Why does Andrea Tantaros look Mestiza?

[Sikeliot]

She is Greek but she looks mestiza.

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2013/10/Tantaros.jpg
http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Content/130520/News/6_sat/thumbs/130525andrea1_210x305.jpg
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/lifestyle/files/2013/07/804b6577d4b957f52987db552bc7bdc7.jpeg
http://photos.famouswiki.com/a/andrea-tantaros-27081/gallery/andrea-tantaros-43357.jpg
https://republicansecuritycouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/andrea1.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Turkic admixture is probably the reason.

[Isleño]

She is Greek but she looks mestiza.

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2013/10/Tantaros.jpg
http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Content/130520/News/6_sat/thumbs/130525andrea1_210x305.jpg
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/lifestyle/files/2013/07/804b6577d4b957f52987db552bc7bdc7.jpeg
http://photos.famouswiki.com/a/andrea-tantaros-27081/gallery/andrea-tantaros-43357.jpg
https://republicansecuritycouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/andrea1.jpg
No way! Not at all, she looks typical Southern European!

[robertsmith]

Her mom and brothers

http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/thumbnails/i/082713/0/0/082713_five_andrea_640.jpghttp://foxnewsinsider.com/sites/foxnewsinsider.com/files/082713_tantaros_555.jpg


Her dad, mom, and brother
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2932/14071777932_e19c6859da_m.jpg

[Isleño]

If you see any mestizas that look like her, they are not really mestizas, lol

[Han Cholo]

A bit atypical facial proportions, but in some pics she can.


If you see any mestizas that look like her, they are not really mestizas, lol

She certainly looks nothing like any pred-Euro Mexicans I've ever seen. Not even Castizos.

[Sikeliot]

No way! Not at all, she looks typical Southern European!

Look closely at her eyes..

[StonyArabia]

^She looks Turkmen influenced to me.

[Isleño]

Look closely at her eyes..
No way man. She doesn't look mestiza to me at all. She looks southeast European.

[Sikeliot]

^She looks Turkmen influenced to me.

Which with Southern European admixture can easily look mestizo.

This photo she looks almost mestizo but even could pass as part East Asian.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-five/sites/foxnews.com.on-air.the-five/files/styles/contributor/public/andrea-2_0.png

[Isleño]

A bit atypical facial proportions, but in some pics she can.



She certainly looks nothing like any pred-Euro Mexicans I've ever seen. Not even Castizos.
She doesn't look mestizo to me at all. If you see mestizas that look like that, they are not mestizas.

[Han Cholo]

She doesn't look mestizo to me at all. If you see mestizas that look like that, they are not mestizas.

What are they then? Considering I live in Mexico, it'd be very unlikely they are anything else. Anyone can correct me, but I think this woman doesn't fit in Spain.

[Isleño]

Look closely at her eyes..

I just looked at her eyes, there is a small amount of what seems to be probably some central Asian influence, but her entire look doesn't look mestizo to me. She looks like an atypical southern European. If I had to compare her, maybe castiza.

[Sikeliot]

What are they then? Considering I live in Mexico, it'd be very unlikely they are anything else. Anyone can correct me, but I think this woman doesn't fit in Spain.

She doesn't fit in Europe at all to me, or anywhere that people are fully Caucasoid.

[alpha]

Mestizas look like her.

[Insuperable]

Looks like a normal Greek woman to me
http://s18.postimg.org/3ly0vko1l/Andrea_Tantaros_6.jpg

[Isleño]

What are they then? Considering I live in Mexico, it'd be very unlikely they are anything else. Anyone can correct me, but I think this woman doesn't fit in Spain.

I don't think that she fits in Spain, her features are not western enough to me. But I don't think she is particularly odd for Southern Europe. She does have a tiny bit of alteration in the eyes, but her overall facial features besides that fact is not particularly atypical in Southern Europe. And I'm sure you do live in Mexico and there are probably women that do look similar to her, but I wouldn't think they were mestiza, but rather than castiza/criolla with a small amount of Native American to pull their features eastward. I've seen Mexican women not too disimilar from her, but they didn't strike me as mestiza, but rather castiza-criolla. But of course everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[robertsmith]

Quote from an interview. "I’m third of four children born to a Greek immigrant father and a Christian, Italian-American mother. My family was in the restaurant business so we all had to work. A lot. My father came to America with nothing, never took a penny from the government and built an empire with my mother by his side as his partner. He loved us very much, but he was very tough. He set a demanding example and taught us the meaning of persistence, hard work and a mantra of no excuses. If more people were like him, this country would be in better shape.”

[Isleño]

She doesn't fit in Europe at all to me, or anywhere that people are fully Caucasoid.

She doesn't look that different to me.

http://s18.postimg.org/3ly0vko1l/Andrea_Tantaros_6.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Which with Southern European admixture can easily look mestizo.

This photo she looks almost mestizo but even could pass as part East Asian.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-five/sites/foxnews.com.on-air.the-five/files/styles/contributor/public/andrea-2_0.png

She clearly has Turkic ancestry/admixture.

[robertsmith]

edit

[Isleño]

A bit atypical facial proportions, but in some pics she can.



She certainly looks nothing like any pred-Euro Mexicans I've ever seen. Not even Castizos.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. To me, her facial features, minus the eyes don't look western European (which would be the base of most castizas in Mexico) but looks southeastern European. The eyes seem to me to be slightly altered by a central European component, but not to the point where it's extremely noticeable. At first look I made a comment to Sikeliot that she looked completely Southern European. He then told to look closely at the eyes. I did so, and noticed a slight central European influence, but it wasn't overwhelming. So to me, she looks to be southeastern European in the face with slightly central European influenced eye shape, but nothing extreme. So in my opinion, I think may the closest would be castiza, but castizas in Mexico have western/southwestern Euro features, not southeast Euro features which matters. At least to me. It's my opinion.

[Sikeliot]

So she is half Italian too apparently, but I don't think that explains her look either. It explains why she looks more SE European along with the Greek, but I still see her as looking Mexican.

[Isleño]

Her mom is Italian (probably very dark Sicilian) and dad is Greek (probably Turk or Gypsy-Greek)

I think there could probably be some minor central Asian influence, but it's so minor it's barely noticeable. At first glance I said no way. I had to look closely in the eyes to really notice. She looks atypical for southeast European, but not that much. At least to me.

[Isleño]

So she is half Italian too apparently, but I don't think that explains her look either. It explains why she looks more SE European along with the Greek, but I still see her as looking Mexican.

Mexicans can look like anything. Are you trying to say mestiza or castiza or criolla?

[Sikeliot]

IMO if you cover the lower part of her face and only look at the eyes she can pass as East Asian.

[Sikeliot]

Mexicans can look like anything. Are you trying to say mestiza or castiza or criolla?

Mestiza.

[Han Cholo]

I don't think that she fits in Spain, her features are not western enough to me. But I don't think she is particularly odd for Southern Europe. She does have a tiny bit of alteration in the eyes, but her overall facial features besides that fact is not particularly atypical in Southern Europe. And I'm sure you do live in Mexico and there are probably women that do look similar to her, but I wouldn't think they were mestiza, but rather than castiza/criolla with a small amount of Native American to pull their features eastward. I've seen Mexican women not too disimilar from her, but they didn't strike me as mestiza, but rather castiza-criolla. But of course everyone is entitled to an opinion.

I see, the problem here is you split Mestizos and Castizos as if they were really differing groups, whereas I do not (because they're not.) Otherwise I agree.

[Isleño]

Mestiza.
To me, mestizas have more Asiatic influence in the other parts of the face, not just the eyes. I don't think her influence in the eyes is great though. At first glance, she looked unaltered southeast Euro to me. But when I looked at the eyes closer, I could see minor central Asian influence. But there was none in the rest of the face. At least to me. If I had to say, maybe castiza-harniza range.

[Sikeliot]

Cover everything but the eyes and up and she could pass as East Asian. Like, a larger eyed Korean.

[Isleño]

I see, the problem here is you split Mestizos and Castizos as if they were really differing groups, whereas I do not (because they're not.) Otherwise I agree.

Yes, I am splitting them. If you just lump all admixed into mestizo then yes. But i'm splitting them. Just for Anthropology purposes, I'm aware that in general society this split is not as common.

[Isleño]

Cover everything but the eyes and up and she could pass as East Asian. Like, a larger eyed Korean.

Hold on, let me try that

[robertsmith]

I think there could probably be some minor central Asian influence, but it's so minor it's barely noticeable. At first glance I said no way. I had to look closely in the eyes to really notice. She looks atypical for southeast European, but not that much. At least to me.


So she is half Italian too apparently, but I don't think that explains her look either. It explains why she looks more SE European along with the Greek, but I still see her as looking Mexican.

I added her family pics..She is close to White, not Mestiza at all.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?128860-Why-does-Andrea-Tantaros-look-Mestiza&p=2710171&viewfull=1#post2710171

Check the link

[Han Cholo]

Yes, I am splitting them. If you just lump all admixed into mestizo then yes. But i'm splitting them. Just for Anthropology purposes, I'm aware that in general society this split is not as common.


Not all admixed. Only euro/indigenous that is significant enough to make them differ notably from a full Indigenous or a full Iberian.

[Sikeliot]

Her dad has a Pontic-Alpine look, kind of like me. Her mom is Med with minor Armenoid and Atlantid. And then she comes out looking Asian :lol:

[Isleño]

Not all admixed. Only euro/indigenous that is significant enough to make them differ notably from a full Indigenous or a full Iberian.

Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry I didn't make that evident.

[Isleño]

Her mom and brothers

http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/thumbnails/i/082713/0/0/082713_five_andrea_640.jpghttp://foxnewsinsider.com/sites/foxnewsinsider.com/files/082713_tantaros_555.jpg
I agree. She looks very European. But at close examination, there is a tiny bit of central Asian influence in the eyes. Her family doesn't look like this. It could be a distant gene resurfacing causing this.

Her dad, mom, and brother
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2932/14071777932_e19c6859da_m.jpg

I agree, she still looks European. But at close examination of the eyes, there is a tiny bit of central Asian influence. It could be from a gene containing distant DNA material that is resurfacing in her phenotype. I don't see anything much else besides the influence a tiny bit in the eyes. Maybe a tiny bit in the skull. But her family looks European and in the pics here she looks European pretty much.

[Sikeliot]

She looks more like her mother than her father, just not the eyes.

[Isleño]

IMO if you cover the lower part of her face and only look at the eyes she can pass as East Asian.
After closer examination, the influence has a subtle presence in the eyes and skull. But it's subtle I believe, nothing significant. From looking at her family that shows no sign of this, it could be some distant ancestry in her DNA that is trivial, but resurfaced in her phenotype. At first look (without examination) she struck me as a typical southeast Euro. Only after examination did I really see the influence. But I can agree, it's there, but subtle. Interesting. I would say possibly castiza-harniza range in looks, but is she really that much, we don't know. From the looks of her family, probably not, it's probably something trivial that just floated to the top.

[Isleño]

She actually looks a little like the Kardashian girls, of that type almost (up close, not from afar) so it's the eyes mainly.

[Sikeliot]

Neither of her parents looks particularly exotic to me though.

[nose]

she doesnt look mestiza to me, she wouldnt fit in mexico

edit: at least this time he didnt say that the mestizos look like austronesians

[robertsmith]

Neither of her parents looks particularly exotic to me though.

her dad does.

[Sikeliot]

her dad does.

He could fit in France just fine.

[Trun]

:picard1:

She looks absoultely normal for the region.

[robertsmith]

:picard1:

She looks absoultely normal for the region.


http://images.firstcovers.com/covers/flash/t/troll_troll_everywhere-1665880.jpg?i

[Trun]

http://images.firstcovers.com/covers/flash/t/troll_troll_everywhere-1665880.jpg?i

Unlike everyone who posted in this thread, I actually live on the Balkans and have a bit better idea how Greeks look like :D

[robertsmith]

Unlike everyone who posted in this thread, I actually live on the Balkans and have a bit better idea how Greeks look like :D

This matters a lot.

[Aviator]

All Wogs look pretty much the same.

[Sikeliot]

:picard1:

She looks absoultely normal for the region.

So she can pass in Bulgaria too?

[cally]

Doesn't look Balkan.

[Trun]

Doesn't look Balkan.

She doesn't look Bulgarian but surely more Bulgarian than Mestiza.

Why the fuck am I quoting you? :lol: I quoted Sikeliot.

[Han Cholo]

She doesn't look Bulgarian but surely more Bulgarian than Mestiza.

How do you imagine a "mestizo" to look like?

[Linet]

I think she is just one woman with strange phenotype http://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/jump/h13020.gif, nothing to make a fuss about :noidea:


All Wogs look pretty much the same.

Some wogs :sunny: are way cooler than other :rockon:

[Gauthier]

It's the eyes and coloration that give her a mestizoid look.

She could walk down the street in my city and no one would even bother to look at her twice.

[Han Cholo]

It's the eyes and coloration that give her a mestizoid look.

She could walk down the street in my city and no one would even bother to look at her twice.

Certainly neither here. Some Greek members even agreed "Hermano de Awebo" looked Greek, so I really don't see why they are making a fuss about the inverted case.

[Trun]

How do you imagine a "mestizo" to look like?

Like Luis Suarez.

[Han Cholo]

Like Luis Suarez.

Him?
http://100x100fan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Luis-Suarez.jpg

[Trun]

Him?
http://100x100fan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Luis-Suarez.jpg

Yes.

Isn't he Mestizo?

[Gauthier]

Certainly neither here. Some Greek members even agreed "Hermano de Awebo" looked Greek, so I really don't see why they are making a fuss about the inverted case.

Didn't read the entire thread but it seems that overall the people who try to deny a minor overlap are the ones who feel the most insecure about their whiteness. :noidea:

[Han Cholo]

Yes.

Isn't he Mestizo?

For sure. But I'm not sure if his percentages are 50/50. What about these ones, which ones are mestizos and which ones aren't?


https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10001059_852068281473568_5175247584619462716_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10397106_852068154806914_8018532676721329932_o.jpg

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/p843x403/1900704_852067798140283_676963783517675229_o.jpg

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10317731_852067864806943_8357492708517334931_o.jpg

[Isleño]

Didn't read the entire thread but it seems that overall the people who try to deny a minor overlap are the ones who feel the most insecure about their whiteness. :noidea:

I think sometimes in Latin Americans with very minor Amerindian, it pulls their already very westernmost Iberian features toward the east just a little, enough to come across as Greek. As for those with larger amounts, I think it starts to enter the Turk-Central Asia look. As for this woman, at first I didn't really see her as that different, maybe atypical, but still Southern European. It wasn't until I looked closely into the eyes that I saw the subtle Central Asian influence. Also, there is a tiny bit in her skull too. But if you look at the pics of family, none of them look like this. So this leads me to believe any Central Asian admixture (probably via partial Turkish blood in her Greek parent) would be small, but just came to the surface in her particularly.

[Isleño]

Neither of her parents looks particularly exotic to me though.

This is why I think it's something trivial in her genome and just came to the surface in her phenotype particularly, but not the family. DNA is tricky like that. But even with that, I still don't see the influence as that much she still looks fairly Southern European, sorta with an "off" element. The only influence I can see is in the eyes and a tiny bit in the skull. But the rest of her face looks Southern Euro to me.

[Roy]

Turkish ancestor? I have no idea.

[Cleitus]

No way man. She doesn't look mestiza to me at all. She looks southeast European.

No, she looks south Italian or Spanish not south eastern european.

[Roy]

Her dad has a Pontic-Alpine look, kind of like me. Her mom is Med with minor Armenoid and Atlantid. And then she comes out looking Asian :lol:

You know that story about one girl with two white parents which turned out to be black-ish (from Republic of South Africa) ?

Genetics could work quite randomly at times.

[Isleño]

No, she looks south Italian or Spanish not south eastern european.

I don't think she looks Spanish, her features seem to be more eastern, I was guessing Greece. But one of her parents is Greek and one is Italian.

[Sikeliot]

No, she looks south Italian or Spanish not south eastern european.

South Italians don't look like Spanish. But I know you mean Balkan when you say SE European, and I agree she doesn't look like it.

[B01AB20]

I've seen many galicians and portuguese girls whit similar looks, must be an atlantic-iberian coastal thing, she would be seen as atypical in the mediterranean shores though.

palabrita del niño jesús...

[RMuller]

She is Greek but she looks mestiza.

http://p1cdn01.thewrap.com/images/2013/10/Tantaros.jpg
http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Content/130520/News/6_sat/thumbs/130525andrea1_210x305.jpg
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/lifestyle/files/2013/07/804b6577d4b957f52987db552bc7bdc7.jpeg
http://photos.famouswiki.com/a/andrea-tantaros-27081/gallery/andrea-tantaros-43357.jpg
https://republicansecuritycouncil.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/andrea1.jpg


She can pass for a Mexican "harniza" 1/3 amerindian-2/3 Iberian type. Is her dad the milkman?

[randomguy1235]

No way! Not at all, she looks typical Southern European!

Nah...

[Isleño]

Nah...

I wrote that after glancing at her, but I looked at her face closely and I can see minor Central Asian influence in the eyes and a little in the skull. But none of her family look like this. I think it's something distant resurfacing in her phenotype. But I still think the majority of her face looks Southern Euro, to me I only detect it a little in the eyes and skull.

[CordedWhelp]

Wow you're right, she Really does.

[Kiyant]

She doesnt look Türkmen at all (source: From a Türkmen himself)