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06-08-2014, 08:43 PM
http://russianwomentruth.com/a-new-generation-of-russian-women-in-turkey/
guess congratulations are in order for the Men in the Turkish Mediterranean city of Antalya.
I can guess that these men are QUITE happy to be living amongst such a population of Russian Ladies.
Turkish-Russian marriages make new melez generation
Saturday, July 12, 2008
Approximately 10,800 Russian women who live in the Turkish Mediterranean city of Antalya are married to Turkish men, and most of these brides are university graduates, professionals and entrepreneurs. Their children make up a new generation of 4,000 Russian-Turkish melez, or mixed, kids many of whom will enter primary school this year
Gülden Aydın
ANTALYA Hürriyet
Upon arrival in Antalya it is difficult not to notice the number of Russians. Aside from the two-and-a-half million Russian tourists who usually keep to themselves in holiday resorts, about 15,000 Russians, 80 percent of whom are women, are living, working and mingling with locals here. Their blonde, thin, tall children are easy to spot in traffic, parks, bike paths and markets. Representatives of this new generation in Antalya, almost all the kids in this large and diverse group speak both Russian and Turkish.
According to official data, 13,000 Russians live in Antalya, but the actual number is likely closer to 15,000. There are 310 active Russian companies in the city, and Russians are either managers or partners in 225 firms. The number of Russians who own real estate in the area is close to 800.
Russian women who settle in Antalya tend to be young university graduates and entrepreneurs. Contrary to many views in Turkey, these women are not hopeless unqualified immigrants who had no choice but to move to Turkey.The women are attracted to the climate, natural sites and easy travel from Russia. According to Mircalol Husanov, the consul general for Russia in Antalya, Russians are qualified, educated people who contribute to the citys social and cultural life.
No Russian neighborhoods
Russians who settle in Turkey are different from British and German residents. They do not live together in sites or blocs, and there is no Russian neighborhood in Antalya. Russians mingle with locals and try to speak Turkish with almost everyone. They are eager to learn Turkish to run their businesses effectively.
Intermarriage plays a big role. Russians in Antalya are mostly women married to Turkish men. According to the Foreigners Culture and Solidarity Association, or FCSA, in Antalya, there are doctors, engineers or economists among them; however most Russian residents work in the service and tourism sectors.
First generation of mixed kids heads to school
Families want their children to have an education that is valid in both countries. The FCSA offers language courses for Turkish-Russian children and there is a private school founded by Russian Victor Bikkenev. Diplomas from Bikkenevs school are not, however, valid in Russia, according to Husanov. Right now, there is a preparatory class in the Levent Aydın Anatolian High Schools elementary school department and a preschool class in the Governor Hüsnü Tuğlu Elementary School. In the next school year, Russian teachers will teach 40 children in the first, second and third grade classes.
The consulate plans to open an elementary school in Antalya in the future and to bring in teachers from Moscow.
Priests arrive from Russia for christening
Russians living in Antalya do not have a church. Husanov said, We know that this is a sensitive issue. We want to buy a lot in Antalya and build a decent church. I hope locals will not be disturbed by that. For now, Easter and similar holidays are observed in homes. For childrens christenings, a priest arrives twice a year from the Russian church in Istanbul and the ceremony takes place in homes.
Russian women were looked down on in Antalya in the past
Irina Okay is an economist from St. Petersburg. She met Necat Okay in Antalya, fell in love and got married in 2001. She was happy to settle in Antalya and was one of the first Russian women to marry a Turk and settle in the city. Learning Turkish from newspapers and television, Irina founded the FCSA in 2006.
If my husband hadnt helped me, our marriage wouldve ended. We Russians who arrived a decade ago were unfortunate in many respects. People looked down on us. We had to explain that we are different, well-educated and sophisticated women. In time, Turkish families have changed their opinions and now they like us.
Irinas husband, Necat, is a tourism agent. He describes himself as a typical Turkish man. I am pro-Western, he said, but no matter what I do, I am a Turk. I cannot change my certain way of thinking. Necat said because Russians are free sprits they are having a hard time overcoming a difficult period. Some of our traditions do not speak to them.
The Russian women, however, are different from Westerners. Due to the dire circumstances Russian-speaking countries have experienced in recent years, said Necat, if a Russian woman is happy in her marriage she tries hard to save it.
Arina Yılmaz, 36, from Siberia, holds a university degree in quality control and has lived in Antalya for seven years. Her husband Ethem is an exporter. The couple met in Russia. Arina came to Turkey three months after Mr. Yılmaz returned to Turkey. They have son a four-and-a-half-year-old son, Timur. I can say that I am happy; we tolerate each others choices.
Elena Durmuş, 35, studied economics at Moscow State University. Her husband is a contractor. Their son, Armağan, is seven-and-a-half years old. Their biggest worry is his education. There should be multi-language schools in Antalya. Why is only English being taught here?
Natalia Çelik was a hairdresser in Moscow. She arrived in Antalya 11 years ago as a tourist and met her husband Hasan. They have been married for three-and-a-half years and have two kids, Timur Paşa, 8, and Asya, 2. Natalia misses Moscow a lot and visits once a year.
Janna converted to Islam
Dr. Janna Doğancı from Moscow married Ata who runs the Savoy Hotel in Konyaaltı. Janna works at the hotels beauty center. They met in 1996 while Janna was on vacation in Antalya. Janna will soon become a Turkish citizen. She converted to Islam after reading the Koran in Russian. After we met we waited awhile to get married. In the meantime we have tried to figure out how to overcome the difficulties we face as a couple.
Shall we visit babuşka?
Nadia and Adil Kürşat Ayhan run the Lidana Hotel in Konyaaltı. Their son Deniz is 3 years old. They have been married for six years. Nadia is from the city of Krasnoyarsk, Siberia. They visit her mother in Siberia after the tourism season ends; Nadias parents visit Antalya during the summer. Nadia asks her son, Shall we visit babuşka? He replies, Da!
She said, I havent become a Turk yet. Her husband jumped in, If she had, we wouldnt be happy. To the question Are you in love? Nadia replies in laughter, Like a dog! Nadia knocks on wood, a common thing to do in both the Russian and Turkish traditions to avoid spoiling a good situation. When I came here I didnt even consider marrying a Turkish man. But we were so in love and it was impossible to let that go.
The FCSA has 100 members. They help Russians with the marriage process or to find a home in Antalya. The association introduces Russian and Turkish cultures. (Phone: (0242) 324 5235 okayirina@yandex.ru).
(You can read the original article here)
Now I know that this resort town and Turkey in general are very popular tourist destinations for Russians.
It seems that Turkey has done a very smart thing and not hampered the movements of these ladies with any restrictive visa regimes and has therefore allowed this positive development to happen.
Wouldnt it be great if other Western countries like the US, Canada, UK or Australia had the same attitude?
One can only wish.
But in the meantime places like Antalya might be another pretty good vacation spot to hang out in this time of year.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TS95OS38H820B9A17
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=turkish-press-scanner-2008-02-14
SABAH A four-star hotel in Istanbul's main Taksim Square declined to offer a room to a Turkish man and his Russian girlfriend on the grounds that a Turk and a Russian cannot stay in the same room, daily Sabah reported yesterday. Mehmet Alan, a financial expert living in Istanbul, invited his girlfriend, Natalia Patrekeeva, an architect living in Russia, to Turkey. Once they arrived at the hotel the couple, who plan to marry soon, was shocked to hear that despite having made a reservation, they could not stay in the same room. Alan said: Natalia has been treated as if she is a sex worker. I will file a complaint to the Ministry of Culture and Tourism. Hoteliers
SABAH
A four-star hotel in Istanbul's main Taksim Square declined to offer a room to a Turkish man and his Russian girlfriend on the grounds that a Turk and a Russian cannot stay in the same room, daily Sabah reported yesterday.
Mehmet Alan, a financial expert living in Istanbul, invited his girlfriend, Natalia Patrekeeva, an architect living in Russia, to Turkey. Once they arrived at the hotel the couple, who plan to marry soon, was shocked to hear that despite having made a reservation, they could not stay in the same room.
Alan said: Natalia has been treated as if she is a sex worker. I will file a complaint to the Ministry of Culture and Tourism.
Hoteliers say it is the Turkish police that orders them not to allow Turkish men and Russian women spend the night together in hotels. Such cases negatively affect tourism in Turkey and the ministry should interfere immediately, hoteliers maintain.
Lawyers said Alan and Patrekeeva can sue the hotel and might get compensation. Meanwhile, Russian newspaper Pravda wrote, in response to the incident, that a total of 200,000 Russian women have got married to Turks within the last 10 years. Pravda also reported that 60,000 out of those women who got married to Turks have already settled in Turkey. The Russian Consulate in the Trabzon province on the Black Sea coast also said about 60,000 Russian women have got married to Turks within the last five years.
STAR
Price of land rises in eastern Anatolia
The price of land even in the most remote parts of eastern Anatolia has risen as shopping center investments have expanded to the east of the country, daily Star reported yesterday.
Global Holding bought land in the eastern province of Van for YTL 136 per square meter. The price of 16,000 square meters amounts to a total of YTL 19 million.
The Common Partnership group of Global Holding and the company's subsidiary firm Pera Real Estate Investment Partnership are preparing to launch their first investment in Van.
The new project will consist of a shopping center and a hotel to meet the needs of Van residents and visitors to the region, Global Holding said in a statement. Van Mayor Burhan Yenigun said as well that the project would employ some 400 people. Expecting the project to be completed in two months, Yenigün said the shopping center will revive he regional economy and create new job opportunities as well.Dutch company Redvco has invested in the eastern province of Erzurum, while Rönesans Construction Company has is planning a shopping center project in southeastern Gaziantep. In Malatya as well, Rönesans is working on another shopping center project in cooperation with local businessmen.
MİLLİYET
Conquest celebrations extended to one month
The Greater Istanbul Municipality has extended the conventional weeklong celebrations marking the conquest of Istanbul to one month, daily Milliyet reported yesterday.
Issuing an announcement regarding the tender to invite bids to organize this year's celebrations, the municipality announced that this year's celebrations will be no different than past celebrations in terms of the way they are held. The celebration period has been extended to 28 days in order to increase participation in the tender that will be held on Mar. 19, the municipality said. This year's celebrations will mark the 555th anniversary of the conquest of Byzantine imperial capital Constantinople by Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II on May 29, 1453. The celebrations will take place in ancient Golden Horn from May 2-29. A spokesman from the municipality said this year's celebrations will include new elements such as more tribunes that will be established in the celebration area. We do not foresee one-month-long celebrations, we have only extended the preparation period in order to attract more firms to participate in our tender for conquest celebrations, he said. We shall have the same celebration program as we had last year, he added. Last year's celebrations lasted three days and were carried out by Kültür A.Ş., a company owned by the municipality.
BUGÜN
Pirates copy Koran DVDs
A group of CD counterfeiters in Turkey copied DVDs of Islam's holy book Koran, and then, asked the firm that owns the copyright of the DVDs to give them its blessing, daily Bugün reported yesterday.
CD pirates copying everything from movies to computer software programs have finally copied Koran DVDs that are produced by Goldsoft, a software company that has been producing CD and DVD versions of Islamic works including translations of the Koran and Al-Kutub As-Sittah (six major books of Prophet Mohammed's sayings or the hadith) for the last nine years. Goldsoft Software Project Director Lütfü Güven said they have achieved a first in the world by producing a set of three DVDs including voice recordings of the entire Koran and its Turkish, English and German versions. We order our CDs from abroad and the software costs us a lot. But the pirates copying them have no respect for our labor, said Güven. Noting they have ordered a special software program to fight against piracy, but still have failed, Güven said, pirates call us and tell us they copy our works because they like it very much. Moreover, they unashamedly ask us to give them our blessing. Goldsoft's recent DVDs start with the following message: All studies the present DVD contains are a product of years of work. We shall not give our blessing to those who copy them.
http://www.meetingland.com/personals/ethnic-personals/polish-women-looking-for-men/TR.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nJfyhYWls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gYDdUzk0gc
http://www.turkeycentral.com/topic/12093-american-woman-and-turkish-man/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUqKSxH1cb8
Stop this genocide and race-mixing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guess congratulations are in order for the Men in the Turkish Mediterranean city of Antalya.
I can guess that these men are QUITE happy to be living amongst such a population of Russian Ladies.
Turkish-Russian marriages make new melez generation
Saturday, July 12, 2008
Approximately 10,800 Russian women who live in the Turkish Mediterranean city of Antalya are married to Turkish men, and most of these brides are university graduates, professionals and entrepreneurs. Their children make up a new generation of 4,000 Russian-Turkish melez, or mixed, kids many of whom will enter primary school this year
Gülden Aydın
ANTALYA Hürriyet
Upon arrival in Antalya it is difficult not to notice the number of Russians. Aside from the two-and-a-half million Russian tourists who usually keep to themselves in holiday resorts, about 15,000 Russians, 80 percent of whom are women, are living, working and mingling with locals here. Their blonde, thin, tall children are easy to spot in traffic, parks, bike paths and markets. Representatives of this new generation in Antalya, almost all the kids in this large and diverse group speak both Russian and Turkish.
According to official data, 13,000 Russians live in Antalya, but the actual number is likely closer to 15,000. There are 310 active Russian companies in the city, and Russians are either managers or partners in 225 firms. The number of Russians who own real estate in the area is close to 800.
Russian women who settle in Antalya tend to be young university graduates and entrepreneurs. Contrary to many views in Turkey, these women are not hopeless unqualified immigrants who had no choice but to move to Turkey.The women are attracted to the climate, natural sites and easy travel from Russia. According to Mircalol Husanov, the consul general for Russia in Antalya, Russians are qualified, educated people who contribute to the citys social and cultural life.
No Russian neighborhoods
Russians who settle in Turkey are different from British and German residents. They do not live together in sites or blocs, and there is no Russian neighborhood in Antalya. Russians mingle with locals and try to speak Turkish with almost everyone. They are eager to learn Turkish to run their businesses effectively.
Intermarriage plays a big role. Russians in Antalya are mostly women married to Turkish men. According to the Foreigners Culture and Solidarity Association, or FCSA, in Antalya, there are doctors, engineers or economists among them; however most Russian residents work in the service and tourism sectors.
First generation of mixed kids heads to school
Families want their children to have an education that is valid in both countries. The FCSA offers language courses for Turkish-Russian children and there is a private school founded by Russian Victor Bikkenev. Diplomas from Bikkenevs school are not, however, valid in Russia, according to Husanov. Right now, there is a preparatory class in the Levent Aydın Anatolian High Schools elementary school department and a preschool class in the Governor Hüsnü Tuğlu Elementary School. In the next school year, Russian teachers will teach 40 children in the first, second and third grade classes.
The consulate plans to open an elementary school in Antalya in the future and to bring in teachers from Moscow.
Priests arrive from Russia for christening
Russians living in Antalya do not have a church. Husanov said, We know that this is a sensitive issue. We want to buy a lot in Antalya and build a decent church. I hope locals will not be disturbed by that. For now, Easter and similar holidays are observed in homes. For childrens christenings, a priest arrives twice a year from the Russian church in Istanbul and the ceremony takes place in homes.
Russian women were looked down on in Antalya in the past
Irina Okay is an economist from St. Petersburg. She met Necat Okay in Antalya, fell in love and got married in 2001. She was happy to settle in Antalya and was one of the first Russian women to marry a Turk and settle in the city. Learning Turkish from newspapers and television, Irina founded the FCSA in 2006.
If my husband hadnt helped me, our marriage wouldve ended. We Russians who arrived a decade ago were unfortunate in many respects. People looked down on us. We had to explain that we are different, well-educated and sophisticated women. In time, Turkish families have changed their opinions and now they like us.
Irinas husband, Necat, is a tourism agent. He describes himself as a typical Turkish man. I am pro-Western, he said, but no matter what I do, I am a Turk. I cannot change my certain way of thinking. Necat said because Russians are free sprits they are having a hard time overcoming a difficult period. Some of our traditions do not speak to them.
The Russian women, however, are different from Westerners. Due to the dire circumstances Russian-speaking countries have experienced in recent years, said Necat, if a Russian woman is happy in her marriage she tries hard to save it.
Arina Yılmaz, 36, from Siberia, holds a university degree in quality control and has lived in Antalya for seven years. Her husband Ethem is an exporter. The couple met in Russia. Arina came to Turkey three months after Mr. Yılmaz returned to Turkey. They have son a four-and-a-half-year-old son, Timur. I can say that I am happy; we tolerate each others choices.
Elena Durmuş, 35, studied economics at Moscow State University. Her husband is a contractor. Their son, Armağan, is seven-and-a-half years old. Their biggest worry is his education. There should be multi-language schools in Antalya. Why is only English being taught here?
Natalia Çelik was a hairdresser in Moscow. She arrived in Antalya 11 years ago as a tourist and met her husband Hasan. They have been married for three-and-a-half years and have two kids, Timur Paşa, 8, and Asya, 2. Natalia misses Moscow a lot and visits once a year.
Janna converted to Islam
Dr. Janna Doğancı from Moscow married Ata who runs the Savoy Hotel in Konyaaltı. Janna works at the hotels beauty center. They met in 1996 while Janna was on vacation in Antalya. Janna will soon become a Turkish citizen. She converted to Islam after reading the Koran in Russian. After we met we waited awhile to get married. In the meantime we have tried to figure out how to overcome the difficulties we face as a couple.
Shall we visit babuşka?
Nadia and Adil Kürşat Ayhan run the Lidana Hotel in Konyaaltı. Their son Deniz is 3 years old. They have been married for six years. Nadia is from the city of Krasnoyarsk, Siberia. They visit her mother in Siberia after the tourism season ends; Nadias parents visit Antalya during the summer. Nadia asks her son, Shall we visit babuşka? He replies, Da!
She said, I havent become a Turk yet. Her husband jumped in, If she had, we wouldnt be happy. To the question Are you in love? Nadia replies in laughter, Like a dog! Nadia knocks on wood, a common thing to do in both the Russian and Turkish traditions to avoid spoiling a good situation. When I came here I didnt even consider marrying a Turkish man. But we were so in love and it was impossible to let that go.
The FCSA has 100 members. They help Russians with the marriage process or to find a home in Antalya. The association introduces Russian and Turkish cultures. (Phone: (0242) 324 5235 okayirina@yandex.ru).
(You can read the original article here)
Now I know that this resort town and Turkey in general are very popular tourist destinations for Russians.
It seems that Turkey has done a very smart thing and not hampered the movements of these ladies with any restrictive visa regimes and has therefore allowed this positive development to happen.
Wouldnt it be great if other Western countries like the US, Canada, UK or Australia had the same attitude?
One can only wish.
But in the meantime places like Antalya might be another pretty good vacation spot to hang out in this time of year.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TS95OS38H820B9A17
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=turkish-press-scanner-2008-02-14
SABAH A four-star hotel in Istanbul's main Taksim Square declined to offer a room to a Turkish man and his Russian girlfriend on the grounds that a Turk and a Russian cannot stay in the same room, daily Sabah reported yesterday. Mehmet Alan, a financial expert living in Istanbul, invited his girlfriend, Natalia Patrekeeva, an architect living in Russia, to Turkey. Once they arrived at the hotel the couple, who plan to marry soon, was shocked to hear that despite having made a reservation, they could not stay in the same room. Alan said: Natalia has been treated as if she is a sex worker. I will file a complaint to the Ministry of Culture and Tourism. Hoteliers
SABAH
A four-star hotel in Istanbul's main Taksim Square declined to offer a room to a Turkish man and his Russian girlfriend on the grounds that a Turk and a Russian cannot stay in the same room, daily Sabah reported yesterday.
Mehmet Alan, a financial expert living in Istanbul, invited his girlfriend, Natalia Patrekeeva, an architect living in Russia, to Turkey. Once they arrived at the hotel the couple, who plan to marry soon, was shocked to hear that despite having made a reservation, they could not stay in the same room.
Alan said: Natalia has been treated as if she is a sex worker. I will file a complaint to the Ministry of Culture and Tourism.
Hoteliers say it is the Turkish police that orders them not to allow Turkish men and Russian women spend the night together in hotels. Such cases negatively affect tourism in Turkey and the ministry should interfere immediately, hoteliers maintain.
Lawyers said Alan and Patrekeeva can sue the hotel and might get compensation. Meanwhile, Russian newspaper Pravda wrote, in response to the incident, that a total of 200,000 Russian women have got married to Turks within the last 10 years. Pravda also reported that 60,000 out of those women who got married to Turks have already settled in Turkey. The Russian Consulate in the Trabzon province on the Black Sea coast also said about 60,000 Russian women have got married to Turks within the last five years.
STAR
Price of land rises in eastern Anatolia
The price of land even in the most remote parts of eastern Anatolia has risen as shopping center investments have expanded to the east of the country, daily Star reported yesterday.
Global Holding bought land in the eastern province of Van for YTL 136 per square meter. The price of 16,000 square meters amounts to a total of YTL 19 million.
The Common Partnership group of Global Holding and the company's subsidiary firm Pera Real Estate Investment Partnership are preparing to launch their first investment in Van.
The new project will consist of a shopping center and a hotel to meet the needs of Van residents and visitors to the region, Global Holding said in a statement. Van Mayor Burhan Yenigun said as well that the project would employ some 400 people. Expecting the project to be completed in two months, Yenigün said the shopping center will revive he regional economy and create new job opportunities as well.Dutch company Redvco has invested in the eastern province of Erzurum, while Rönesans Construction Company has is planning a shopping center project in southeastern Gaziantep. In Malatya as well, Rönesans is working on another shopping center project in cooperation with local businessmen.
MİLLİYET
Conquest celebrations extended to one month
The Greater Istanbul Municipality has extended the conventional weeklong celebrations marking the conquest of Istanbul to one month, daily Milliyet reported yesterday.
Issuing an announcement regarding the tender to invite bids to organize this year's celebrations, the municipality announced that this year's celebrations will be no different than past celebrations in terms of the way they are held. The celebration period has been extended to 28 days in order to increase participation in the tender that will be held on Mar. 19, the municipality said. This year's celebrations will mark the 555th anniversary of the conquest of Byzantine imperial capital Constantinople by Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II on May 29, 1453. The celebrations will take place in ancient Golden Horn from May 2-29. A spokesman from the municipality said this year's celebrations will include new elements such as more tribunes that will be established in the celebration area. We do not foresee one-month-long celebrations, we have only extended the preparation period in order to attract more firms to participate in our tender for conquest celebrations, he said. We shall have the same celebration program as we had last year, he added. Last year's celebrations lasted three days and were carried out by Kültür A.Ş., a company owned by the municipality.
BUGÜN
Pirates copy Koran DVDs
A group of CD counterfeiters in Turkey copied DVDs of Islam's holy book Koran, and then, asked the firm that owns the copyright of the DVDs to give them its blessing, daily Bugün reported yesterday.
CD pirates copying everything from movies to computer software programs have finally copied Koran DVDs that are produced by Goldsoft, a software company that has been producing CD and DVD versions of Islamic works including translations of the Koran and Al-Kutub As-Sittah (six major books of Prophet Mohammed's sayings or the hadith) for the last nine years. Goldsoft Software Project Director Lütfü Güven said they have achieved a first in the world by producing a set of three DVDs including voice recordings of the entire Koran and its Turkish, English and German versions. We order our CDs from abroad and the software costs us a lot. But the pirates copying them have no respect for our labor, said Güven. Noting they have ordered a special software program to fight against piracy, but still have failed, Güven said, pirates call us and tell us they copy our works because they like it very much. Moreover, they unashamedly ask us to give them our blessing. Goldsoft's recent DVDs start with the following message: All studies the present DVD contains are a product of years of work. We shall not give our blessing to those who copy them.
http://www.meetingland.com/personals/ethnic-personals/polish-women-looking-for-men/TR.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nJfyhYWls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gYDdUzk0gc
http://www.turkeycentral.com/topic/12093-american-woman-and-turkish-man/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUqKSxH1cb8
Stop this genocide and race-mixing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!