Sub-Saharan HaploGroup ExE3b In Italy,Spain and Portugal? Am I misunderstanding something Here?

[MagnusAurelius]

I was just reading this, it looks like ExE3B has a presence in Europe but only in those countries, and it looks like it is all over Africa unless that is really "other" on this map. What do you guys think?

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

Haplogroup E itself is all over Europe, but aren't certain sub-clades of it only present with Black African populations? I was reading on its distribution and the north africans and middle easterns only have it in the ranges of 1-10%. Do these southern European nations also have this ExE3B sub-clad? I can't seem to find any info on this genetic marker outside this website, is this site wrong? The PDF file one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E_(Y-DNA)

[Yehiel]

Doesnt surprise me, Spaniards have African roots.

[aimar]

Portuguese are 22% black, I saw a study about it.

[Yehiel]

Portuguese are 22% black, I saw a study about it.

Spaniards are more blacker than Portuguese. are you sure the study wasnt on spaniards?

[Smeagol]

According to that map it's only in Portugal. I don't know if it's Subsaharan or not but autosomaly the Portuguese don't have any significant SSA mixture. Only about two percent East African.

[Smeagol]

Doesnt surprise me, Spaniards have African roots.

Actually No.

[aimar]

Spaniards are more blacker than Portuguese. are you sure the study wasnt on spaniards?

No. Spaniards were almost 0%

[MagnusAurelius]

Doesnt surprise me, Spaniards have African roots.

Does this forum have any more intelligent people ? Instead of these stupid 1 liner trolls.

[Peyrol]

Haplogrup E is diffused in 4/5 of continental Europe


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Haplogrupo_E-ADN-Y.GIF

[Äijä]

Spanish know some of their people have moderate to heavy African admix but they dont want to admit it here.

[Smeagol]

Haplogrup E is diffused in 4/5 of continental Europe


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Haplogrupo_E-ADN-Y.GIF

Also haplogroup E probably originated in the Middle East, not Africa.

[Peikko]

Also haplogroup E probably originated in the Middle East, not Africa.
How did it get so common in Africa? Did they move back there or what?

[Vasconcelos]

Hitler was E1b.

[Smeagol]

How did it get so common in Africa? Did they move back there or what?

Back Migration. I posted an article about it in another thread a few months ago, but I can't right now, because I'm on my phone.

[Peyrol]

How did it get so common in Africa? Did they move back there or what?

Back migration.

It happened many times.

[Lusos]

Portuguese are 22% black, I saw a study about it.

NSIS

[Empecinado]

Genetic distances and principal component analyses show a clear differentiation of NW African and Iberian groups of samples, suggesting a strong genetic barrier matching the geographical Mediterranean Sea barrier. The restriction to gene flow may be attributed to the navigational hazards across the Straits, but cultural factors must also have played a role. Some degree of gene flow from sub-Saharan Africa can be detected in the southern part of North Africa and in Saharawi and Southeastern Moroccans, as a result of a continuous gene flow across the Sahara desert that has created a south-north cline of sub-Saharan Africa influence in North Africa. Iberian samples show a substantial degree of homogeneity and fall within the cluster of European-based genetic diversity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11129330


Phylogeographic analyses show that the haplogroup composition of the ancient Iberians was very similar to that found in modern Iberian Peninsula populations, suggesting a long-term genetic continuity since pre-Roman times. .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16138912

[Lusos]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11129330



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16138912


Don't bother.

[Yehiel]

Does this forum have any more intelligent people ? Instead of these stupid 1 liner trolls.

i feel the same way

[Friends of Oliver Society]

I was just reading this, it looks like ExE3B has a presence in Europe but only in those countries, and it looks like it is all over Africa unless that is really "other" on this map. What do you guys think?

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

I think you have an issue with differentiating colors.


Haplogroup E itself is all over Europe, but aren't certain sub-clades of it only present with Black African populations? I was reading on its distribution and the north africans and middle easterns only have it in the ranges of 1-10%. Do these southern European nations also have this ExE3B sub-clad?

You say ExE3B has a presence in S. Europe in the first part of your post based on your inability to differentiate colors and yet now here you ask if they do. Why ask if they do if you initially say there is a presence? You're an idiot or a troll or a trollish idiot for not being able to troll effectively by being consistent.


I can't seem to find any info on this genetic marker outside this website, is this site wrong? The PDF file one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E_(Y-DNA)

Keep at it. I have faith in you.

[Friends of Oliver Society]

i feel the same way

Ditto.

[MagnusAurelius]

I was just reading this, it looks like ExE3B has a presence in Europe but only in those countries, and it looks like it is all over Africa unless that is really "other" on this map. What do you guys think?

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

Haplogroup E itself is all over Europe, but aren't certain sub-clades of it only present with Black African populations? I was reading on its distribution and the north africans and middle easterns only have it in the ranges of 1-10%. Do these southern European nations also have this ExE3B sub-clad? I can't seem to find any info on this genetic marker outside this website, is this site wrong? The PDF file one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E_(Y-DNA)


ExE3B is prevalent in Africa, I guess Portuguese, Italans and Spaniards do have it at about 1-3% depending on the person. On my other thread that talked about Black african mixture with Southern Europeans , it said this on the wiki page.

In Portugal sub-Saharan Y-DNA xE3b was found at a total of 3% (N. Portugal 4% / S. Portugal 2%) and 1.6% in Sardinia. Genetic marker xE3b is the highest Y-DNA marker in sub-Saharan West-Africa and was absent (0%) in Sicilians and all other European groups.[24]

[Lusos]

ExE3B is prevalent in Africa, I guess Portuguese, Italans and Spaniards do have it at about 1-3% depending on the person. On my other thread that talked about Black african mixture with Southern Europeans , it said this on the wiki page.

In Portugal sub-Saharan Y-DNA xE3b was found at a total of 3% (N. Portugal 4% / S. Portugal 2%) and 1.6% in Sardinia. Genetic marker xE3b is the highest Y-DNA marker in sub-Saharan West-Africa and was absent (0%) in Sicilians and all other European groups.[24]

Do you know that In Portugal (And I think In Spain too) there's no such thing as a Black Portuguese....Just Portuguese.There's no such thing (In Curricular forms Per Ex.).as White Portuguese or Asian-Portuguese.Just Portuguese.

[Artek]

E is older in Spain than R1b and people who brought it were Caucasoid.

[MagnusAurelius]

Spanish know some of their people have moderate to heavy African admix but they dont want to admit it here.

You are 100% wrong. Moderate would mean at least 20%, when Spaniards have minimal north african influence. North African DNA would not make them less Caucasian, middle eastern DNA markers are still Caucasian since middle eastern peopel are technically Caucasian.

At the most, Spaniards have 5% non-Caucasian DNA. Anything under 10% is not significant anyway.

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25568-African-mtDNA-and-Y-DNA-in-Iberia Read through all of this if you wish.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/2013/12/global-admixture-analysis-at-k6.html K6 analysis also shows small non-Caucasian contribution.