Isis militants kidnap Turkish diplomats after seizing consulate in Mosul

[Annihilus]

Jihadists seized the Turkish consulate in the Iraqi city of Mosul and kidnapped the head of the diplomatic mission along with 24 staff members as residents fled the city in their thousands on Wednesday

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/11/isis-militants-kidnap-turkish-diplomats-consulate-mosul-iraq

Now is time for tsk to show some action.

[Kemalisté]

We have to intervene. I will back the government about this although I was opposed to intervention in Syria. These terrorist islamist scums have to be eliminated. And if Erdogan wanna prove his strength and leadership he should do this.

[Annihilus]

I think everybody in Turkey is united about this

but, we need solve something, kurt, turk kardes mi degilmi?

[RussiaPrussia]

We have to intervene. I will back the government about this although I was opposed to intervention in Syria. These terrorist islamist scums have to be eliminated. And if Erdogan wanna prove his strength and leadership he should do this.

well it has to be said that if erdogan wouldnt have supported the jihadists it wouldnt have happened i the first place. Turkey should completely change their foreign policy and support assad.

[Annihilus]

well it has to be said that if erdogan wouldnt have supported the jihadists it wouldnt have happened i the first place. Turkey should completely change their foreign policy and support assad.

Atm Turks in control are like a whore, who has most money they turn their ass to.

Arab tops lol

[Kemalisté]

well it has to be said that if erdogan wouldnt have supported the jihadists it wouldnt have happened i the first place. Turkey should completely change their foreign policy and support assad.

You're right, Erdogan has zero vision, he was entirely under the illusion that he could re-establish the Ottoman Empire and become a worldwide Sultan. But he's getting to know about the Middle Eastern realities now.

[Rojava]

Barzani is Erdogan's agent. Don't worry, he will do the job for him.

As far as I know, Rudaw (Kurdish news thing) used their phones to contact the Turkish diplomats. It was picked up by an ISIS spokesperson who said that they are safe.

[Borna]

Turks were supporting ISIS since the start of Syrian war. You reap what you sow.

[gültekin]

Turks were supporting ISIS since the start of Syrian war. You reap what you sow.

all western+israel supporting the opposition in Syria against Esad, like in Libya,Tunisia, Egypt. Erdogan is only the black ship of them.

[gültekin]

ben bunun Süleymaniye kabri yerine uydurulan Türkiye'yi savaşa sokma senaryosu olarak görüyorum. davidoğlu yahudisinin işi

[LightHouse89]

you do realize Barry has been releasing many of them from Gitmo......where did he think they would go and what they would do upon their return? My God Washington DC is filled with some pretty stupid people.

[Yaroslav]

Turkey and Iran should co-invade and annex it by religious lines. North/Sunni to Turkey, South/Shia to Iran.

[Óttar]

It's an absolute travesty these human filth are using the name ISIS (a Hellenistic - Egyptian goddess) for their organization. These people should be strangled with their torn-out intestines.

[Petros Houhoulis]

all western+israel supporting the opposition in Syria against Esad, like in Libya,Tunisia, Egypt. Erdogan is only the black ship of them.

You should go back to the lynatic asylum where you fled from. The west was basically taking money from Sunni Muslims to provide weapons to the Jihadis, and NOT EVEN QUALITY WEAPONS. Only Turkey granted them anti-aircraft missiles and perhaps even chemical weapons...

If you turn against ISIS now, they might start shooting down your airplanes, with the anti-aircraft missiles you provided them in the first place...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Turkey and Iran should co-invade and annex it by religious lines. North/Sunni to Turkey, South/Shia to Iran.

The Turks can't beat the Kurds at home soil, do you believe they can beat them outside of Turkey???

[The Lawspeaker]

It's time for Operation Annihilation. Send in the troops and butcher the lot.

[Petros Houhoulis]

It's time for Operation Annihilation. Send in the troops and butcher the lot.

Well, as long as it is Turkish troops we don't give a shit, they are cheap meat, but from our perspective, the whole region is not worth the bones of a Pomeranian grenadier...

[The Lawspeaker]

Well, as long as it is Turkish troops we don't give a shit, they are cheap meat, but from our perspective, the whole region is not worth the bones of a Pomeranian grenadier...

I agree. Let the Turks do it. The only thing we should expend on that part of the world are some of our ageing nukes.

[gültekin]

I agree. Let the Turks do it. The only thing we should expend on that part of the world are some of our ageing nukes.

you can tuck your nukes deep inside of you. you live in a drug supporter state,prostitution trade center, feeding the junkies all over europe, and do you think, you're sufficient enough fr talking about turkey u jerk?

[The Lawspeaker]

you can tuck your nukes deep inside of you. you live in a drug supporter state,prostitution trade center, feeding the junkies all over europe, and do you think, you're sufficient enough fr talking about turkey u jerk?

And you're bankrupt. :) We're not.

[denz]

We need to get Musul and protect all Turkmens and liberate it

[gültekin]

And you're bankrupt. :) We're not.
we hahaha, you're so ignorant and fool

[The Lawspeaker]

We need to get Musul and protect all Turkmens and liberate it

Go right ahead. Just don't bother us with it.

[The Lawspeaker]

we hahaha, you're so ignorant and fool
You're not here in Europe because things go so well for you.

[gültekin]

You're not here in Europe because things go so well for you.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-11-2014/0sHj9a.gif

[Kemalisté]

http://i.capsspot.com/s/29/2/846295.png

[StonyArabia]

We need to get Musul and protect all Turkmens and liberate it

Mosul is majority Arab state, Turkmens are minority and don't live only Mosul. However Turkmens being largely Sunni are unhappy with the Central Iraqi government just like their Arab counterparts. Although this situation is very dire right now, and maybe Mosul would have indeed been better off as region of Turkey like Hatay is.

[gültekin]

Mosul is majority Arab state, Turkmens are minority and don't live only Mosul. However Turkmens being largely Sunni are unhappy with the Central Iraqi government just like their Arab counterparts. Although this situation is very dire right now, and maybe Mosul would have indeed been better off as region of Turkey like Hatay is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Misak-i_milli.png
Mosul and Kirkuk is Turkmen, and still in Misak-ı Milli borders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misak-%C4%B1_Mill%C3%AE

[StonyArabia]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Misak-i_milli.png Mosul and Kirkuk is Turkmen, and still in Misak-ı Milli borders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misak-%C4%B1_Mill%C3%AE

I agree with Kirkuk being a Turkmen region/city, but Mosul is majority Arab, but with significant Turkmen enclaves.

[Kemalisté]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Misak-i_milli.png
Mosul and Kirkuk is Turkmen, and still in Misak-ı Milli borders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misak-%C4%B1_Mill%C3%AE

Turkey in Misak-i Milli borders would look like a Swiss army knife.

[gültekin]

vay aq. :laugh:
http://www.haberinyeri.net/d/news/100794.jpg

[Kemalisté]

vay aq. :laugh:
http://www.haberinyeri.net/d/news/100794.jpg

http://inciswf.com/kql00skk.swf

[Rojava]

Stop with the bullshit. Kirkuk is Kurdish. Most of Mosul, or Nineveh as I call it, is Assyrian. Most Arabs in Mosul and in Kirkuk were sent there by Saddam, they are not natives and so should go back to their original cities.

The first Turkmens (or Oghuz Turks) arrived in the 7th century as SOLDIERS. The numbers did not EVEN exceed 2000 people. So:

1: They are also not natives
2: They don't even form a majority in any city.

[gültekin]

http://inciswf.com/kql00skk.swf
banamı diyorsun, metiner'emi?

[Kemalisté]

banamı diyorsun, metiner'emi?

yok abi sana niye diyim

[Rojava]

Thanks for the thumbs down. Now may you prove me wrong or are you just butthurt?

[Anatolian Eagle]

Barzani is Erdogan's agent. Don't worry, he will do the job for him.

As far as I know, Rudaw (Kurdish news thing) used their phones to contact the Turkish diplomats. It was picked up by an ISIS spokesperson who said that they are safe.

You know, they're possesing great danger to you aswell. Don't you think it's more logical to cooperate with us against them rather than having your region overrun by jihadists?

[Rojava]

KIRKUK IS LIBERATED



After Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) gangs took control of Mosul and some other cities, Iraqi soldiers have also fled Kirkuk. The city has thus come fully under the control of Peshmerga forces.

Peshmerga spokesman Jabbar Yaver declared that “all of Kirkuk and the surrounding area has been taken under the control of the Peshmerga”. He also stated that “currently, no Iraqi soldiers are left in Kirkuk.”

Kirkuk, which has population of 1,200,000, is located at the centre of an oil region. After capturing Mosul, ISIS has taken many districts around the city when the Iraqi army withdrew.

However, Peshmerga forces are reported to have recaptured some places from the ISIS gangs in Kirkuk. After heavy clashes, the village of Til al-Werd approximately 25 km southwest of Kirkuk has been taken the ISIS gangs. In the meantime, the Iraqi army has recaptured the village of Al Multeka in the Hawije district, 50 km southwest of the city.

Peshmerga also stated that the strategic intersection of Fethe which connects the Beji, Hawije and Riyaz regions are under the control of Peshmerga forces.

[Kemalisté]

Thanks for the thumbs down. Now may you prove me wrong or are you just butthurt?

dude why are you so fanatic? just grow up already.

[gültekin]

Thanks for the thumbs down. Now may you prove me wrong or are you just butthurt?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpyvMAdIgAIu7x-.jpg

[Rojava]

dude why are you so fanatic? just grow up already.

Grow up? I'm the guy that's calling for Turkish and Kurdish unity. But no, the only thing specific people reply with is "this city is Turkmen" or "Fuck off you invader". I'm sorry, but I'm sick of the attitude of these nationalists who are nothing but blind. I've honestly given up on an alliance with Turks. Don't blame me, blame your comrades.

[Rojava]

And there you go Kemaliste, Gultekin's post just proved my point.

[Kemalisté]

Grow up? I'm the guy that's calling for Turkish and Kurdish unity. But no, the only thing specific people reply with is "this city is Turkmen" or "Fuck off you invader". I'm sorry, but I'm sick of the attitude of these nationalists who are nothing but blind. I've honestly given up on an alliance with Turks. Don't blame me, blame your comrades.

try to use a more moderate language I thought you were reasonable but you've been so radical lately

[gültekin]

And there you go Kemaliste, Gultekin's post just proved my point.



so keep your fucking mouth, if u dont want that i'm your whore mom without using soap rape
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpyvMAdIgAIu7x-.jpg

[Rojava]

try to use a more moderate language I thought you were reasonable but you've been so radical lately

I honestly don't know how to reply to this by using moderate language:


so keep your fucking mouth, if u dont want that i'm your whore mom without using soap rape


I have changed my mind. i will not be your hairy mom. I left to Arabs. seems they have more experience with goats

There are Kurds that call me "blind for trying to see the good in Turks." Maybe I am. Partizan, one of the most "intellectual" people I have met online, claimed that "Kurds are a made up ethnic group by imperialist forces in the 20th century". Up until recently I didn't take people like him seriously, but by the day I see more people like him.

[gültekin]

I honestly don't know how to reply to this by using moderate language:





There are Kurds that call me "blind for trying to see the good in Turks." Maybe I am. Partizan, one of the most "intellectual" people I have met online, claimed that "Kurds are a made up ethnic group by imperialist forces in the 20th century". Up until recently I didn't take people like him seriously, but by the day I see more people like him.
http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/969536/flags/LL

[Rojava]

See Kemaliste, this is exactly what I mean. But I won't say anything else. Anyway I hope you understand.

[Yaroslav]

The Turks can't beat the Kurds at home soil, do you believe they can beat them outside of Turkey???

They can and will if they ever get a competent ruler.

[Kemalisté]

http://www.gercekgundem.com/images/posts/201406/360b98dc67690cf1_480x270.jpg

[Petros Houhoulis]

You know, they're possesing great danger to you aswell. Don't you think it's more logical to cooperate with us against them rather than having your region overrun by jihadists?

You are already cooperating with the Jihadists, haven't you noticed the official policy of the Turkish state?

[gültekin]

You are already cooperating with the Jihadists, haven't you noticed the official policy of the Turkish state?
moron :picard1:^^^ where are producing them :noidea:

[Petros Houhoulis]

They can and will if they ever get a competent ruler.

They shall always be licking the Yankees' balls, and if you were smart enough, you would have noticed...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AARtO88G5Ag


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHbqhy2DSxE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zIQKAj7gM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCYMU3zYH0

It's never too late to realize the true role of the Turks as the underminers of Russia and China...

[Petros Houhoulis]

moron :picard1:^^^ where are producing them :noidea:

Everybody knows that the Islamist government of Turkey is supporting the Jihadists in Syria, everybody except for the resident moron who can't figure out that the Jihadists in Syria and the Jihadists in Iraq are the same exact shit.

You are a moron even for Turkish standards, a very unique diagrace indeed!

[gültekin]

They shall always be licking the Yankees' balls, and if you were smart enough, you would have noticed...
It's never too late to realize the true role of the Turks as the underminers of Russia and China...
u wanna try to talking jet another bullshit, out of your blunt head ?

[gültekin]

Everybody knows that the Islamist government of Turkey is supporting the Jihadists in Syria, everybody except for the resident moron who can't figure out that the Jihadists in Syria and the Jihadists in Iraq are the same exact shit.

You are a moron even for Turkish standards, a very unique diagrace indeed!
puah jeah talk more u idiot. we know that erdogan does, but we also know that erdogan is a black ship of Us+Eu+israil.

[Rojava]

u wanna try to talking jet another bullshit, out of your blunt head ?

You wanna try talking in English?

[gültekin]

You wanna try talking in English?
siktir git lan sen göt

[gültekin]

all faggots should unite against us
come on u cocsuckers, and test our balls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDLfKXBQWro

[Rojava]

all faggots should unite against us
come on u cocsuckers, and test our balls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDLfKXBQWro

Wtf? Do you even know how ineffective those items are in mountains? You would get raped by any army if you focused on using them in guerrilla warfare. You mad?

[LightHouse89]

I will side with Norway because they are neutral and dont care about the worlds problems.

[LightHouse89]

guerilla warafre is the least effective way of winning a war.

[gültekin]

Wtf? Do you even know how ineffective those items are in mountains? You would get raped by any army if you focused on using them in guerrilla warfare. You mad?
watch ur ass u moron
http://millicumhuriyet.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/pkk-terc3b6ristleri-tsk1.jpg?w=595&h=446

[Rojava]

guerilla warafre is the least effective way of winning a war.

That's why Vietcong raped your asses right?

[Rojava]

whach ur ass u moron
http://millicumhuriyet.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/pkk-terc3b6ristleri-tsk1.jpg?w=595&h=446

Watch*
Your*
You*

I do not give two shits about Photoshopped pictures.

[gültekin]

Watch*
Your*
You*

I do not give two shits about Photoshopped pictures.
hahah. shop ur own ass u puppy dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSYhQw2gZos

[Rojava]

hahah. shop ur own ass u puppy dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSYhQw2gZos

I will run a test to see if it's Photoshopped. How am I to know those are PKK guerrillas? For all I know, they could just be average citizens. But whoever they are, Turkish soldiers are the most disrespectful sons of bitches.

[gültekin]

I will run a test to see if it's Photoshopped. How am I to know those are PKK guerrillas? For all I know, they could just be average citizens. But whoever they are, Turkish soldiers are the most disrespectful sons of bitches.
give your adress, and try the real test u faggot. with a G3 bullet in your small ass

[Rojava]

give your adress, and try the real test u faggot. with a G3 bullet in your small ass

Qandil. :) I dare you.

[gültekin]

Qandil. :) I dare you.
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfKGrOdCAlc

[wvwvw]

ISIS leader tells cheering Mosul crowd: “We will establish state ruled by Quran and Sunnah”

He also says, “By Allah, we embarked on our Jihad only to support the religion of Allah.” Only. And yet U.S. analysts will tell you that he is fighting because of his poverty and ignorance (even though ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has a doctorate in Islamic studies), and that he doesn’t understand the religion for which he professes to be fighting, and that whatever state he may found will not be based on the Qur’an and Sunnah, his intentions notwithstanding.

This superficial and fantasy-based analysis stops there, with no attempt to go farther and determine how this supposed misunderstanding of Islam came to be so widespread, and what can be done about it other than countering the alleged “root causes” of “radicalization,” i.e. by throwing money at the problem.

“Crowd Gathers to Show Support of ISIS Takeover of Mosul,” MEMRI, June 12, 2014:

A video posted on the Internet on June 12, 2014, showed a large crowd of Iraqis cheering in support of ISIS, as one of the organization’s leaders was delivering a speech. The ISIS leader ended his comments with a round of bullets to the cheers of the crowd.

Masked ISIS commander, waving a rifle: By Allah, we embarked on our Jihad only to support the religion of Allah.

Crowd (capturing the events on video with their smartphones): Allah Akbar.

ISIS commander: We have defeated the Americans and their allies…

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

ISIS commander: Allah willing, we will establish a state ruled by the Quran and the Sunna.

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

ISIS commander: All of you honorable Muslims are the soldiers of the Muslim State.

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

[…]

ISIS commander: Allah willing, you are Muslims. The Islamic State is as strong as the lions I see before me.

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

ISIS commander: …the shari’a of Allah, the Quran, and the Sunna. …Muslims in Baghdad…

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

ISIS commander: …Samaraa and Tikrit…

Crowd: Allah Akbar.

http://www.memritv.org

[Rojava]

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfKGrOdCAlc


http://youtu.be/4IemyNcswQ0?t=1m52s

Rest in pieces sons of a thousand whores.

1:50 what a hit. :lol: :lol:

[LightHouse89]

I hear many iraqi civilians are fleeing into kurdistan.

[LightHouse89]

That's why Vietcong raped your asses right?

Not really Vietnam had an actual professional standing army and assistance from two major nations China and Russia....so the war was impossible becauseo f that and the kiss ass policies my government was using. The only way to deal with such a war is to either pull out in the begining if you are losing or exterminate 50% of the population. We cannot do that because we belong to the UN which wont allow us to do that. If we didnt have rules we could have done what we wanted.

[gültekin]

[video=youtube_share;4IemyNcswQ0]
Rest in pieces sons of a thousand whores.

ur bitchs and nothing else, and you will stay forever a bitch. and we will hunt , catch and finaly fuck you down as always

[Rojava]

Not really Vietnam had an actual professional standing army and assistance from two major nations China and Russia....so the war was impossible becauseo f that and the kiss ass policies my government was using. The only way to deal with such a war is to either pull out in the begining if you are losing or exterminate 50% of the population. We cannot do that because we belong to the UN which wont allow us to do that. If we didnt have rules we could have done what we wanted.

Everyone knows of the massacres committed by US soldiers. They didn't follow any rules. The use of Napalm especially, the US didn't care what they hit as long as they hit.

[LightHouse89]

allah akba! LOL

[Rojava]

ur bitchs and nothing else, and you will stay forever a bitch. and we will hunt , catch and finaly fuck you down as always

You bastards have said that very same thing for more than 40 years. How about you go suck a dick, get a mouthful of cum and wake the fuck up?

[LightHouse89]

Everyone knows of the massacres committed by US soldiers. They didn't follow any rules. The use of Napalm especially, the US didn't care what they hit as long as they hit.

well war is war. civilians die....troops go rogue....you think russians and chinese are perfect? you think the north vietnamese were perfect? as soon as they took south vietnam and saigan they wiped out the entire intelligenista of South Vietnam. Not to mention other countless people. I have relatives who fought in that war and even they tell me it was a horror story and a giant cluster fuck of idiots.

[gültekin]

You bastards have said that very same thing for more than 40 years. How about you go suck a dick, get a mouthful of cum and wake the fuck up?
afraid u faggot? you'll fucked until you're a corpse ,a smelly worm food

[Scandalf]

well war is war. civilians die....troops go rogue....you think russians and chinese are perfect? you think the north vietnamese were perfect? as soon as they took south vietnam and saigan they wiped out the entire intelligenista of South Vietnam. Not to mention other countless people. I have relatives who fought in that war and even they tell me it was a horror story and a giant cluster fuck of idiots.

Fair enough. But I the US didn't win for political reasons. Russia was not backing the VC or the North Vietnamese at all! Plus, only the CIA got it right on intelligence gathering while the morons at the White House payed too much attention to the Armed Forces respective intelligence services. The VC were not fighting for Communism, they were fighting for Nationalism and to kick all foreigners out (other Asians included). It was simply impossible to win that war.

[StonyArabia]

Turkey and Iran should co-invade and annex it by religious lines. North/Sunni to Turkey, South/Shia to Iran.

Yes Sunni Arabs would want to be part of Turkey or even Shia Arabs want to be with Iran. This shows you how much you don't know about the politics of the region. Many Shia Arabs oppose Iranian influence in the region btw, especially the tribal leaders, not the people in the central government who are it's puppets. Not mention that this area would be very tribal with one Shia tribe opposing another Shia tribe, Iran would get headache not mention the strong separatist tendencies in Ahwaz largely Shia Arab region. Also many underestimate the tribal/ethnic factor in Iraq, that religion never trumps tribal and ethnic affiliation.

[Rojava]

afraid u faggot? you'll fucked until you're a corpse ,a smelly worm food

I thought you wanted my address? Come to Qandil, we are waiting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu07tDhKSXg

[gültekin]

I thought you wanted my address? Come to Qandil, we are waiting.

u faggot
ja ja show the worst videos of monkeys, but at the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj7B8BQxa4g
smelly worm foods

[Petros Houhoulis]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Misak-i_milli.png
Mosul and Kirkuk is Turkmen, and still in Misak-ı Milli borders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misak-%C4%B1_Mill%C3%AE

http://www.mappery.com/maps/Kurdistan-Kurd-Homeland-Map.gif

[gültekin]

.gif
Petros Adventures (representative)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6DFDXyKeA

[Rojava]

I am gay


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udTkgVTjxGI

HERNE PES! Man go fuck yourself xD :lol:

[Rojava]

Petros Adventures (representative)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6DFDXyKeA

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/man-rapes-duck-in-turkish-village-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=30133&NewsCatID=341

Man rapes duck in Turkish village

A man was detained in Bursa province in Turkey’s Marmara region for allegedly raping a duck, daily Habertürk reported.

Police forces detained the man following complaints from his inlaws, who claimed he had raped one of their ducks during an overnight stay in their house.

The man’s father-in-law said he found "feathers and blood" in a bed with the duck.

The duck was "unable to walk," according to the father-in-law. The man’s mother-in-law told daily Habertürk she later discovered the man’s bloody shirt by a tree the next morning.

The 50 year-old suspect denied all accusations, calling them all "slander."

The duck was found to have suffered deformation and damage to its intestines and underwent several operations. It is now reportedly in good condition and remains in a vetrenarian’s care.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/news/201209/n_30133_1.jpg

[StonyArabia]

http://www.mappery.com/maps/Kurdistan-Kurd-Homeland-Map.gif

I don't know if Kurdistan extend to the Arabian Gulf, though this probably one of the most accurate Kurdish maps, as it seems it does not extend to Mosul like most Kurdish maps. Since Mosul is largely a Sunni Arab province with minorities of Turkmens, Kurds, Shia Bedouins, and Assyrians. Though Kurds taking Kirkuk will be an interesting development, since Baghdad and Kurds are in dispute over it.

[Petros Houhoulis]

u faggot
ja ja show the worst videos of monkeys, but at the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj7B8BQxa4g
smelly worm foods

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/world/kurds-are-finally-heard-turkey-burned-our-villages.html


Kurds Are Finally Heard: Turkey Burned Our Villages

By DEXTER FILKINS
Published: October 24, 2003

One after another, the villagers stepped forward in their tattered clothes, took the courtroom oath and spoke of a previously unutterable crimes.
One of the first was Emine Toprak, an elderly Kurdish woman whose cracked and withered face hinted at her story to come.
''I was sitting in the house with my children, and they came and said we are going to burn your house, and so we got out,'' Ms. Toprak told a row of silk-robbed Turkish judges seated before her.
''Who burned your village?'' one of the Turkish judges asked.

''The government forces,'' Ms. Toprak answered.
So it was in a third-floor Turkish courtroom last week that a handful of Kurdish villagers broke the silence that has prevailed in this country over what human rights groups here say was one of the most violent secrets of the 1990's: the systematic campaign by Turkish security forces to burn down villages of Kurds suspected of harboring separatist guerrillas.
Turkish policy toward the Kurds has since become conciliatory. But the courtroom scene was a powerful reminder of how much bad history hangs over Turkish plans -- initially encouraged by the Bush administration -- to deploy troops in Iraq, where four to five million Kurds live in the northern part of the country.
Human rights groups here say Turkish security forces destroyed as many as 4,000 villages and hamlets and displaced hundreds of thousands of Kurds. The villages were burned during the ferocious war between the Turkish government and Kurdish rebels. More than 30,000 people died.
But until last week, according to Kurdish lawyers, the scorched-earth practices of the Turkish government were too sensitive a topic to speak about in Turkey itself. Claiming that Turkish forces had burned a Kurdish village, they said, was often tantamount to a death sentence.
Kurdish people who filed claims for their burned homes often disappeared, said Selhattin Demirtas, the chairman of the Human Rights Association of Diyarbakir, as did, sometimes, the lawyers themselves.
Nusret Miroglu, the governor of Diyarbakir, denied the accusations. ''The Turkish army does not burn villages -- this is a lie,'' he said ''We are a country of laws.''
''It is quite possible,'' Governor Miroglu continued, ''that the terrorists burned this village.'' He was referring to Kurdish rebels.
The climate between the Turks and Kurds has changed sharply in recent months, as the country's leaders have eagerly pushed for entry into the European Union. At the insistence of the Union, the Turkish government has enacted measures to expand the rights of its 14 million Kurds, who have long been denied the legal and cultural freedoms enjoyed by other Turkish citizens.
Since last year, the Turkish Parliament has passed laws allowing Kurdish parents to give their children Kurdish names, Kurdish teachers to hold classes on the Kurdish language, and Kurdish broadcasters to set up their own television station. Earlier this year, the government lifted emergency rule in the areas where it remained in the southeastern part of the country.
The changing relationship between the Turkish government and its Kurdish subjects was evident in the very fact that the court hearings took place. ''What you saw today could never have happened four years ago,'' Meral Bestas, a Kurdish lawyer, said after last week's court hearing. ''People were too afraid.''
But the new Turkish policy extends only so far. Despite the testimony of 20 villagers, each of whom told much the same story, the judge in the case, Mithat Ozcakmaktasi, ruled that more time was needed for a verdict.
The story, as recounted by the villagers, began on March 6, 1993. The troops of the Uzman Jandarma, a paramilitary force active in the region, entered Derecik at around midday and told the occupants of about half of the village to leave their homes immediately.
Once the villagers had filed out, the troops began pouring what some villagers described as a flammable powder, perhaps phosphorous, onto the wooden roofs and furniture inside.
''The men from the Jandarma came to my house and told me to get out,'' Omer Fidan, a 56-year-old fruit farmer, told the judges.
Someone struck a match, he said, and 28 homes went up in flames.
Mr. Fidan, a proud but haggard-looking man, said he managed to gather a few of his sheep before his home disappeared in the flames. Then he piled his wife and 10 children into a flatbed truck and drove them toward a new life in Diyarbakir.
''I would not wish on anyone what I went through that day,'' Mr. Fidan said in a quiet moment after the court hearing.
By many accounts here, burning villages was part of a Turkish strategy to deprive the rebels of sanctuary. It was true, Mr. Fidan said, that Derecik's villagers often gave food to the guerrillas when they came through.
Two years ago, a Turkish parliamentary commission concluded that more than 3,000 villages had been destroyed and some 378,000 people displaced. But the commission reached no conclusions about who had set the villages afire.
It is still not easy to uncover the details of what happened in Derecik, situated 50 miles northeast of Diyarbakir, as it remains closed to outsiders. An American reporter who tried to go there last week was detained at a military checkpoint, ordered to turn around and followed for several miles by Turkish intelligence agents.
Along the way, wreckage abounded from the war that once raged. On the roadside, some 30 miles outside Diyarbakir, stood the remains of what had once been a small village: piles of old bricks, charred wood and a few pieces of rusty furniture.
A road sign, still standing, announced its name: Angul.
''The military came and said get out, and we got out, and then they threw some powder onto the house, and suddenly we saw that our house was on fire,'' said Cicek Dagtas, a native of Angul.
Ms. Dagtas and her husband, Hussein, now make up Angul's entire population. After living a decade in an apartment in Diyarbakir, they returned two months ago to start again. They were found on a roof of the village school, one of two intact buildings, trying to repair the roof.
''We couldn't stand the life in the city, and we decided to come back,'' Mr. Dagtas said.
Not far away stands the remains of Fis Restaurant, the very place where, in 1978, Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the main Kurdish guerrilla group, called his first meeting. The restaurant is closed now, its walls blackened and charred.
Mr. Ocalan himself was captured in 1999, and since then, his group, the Kurdish Workers' Party, has drastically scaled back its operations.
It was only through great persistence that Mr. Fidan, the Derecik fruit farmer, and the others were able to tell their story at all. Consumed by his loss, Mr. Fidan reported the torching to the police and, waving away warnings from friends, demanded compensation. He got nowhere. Eight years later, he said, he decided to sue the government.
The suit, taken up by the president of the Diyarbakir Bar Association and three other lawyers, led to countercharges from prosecutors that the lawyers had made up the story. The prosecutors charged each of them with abusing their legal responsibilities, a felony under Turkish law.
''The villages in the province were not set on fire and destroyed by the security forces,'' the government's indictment read.
Sezgin Tanrikulu, the president of the bar association, said he was not surprised. Detained several times by the security forces himself, Mr. Tanrikulu said he planned to call witnesses like Mr. Fidan to contest the government's charges.
And so the villagers, one by one, took the stand.
When it was over, Judge Ozcakmaktasi said he would hold another hearing on Dec. 4, possibly to make a decision.
''I have been a very patient man,'' Mr. Fidan said.
Photos: Not much remains of the Kurdish village of Angul, Turkey, which was burned a decade ago during the war between the government and Kurdish rebels. Omer Fidan, at left with part of his family, testified in a Turkish court last week about the burning of his village, Derecik. (Photographs by Muzaffer Duru for The New York Times) Map of Turkey highlighting Derecik.

[gültekin]

im the biggest slut and cock sucker, i like blow up the Turkish cocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHcTp_g5BGA

[Petros Houhoulis]

Petros Adventures (representative)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6DFDXyKeA

The guy is an Albanian, pretending to be Greek. His comprehention of Greek though is poor, and it becomes apparent that Greek is not his mother tongue...

[Rojava]

I don't know if Kurdistan extend to the Arabian Gulf, though this probably one of the most accurate Kurdish maps, as it seems it does not extend to Mosul like most Kurdish maps. Since Mosul is largely a Sunni Arab province with minorities of Turkmens, Kurds, Shia Bedouins, and Assyrians. Though Kurds taking Kirkuk will be an interesting development, since Baghdad and Kurds are in dispute over it.

It doesn't. But I think the aim of that map was to include Luris of Iran who about 50 or so years ago all considered themselves Kurds. The only Luris who consider themselves as Kurds today are called Feilis. This map includes all the Kurdish clans:

http://www.kurdishacademy.org/sites/default/files/images/tribes_and_clans_2006.preview.jpg

Google maps came up with this:

http://karakocan.info/tr/images/stories/haber/basinyayin/kurdistan-google.jpg

[Diërker]

VIVA LA REVOLUTION. Call to arms for a united Syria!!

[Petros Houhoulis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHcTp_g5BGA

It is a retards' staple to fake youtube videos, and then quote them as a "source"...

[Rojava]

VIVA LA REVOLUTION. Call to arms for a united Syria!!

Under the leadership of Jabhat Al Akrad... YEAAHH!!!

[Rojava]

It is a retards' staple to fake youtube videos, and then quote them as a "source"...

I already told him that. But he's too stubborn and "proud" to understand. Kemalists like Gultekin are equivalent to people in North Korea. Seriously. Brainwashed and all...

[Diërker]

Under the leadership of Jabhat Al Akrad... YEAAHH!!!

Exactly, we must secure the existence of the Syrian people within Syria through any means necessary.

[Yaroslav]

Yes Sunni Arabs would want to be part of Turkey or even Shia Arabs want to be with Iran. This shows you how much you don't know about the politics of the region. Many Shia Arabs oppose Iranian influence in the region btw, especially the tribal leaders, not the people in the central government who are it's puppets. Not mention that this area would be very tribal with one Shia tribe opposing another Shia tribe, Iran would get headache not mention the strong separatist tendencies in Ahwaz largely Shia Arab region. Also many underestimate the tribal/ethnic factor in Iraq, that religion never trumps tribal and ethnic affiliation.

I never said the people want to, I am anti-democracy so I could careless what the people want.

[gültekin]

It is a retards' staple to fake youtube videos, and then quote them as a "source"...
hahahahahahaha u foolish faggot, that is not fake u moron. this video is made by pkk bitches they crying and asking for help. go and join you too to this monkeys , help them if you have ball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHcTp_g5BGA

[gültekin]

Under the leadership of Jabhat Al Akrad... YEAAHH!!!
siktir götveren,
http://s12.postimg.org/aycfcpie5/erik.jpg

[StonyArabia]

I never said the people want to, I am anti-democracy so I could careless what the people want.

Yeah but still it will not go as you stated. Like I have said ethnic and tribal affiliations trump religion every time. I am sure Sunni Arabs would love to be part of Turkey or a Shia Arabs would love to be with Iran. When I told you that Ahwazi Arabs are anti-Iranian, and see no commonality with Iranians despite being Shias, and want out right independence.

[Rojava]

Insulting Ocalan does not offend me lol I do not follow his ideology :lol: nice try but I don't give a shit xD

[gültekin]

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1383600/izzat-ibrahim-al-douri.jpg?w=720&h=473&l=50&t=40

The Sunni insurgency that is storming Iraq towards the capital Baghdad reportedly includes Baathist military officers from the era of Saddam Hussein's regime.

A former top military commander and vice president in the Hussein government, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, has joined forces with the jihadists of the Isis (The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) with the aim of overthrowing the Shiite-majority government of prime minister Nouri al-Maliki.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iraq-crisis-saddam-husseins-generals-fighting-jihadist-isis-insurgency-1452365

one of the most wanted members of Saddam's regime ,has not yet been caught !?. iraqi army does not strike them back.. well well ,what a lovely puppet theater
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/19/1226600/657205-130319-izzat-ibrahim-al-duri.jpg

[EyeOfTheTiger]

why hadnt turkey attacked them yet?
i know iran sent troops from the revolution guards, but what about turkey? 15% of its oil from iraq got fucked up.

[Annihilus]

Yeah but still it will not go as you stated. Like I have said ethnic and tribal affiliations trump religion every time. I am sure Sunni Arabs would love to be part of Turkey or a Shia Arabs would love to be with Iran. When I told you that Ahwazi Arabs are anti-Iranian, and see no commonality with Iranians despite being Shias, and want out right independence.

Impossible arabs can never be part of Turkey.

[Rojava]

why hadnt turkey attacked them yet?
i know iran sent troops from the revolution guards, but what about turkey? 15% of its oil from iraq got fucked up.

Not really. Oil rich areas are now under Kurdish control. This is beneficial to Turkey because of the new oil pipes.

[EyeOfTheTiger]

Not really. Oil rich areas are now under Kurdish control. This is beneficial to Turkey because of the new oil pipes.
which areas? like kirkuk?
i know that cities under ISIS rule are full of oil.

[Azamat]

The Turkish diplomats now kidnapped were offered a safe evacuation out of Mosul(either by IA units or Peshmerga, unsure), which they turned down. Now that the diplomats have been kidnapped, Turkey has obtained a motive to use military force against ISIS and thus conveniently send troops into Kurdish territory as part of that(and indeed, Turkish officials have already promised to take "drastic measures" as a last resort: http://en.apa.az/xeber_cemil_cicek_____turkey_will_take_drastic_m_2 12620.html).

This smells of a ploy.

[StonyArabia]

Impossible arabs can never be part of Turkey.

They already are, in some regions. Though the Arabs in Mosul will never want to be part of Turkey, and this is a fact that I was replaying to Yaroslav who clearly does not understand the political situation there. Although Turkey has always wanted to annex Mosul to it. One guy even claimed that was a Turkmen city and this not true at all, the only true Turkmen city was Kirkuk which is now under control of the Kurds at least for the mean time. The Sunni Arabs were not brought to the North but are native to the North, but the former government did full Kirkuk with Shia Bedouins from the South of Iraq and even brought them to Mosul as blockade against Kurdish expansion.

[Rojava]

which areas? like kirkuk?
i know that cities under ISIS rule are full of oil.

Kirkuk is fully under Kurdish control. The only part where ISIS has some sort of control is probably Hawija but I think they got kicked out from there too.

[Azamat]

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1383600/izzat-ibrahim-al-douri.jpg?w=720&h=473&l=50&t=40

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iraq-crisis-saddam-husseins-generals-fighting-jihadist-isis-insurgency-1452365

one of the most wanted members of Saddam's regime ,has not yet been caught !?. iraqi army does not strike them back.. well well ,what a lovely puppet theater
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/19/1226600/657205-130319-izzat-ibrahim-al-duri.jpgIzzat al-Douri is a very sick man, has been suffering from cancer from a long time(just look at his appearance). I'm skeptical of his ability to act as a 'commander' for ISIS.