else.
2) Do no copy and paste a link you find on some random internet webpage, which is what you did. I have no doubt in my mind you didn't know this was a 19th century historian. You saw the year "1971" and ran with it, which is dumb in its own way. More recent scholarship is almost always superior to older works because it builds on past works.

You may go now and stop insulting everyone's intelligence with these goofy slight of hands. You're too young to be good at it.

You have a half naked guy in your avatar.

[Anglojew]

You have a half naked guy in your avatar.

Good point...but I love the smell of napalm in the morning

[me cago en Yahve]

The average Spaniard looks like this (within the Med spectrum);

Many however look non-white like this (Daniel Pacheco);

http://assets1.lfcimages.com/uploads/players/mpro_daniel_pacheco_263X.jpg

Please post white-looking Spanish examples.


Are you half retarded or totally retarded??

your brain can't even think of any reason why Daniel Pacheco was borned and rised in Spain but HAS BRAZILIAN NATIONALITY??? seriously? not even a clue Mr. Sherlock Holmes???


hey look another spaniard, Michelle Obama took a picture in Spain so that must make her 11th generation spanish!!!
http://img.rtve.es/imagenes/obama-familia-real/1281275504811.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Are you half retarded or totally retarded??

your brain can't even think of any reason why Daniel Pacheco was borned and rised in Spain but HAS BRAZILIAN NATIONALITY??? seriously? not even a clue Mr. Sherlock Holmes???


hey look another spaniard, Michelle Obama took a picture in Spain so that must make her 11th generation spanish!!!
http://img.rtve.es/imagenes/obama-familia-real/1281275504811.jpg

Do you have a source that Pacheco has Brazilian nationality? There's no mention of it in Wikipedia, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pacheco

[James David Caulton]

the illustrator Victoria Francis

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/63122_362533383842108_1482107932_n.jpg?oh=3e0d9d08 6c51e68dc1b27d867633cde5&oe=54DDA696

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/523840_362533240508789_838902759_n.jpg?oh=0249244a e4cc4e19735eb762b6b0b529&oe=54E5632D&__gda__=1423747580_21b4733d103b14b5a671f17e3ed5143 5

[Cristiano viejo]

Do you have a source that Pacheco has Brazilian nationality? There's no mention of it in Wikipedia, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pacheco

Daniel Pacheco Lobato (5 de enero de 1991, Pizarra, Málaga, España) es un futbolista español-brasileño.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pacheco

[special]

"Spaniards that look white"..ahaha nice trolling

[me cago en Yahve]

Do you have a source that Pacheco has Brazilian nationality? There's no mention of it in Wikipedia, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pacheco


http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dani-pacheco/profil/spieler/28285#

[Anglojew]

the illustrator Victoria Francis

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/63122_362533383842108_1482107932_n.jpg?oh=3e0d9d08 6c51e68dc1b27d867633cde5&oe=54DDA696

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/523840_362533240508789_838902759_n.jpg?oh=0249244a e4cc4e19735eb762b6b0b529&oe=54E5632D&__gda__=1423747580_21b4733d103b14b5a671f17e3ed5143 5

Bad nose job

[albie]

The average Spaniard looks like this (within the Med spectrum);

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZizuwhQwMAM/TWqmLLqVnxI/AAAAAAAAAa8/F5ZdhuV1GqE/s1600/Spaniard.jpg

Many however look non-white like this (Daniel Pacheco);

http://assets1.lfcimages.com/uploads/players/mpro_daniel_pacheco_263X.jpg

Please post white-looking Spanish examples.

Almost all Spaniards look White.... Do you even know where Spain is?
Hint: it's VEEEEEERY far away from Mexico :picard1:

[Sp_loa]

Spaniards are white. Enough with this bullshit. The only reason people in my family (not talking about my self because I was never classified) are sometimes Pan-European passing is because of Spanish blood. Spanish genes are one of the best genes to be found in southern Europe ;) Very attractive people as well.

[Rafael Passoni]

If this Morrocan and This Iranian are white (Farnam Jahanian and Marc Lasry):

103821103822

I don't understand why spaniards with dark features aren't. For me, it's a crazy question. It makes no sense.

[Rafael Passoni]

103823 This pic is of my Great-grandfather, he was a blonde blue eyed Catalan.

[Rafael Passoni]

Sorry, a Colored Photo 103862