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gültekin
06-17-2014, 12:06 AM
The Armenian Revolt (1894 - 1920)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHea26RDAY

This video tells the other side of the story much ignored in the West: Armenian terrorism,insurgency, revolts, treason, territorial demands and the Turkish and other Muslim losses suffered at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries. The Armenian lobby can no longer hide behind "denier" accusations after The European Court of Human Rights issued its verdict in Perincek vs Switzerland that events of 1915 cannot be classified as genocide. Mutual suffering, shared pain, and fiar memory are the operative words here. Watch this excellent film to learn more

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 08:01 AM
While this video does't address the Opening Post video directly, it clearly debunks the Opening Post. It's a 4 Part Video, which has provided numerous eyewitness accounts, with translated subtitles. It's better to enlarge the screen, especially because the translated subtitles are difficult to read.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiTyA2mChkg

Armenian Genocide Video (Part 1 of 4). Video Summary: Published on Feb 22, 2012

The Armenian Genocide—also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and, by Armenians, as the Great Crime—refers to the deliberate and systematic destruction of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I. It was implemented through wholesale massacres and deportations, with the deportations consisting of forced marches under conditions designed to lead to the death of the deportees. The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been between 1 million and 1.5 million. Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Ottoman Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider those events to be part of the same policy of extermination.

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 08:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eKa_l4Q0l0

Armenian Genocide Video (Part 2 of 4).

YouTube Video Summary: Published on Feb 22, 2012

The Armenian Genocide—also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and, by Armenians, as the Great Crime—refers to the deliberate and systematic destruction of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I. It was implemented through wholesale massacres and deportations, with the deportations consisting of forced marches under conditions designed to lead to the death of the deportees. The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been between 1 million and 1.5 million. Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Ottoman Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider those events to be part of the same policy of extermination.

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 08:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vggVkbQZ2Ys

Armenian Genocide Video (Part 3 of 4). Video Summary: Published on Feb 22, 2012

[I]The Armenian Genocide—also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and, by Armenians, as the Great Crime—refers to the deliberate and systematic destruction of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I. It was implemented through wholesale massacres and deportations, with the deportations consisting of forced marches under conditions designed to lead to the death of the deportees. The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been between 1 million and 1.5 million. Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Ottoman Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider those events to be part of the same policy of extermination.

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 08:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSuEeSW0Fys

Armenian Genocide Video (Part 4 of 4). Published on Aug 20, 2011

The Armenian Genocide—also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and, by Armenians, as the Great Crime—refers to the deliberate and systematic destruction of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I. It was implemented through wholesale massacres and deportations, with the deportations consisting of forced marches under conditions designed to lead to the death of the deportees. The total number of resulting Armenian deaths is generally held to have been between 1 million and 1.5 million. Other ethnic groups were similarly attacked by the Ottoman Empire during this period, including Assyrians and Greeks, and some scholars consider those events to be part of the same policy of extermination.

mikhail
07-26-2014, 09:02 AM
The ottoman Turks were well known to massacre innocents in all Christian territories of the Ottoman Empire. The Turks refuse to take responsibility for the fact that their ancestors were a bunch of genocidal rapists.

gültekin
07-26-2014, 09:19 AM
Enough with lies, now the truth.
real documents, real victims, real witnesses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2FFYTf-3ho

gültekin
07-26-2014, 09:21 AM
the reality about the armenian bestiality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2OFKdfslk

gültekin
07-26-2014, 09:25 AM
The Evidence of the armenian bestiality. they are not human

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qForZRFT9M

Scholarios
07-26-2014, 09:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QQXDp0jsKM

The 5 Founding Myths of Turkey, by Turkish scholar Taner Akcam. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taner_Ak%C3%A7am)

gültekin
07-26-2014, 09:31 AM
You can now continue to say your nonsenses.

Scholarios
07-26-2014, 09:46 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/AmbassadorMorgenthautelegram.jpg

mikhail
07-26-2014, 09:48 AM
Enough with lies, now the truth.
real documents, real victims, real witnesses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2FFYTf-3ho

Why do Turks love killing innocent people and then claiming that the Turks were the victim? Turks can only fight women and children, Turks run away from real men.

Soon turkish Kurdistan will be free from the Turks, 25% of the turkish population is Kurdish, and the Kurds are a rising power.

The Kurds are the last victims of the ottomans.

gültekin
07-26-2014, 10:19 AM
Why do Turks love killing innocent people and then claiming that the Turks were the victim? Turks can only fight women and children, Turks run away from real men.

Soon turkish Kurdistan will be free from the Turks, 25% of the turkish population is Kurdish, and the Kurds are a rising power.

The Kurds are the last victims of the ottomans.
we running away? :D
you Ataka hero, go and destroy some graves, that's what your "honorable" mates can do

mikhail
07-26-2014, 11:20 AM
we running away? :D
you Ataka hero, go and destroy some graves, that's what your "honorable" mates can do

The worst bulgarian is better than the best Turk, Bulgarians fight like men, Turks fight like war criminals.

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 06:42 PM
Why do Turks love killing innocent people and then claiming that the Turks were the victim? Turks can only fight women and children, Turks run away from real men.

Soon turkish Kurdistan will be free from the Turks, 25% of the turkish population is Kurdish, and the Kurds are a rising power.

The Kurds are the last victims of the ottomans.

Based upon anecdotal evidence, eyewitness accounts, photographic evidence, and communication dispatches from the killers themselves, I'd say that you have good reason to condemn Turks, for a legacy of taking pleasure in murdering innocent victims. It's a historical fact that some Turks, bearing arms, have turned their weapons upon defenseless women and children, yet such people weren't so brave when fighting armed combatants who could shoot back.

Turkish claims of suffering victimization, at the hands of Armenians, are usually products of fakery and lies, which are peddled around the world, and used to spam the Internet with falsehoods. Propaganda Craftsmen, who produce this kind of thick baloney, are hardcore denialists, guilty of abetting the original perpetrators. One aspect of their strategy for denying the facts of the Armenian Genocide, is to blame the murder victims for imaginary crimes, so as to slander them. After all, murder victims cannot protest against slander, when their bones are somewhere bleaching in the Syrian Desert.


we running away? :D
you Ataka hero, go and destroy some graves, that's what your "honorable" mates can do

Don't throw rocks from your glass houses! There's plenty of documentary evidence which proves that it was a Turkish State Policy to destroy Armenian Cultural Landmarks in Western Armenia (AKA Eastern Turkey).

Also, Azeri-Turkish blood brothers of the Turks have done exactly that, Azeri military personnel have been documented less than 10 years ago, on video, destroying thousands of Armenian cemetery crosses with sledge hammers. Case in point is the Julfa Armenian Cemetery, where more than 10,000 Armenian Khatchkars (Crosses) were pounded into refuse, to make way for a target practice shooting gallery, and an Azeri-Turkish Military Base in Nakhichevan.


The worst bulgarian is better than the best Turk, Bulgarians fight like men, Turks fight like war criminals.

Very True! The worst element of Bulgarians is better than the Turkish War Criminals who perpetrated genocide, in 1915. And, the work of Armenian Genocide Denial links those who orchestrate it to the original perpetrators of the murder crime, because it serves to abet them, and hide their trail of guilt.

Armenian Bishop
07-26-2014, 07:00 PM
we running away? :D
you Ataka hero, go and destroy some graves, that's what your "honorable" mates can do

The destruction of the Julfa Armenian Cemetery was completed by 2006, with the completion of an Azeri-Turkish Military Base and shooting gallery, on the grounds of the cemetery. Enthusiastic, hard working, Azeri-Turkish military personnel have been photographed, in videos, pounding Armenian cemetery stones into rubble, with sledgehammers. More than 10,000 Armenian Khatchkars (Crosses) were destroyed, so as to erase the very presence of Armenians, in the Azeri-Turkish Nachichevan enclave, an area which was historically linked to the Armenian Highlands.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispMSktZNyg

Misak-i Milli
07-28-2014, 10:00 AM
Turkish claims of suffering victimization, at the hands of Armenians, are usually products of fakery and lies, which are peddled around the world, and used to spam the Internet with falsehoods.

- During Crimea War, Armenians of Van wrote a letter to the Tsar and demanded annexation to Russia. ( 1872 )
- Hinchak Party organized a rebellion in Zeitun. 20.000 Muslim Turks were slaughtered. ( 1895 )
- Armenians with weapons filled the streets of Istanbul. Turks retaliated and clashes lasted for three days. This event is also known as The Sublime Porte incident. ( 1895 )
- Almost 1 year before the relocation law was issued, Tashnak Party published a manifesto after the congress they gathered in Tblisi and declared that they were ready to sacrifice their blood for Russian victory. ( 1914 )
- Armenian revolt in Van began. Until Russian Army and Armenian volunteer regiments arrived to the city, 30.000 Muslim Turks were slaughtered by Dashnaks guerillas in just 1 month. ( April 14th, 1914 )

- These Armenian volunteers, in order to avenge their compatriots who had been massacred by the Kurds, committed all kinds of excesses. More than 600.000 Kurds being killed between 1915-1918 in the eastern provinces of Turkey.
( The Kurds, Oxford University Press, 1966, Page 26 )

- We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide inflicted upon 2.5 million Ottoman Muslims between 1914-1920.
( Voices of Agonies, Agop Zahoryan, London Re-print, 1954, Page 91 )

- In history, it happened to the Muslims of Russian Armenia and Eastern Anatolia. 2.5 million Muslims were killed by the Armenians in the worst possible way imaginable. It is sickening to think that the human race is capable of such actions but there is no denying the fact that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims happened. The Armenian General Dro, the butcher, was the architect of this Armenian genocide of Muslims between 1914-1920.
( Armenian Affairs Magazine, Winter Issue, 1949-50, Page 19, Footnote, Arthur Derounian )

- All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation.
( Hamparsum Boyaciyan nicknamed Murad, a former Ottoman parliamentary who led the Armenian guerilla forces ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914 )

- Armenian Terrorism in Tashnak Report

The commander of Tashnak Bas-Gyarninsk regiment, Lieutenant Colonel Melik Sahnazarov states that they bombed all villages in the region, they captured 30 Turkish villages and asks for permission to bomb the remaining 29 villages in a report with urgent seal on it written on 7th of November, 1918.
( Beyazit-Vaaram, 1920 )

We exterminated the Turkish population in Basar-Gecar with no exception. Not to waste our bullets, the most effective method against these dogs, is to gather the ones who survived the clashes and throw them into the wells and crush them with heavy rocks. So, we did the same. We gathered all the men, women and children. I ended their lives personaly by crushing them with heavy rocks from above in the wells which they were thrown into.
( This document was published by Armenian-Soviet historian Lalayan, Revolyutsionniy Vostok Magazine, 2nd and 3rd edition, 1936 and History Institute of USSR Science Academy's Istroriceskie Zapiski Magazine, 2nd edition, 1938 )

- In Soviet Armenia today, there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.
( Sahak Melkonian, Preserving The Armenian Purity, 1920 )


It's a historical fact that some Turks, bearing arms, have turned their weapons upon defenseless women and children, yet such people weren't so brave when fighting armed combatants who could shoot back.

- The most important official document indicating the Armenian Armed movements before World War 1 is the 1910 speech given by the Armenian Revolutionary Federation ideologist Mikail Varangian in Copenhagen during the 2nd Socialist International. The report shows that the Tashnak Party had organized and formed armed regiments in formation of gangs in almost every city of Anatolia by adopting a terrorist movement. The original version of this report is in Belvedere archives.

http://i.imgur.com/kMVgrcQ.jpg


After all, murder victims cannot protest against slander, when their bones are somewhere bleaching in the Syrian Desert.

- As suggested in 60 Minutes of CBS, which aired a program called Battle Over History on Sunday. Deir Zor is to Armenians what Auschwitz is to Jews, said the CBS program. Syrian Information Minister Mohsen Bilal denied that there is a mass grave of Anatolian Armenians in Deir Zor, Syria. Bilal labeled the information of the CBS program as fictitious and also said that if they had information, they would not let video footage to be taken there.
( 2010/03/04 )


Don't throw rocks from your glass houses! There's plenty of documentary evidence which proves that it was a Turkish State Policy to destroy Armenian Cultural Landmarks in Western Armenia (AKA Eastern Turkey).

There is no such thing called Western Armenia. There was never an independent Armenian state or an empire in Caucasus in the last 1500 years.

- The geographical region was named Great Armenia not because it is “great”, but because it is “greater” than Little Armenia. In fact, no early source confirms the existence of any state named Great Armenia in the history. No archaeological excavation has ever discovered Great Armenia-engraved coins. The coins minted by the Parthian Tigranes II claimed by the Armenians do not confirm him as ruler of Great Armenia either. Great Armenia is not historical truth, but an infamous “national ideology”, reactionary, religious, terrorist and aggressive “doctrine” aimed at occupying foreign territories for nomadic Armenians, who had never owned their own lands.
( Bunak V.V, Grande Armenie, M, 1927, Page 26 )


One aspect of their strategy for denying the facts of the Armenian Genocide, is to blame the murder victims for imaginary crimes, so as to slander them.

As a typical Armenian, almost everything you posted above are lies, distortions and falsifications. The usual Armenian method of self-victimization, self-pitty and demonizing Turks with fancy, long sentences and humanity lectures which have barely any sort of evidence or facts in them. Why dont you prove how my post is a lie with archive documents and facts then? Why dont you post where those mass graves in Deir Zor are? It is ironic that you try to label others with what Armenians are best doing at which is slander and propaganda. Armenians are equally brainwashed no matter what their gender and age is. Pretty sad and pathetic to have an identity which was built on lies and hate. Grandmother tales, urban legends, horror stories and lots of monuments for the imaginary 1.5 million victims of a fabricated historical event.

turkojew
08-03-2014, 09:29 AM
After my long-lasting research, my final thought is that the Turks killed 1,5 - 1 million Armenians and Armenians(including small Greek mobs) killed 100 - 200 thousand Turks.

Hayalet
08-03-2014, 09:59 AM
After my long-lasting research, my final thought is that the Turks killed 1,5 - 1 million Armenians and Armenians(including small Greek mobs) killed 100 - 200 thousand Turks.
Thanks, professor.

turkojew
08-03-2014, 11:38 AM
Thanks, professor.

U're welcome faşo :)

Instinct
08-03-2014, 05:22 PM
Well, I can't imagine how many christians were killed in Anatolia. Ottoman Empire killed many Alevis also because of religion difference...

There is always an excuse to not to say sorry: "Alevis supported Shah Ismael so Yavuz Selim was right to kill many Alevis in Anatolia, Armenians supported Russian Empire so Ottoman Empire was right to kill them, Assyrians were Christian, etc."

Just try to look in a different perspective. Why? then you won't do this biggest fault again, you won't kill christians, alevis, etc.