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Pallantides
02-06-2010, 06:50 PM
Peter Jansen Wessel (alt. spelling Peder), better known as Tordenskjold (lit. "thundershield"), but also known as Peter Wessel, Peter Tordenskjold, or Peter Tordenskiold, (October 28, 1691-November 12, 1720), was an eminent Norwegian naval officer in the service of the King of Denmark-Norway. He rose to the rank of Vice-Admiral in the Royal Dano-Norwegian Navy for his services in the Great Northern War. In Denmark as well as in Norway he is probably considered the most famous naval hero. An unusually successful rise in rank considering he died when he was only 29 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tordenskjold

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Tordenskiold.jpg

Agrippa
02-06-2010, 07:10 PM
Such paintings dont give too much away, but going after what can be seen and considering his background, I'd say he's mostly Atlanto-Nordid/Nordid with Cromagno-Alpinoid influences.

Neanderthal
02-06-2010, 11:06 PM
Such paintings dont give too much away, but going after what can be seen and considering his background, I'd say he's mostly Atlanto-Nordid/Nordid with Cromagno-Alpinoid influences.

Exactly, I think I see some hits of Dinarization too (nose).

Agrippa
02-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Exactly, I think I see some hits of Dinarization too (nose).

I saw rather convex nasal forms quite often among Nordoids, it seems to be just one extreme of their variation and at least must not be always Dinaroid influence - but rather pointing to the "Irano-Nordoid relations". Even more so among Eastnordids of course.

Norwegian Nordoid with at least pseudo-Orientalid/pseudo-Semitic facial traits:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3042&d=1256341333

There exist Arabids with Nordoid morphology too, this could be overlapping individual variation...

Loki
02-07-2010, 02:08 PM
I saw rather convex nasal forms quite often among Nordoids,




http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3042&d=1256341333


... or perhaps it could just point to less of an East-Baltid influence (i.e. short, upturned nose common in areas like Finland and also Sweden).

The earliest known body of a Germanic man, the Tollund Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tollund_Man), seems to have had a convex nose. And he was found within the epicentre of early Germanicdom.

Agrippa
02-07-2010, 02:27 PM
Whats known for sure is that convex noses are more common among all Nordid types in the narrower sense than concave ones and relations to the rest of the leptodolichomorphic spectrum in and outside of Europe might be debatable for various times. Convex noses are from what we know part of the constitutive forms of the Nordid racial type - minority in comparison to straight and wavy, but a significant one.

National_Nord
02-10-2010, 11:15 PM
Dinarid

Smeagol
10-29-2013, 01:56 AM
Atlanto-Nordid/Nordid + Cromagnid.