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ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 05:40 AM
As we all know that Finns have 60% haplogroup N and Japanese have 38% D (both on average)


However and mtDNA Finns also have 1.2 - 2% East Eurasian mtDNA and Japanese have 17% Jomon mtDNA.

But what matters most is autosomal DNA.


( The colors are roughly the same )


Mongoloid components in this chart

Yellow= East Asian Mongoloid
Dark blue = Siberian Mongoloid
Green = South east Asian Mongoloid

Caucasoid Component in this chart

Purple = South European/Mediterranean Caucasoid
Light blue = North European Caucasoid
Light brown = West Asian Caucasoid




http://oi58.tinypic.com/30cbwgg.jpg



http://oi59.tinypic.com/mh9k5i.jpg

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 05:42 AM
However I do believe Japanese have 13 - 20% Jomon blood even though it doesn't show it the chart

( Note: I said this many before this is because Ainu/Jomon are freaking in fact proto-mongoloid only their traits didn't evolved like into " Neoteny " like the Koreans, some would call it deformed Mongoloid but DNA are still the same).

Where as Finns have only 5 - 12 % Mongoloid DNA showing on their autosomal which came from Siberian western Uralic men who were part Mongoloid / part Caucasians.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 05:52 AM
Keep in mind the Dark blue siberian components are strongest in East Siberian Mongoloid tribes who all carries high frequencies of N from 70 - 97% ( although Dolgans have much less sometimes 40% other times 55% )

http://oi58.tinypic.com/rclil1.jpg

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 06:04 AM
Haplogroup D2 is

88% in Ainu
56% in Okinawans
38% in Honshu Japanese
27% in Kyushu Japanese

http://heritageofjapan.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/mtdna-yap-haplogroups1.png?w=500



Haplogroup N is



95% in Ngannasans
90% in Yakuts
77% in Nenets
65% in Finns
55% in Dolgans
34% in Estonians


http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/NganasansY_DNA.gif
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/SakhaY_DNA.gif
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/NenetsY_DNA.gif
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/DolgansY_DNA.gif

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 06:21 AM
Even though they are in small proportion is still enough to pop out occasionally in some individuals

Finns

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1390/08/1390080846599.png
http://i.imgur.com/3oPV8.png


Abe hiroshi

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hiroshi+Abe+Thermae+Romae+Premiere+Arrivals+V2tBSG Uh2azl.jpg

Lemminkäinen
06-27-2014, 06:29 AM
As we all know that Finns have 60% haplogroup N and Japanese have 38% D (both on average)




Regarding the ydna homogeneity the Welshmen and Scots are almost 100% R1b. So they are genetically the most homogeneous Europeans. Genetic homogeneity usually means inbred.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 06:31 AM
However I do believe Japanese have 13 - 20% Jomon blood even though it doesn't show it the chart

Japanese do not have any Jomon MTDNA.


( Note: I said this many before this is because Ainu/Jomon are freaking in fact proto-mongoloid only their traits didn't evolved like into " Neoteny " like the Koreans, some would call it deformed Mongoloid but DNA are still the same).

There is no such thing as a proto-mongoloid, "freaking", in fact. Neotenic types are deformed, mutated freaks. Ainu are the normal, Original strain of humanity.


Where as Finns have only 5 - 12 % Mongoloid DNA showing on their autosomal which came from Siberian western Uralic men who were part Mongoloid / part Caucasians.

Mongoloid DNA in Scandinavians stems from an earlier population event (+20,000 YBP) and has nothing to do with recent admixtures with Mongoloids (which did not occur).

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 06:38 AM
Abe Hiroshi looks 100% Yayoi Japanese.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 06:40 AM
Japanese do not have any Jomon MTDNA.
N9b and M7a is the most predominate and found in all 3 Jomon groups sampled.

Haplogroup M7a being the oldest followed by N9b


M7a

1) 7.9%
2) 34%
3) 3.7%

N9b

1) 68.3%
2) 60.1%
3) 13%


3 Jomon groups mtDNA
http://i49.tinypic.com/wtjddy.jpg


Japanese mtDNA

http://i46.tinypic.com/119nxhz.jpg

Another group of Jomon also had 13.5% of M7a and 10% of N9b but over 20% of M8 and and M10

Jomon mtDNA (N9b and M7a) in Japanese provinces

http://i49.tinypic.com/307t177.jpg


For Japanese

Jomon Y-DNA 36%
Jomon mtDNA 14%

For Okinawans

Jomon Y-DNA 60.2%
Jomon mtDNA 30%




There is no such thing as a proto-mongoloid, "freaking", in fact. Neotenic types are deformed, mutated freaks. Ainu are the normal, Original strain of humanity.


Of course there is. Where did you think people with korean features just popped out from? without proto-mongoloid there be no neo-mongoloid.




Mongoloid DNA in Scandinavians stems from an earlier population event (+20,000 YBP) and has nothing to do with recent admixtures with Mongoloids (which did not occur).

Racial antrhopology shows there was mongoloid and caucasoid intermixing in 2500 BC in western siberia, and the western uralics are mongoloid and caucasoid admixture.


The fact that Finns shows so much Mongoloid DNA shows that is recently spread thousand years ago.



Haplogroup N originated from Siberia and spread to Europe.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 06:47 AM
However it seems the the Japanese seems to have mixed with a different Jomon DNA group from North Japan, rather than Jomon group from Hokkaido. The Jomon group of Honshu Japanese had 50% M7a, with 15% N9b and other every other bits of haplogroup A, B, C, D, M



Hokkaiddo Jomon are predominated by N9b rather than M7a where are those jomon from mainland Japan (north Japan ) and Okinawans are M7a than N9b

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 06:57 AM
N9b and M7a is the most predominate and found in all 3 Jomon groups sampled.

Haplogroup M7a being the oldest followed by N9b


M7a

1) 7.9%
2) 36%
3) 3.7%

N9b

1) 68.3%
2) 60.1%
3) 13%



Another group of Jomon also had 13.5% of M7a and 10% of N9b but over 20% of M8 and and M10

Jomon mtDNA (N9b and M7a) in Japanese provinces




For Japanese

Jomon Y-DNA 36%
Jomon mtDNA 14%

For Okinawans

Jomon Y-DNA 60.2%
Jomon mtDNA 30%


Haplogroups are proteins not DNA, you do not know what any of these terms mean, there is no Jomon MTDNA in modern Japanese, no Jomon skeletons have ever been tested for DNA, Japanese do not have the technology to take DNA samples from ancient skeletons.

Nihonjinron is not an acceptable source, and photographs are not a substitute for written language.





Of course there is. Where did you think people with korean features just popped out from? without proto-mongoloid there be no neo-mongoloid.

"Proto-Mongoloid" (Caucasoid) features are nearly totally the opposite of "neo-Mongoloid." "Proto-Mongoloid" is broad jawed, short oribts, prominent nose, hollowed cheekbones, long vaulted, big brow ridge. Neo Mongoloid is flat, pan face, tall orbits, flat nose, winged incisors, short vaulted. Proto-Mongoloid is just a term for Japanese and other east Asians to save face for the fact that they are not normal humans, and have no natural human ancestors, but mutated freaks.





Racial antrhopology shows there was mongoloid and caucasoid intermixing in 2500 BC in western siberia, and the western uralics are mongoloid and caucasoid admixture.

No, it does not.



The fact that Finns shows so much Mongoloid DNA shows that is recently spread thousand years ago.

First you say Finns show little Mongoloid DNA.

Now, you say they have so much Mongoloid DNA.

Well, make up your mind. Or just accept the reality that it's paleolithic shared-ancestor DNA and not recent Mongoloid DNA. It's not even Mongoloid DNA.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 07:13 AM
Haplogroups are proteins not DNA, there is no Jomon MTDNA in modern Japanese, no Jomon skeletons have ever been tested for DNA, Japanese do not have the technology to take DNA samples from ancient skeletons.

Nihonjinron is not an acceptable source, and photographs are not a substitute for written language.

Listen, you're obviously ignorant and lack genetic data to know what you're talking about. At least search for the data so I don't have to keep posting it again and again. ( because people like you clearly aren't convinced unless I show you )

Jomon mtDNA study.


" Studies published in 2004 and 2007 show the combined frequency of M7a and N9b which are believed by some to be pre-jomon maternal markers to be at least 28% in Okinawans (7/50 M7a1, 6/50 M7a(xM7a1), 1/50 N9b), 17.6% in Ainus (8/51 M7a(xM7a1), 1/51 N9b), and 10% (97/1312 M7a(xM7a1), 1/1312 M7a1, 28/1312 N9b) to 17% (15/100 M7a1, 2/100 M7a(xM7a1)) in mainstream Japanese.[53][54] "

Source. M. Tanaka, V. M. Cabrera, A. M. González et al. (2004), "Mitochondrial Genome Variation in Eastern Asia and the Peopling of Japan" [3]








"Proto-Mongoloid" (Caucasoid) features are nearly totally the opposite of "neo-Mongoloid." "Proto-Mongoloid" is broad jawed, short oribts, prominent nose, hollowed cheekbones, long vaulted, big brow ridge. Neo Mongoloid is flat, pan face, tall orbits, flat nose, winged incisors, short vaulted. Proto-Mongoloid is just a term for Japanese and other east Asians to save face for the fact that they are not normal humans, and have no natural human ancestors, but mutated freaks.

All great the same caucasoid claim.


Why don't you claim polynesians, or some albino dravidian, south indian veddas, or even australian aborigines as Caucasoid ? since anthopology have concluded they share 100x more facial cranial similarity with Caucasoid people than a Korean and Japanese ever could

Here enjoy. Maybe you will now accept Dravidians and Veddas as part of your caucasoid aryan race, and these people even predate the europeans .

http://www.7wow.by/control_files/Image/veddas.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/535559954_3965ce90fe_z.jpg?zz=1


JOMON AND AINU CAN NEVER AND EVER BE CAUCASOID


Genetics

" Full-blooded Ainu, compared to people of Yamato descent, often have lighter skin and more body hair.[38] Many early investigators proposed a Caucasian ancestry,[39] although recent DNA tests have not shown any genetic similarity with modern Europeans. Cavalli-Sforza places the Ainu in his "Northeast and East Asian" genetic cluster.[40] "


Physical traits

" Mark J. Hudson, Professor of Anthropology at Nishikyushu University, Kanzaki, Saga, Japan, said Japan was settled by a "Proto-Mongoloid" population in the Pleistocene who became the Jōmon and their features can be seen in the Ainu and Okinawan people.[41] Margaret Sleeboom-Faulkner of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Sussex said Kanzō Umehara considered the Ainu and Ryukyuans to have "preserved their proto-Mongoloid traits".[42] it is demonstrated that the Ainu belongs to the Mongoloid race, rather than to the Caucasoid. Their phenotype features are explained as generalized Proto-Mongoloid characters. [43]


Fingerprint and dental

" Omoto has also shown that the Ainu are Mongoloid, and not Caucasoid, on the basis of fingerprints and dental morphology.[45] "





No, it does not.





First you say Finns show little Mongoloid DNA.

Now, you say they have so much Mongoloid DNA.

Well, make up your mind. Or just accept the reality that it's paleolithic shared-ancestor DNA and not recent Mongoloid DNA. It's not even Mongoloid DNA.

They are 6 - 12% Mongoloid, Russians ( north russians ) who also have more than 60% N are 4 - 14% Mongoloid. Compare with pure europeans that is a lot.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 07:21 AM
Let me try to ram this through your brachycephalic skull:

1.) No Jomon DNA has ever been tested before. Jomon DNA is a mystery. Japanese do not have the technical capability to analyze DNA from ancient skeletons. Only Svaant Pääbo of Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology has been able to develop and use this multi-million dollar, state-of-the-art technology.

2.) All of the "studies" you are posting are Nihonjinron and totally unacceptable as scientific inquiry. They are not studies, not science, just forgeries.

3.) Veddas, Australians, etc are considered Caucasoid and have been for over 50 years.

4.) Your ability to post pictures does not impress me in any way, shape or form. It is only a severe annoyance.

5.) Most all "Ainu" today are Yamato pretending to be Ainu. They look absolutely nothing like Ainu, because they aren't. They are pretenders. They want to be Ainu, the men who became Samurai and ruled over the Yamato with an iron White fist. Just like many Native Americans in the USA are blue eyed, thin faced White people (frauds).

6.) Ainu have been catergorically classified as Caucasoid by several mainstream anthropologists, as some in this thread have tried to show you.

7.) The "Mongoloid DNA" in Finns is not really Mongoloid at all and is shared among all northwestern Europeans, including Norwegians. It has absolutely nothing to do with an admixture event and everything to do with ancient separations. How do you think Norwegians got to be +10% Native American? Hint: There was never a Native American migration to Norway.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 07:30 AM
Let me try to ram this through your brachycephalic skull:

1.) No Jomon DNA has ever been tested before. Jomon DNA is a mystery. Japanese do not have the technical capability to analyze DNA from ancient skeletons. Only Svaant Pääbo of Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology has been able to develop and use this multi-million dollar, state-of-the-art technology.

2.) All of the "studies" you are posting are Nihonjinron and totally unacceptable as scientific inquiry. They are not studies, not science, just forgeries.

3.) Veddas, Australians, etc are considered Caucasoid and have been for over 50 years.

4.) Your ability to post pictures does not impress me in any way, shape or form. It is only a severe annoyance.

5.) Most all "Ainu" today are Yamato pretending to be Ainu. They look absolutely nothing like Ainu, because they aren't. They are pretenders. They want to be Ainu, the men who became Samurai and ruled over the Yamato with an iron White fist. Just like many Native Americans in the USA are blue eyed, thin faced White people (frauds).

6.) Ainu have been catergorically classified as Caucasoid by several mainstream anthropologists, as some in this thread have tried to show you.

7.) The "Mongoloid DNA" in Finns is not really Mongoloid at all and is shared among all northwestern Europeans, including Norwegians. It has absolutely nothing to do with an admixture event and everything to do with ancient separations. How do you think Norwegians got to be +10% Native American? Hint: There was never a Native American migration to Norway.


LOL first post those evidence that back up than we will keep going :bored:




LOL. Let's welcome the Australoids, Australian aborigines, papuans, Veddas, Dravidians, Polynesians as part of the Caucasoid race

DESCRIPTION OF AINU

And if there Caucasoid than that means Gypsies are 100x more white because they are 60-80% European and only 20-40% South Asian


Anthropologist Arnold Henry Savage Landor described the Ainu as having deep-set eyes and an eye shape typical of Europeans, with a large and prominent browridge, large ears, hairy and prone to baldness, slightly flattened hook nose with large and broad nostrils, prominent cheek bones, large mouth and thick lips and a long region from nose to mouth and small chin region.[44]


Description of Ainu


" Typically long beard, dark-brown eyes, high cheek-bones, short broad noses with large nostrils."



Always knew the europeans who considered south indians as niggers, non-whites, and non-caucasoid were part of the caucasoid race

Dark skinned Ainu


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Bjs48_02_Ainu.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/fi1/Ainu.jpg


Veddas

http://m3.i.pbase.com/t3/81/887181/4/115501053.jD364Kwy.jpg
http://www.srilankaecotourism.com/images/dambana_020.JPG
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/15694_113394058701781_5309036_n.jpg


Ainu


http://anglicanhistory.org/asia/jp/batchelor/yezo1902/011.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3614/3459084088_bc10dc4945.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la0or22hNl1qaypcc.jpg

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 07:37 AM
[size=5]Let me try to ram this through your brachycephalic skull:

1.) No Jomon DNA has ever been tested before. Jomon DNA is a mystery. Japanese do not have the technical capability to analyze DNA from ancient skeletons. Only Svaant Pääbo of Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology has been able to develop and use this multi-million dollar, state-of-the-art technology.



Here is the mtDNA study for ancient Jomons.

Mitochondrial DNA analysis of Jomon skeletons

Abstract

" Ancient DNA recovered from 16 Jomon skeletons excavated from Funadomari site, Hokkaido, Japan was analyzed to elucidate the genealogy of the early settlers of the Japanese archipelago. Both the control and coding regions of their mitochondrial DNA were analyzed in detail, and we could securely assign 14 mtDNAs to relevant haplogroups. Haplogroups D1a, M7a, and N9b were observed in these individuals, and N9b was by far the most predominant. The fact that haplogroups N9b and M7a were observed in Hokkaido Jomons bore out the hypothesis that these haplogroups are the (pre-) Jomon contribution to the modern Japanese mtDNA pool. Moreover, the fact that Hokkaido Jomons shared haplogroup D1 with Native Americans validates the hypothesized genetic affinity of the Jomon people to Native Americans, providing direct evidence for the genetic relationships between these populations. However, probably due to the small sample size or close consanguinity among the members of the site, the frequencies of the haplogroups in Funadomari skeletons were quite different from any modern populations, including Hokkaido Ainu, who have been regarded as the direct descendant of the Hokkaido Jomon people. It appears that the genetic study of ancient populations in northern part of Japan brings important information to the understanding of human migration in northeast Asia and America. "



But that's okay, you can pretend like this study never existed



Also please do not trust any non- Japanese sources:rolleyes:


" Cavalli-Sforza places the Ainu in his "Northeast and East Asian" genetic cluster. "



Source Cavalli-Sforza, L.L., Menozzi, P. & Piazza, A. (1994). The History and Geography of Human Genes. New Jersey: Princeton University Press.

Rugevit
06-27-2014, 07:43 AM
Finns are a mixture of Europeans and Siberians, while Japanese are fully Asian. So, Finns are more mixed.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 07:48 AM
Luigi Sforza is widely discredited in the genetics research community and a known fraud/charlatan. He did not take any DNA from the skeletons and in fact analyzed the cross-contaminated genetic material of a living Yamato person. Only Svaant Pääbo can extract DNA from ancient skeletons using a special drill and analysis method that costs millions of dollars to perform. Interestingly, Sforza believes Western Europeans are also 2/3rds East Asian and 1/3 African.


According to an article published in The Economist, the work of Cavalli-Sforza "challenges the assumption that there are significant genetic differences between human races, and indeed, the idea that 'race' has any useful biological meaning at all". The book illustrates both the problems of constructing a general "hereditary tree" for the entire human race, and some mechanisms and data analysis methods to greatly reduce these problems, thus constructing a fascinating hypothesis of the recent 150,000 years of human expansion, migration, and human diversity formation.[2] In the book Cavalli-Sforza asserts that Europeans are, in their ancestry, about two-thirds Asian and one-third African.[3]

http://m3.i.pbase.com/t3/81/887181/4/115501053.jD364Kwy.jpghttp://www.summagallicana.it/lessico/c/Coon%20Carleton%20Stevens.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3614/3459084088_bc10dc4945.jpghttp://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/ted_kaczynski_0519.jpg?w=420

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 07:52 AM
http://www.jstor.org/discover/pgs/index?id=10.2307/3096192&img=dtc.285.tif.gif

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 07:59 AM
Luigi Sforza is widely discredited in the genetics research community and a known fraud/charlatan. He did not take any DNA from the skeletons and in fact analyzed the cross-contaminated genetic material of a living Yamato person. Only Svaante Paabo can extract DNA from ancient skeletons using a special drill and analysis method that costs millions of dollars to perform. Interestingly, Sforza believes Western Europeans are also 2/3rds East Asian and 1/3 African.





Now he is a fraud too? What about Americans Josehp

"Anthropologist Joseph Powell of the University of New Mexico was also allowed to examine the remains. Powell used craniometric data obtained by anthropologist William White Howells of Harvard University and anthropologist Tsunehiko Hanihara of Saga University that had the advantage of including data drawn from Asian and North American populations.[9] Powell said that Kennewick Man was not European but most resembled the Ainu[6] and Polynesians.[9] Powell said that the Ainu descend from the Jōmon people who are an East Asian population with "closest biological affinity with south-east Asians rather than western Eurasian peoples".


[10] Furthermore, Powell said that dental analysis showed the skull to have a 94 percent chance of being a Sundadont group like the Ainu and Polynesians and only a 48 percent chance of being a Sinodont group like that of North Asia.[9] Powell said analysis of the skull showed it to be "unlike American Indians and Europeans".[9] Powell concluded that Kennewick man "is clearly not a Caucasoid unless Ainu and Polynesians are considered Caucasoid."[10]


" Chatters et al. conducted a graphic comparison, including size, of Kennewick Man to 18 modern populations and showed Kennewick Man to be most closely related to the Ainu. However, when size was excluded as a factor, no association to any population was established.[6] Chatters said that anthropologist C. Loring Brace classified Ainu and Polynesians as a single craniofacial Jomon-Pacific cluster and Chatters said "Polynesians have craniofacial similarities to Asian, Australian and European peoples".[9] Brace himself stated in a 2006 interview with the Tri-City Herald that his analysis of the skeleton indicated that Kennewick Man was related to the Ainu.[11][12] "


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF





Yeah okay, South Indians are true caucasoid and white

http://m3.i.pbase.com/t3/81/887181/4/115501053.jD364Kwy.jpghttp://www.summagallicana.it/lessico/c/Coon%20Carleton%20Stevens.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3614/3459084088_bc10dc4945.jpghttp://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/ted_kaczynski_0519.jpg?w=420

Yeah okay, South Indians are true caucasoid and white



Light skinned Ainu

http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/figs_25-26_hokkaido_ainu_man_hidaka-1.jpg

Vedda

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/15694_113394095368444_4451247_n.jpg




Dark skinned Ainu


http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/04/Ainu_Elder.jpg

Vedda

http://www.serendib.btoptions.lk/cpanel/uploader/196/Vadda%209.jpg.JPEG

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:05 AM
Powell, like Sforza, is a nobody and not a scientist. He has never analyzed Jomon DNA, like Sforza, and was most likely referring to the bunk study you are clinging to. Sforza wiped a few bones down with a polyester cloth to try and get DNA off of them. In doing so he only took the touch DNA of the last living Yamato archaeologist who handled the bones with bare hands. That is not how you get DNA from a skeleton. You cannot extract DNA from a +1000 year old skeleton by probing the surface. You have to drill all the way through the bone's surface and in to the hollow interior, where the marrow is located. You must then analyze that marrow using state of the art technology that has only existed since 2009. This is how Svaante Paabo got the Vindija DNA and it cost millions of dollars. Ainu are Caucasoid, they were the Samurai, they ran and still run Japan to this day.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:12 AM
Powell, like Sforza, is widely considered a charlatan and not a scientist. He has never analyzed Jomon DNA, like Sforza, and was most likely referring to the bunk study you are clinging to. Sforza wiped a few bones down with a polyester cloth to try and get DNA off of them. In doing so he only took the touch DNA of the last living Yamato archaeologist who handled the bones with bare hands. That is not how you get DNA from a skeleton. You cannot extract DNA from a +1000 year old skeleton by probing the surface. You have to drill all the way through the bone's surface and in to the hollow interior, where the marrow is located. You must then analyze that marrow using state of the art technology that has only existed since 2009. This is how Svaante Paabo got the Vindija DNA and it cost millions of dollars. Ainu are Caucasoid, they were the Samurai, they ran and still run Japan to this day.


Japanese anthropologist who reconstructed the skull and features.
These are the first Jomons of Japan, long before Yayoi came.


Rough translation to English


A team of scientists led by Yamashita maeda to determine racial claffication of Jomon and Ainu


" Jomon share more cranial similarity with caucasians but even more so with pacific islanders and people from South India, he furthered said they even shared more similarity with Amerindians and Taiwan aborigines than those of European and caucasoid descent "

" This had let Yamashita to conclude that Jomons are light skinned pacific landers "

" Unless one is to consider non-caucasoid people with similar cranial features as caucasoid, we cannot say Jomons are caucasoid.

" Scientist Yamashita also said Ainu and Jomons both have thicker lips than Caucasoid and Japanese, nose and nostrils are ussually more broad and wider, with more body hair.

" Hair ranges from straight to wavy, nose is small and broad to long and hooked, lengthy beard , thicker lips, larger mouth with round eyes"


http://jomon-japan.jp/en/wp-content/themes/jomon-japan/images/jomon-cultur/img_2-036.jpg
http://www.denki-kawaraban.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/yayoi-jomun.jpg
http://sites.psu.edu/hapadesu/wp-content/uploads/sites/9681/2014/03/f04da22dd51e11fdbb6a30.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2u7uo86.png

Äijä
06-27-2014, 08:14 AM
ButlerBrown spreading lies again, he also makes up his own pseudoscientific terms even, a real con artist.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:17 AM
"Scientist" Yamashita is not in fact a scientist, but a nationalistic, revisionist, lying fool.

At Chou Kou Tien, close to Peiping, the discoverers of Sinanthropus have
also found three well-preserved skulls, with one mandible and most of the
accompanying long bones, in limestone pockets of late glacial debris,
which includes Upper Palaeolithic implements analogous to European
types.

The preliminary descriptions of the cultural remains would suggest
late rather than early Upper Pleistocene age. One of these skulls, the
one with the mandible, seems, upon preliminary examination, to resemble
the European Upper Palaeolithic group very closely, and especially the
male of Qbercassel; it has also been compared to Ainu crania. A second
skull greatly resembles that of a modern Eskimo, while a third may be
compared to the racial type which invaded Japan during Neolithic times.
The importance of these skulls cannot be overemphasized. They indi-
cate that in eastern Asia as well as in Europe, the Late Palaeolithic group
was already racially complex; that peoples of European type stretched
across the entire width of the northern half of the Eurasiatic continent;
and that the mongoloid family of races had already begun its character-
istic development.

By means of this knowledge we may explain, at least
in part, the enigma of the Ainu, a large-headed, broad-faced white group
living on the outer periphery of eastern Asia. At the same time fresh light
is thrown upon the human materials which may have taken part in the
early peopling of America.

Swedish Upper Paleolithic Master Race broad nose
http://www.ems.net76.net/index_files/image3601.jpg

Irish Upper Paleolithic Master Race broad nose
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%209.jpg

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:22 AM
"Scientist" Yamashita is not in fact a scientist, but a nationalistic, revisionist, lying fool.

At Chou Kou Tien, close to Peiping, the discoverers of Sinanthropus have
also found three well-preserved skulls, with one mandible and most of the
accompanying long bones, in limestone pockets of late glacial debris,
which includes Upper Palaeolithic implements analogous to European
types. The preliminary descriptions of the cultural remains would suggest
late rather than early Upper Pleistocene age. One of these skulls, the
one with the mandible, seems, upon preliminary examination, to resemble
the European Upper Palaeolithic group very closely, and especially the
male of Qbercassel; it has also been compared to Ainu crania. A second
skull greatly resembles that of a modern Eskimo, while a third may be
compared to the racial type which invaded Japan during Neolithic times.
The importance of these skulls cannot be overemphasized. They indi-
cate that in eastern Asia as well as in Europe, the Late Palaeolithic group
was already racially complex; that peoples of European type stretched
across the entire width of the northern half of the Eurasiatic continent;
and that the mongoloid family of races had already begun its character-
istic development. By means of this knowledge we may explain, at least
in part, the enigma of the Ainu, a large-headed, broad-faced white group
living on the outer periphery of eastern Asia. At the same time fresh light
is thrown upon the human materials which may have taken part in the
early peopling of America.

Swedish Upper Paleolithic broad nose
http://www.ems.net76.net/index_files/image3601.jpg

Irish Upper Paleolithic Men
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%209.jpg


Dude you are a dumbass moron. You behave like these afrocentrist who denies everything given them unless they have it their way


You don't accept anything as fact if it doesn't go your ways. That means you only hear you want to hear. With such a defiance attitude I wouldn't even mind claiming moors who ruled iberia for 700 years were black if we don't accept what even white scientist and anthropologist say, and it is white anthropologist who said ainu are not caucasoid, but that's not enough for you.


Your first europeans looked like this

http://www.exposingblacktruth.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/first_european.jpg


еловек начала верхнего палеолита с Маркиной Горы
www.balto-slavica.com450 × 450Search by image
Как интерпретировать эти факты − пока неясно. Современные географические группы человечества (так называемые «расы») в верхнем палеолите


http://www.kunstkamera.ru/images/g/09_17.jpg

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:38 AM
Dude you are a dumbass moron. You behave like these afrocentrist who denies everything given them unless they have it their way


You don't accept anything as fact if it doesn't go your ways. That means you only hear you want to hear. With such a defiance attitude I wouldn't even mind claiming moors who ruled iberia for 700 years were black if we don't accept what even white scientist and anthropologist say, and it is white anthropologist who said ainu are not caucasoid, but that's not enough for you.


Actually, you are the one who wants to believe whatever you want to believe. That is why you spam three different forums (Anthroscape, The Apricity, ChinaHistoryForum) with your bullshit, obsessively, often under your other sock-puppet account (Spiritclaymore). As a Japanese, you have the biggest inferiority complex of any ethnic group, and it bothers you deeply that your people are a shitstain on the mattress of humanity. You can't believe that Ainu are Caucasoid, the owners of Japan, who became the Samurai and lorded over you as your masters for hundreds of years with extreme brutality. You have been trying to be like the White man ever since he broke open your shitty little island, and to you, that means being an unconquered and ambitious warrior people capable of building an autonomous and successful society. And that is something the Japanese could never do.

First Europeans:

http://www.hominides.com/data/images/illus/daynes/neandertal-st-cezaire-daynes.jpg

http://www.buffalonews.com/storyimage/BN/20140129/WORLD/140128766/AR/0/AR-140128766.jpg&maxW=960

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:38 AM
"

Actually, you are the one who wants to believe whatever you want to believe. That is why you spam three different forums (Anthroscape, The Apricity, ChinaHistoryForum) with your bullshit, obsessively, often under your other sock-puppet account (Spiritclaymore). As a Japanese, you have the biggest inferiority complex of any ethnic group, and it bothers you deeply that your people are a shitstain on the mattress of humanity. You can't believe that Ainu are Caucasoid, the owners of Japan, who became the Samurai and lorded over you as your masters for hundreds of years with extreme brutality. You have been trying to be like the White man ever since he broke open your shitty little island, and to you, that means being an unconquered and ambitious warrior people capable of building an autonomous and successful society. And that is something the Japanese could never do.


Oh I'm sorry I was told by the Russians, British that the first European's didn't even look Europeans.


Upper paleolithic Europeans? Yeah right lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY


These same types but with hair to make them look negro

Ancient inhabitants of Europe

http://i50.tinypic.com/16m6cub.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/nyfi1z.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/29er61j.jpg

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:43 AM
I encourage everyone here to go view this thread ButlerKing started over at Anthroscape under the screen name "Spiritclaymore" concerning the Jomon = Samurai issue. It is clearly a touchy subject for him that bothers him very dearly.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5140409/1/

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:45 AM
ButlerKing/Spiritclaymore's Youtube account (nice flag):

http://www.youtube.com/user/spiritclaymore

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:49 AM
. As a Japanese, you have the biggest inferiority complex of any ethnic group, and it bothers you deeply that your people are a shitstain on the mattress of humanity. You can't believe that Ainu are Caucasoid, the owners of Japan, who became the Samurai and lorded over you as your masters for hundreds of years with extreme brutality. You have been trying to be like the White man ever since he broke open your shitty little island, and to you, that means being an unconquered and ambitious warrior people capable of building an autonomous and successful society. And that is something the Japanese could never do.


No I'm not Japanese but I'm sick of eurocentrist like you who are bias and full of agenda. I'm pro white myself in many thing but I also dislike racism.

You guys don't claim South Indians instead back than you call them niggers, low class subhumans. You don't claim Gypsies as white because you think they steal and let down the white race, therefore you call them inferior even though they are 60-80% European and only 20-40% South Asian. And every time I show it to people people still deny them as white despite the fact countless genetic studies shows they are caucasoid.

Yet people you want to claim Ainu and Jomon who were as part of the white race, despite countless genetic studies have shown they don't have either genetically and racially nothing to do with Europeans, white or even caucasoid.

( you claim Jomon yet deny South Indians and gypsies as white )

I'm sorry the Ainu were not rulers, they were enslaved, raped, conquered by Japanese for 1200 years.



Japanese government view on Ainu race


http://bks7.books.google.co.uk/books?id=W5DKfJsPv2sC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=5&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE73w0aV_y44LHNZXhyofIItsyajyKWVpy-yUt6KjSzRahmAONPfq5CmLrYK98Gf4S5-gV52MmFI484fGo43fJtGlh40lfnAnfEFuJ96HQIKf2XKF3Cc60 6NljNjWKtIiks0W3YoR

" The Ainu race (Aino jinshu) is an inferior race, while our Japanese race (naichi jinshu) is a superior race. The superior race say that the inferior Ainu race will naturally die out "


" People of Hokkaido who exhibit Ainu or part Ainu features were discriminated against and generally treated more and less like subhumans "


The Conquest of Ainu Lands: Ecology and Culture in Japanese Expansion, 1590-1800

http://www.ucpress.edu/img/covers/isbn13/9780520248342.jpg


More cruel history of Ainu being treated by Japanese.


AMPO. - Volume 24 - Page 26


http://bks2.books.google.co.uk/books?id=eH4FAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE72y1aC19ueHYbrYbkqTfwzVtub2Aajy3Rm4dxKE MqL8Ihxz_cotMfR_d0JJMK8haCJxOoPcPTG1iMranuojvyBEXp qCs65UMP7pz8m2JQ8lJ2FryqE

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"As part of this system, Ainu males are used as slave labor, and females are frequently raped. Ainu anger against these atrocious deeds explodes into the last military campaign conducted by the Ainu against the Japanese. 1869 "

Japanese doctor said " Ainu resembles more like monkeys than humans "


" Japanese government wanted the Ainu exterminated. They brought migrants and epidemic diseases that Ainu had no resistance against it "



http://i42.tinypic.com/99hpox.jpg
http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/Ezo-Shima-Kikan-1.png

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:53 AM
ButlerKing/Spiritclaymore's Youtube account (nice flag):

http://www.youtube.com/user/spiritclaymore


Listen, I don't even know who this youtube account is. I admit I'm spiritclaymore but I no freaking idea who the guy is


Spiritclaymore is a type of sword in video games

http://dpnest.com/img/item//090-005_2h-blade_042.png

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 08:55 AM
Everyone knows Japanese hate Ainu. That's because Ainu ruled over them for over 1000 years, it's the secret Japan can't keep secret. Scientists like C. Loring Brace have proven this. Just accept it, get over it and get on with your fail life living in a fail bedroom in a fail country that was conquered by a hairy dog.


The Ainos as a Race
Kansas City Medical-Lancet

http://i.imgur.com/2n2B7ls.jpg

"The Lowest Race of Men" are erroneously placed side by side with the "black and brown" Japanese, Bantus, Zulus and other Hottentots, the Ainos (you spell it Ainu, meaning "dog" in Japanese). The Aino, or aborigines of the Japanese (Nipponese) archipelago, are a pure white (Caucasian) race and never assimilated at all with Negroid Japanese (Malayan-Papuan). Nor did they ever make "intelligence soldiers against Russia," the Japanese refusing for twenty centuries any association with this "hairy white dog", as they called him.

He lived in absolute isolation from the blackish-brown Japanese race and thus was prevented from becoming contaminated with Japanese leprosy. The superior and intelligent White Aino is not to be classed with Japanese Hottentots or Digger Indian grub-eating races. The Japanese, it is true, themselves eat "putrid whale" and putrid radishes (not "cheese," for the product of animals was always tabooed by the Buddhists), but the pure White Aino eat bear meat, just as all the superior tribes of Siberia have always done.

And the odor of an Aino is most fragrant. Bear eating Aino have acquired a stamina, not equaled by vegetables and fish eating Japs. Nor have they been dwarfed by their dictary. In spite of what Professor Frederick Starr, anthropologist of the University of Chicago, has said that "the ainos of Yezo, Japan are small, on an average, a little over three feet tall," the Ainos average in height from 4 feet 11 inches to 5 feet 1 inch, and are therefore not dwarves.

I have professionally attended a number of these aboriginal people at General Horace Capron's Agricultural School, in Tokio, directly opposite my hospital, at the foot of the hill of a hundred steps (Atago-Yama). Proportionately the Aino are better built than persons of the Japanese race.

The odor of the Japanese is due to their use of vegetables and nothing else, especially their use of the long radish, eaten raw. This odor is distinctly a fecal odor, imbibed by the vegetable from the land which nourishes them with the night stuffs of cities. Wherever one goes in Japan up the Sumida river to view the cherry blooms or the beautiful lotus ponds of temples or of palace moats, the "stink of the land" goes with you. One becomes saturated with it; it infects your clothes, your room, your very skin. Japan is the stinkenest country on Earth, and yet poets never tire of singing its praises. An the odor of this vegetarian country is the result of eating the vegetables and of nothing else.

The world over there are dwarves and dwarves. The Japanese race is dwarfed. All the people are more or less dwarfed.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 08:59 AM
Everyone knows Japanese hate Ainu. That's because Ainu ruled over them for over 1000 years, it's the secret Japan can't keep secret. Scientists like C. Loring Brace have proven this. Just accept it, get over it and get on with your fail life living in a fail bedroom in a fail country that was conquered by a hairy dog.


Every european who traveled to Japan and knew of the Ainu in 18th to 20th century knows about how the Ainu and Emishi were enslaved , forced into as sex slaves, and was considered subhumans.


SO IN OTHER WORDS: If the ainu were white and european, than white and Europeans were raped and enslaved for nearly 1200 years by the Asian mongoloid


Japanese samurai took Ainu women as sex slaves.

http://www.cnn.co.uk/ASIANOW/time/features/ontheroad/japan.sapporo.ainu.html

" Japanese settlers commonly took Ainu women as sexual slaves, according to Dennis Johnson, author of a recent history of the ethnic group. "[/QUOTE]


Takako Yamada - 2001 - Snippet view

" In fact, Batchelor describes the status of Ainu women as: "Ainu women have been treated more or less like inferior humans. The whole life of women was, in most cases, occupied with working busily without a break like slaves. "


Population Decline In 1822, according to government surveys, more than 23,000 Ainu lived on Hokkaido. By 1873, the Ainu population had fallen to about 16,000.[/QUOTE]

Emishi paying homage to Prince Shotoku. Produced in AD 1324 which is a copy of an original from AD 1069 (From shotokutaishi e-den e-maki)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Emishi_from_an_emaki_circa_1324.jpg/800px-Emishi_from_an_emaki_circa_1324.jpg



http://www.japanfocus.org/-Chisato__Kitty_-Dubreuil/2589


" During late Edo and early Meiji periods, Ainu were often made slaves or 'comfort women'. During this time the Ainu were still thought of as sub-human, dogs. "



Even Ainu themselves told of the same thing. Ainu being enslaved by the Togukawa.

Postmodernism and race
by Eric M. Kramer


http://bks5.books.google.co.uk/books?id=tuejKyVJ2jMC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=5&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE72fZLf30617mcPiOPuhlBQGVnuKJ-2bJad5QIl6xt82kQp_1YmqkFNjHC69xaLZdJvAjMw3PG3hyb09 QKqRzy2shTs4EjSb0yS-ONiyUrYF41gP2nQ5V9nNCUG8o5_CDR2vOBJ3


" Some Ainu oral stories, and the Matsumae clan's documents, recall and record several severe battles between the Ainu people and the invaders. After loosing several battles, the Ainu people were enslaved. "

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:06 AM
Every european who traveled to Japan and knew of the Ainu in 18th to 20th century knows about how the Ainu and Emishi were enslaved , forced into as sex slaves, and was considered subhumans.

Wrong. Did you read the Kansas City Medical Lancet? The American author lived and worked there for years as a doctor (your country didn't have adequate medical services at that time and depended on Americans to run your hospitals) and saw just the opposite. Ainu were a superior, meat eating tribe with a most fragrant body odor and very healthy. Japanese were an inferior, raddish-eating, brown-skinned Negroid race of dwarves who never conquered anything and constantly smelled like shit. Japanese can't even have sex let alone fight; they all have erectile dysfunction.

Japanese women got taken as sex slaves by Ainu. That is why Japanese males try to make a self-congratulatory myth of the opposite. The shame is too hard for inferiority-complex driven Japanese to "bear."

None of the "Ainu" today are Ainu. They're mostly all Japanese pretending to be Ainu.

C. Loring Brace exposed the truth, and now Japanese like you are flooding the internet with lies to cover up your broken newfound ethnic pride.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:14 AM
C. Loring Brace have proven this. Just accept it, get over it and get on with your fail life living in a fail bedroom in a fail country that was conquered by a hairy dog.


And didn't you know C. Loring Brace made a mistake about Kennewick man being Caucasoid which later found out he isn't caucasoid and re-acted is claim by saying Ainu and Polunesians are in single Jomon-Pacific cluster. He even denied Ainu were white or caucasoid, and claimed they were more like polynsians and micronesians of pacific islands.

" Anthropologist C. Loring Brace classified Ainu and Polynesians as a single craniofacial Jomon-Pacific cluster and Chatters said "Polynesians have craniofacial similarities to Asian, Australian and European peoples".[9] Brace himself stated in a 2006 interview with the Tri-City Herald that his analysis of the skeleton indicated that Kennewick Man was related to the Ainu.[11][12]



ABOUT AINU AND EMISHI BEING SLAVES TO JAPANESE DATES BACK 1200 YEARS AGO




The ancient Ainu territories of North Japan in Hokkaido, North Honshu have been all conquered by the Japanese started from 700 AD to 1500 AD in north Honshu to 1600 - 1868 in South Hokkaido, to later all of Hokkaido from 1868 - 2014


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qTDAEasFLtU/SyOKBBb5rsI/AAAAAAAAGyM/6ZpteJ12F1c/s1600/Ainu+map.png




The title itself, Sei-i-tai Shogun [barbarian-subduing generalissimo], dates back to 794 and originally meant commander of the imperial armies who led the campaigns against the Ainu in N Japan.

http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/shogun.html

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:22 AM
Wrong. Did you read the Kansas City Medical Lancet? The American author lived and worked there for years as a doctor (your country didn't have adequate medical services at that time and depended on Americans to run your hospitals) and saw just the opposite. Ainu were a superior, meat eating tribe with a most fragrant body odor and very healthy. Japanese were an inferior, raddish-eating, brown-skinned Negroid race of dwarves who never conquered anything and constantly smelled like shit. Japanese can't even have sex let alone fight; they all have erectile dysfunction.

Japanese women got taken as sex slaves by Ainu. That is why Japanese males try to make a self-congratulatory myth of the opposite. The shame is too hard for inferiority-complex driven Japanese to "bear."

None of the "Ainu" today are Ainu. They're mostly all Japanese pretending to be Ainu.

C. Loring Brace exposed the truth, and now Japanese like you are flooding the internet with lies to cover up your broken newfound ethnic pride.



How is Ainu or Jomon originally samurai? They existed in Japan 18,000 Years ago where as Samurai existed only in 700 AD Emperor Tenji underwent a reform.

" Following the Battle of Hakusukinoe against Tang China and Silla in 663 AD that led to a Japanese retreat from Korean affairs, Japan underwent widespread reform. One of the most important was that of the Taika Reform, issued by Prince Naka no Ōe (Emperor Tenji) in 646 AD. This edict allowed the Japanese aristocracy to adopt the Tang dynasty political structure, bureaucracy, culture, religion, and philosophy.[3] As part of the Taihō Code, of 702 AD, and the later Yōrō Code,[4] the population was required to report regularly for census, a precursor for national conscription. With an understanding of how the population was distributed, Emperor Mommu introduced a law whereby 1 in 3–4 adult males was drafted into the national military. These soldiers were required to supply their own weapons, and in return were exempted from duties and taxes.[3] This was one of the first attempts by the Imperial government to form an organized army modeled after the Chinese system. It was called "Gundan-Sei" (軍団制) by later historians and is believed to have been short-lived.


" The Taihō Code classified most of the Imperial bureaucrats into 12 ranks, each divided into two sub-ranks, 1st rank being the highest adviser to the Emperor. Those of 6th rank and below were referred to as "samurai" and dealt with day-to-day affairs. Although these "samurai" were civilian public servants, the name is believed to have derived from this term. Military men, however, would not be referred to as "samurai" for many more centuries. "


BESIDES JAPANESE ARE NOT EVEN DESCENDANTS OF AINU OR JOMON, THEY ARE DESCENDANTS OF OKINAWANS


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A8zHNEaDwQA/T6U0pMnskWI/AAAAAAAAEak/Pu8-DfmJ6cA/s1600/%E7%B8%84%E6%96%87%E4%BA%BA%E3%83%BB%E6%B8%A1%E6%9 D%A5%E7%B3%BB%E5%BC%A5%E7%94%9F%E4%BA%BA%E3%83%BB% E5%8F%A4%E5%A2%B3%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3%E4%BA%BAA.jpg


Research shows Ainu and Okinawans more genetically related
http://japandailypress.com/research-shows-ainu-and-okinawans-more-genetically-related-0217724/


Recent findings in the field of genetics have shown that the Ainu of Hokkaido and the native people of Okinawa share similar inherited traits. This is despite the fact that the two peoples live in polar opposites of Japan’s islands.


The research, a joint effort by the National Institute of Genetics, the University of Tokyo, and other institutions, involved examining DNA samples from 36 Ainu collected and stored about 30 years ago and comparing them with DNA from 35 native Okinawans, 245 Japanese living in Honshu, Japan’s largest and main island, as well as ethnic Han Chinese in Beijing. The results revealed that Ainu DNA most closely resembled those of people who have lived in Okinawa for generations. Ainus also shared inherited traits, but to a lesser degree, with modern-day Japanese from Honshu. Professor Naruya Saito from the Division of Population Genetics in the National Institute of Genetics pointed out that this situation was contrary to the norm where genetic traits diverge as the distance between peoples grow.

The findings also showed that the Japanese living in Honshu displayed genetic similarities with South Koreans and Chinese, supporting the theory that the Japanese people originated from the intermarrying of two different groups: the Yayoi who migrated from the Asian continent, and the Jomon who where native to the islands of Honshu and Kyushu. It is the genetic characteristics of the original Jomon genome that the findings showed to be more prevalent in the Ainu and native Okinawans. The results of the research will be published in the Journal of Human Genetics on November 1.



http://cdn.japandailypress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ainu.jpeg

I've also asked a Japanese youtuber who created the video " origin of Japanese DNA " he now thinks the theory Japanese are mixture of Okinawans and Yayoi makes more sense.

The mixture of Yayoi and Jomon started in Okinawa and southern Japan, later Japanese with similar genetic profile to Okinawans in DNA migrated north of Japan and mixed with another arrival of Yayoi migrants and later migrated to others parts of Japanese. these mixture made Japanese from the north, central, south more Yayoi. While those Ainu from Hokkaido and the Okinawans retained higher Jomon blood, Japanese on the other hand kept adsorbing Yayoi blood.

http://blog-imgs-56.fc2.com/m/a/m/mamoretaiwan/20121102151923bc8.jpg

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:22 AM
Brace, like the mainstream of his era, believed correctly that Polynesians were Caucasoids of the Paleolithic Mediterranean variety.




Paragraph ( i ) Written history is ephemeral. (2) Earth- preserved
history lasts longer. (3) The record of man in the rocks
of Java has lasted nearly a million years. (4) Palaeolithic
man spans hundreds of thousands of years, neolithic man
only tens of thousands. (5) Neolithic man specialised into
megalithic man thousands of years ago. (6) Megalithic
man started from Mauritania along the Atlantic and Baltic
coasts of Europe, and crossed to Korea through the north
of Central Asia. (7) From Korea he went into Micronesia ;
(8) thence into Samoa and Tonga. (9) In Eastern Poly-
nesia he has left more traces. (10) Another megalithic
track goes along the south of Asia into the Malay Peninsula,
Sumatra, and Java, and there stops. (11) The northern
route is fairly continuous across the Pacific into Central
America and Peru. (12) It is the track of one division of
mankind. (13) This division is Caucasian, not negroid
or Mongoloid. (14) For it is also maritime and long-
voyaging. (15) The track probably proves a line of inland
seas from the Caspian to Lake Baikal. (16) A maritime and
Caucasian people therefore found its way into Polynesia,
and thence into America.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:24 AM
Okinawans have 27% Jomon mtDNA M7a and N9b with 56% Jomon Y-DNA D2 with about 17-23% Jomon blood and 77-80% Yayoi blood. They also have lower frequencies of O2b and O3


The difference is that Japanese acquired an extra 3-13% Yayoi blood from the Yayoi era with higher frequencies of O2b, O3 and lower D2 and M7a, N9b. The emperor of Japan even claim descent from Korean queen. Which is something only imperial royalty of Japanese have.


ENJOY WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pnQaJC8vyU

Physically Okinawans and Japanese are almost physically indistinguishable

http://www.seiritsu-int.com/contents/Year%2020%20Okinawa%20beach%20group.jpg
http://hiraekinjoryubu.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/minna.33780639_std.JPG

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:25 AM
Okinawans have 27% Jomon mtDNA M7a and N9b with 56% Jomon Y-DNA D2 with about 17-23% Jomon blood and 77-80% Yayoi blood. They also have lower frequencies of O2b and O3



You are incorrect. Jomon DNA has never been analyzed.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:31 AM
http://historum.com/general-history/48531-all-races-under-white-caucasoid-empire-asian-mongoloid-empires-black-negroid-empire.html

ButlerKing's posts on a different forum going back to 2012. He is very adamant in trying to convince himself that Europeans are "not the only ones who conquered the world." It is a touchy subject that has bothered him for several years, because he is ashamed of American occupation of his country.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:34 AM
Brace, like the mainstream of his era, believed correctly that Polynesians were Caucasoids of the Paleolithic Mediterranean variety.


Brace reject the claim Pacific islanders are caucasoid any book source regarding him talking about this well tell you they aren't caucasoids or white.

I find this so freaking funny, people like you reject Gypsies as White

http://media.irishcentral.com/images/20111101035931Roma-Gypsies.jpg


So now these people are white too? Paleolithic Mediterranean? that's a very bold claim considered they existed from a mixture of Mongoloid Taiwan aborigines and Melanesians.



http://www.tattooseo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Polynesian-Maori-Tatoos1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ufQo9WKoZMU/TTU6eeZJ8eI/AAAAAAAAA3c/hcwYO85pQQg/s1600/Moko%2BFull%2BFace.jpg
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/166/472/16647261_640.jpg

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:37 AM
I have said over and over that Gypsies, Veddahs, etc are White. You are choosing to ignore this, because you have been called racial slurs by White people in the past, and it bothers you that White people sooner identify with Polynesians, Ainu and Australoids than with Mongoloids, who are obviously the most pathetic people to ever disgrace the Earth. Every source claims Polynesians as Caucasoid, including the one I just posted, and which you ignored.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:42 AM
http://historum.com/general-history/48531-all-races-under-white-caucasoid-empire-asian-mongoloid-empires-black-negroid-empire.html

ButlerKing's posts on a different forum going back to 2012. He is very adamant in trying to convince himself that Europeans are "not the only ones who conquered the world." It is a touchy subject that has bothered him for several years, because he is ashamed of American occupation of his country.

Absolutely. I enjoy proving everyone wrong. And you could avoid the shame of having a Asians saying White people were ruled and enslaved by Asian Japanese for 1200 years. Forget Japanese, if Polynesians and Micronesians are white Mediterraneans than the Taiwanese Chinese had enslaved WHITE TAIWANESE ABORIGINES FOR NEARLY 400 years.


Polynesian DNA

"
Evolution. Examination of mitochondrial DNA lineages shows that they have been evolving within Island Southeast Asia (ISEA) for a longer period than previously believed. Polynesians arrived in the Bismarck Archipelago of Papua New Guinea at least 6,000 to 8,000 years ago, and modern Polynesians are the result of a few Austronesian seafarers mixing with Melanesians.[12]

A study in 2008 argued that "79% of the Polynesian autosomal gene pool is of East Asian origin and 21% is of Melanesian origin."[13]

" Recent maternal mitochondrial DNA analysis suggests that Polynesians, including Samoans, Tongans, Niueans, Cook Islanders, Tahitians, Hawaiians, Marquesans and Māori, are genetically linked to indigenous peoples of parts of Southeast Asia including those of Taiwan.[6] This DNA evidence is supported by linguistic[7] and archaeological evidence. "

Taiwanese Chinese had enslaved WHITE TAIWANESE ABORIGINES FOR NEARLY 400 years.


Ancestors of Polynesian whites and Micronesians white were enslaved by the Taiwanese Chinese for 400 years

http://i48.tinypic.com/30iz5fn.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/xp3dkh.jpg

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 09:49 AM
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That's quite interesting but only you yourself on this forum think polynesian and veddas are white. You're like 0.0001% who agrees and honestly I think you're crazy.

Gypsies are definitely white as for the South Indians and Veddas... even for me it's really hard to say since historically South Indians have been called niggers, black subhumans by european colonists.

And even black albinos or black with white skin and straight hair can look European and Caucasoids

http://s21.postimg.org/yewz71ybr/black_family_into_white_with_makeup1.jpg

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 09:50 AM
You are incorrect. Jomon DNA has never been analyzed.

Gypsies are more aryan than ainu, do not just fantasize jomons and ainu because they are a part of a successful nation.

Why dont go analyze indian brahmins and gypsies, you would even find you close kins.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 09:52 AM
Absolutely. I enjoy proving everyone wrong.

The only problem with that being that you clearly don't enjoy it, because you obviously haven't proven anyone wrong, and all of your rants are taken as a joke by forum readers. Your dissatisfaction with the fact that no one has paid any real attention to your incoherent ramblings after all these years is understandable.

templumForasticus
06-27-2014, 10:03 AM
i imagine bking like a exceptionally gifted indian
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110919060126/bigbangtheroy/es/images/5/57/274453_100002608720635_1413112_n-1-.jpg

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:03 AM
Taiwanese aborigines, polynesians, ainu, jomons are white? I guess it is something like dissecting the frogs in the name of preservation. Still some communist bullshit here. Marx did not write his book in China, maybe some centuries later, legends will have that Marx was a mongoloid.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 10:03 AM
The only problem with that being that you clearly don't enjoy it, because you obviously haven't proven anyone wrong, and all of your rants are taken as a joke by forum readers. Your dissatisfaction with the fact that no one has paid any real attention to your incoherent ramblings after all these years is understandable.

Oh I'm sorry, shouldn't you be talking about how Taiwanese aborigines are caucasoids and master race of Taiwan? Why don't you claim the pure blood polynesian ancestors are as caucasoid and white.

Or is it because they were conquered? Or do you know that 88% of Taiwanese Chinese are descendants of Chinese Taiwanese men interbreeding with superior polynesian-Taiwanese aborigine Caucasoid women ?

" The human leukocyte antigen typing study and mitochondrial DNA analysis performed in recent years show that more than 88% of the benshengren population have some degree of aboriginal origin (Sim 2003).


They stole women from Taiwan aborigines caucasoids lol

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Seediq females
http://i47.tinypic.com/9qjp7n.jpg

Look at how taller and bigger they are compared with the average Japanese
http://i49.tinypic.com/22fi1u.jpg
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Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:06 AM
i imagine bking like a exceptionally gifted indian
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110919060126/bigbangtheroy/es/images/5/57/274453_100002608720635_1413112_n-1-.jpg

He reeks of british, his temperament, anxiety.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 10:07 AM
LOL, you just can't stop it with the fucking pictures. It's an obsession.

templumForasticus
06-27-2014, 10:11 AM
He reeks of british, his temperament, anxiety.


I think he's Indian, that is why he defends his Japanese racial brothers.

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 10:15 AM
Actually ButlerKing is this fat Japanese guy who has a lot of sock puppet accounts such as Spiritclaymore, KingButler, Hexachordia, templumForasticus, DesiAmerican, etc.

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 10:17 AM
LOL, you just can't stop it with the fucking pictures. It's an obsession.


Not it's because 88% of Taiwanese Chinese have Taiwanese aboriginal Caucasoid maternal blood.

And many Taiwanese aborigines today have more descendants of Chinese blood than Taiwanese aborigine, much like 1/2 of the Ainu population don't even look Ainu anymore.

Forced to intermarry, because their features get them discriminated. So many of them look more Japanese

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/AinuSan.jpg

In same many Taiwanese aborigines have lost their proto-mongoloid and paleo-mongoloid traits.


But many still have kept those traits

http://www.spacedaily.com/images-lg/taiwan-indigenous-protest-afp-lg.jpg
http://www.formosatravel.net/images/stories/taiwan/article_images/hakka-old-streets-in-search-of-nostalgia-in-old-miaoli-towns01.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d09DvTTvhHw/UOMKZNShBuI/AAAAAAAADnw/USddxLMNaaM/s1600/abroginies5.jpg

SardiniaAtlantis
06-27-2014, 10:18 AM
He reeks of british, his temperament, anxiety.

Unfathomable it has been officially ruled by court that he is not British.

templumForasticus
06-27-2014, 10:18 AM
Actually ButlerKing is this fat Japanese guy who has a lot of sock puppet accounts such as Spiritclaymore, KingButler, Hexachordia, templumForasticus, DesiAmerican, etc.

fuk you

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:18 AM
I think he's Indian, that is why he defends his Japanese racial brothers.

Sometimes he is as right as an honest isle dweller :)

The Nordic Imperator
06-27-2014, 10:19 AM
The Ainu you posted are Yamato-Japanese pretenders; not admixed Ainu.

Polynesians actually look nothing like the Ainu; they're a different sub-set of the Caucasoid race, Mediterranean, as I previously stated, of the Paleolithic variety. They are much physically larger than Ainu and more closely resemble Amerindians in that sense. There is no paternal east Asian DNA in Polynesians. Very little genetic research has been conducted on them (they're a fairly marginal group).

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:20 AM
Actually ButlerKing is this fat Japanese guy who has a lot of sock puppet accounts such as Spiritclaymore, KingButler, Hexachordia, templumForasticus, DesiAmerican, etc.

You proved yourself wrong once, you lost the debate forever. ;)

SardiniaAtlantis
06-27-2014, 10:20 AM
Sometimes he is as right as an honest isle dweller :)

Please see here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111694-Is-ButlerKing-British&highlight=butlerking+British A definitive answer to his origin was not established save for the fact that it is certainly not Britain.

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:24 AM
Unfathomable it has been officially ruled by court that he is not British.

This is called island mentality, sensitive, talkative, uncompromising, honest, I noticed this in many japanese and white brits.

SardiniaAtlantis
06-27-2014, 10:26 AM
This is called island mentality, sensitive, talkative, uncompromising, honest, I noticed this in many japanese and white brits.

Please do check the link you will see much evidence that shall shed light on the matter.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111694-Is-ButlerKing-British&highlight=butlerking+British

ButlerKing
06-27-2014, 10:27 AM
The Ainu you posted are Yamato-Japanese pretenders; not admixed Ainu.

Polynesians actually look nothing like the Ainu; they're a different sub-set of the Caucasoid race, Mediterranean, as I previously stated, of the Paleolithic variety. They are much physically larger than Ainu and more closely resemble Amerindians in that sense. There is no paternal east Asian DNA in Polynesians. Very little genetic research has been conducted on them (they're a fairly marginal group).

And yet brace and every other european and anthropologist claimed Jomon are most closest to polynesian cranially. The only reason you think their white is because their superficial traits like light skin and hairy bodies but that have nothing to do with race.

You obviously don't read well about what Ainu are like ......Ainu are shorter than Japanese hahahahaha




The Ainu


http://www.oneofmanyfeathers.com/the_ainu.html


"
The Ainu are shorter than the Japanese people, with lighter skin, robust body and short limbs. Unlike typical Mongoloids, their hair is wavy and the body hair is abundant; men wear large beards and mustaches, considered a sign of beauty, to the point that married women tattoo their lower face to mimic a beard. Ainu have not such pronounced almond-shaped eyes and lack the Mongoloid fold of the eye; the nose is large and straight. All these point to their origin in Polynesia or southeastern Asia
"


Haplogroup O is 29 - 35 % in Polynesnian/Micronesians including this Papuan New guinea

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Haplogrupo_O_%28ADN-Y%29.PNG

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:28 AM
Please see here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111694-Is-ButlerKing-British&highlight=butlerking+British A definitive answer to his origin was not established save for the fact that it is certainly not Britain.

He did not defend himself over there, if he is an imposter, he would be enjoying the game. He could fool people by providing further false evidences but he did not. I still believe he is a white brit.

Hexachordia
06-27-2014, 10:32 AM
The Ainu you posted are Yamato-Japanese pretenders; not admixed Ainu.

Polynesians actually look nothing like the Ainu; they're a different sub-set of the Caucasoid race, Mediterranean, as I previously stated, of the Paleolithic variety. They are much physically larger than Ainu and more closely resemble Amerindians in that sense. There is no paternal east Asian DNA in Polynesians. Very little genetic research has been conducted on them (they're a fairly marginal group).

It will be racialist assimilation on part of yours, if you want polynesians, abos, amerinds, jomons it is your matter. I cannot argue with subjective opinions, wont stop you either. I am not fervently against race-mixing myself, races should die by any means, race-mixing and drug abuse are ideal.

SardiniaAtlantis
06-27-2014, 10:33 AM
He did not defend himself over there, if he is an imposter, he would be enjoying the game. He could fool people by providing further false evidences but he did not. I still believe he is a white brit.

The point is not only that he did not defend himself but that his responses were counter to his arguments, and served as proof against him. Particularly the errors in lexicon which were very telling. Please do go well through it it is a very decisive thread.

templumForasticus
06-27-2014, 10:36 AM
Maybe butler king is a universal Briton.



http://espaciosalternativos.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/universo.jpg

sgc2009
06-27-2014, 04:09 PM
Mongoloid DNA in Scandinavians stems from an earlier population event (+20,000 YBP) and has nothing to do with recent admixtures with Mongoloids (which did not occur).

No, it doesn't. You're thinking of ANE (Ancient North Eurasians) as being Mongoloid, when it's been proven they were West Eurasian. Scots f.ex. have higher ANE than Norwegians but still lacks Siberian admix. The Siberian admix in Swedes and Norwegians came from contacts with Saamis, Kvens and Finns, who in turn acquired it from Siberian admixed Uralic tribes.

Luovatus
06-27-2014, 05:42 PM
Excuse me for interrupting your nice little conversation, but I´m referring to the title of this thread as a Finn and my answer is Finns!

P.S. This so stupid thread :033102st:

The Nordic Imperator
06-28-2014, 03:50 AM
AINU ARE PURE CAUCASOID - - THE ORIGINAL SAMURAI. NEANDERTHAL LINK IDENTIFIED.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/mdia/0522508.0016.108/--professor-c-loring-brace-bringing-physical-anthropology?rgn=main;view=fulltext


Brace’s influence on Japanese anthropology

Brace’s research has strongly influenced the field of biological anthropology in Japan. One area in which he has made a major impact is in supporting a model of Jomon Ainu continuity (Brace and Nagai 1982), and the Ainu Samurai (in this context, the word Samurai represents the inhabitants of the Kanto Plain area around the 14th century) connection via odontometric and craniofacial perspectives (Brace, Brace, and Leonard 1989; Brace and Tracer 1990). The latter has been controversial in Japan, and a public talk entitled Brace’s AinuSamurai Hypothesis from 1989 Until Today was presented by one of us (Seguchi) at the 2005 Annual Meeting of the Anthropological Society of Nippon, in Yokohama, Japan.

In addition to showing that the Jomon of prehistoric Japan cluster with the Ainu and deserve recognition as their ancestors, Brace’s cranial and dental data demonstrate that the Polynesians also cluster with the Jomon and Ainu, and that Bronze Age Mongolians fit into this cluster along with Northern Plain Native Americans. His data further suggest that there was a northern continuity across the Old World that goes back to pre-modern roots in the Pleistocene, which explains why the Ainu look somewhat like Europeans, as do northern Plains Native Americans and some Polynesians (Brace et al. 2001). Happily, Brace continues to engage in research on the peopling of the New World.


The baffling 9,300-year-old Kennewick Man, whose skeleton was unearthed in 1996 in Washington state, looks so "European" because he had Neanderthal roots, a scientist said today. The National Park Service said earlier this month it would allow a genetic analysis of the skeleton, which some Native American groups claim as an ancestor and want buried. It has intrigued researchers because the features seem to suggest a more Caucasian than Asian origin. Others say he looks like an Ainu - the aboriginal people of Japan who are often said to be physically closer to Europeans than Japanese.

Loring Brace, a specialist in bone measurements at the University of Michigan, says he has a simple explanation for this - both Kennewick Man and the Ainu, along with the people of Europe, descended from Neanderthals. "I have long maintained that Neanderthals are obviously the ancestors of living Europeans," Brace told a news conference held at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

A Controversial Theory

"To produce a modern European out of a Neanderthal, all you have to do is reduce the robustness," Brace said. Scale down the heavy teeth, jaws and brow of the Neanderthal and you have a European, he said. It is a controversial theory because most scientists believe that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead-end, people who lived side-by-side with the Cro-Magnons who were the earliest Homo sapiens but who did not interbreed with them.

But Loring said his measurements that compare the skulls of people all over the world suggest a resemblance among peoples living in Europe, along the coastlines of Asia and into ancient North America. He also found two distinct groups among the Native Americans. "It is clear there are two major groups and they are not closely related to each other at all," Brace said. One group physically more resembles East Asians, especially modern Chinese, while the second looks a lot like the Ainu. "Some of the Plains Indians don't look Native American at all," Brace said. He thinks they may have come from the same lineage as Kennewick Man did. Brace has not been allowed to examine the Kennewick remains, but thinks any measurements he could make would support his theories.

Studies May Back Up Theory

Some recent evidence tends to support Brace. In October an international team of scientists tested Neanderthal bones found in Croatia in the 1970s and found they may be just 28,000 years old, which means they would have lived side-by-side with modern humans for several thousand years.

Erik Trinkaus, an anthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis, led that study and another one that a few months earlier suggested that the 24,500-year-old bones of a child found in Portugal showed characteristics of both Neanderthals and of modern humans. Trinkaus said he believed this suggested humans and Neanderthals interbred, but Brace said it just as easily could have been an "intermediate" form of human evolving from Neanderthal into modern Homo sapiens sapiens.

Although just a few years ago everyone agreed no humans lived in the New World until about 11,000 years ago, and that everyone trekked together over the Bering Strait into Alaska, more and more evidence suggests that people started coming over in successive waves as long as 30,000 years ago. David Meltzer, an anthropologist at Southern Methodist University, noted that huge ice sheets would have blocked any passage from the Bering Strait down through Canada until 11,500 years ago. A settlement in Monte Verde, Chile has been dated to 12,500 years ago, which suggests people must have come either a different way, or long before the ice sheets formed.


Theodore Schurr of the Southwest Foundation for Biomedical research in San Antonio, Texas did genetic studies that found four separate lineages in the Americas, and using a "molecular clock" that tracks the rate of mutations in DNA, dates some of them back as far as 25,000 or 30,000 years ago. Some seem to originate in southeastern Siberia, while one seems to have links with a relatively rare lineage found in a few modern Europeans.

AINU ARE TALLER THAN JAPANESE, SAY WHITE INDUSTRIALISTS LIVING IN JAPAN


The Ainu are the predecessors of the Japanese. They are a little taller than the latter and inclined to hairiness; they appear to have Caucasian affinities.


In spite of what Professor Frederick Starr, anthropologist of the University of Chicago, has said that "the Ainos of Yezo, Japan are small, on an average, a little over three feet tall," the Ainos average in height from 4 feet 11 inches to 5 feet 1 inch, and are therefore not dwarfs.


I was greatly surprised to find the Ainu much taller and heavier than the Japanese, having supposed that they were dwarfish. Pure Japanese men average five feet two inches, the women five feet; pure Ainu, five feet four inches and five feet two inches.

NATIVE AMERICANS AND AINU ARE PURE CAUCASOID

http://www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/braceos.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/5/6292648_bf9f60fc06_b.jpg

STINKY BROWN JAPANESE, GO HOME TO KOREA AND CLEAN YOUR FILTHY ASS.

The Nordic Imperator
06-28-2014, 03:54 AM
No, it doesn't. You're thinking of ANE (Ancient North Eurasians) as being Mongoloid, when it's been proven they were West Eurasian. Scots f.ex. have higher ANE than Norwegians but still lacks Siberian admix. The Siberian admix in Swedes and Norwegians came from contacts with Saamis, Kvens and Finns, who in turn acquired it from Siberian admixed Uralic tribes.

I am aware of that. Ancient North Eurasians were Caucasoid. Try reading a little more carefully next time because I said this twice.


First you say Finns show little Mongoloid DNA.

Now, you say they have so much Mongoloid DNA.

Well, make up your mind. Or just accept the reality that it's paleolithic shared-ancestor DNA and not recent Mongoloid DNA. It's not even Mongoloid DNA.

ButlerKing
06-28-2014, 07:19 AM
AINU ARE PURE CAUCASOID - - THE ORIGINAL SAMURAI. NEANDERTHAL LINK IDENTIFIED . Brace’s research has strongly influenced the field of biological anthropology in Japan. One area in which he has made a major impact is in supporting a model of Jomon Ainu continuity (Brace and Nagai 1982), and the Ainu Samurai (in this context, the word Samurai represents the inhabitants of the Kanto Plain area around the 14th century) connection via odontometric and craniofacial perspectives (Brace, Brace, and Leonard 1989; Brace and Tracer 1990). The latter has been controversial in Japan, and a public talk entitled Brace’s AinuSamurai Hypothesis from 1989 Until Today was presented by one of us (Seguchi) at the 2005 Annual Meeting of the Anthropological Society of Nippon, in Yokohama, Japan

In addition to Showing that the Jomon of prehistoric Japan cluster with the Ainu and deserve recognition as their ancestors, Brace’s cranial and dental data demonstrate that the Polynesians also cluster with the Jomon and Ainu, and that Bronze Age Mongolians fit into this cluster along with Northern Plain Native Americans. His data further suggest that there was a northern continuity across the Old World that goes back to pre-modern roots in the Pleistocene, which explains why the Ainu look somewhat like Europeans, as do northern Plains Native Americans and some Polynesians (Brace et al. 2001). Happily, Brace continues to engage in research on the
peopling of the New World.

Hahahahahah Samurai was in 14th century?????


Hahahahahaha:rotfl2:rotfl2:rotfl2 No wonder many people call Brace an amateur :thumb001: ( first he claimed Kennewick man was caucasoid and later claimed he wa Ainu-Polynesian and not Caucasoid, now I bet he be saying " Sorry Samurai dated back in 8th century, even the word dated in 10th century not 14th century ( hahahahaa !!! )

Ainu-Samurai theory not fact. Do you know what a theory means?
If this shit was true than everyone would be learning Samurai was Ainu but as proven Brace was clearly wrong since The Samurai existed from 794 A.D went through a series of stages, Heian Period, Kamakura Period, Muromachi Period.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai

Even the word Samurai had appeared around first part of 10th century not 14th century hahahahaha.

"
Samurai (侍?), usually referred to in Japanese as bushi (武士?, ) or buke (武家?), were the military nobility of medieval and early-modern Japan. According to translator William Scott Wilson: "In Chinese, the character 侍 was originally a verb meaning to wait upon or accompany persons in the upper ranks of society, and this is also true of the original term in Japanese, saburau. In both countries the terms were nominalized to mean "those who serve in close attendance to the nobility," the pronunciation in Japanese changing to saburai. According to Wilson, an early reference to the word "samurai" appears in the Kokin Wakashū (905–914), the first imperial anthology of poems, completed in the first part of the 10th century.[1] "


" By the end of the 12th century, samurai became almost entirely synonymous with bushi, and the word was closely associated with the middle and upper echelons of the warrior class. The samurai followed a set of rules that came to be known as bushidō. While the samurai numbered less than 10% of Japan's population,[2] their teachings can still be found today in both everyday life and in modern Japanese martial arts. "





AINU ARE TALLER THAN JAPANESE, SAY WHITE INDUSTRIALISTS LIVING IN JAPA


And Ainu were shorter and were slaves to the Japanese, say WHITE INDUSTRIALISTS AND TRAVELERS LIVING IN JAPAN, this includes from your own


Did you even read your own source?:embarrassed


In spite of what Professor Frederick Starr, anthropologist of the University of Chicago, has said that [B]"the Ainos of Yezo, Japan are small, on an average, a little over three feet tall," the Ainos average in height from 4 feet 11 inches to 5 feet 1 inch, and are therefore not dwarfs


Hahahahahaha. This just gets funnier and funnier, I must bow down to such a funny fact. :hail::hail::hail:

So the Ainu's of Yezo are even shorter than famous dwarfs of Adaman island. The 4ft 3 to 4ft 6 Adamanese blacks of India? ( they even carries haplogroup D like Ainu surprinsgly ) Hahahaha Ainu's of Yezo are even shorter the dwarfs of Adaman island, so much for Caucasian theory.


Are you sure Ainu are not white negritos dwarfs with haplogroup D?

http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/9753Andamanese-people-608.jpg





Ainu reported being much shorter than Japanese.



Ruins of Identity: Ethnogenesis in the Japanese Islands - Page 78

books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0824821564
Mark Hudson - 1999 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions

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" Phenotypical similarities between the Okinawans and the Ainu were noticed by von Baelz as early as 1911. Compared to the mainland Japanese, both groups tend to be shorter in stature and to have thicker body hair.


Japans Ethnic Ainu People
By: Ruby Ernica Samy


" Ainu people in general are shorter than the Japanese people, with lighter skin, robust body and short limbs.Their hair is wavy and the body hair "




NATIVE AMERICANS AND AINU ARE PURE CAUCASOID



Sorry bro, Native American and Ainu Caucasoid theory have been debunked.









Autosomal DNA. Are there Amerindians who don't look East Asian Mongoloid and still have 0% Caucasoid/European DNA? Yes.



Look at the Pima. As you can see 0% European. However genetically they have 70% Amerindian which reaches 100% in south Amerindians and 30% Siberian which reaches 100% in east siberian Mongoloid

http://signaturebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dna2.jpg


And yet they still look like this.



NATIVE AMERICANS WITH 0% CAUCASOID / EUROPEAN DNA

AND STILL LOOK LIKE THIS


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Pima.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QSwkPo4ekYs/T4CFvQgzrzI/AAAAAAAAG9A/8jveTN6O0AY/s640/Pima+Indian+Reservation+Police.jpg

ButlerKing
06-28-2014, 07:37 AM
I am aware of that. Ancient North Eurasians were Caucasoid. Try reading a little more carefully next time because I said this twice.


Ukrainian and Russian anthropologist founds of Mongoloid and Part Mongoloid men with Caucasoid women:rolleyes: burried in western siberia And claimed there had been a eastern invasion of Caucasian territory.

The same people who later became ancestors of Finns and mixed with Caucasoid women

Finns to think of these Saami as their relatives are 24 - 27% Mongoloid in many study.


facial reconstruction


( Russian translation to English)

The closest analogy to the skull early Finno-Ugric peoples are found in the burial Fofanova in the Baikal region (6th millennium BC)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2w40mm9.jpg

FACE OF ANTHROPOLOGY

There has been an act of invasion of the Finno-Ugric peoples of Eastern origin in the territory inhabited by Caucasians. Dnieper-Donets culture has developed Caucasians, after which it mingled with the Finno-Ugric tribes. This is confirmed by the data from the repository and Yasinovatka, which (like the Vasiljevka II) is the most ancient among the other cemeteries of the Dnieper-Donets culture. Moreover, it contains the burial of non-simultaneity and divide the period of 500 years (between A and B).

Since culture comb-ceramic spread anthropological type, bearing the features of a "relaxed Mongoloid." In the anthropological literature, it is named laponoidnogo. From the point of view of anthropologists, "there is every reason to believe that the origin of anthropological traits media cultures comb-ceramics associated with the eastern parts of Russia." In particular, male and female skulls from graves 19 and 20 (Sahtysh II), belonging to the comb-culture and dating con. 4th - early. 3rd millennium BC. e. have pronounced Mongoloid appearance - "brain structure of the skull, face and horizontal profile morphology of the nose in two sahtyshskih skulls undoubtedly confirm their membership of the Mongoloid race. "

The Nordic Imperator
06-28-2014, 07:46 AM
Those aren't ancient North Eureasians; we are referring to Eurasians of +20,000 years ago. Odd how you are obsessed with the (imagined) possibility that Mongoloid males ever married White females in those times. A very strange obsession.

Samurai are depicted in Edo era as Jomon. Because they were Ainu. Hairy Caucasoid.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2yvwjz8.jpg

Äijä
06-28-2014, 09:03 AM
Ukrainian and Russian anthropologist founds of Mongoloid and Part Mongoloid men with Caucasoid women:rolleyes: burried in western siberia And claimed there had been a eastern invasion of Caucasian territory.

The same people who later became ancestors of Finns and mixed with Caucasoid women

Finns to think of these Saami as their relatives are 24 - 27% Mongoloid in many study.


facial reconstruction


( Russian translation to English)

The closest analogy to the skull early Finno-Ugric peoples are found in the burial Fofanova in the Baikal region (6th millennium BC)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2w40mm9.jpg

FACE OF ANTHROPOLOGY

There has been an act of invasion of the Finno-Ugric peoples of Eastern origin in the territory inhabited by Caucasians. Dnieper-Donets culture has developed Caucasians, after which it mingled with the Finno-Ugric tribes. This is confirmed by the data from the repository and Yasinovatka, which (like the Vasiljevka II) is the most ancient among the other cemeteries of the Dnieper-Donets culture. Moreover, it contains the burial of non-simultaneity and divide the period of 500 years (between A and B).

Since culture comb-ceramic spread anthropological type, bearing the features of a "relaxed Mongoloid." In the anthropological literature, it is named laponoidnogo. From the point of view of anthropologists, "there is every reason to believe that the origin of anthropological traits media cultures comb-ceramics associated with the eastern parts of Russia." In particular, male and female skulls from graves 19 and 20 (Sahtysh II), belonging to the comb-culture and dating con. 4th - early. 3rd millennium BC. e. have pronounced Mongoloid appearance - "brain structure of the skull, face and horizontal profile morphology of the nose in two sahtyshskih skulls undoubtedly confirm their membership of the Mongoloid race. "

Did the skulls speak Uralic? Maybe come back when you have DNA evidence.
You do understand that some Russians have motivations to display Uralic as originally invaders from outside Europe.

ButlerKing
06-28-2014, 10:47 AM
Those aren't ancient North Eureasians; we are referring to Eurasians of +20,000 years ago. Odd how you are obsessed with the (imagined) possibility that Mongoloid males ever married White females in those times. A very strange obsession.


Strange obsession? you can deny all you want but what I read and learn shows you are wrong and in-denial as much as finns. Finns have 5 - 12% Mongoloid and a North Russians have 4 - 14% Mongoloid blood. A few percent may trace from ancient origin but the rest are definitely from Uralic males mixing with Caucasoids women. I enjoy the fact how finns are in-denial.

Besides this is nothing new anyway, much burials reveals this.

Pazyryk culture in South siberia, Altay



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazyryk_burials

" Craniological studies of samples from the Pazyryk burials revealed the presence of both Mongoloid and Caucasoid components in this population.[6] quoting G. F. Debets on the physical characteristics of the population in the Pazyryk kurgans, records a mixed population. The men would seem to be part Mongoloid and the women Europoid.[7]



In western Siberia

" They found males that were mixed Mongoloid and with striking central Asian features ranging those from Part Mongols to full Mongols where as females were Uralic Caucasoid mix types "


English translation

" Reconstruction of the mounds number 5, 6 show burial Stone Barn in racial make women Ural mixed type, men - striking features of Central Asian Mongoloid."


Mongoloid man with small caucasian admix

http://www.imageup.ru/img195/1641901/tyurk1.jpg

Caucasoid women with small mongoloid admix

http://www.imageup.ru/img195/1641909/f-u1.jpg






Samurai are depicted in Edo era as Jomon. Because they were Ainu. Hairy Caucasoid.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2yvwjz8.jpg



Japanese in every historical record never described the Samurai's a looking like Ainu or hairy barbarians. Ainu was described being crazy hairy like monkeys, with long beards reaching far below their shoulders.


He doesn't even look any more hairy than this guy. Japanese people do have little jomon genes which would have gave them hairy genes like this.

Hairy feet and beard

http://www.gokpop.com/i1/artists/hero/1/57-tigerjk-8bzd.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu45nmuHFP1qcu3u6.jpg




Japanese was also described as being more hairy than other Asians but nowhere near as hairy as Ainu



Comparing that picture to Ainu is like a child vs a adult because they are nowhere near hairy on same level.

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ainu-People-2.jpg
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ainuman.jpg

Kiyant
06-28-2014, 11:02 AM
I never thought i would find a guy that is more pathetic then ButlerKing but thanks Nordic Imperator you are much more pathetic then him

The Nordic Imperator
06-28-2014, 11:22 AM
Mongoloid man with small caucasian admix

http://www.imageup.ru/img195/1641901/tyurk1.jpg

Caucasoid women with small mongoloid admix

http://www.imageup.ru/img195/1641909/f-u1.jpg

All northern Europeans have "small Mongoloid admix", including Norwegians, it is not Mongoloid DNA and it is not Mongoloid features they are Upper Paleolithic European features.

Finns are haplogroup U5, tracing its origins to Europe in the middle paleolithic.


The age of U5 is estimated at 30-50,000 years.[51] Approximately 11% of total Europeans and 10% of European-Americans are in haplogroup U5. In 'The Seven Daughters of Eve', this haplogroup, as well as Haplogroup U in general, is labelled 'Clan Ursula'. Haplogroup U5 is believed to be the oldest single branch of Haplogroup U, hence the sharing of the 'Ursula' designation by both groups. Because of that, it is widely believed that it was this branch who then interbred with another ancient European race, the Neanderthals themselves.

U5 has been found in human remains dating from the Mesolithic in England, Germany, Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Russia,[52] Sweden,[53] France [54] and Spain. [55] Haplogroup U5 and its subclades U5a and U5b form the highest population concentrations in the far north, in Sami, Finns, and Estonians, but it is spread widely at lower levels throughout Europe. This distribution, and the age of the haplogroup, indicate individuals from this haplogroup were part of the initial expansion tracking the retreat of ice sheets from Europe around 10.000 years ago.


Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements.[38] Niskanen, Markku. The Origin of the Baltic-Finns from the Physical Anthropological Point of View (PDF). Retrieved 2009-06-23.









Japanese in every historical record never described the Samurai's a looking like Ainu or hairy barbarians

The picture I posted proved you are wrong.


Ainu was described being crazy hairy like monkeys, with long beards reaching far below their shoulders.

The picture I posted shows a man with "crazy hair" on his hands, fingers and arms, something no Japanese has.

Compare his body hair to this Ainu

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kXmBwdf24KU/R4_fBeZcOwI/AAAAAAAAAAM/NWnWcOm-Ptw/s320/ainu.jpg


He doesn't even look any more hairy than this guy. Japanese people do have little jomon genes which would have gave them hairy genes like this.


Hairy feet and beard


http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu45nmuHFP1qcu3u6.jpg[/quote]

First of all, you are a liar, that is Tiger JK and he is Korean, not Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_JK

Second, he takes corticosteroids for his transverse myelitis, which gives him his hairy appearance. He would not be hairy if he were not taking corticosteroids. Face it, you are wrong, Ainu were Samurai and nothing is ever going to change that - - not even claiming Koreans as Japanese.

Luovatus
06-28-2014, 11:40 AM
Strange obsession? you can deny all you want but what I read and learn shows you are wrong and in-denial as much as finns. Finns have 5 - 12%goloid Mon and a North Russians have 4 - 14% Mongoloid blood. A few percent may trace from ancient origin but the rest are definitely from Uralic males mixing with Caucasoids women. I enjoy the fact how finns are in-denial.


In denial ? And what that might mean iyo? As a 100% proud Finn like myself, I would just love to read more about this denial-theory of yours... LOL

ButlerKing
06-28-2014, 11:52 AM
All northern Europeans have "small Mongoloid admix", including Norwegians, it is not Mongoloid DNA and it is not Mongoloid features they are Upper Paleolithic European features.

Finns are haplogroup U5, tracing its origins to Europe in the middle paleolithic.

All Northern Europeans have small Mongoloid except Finns and Russians have 5x more.

Of course Finns maternal DNA trace back to U5, where as their paternal DNA are mostly Mongoloid.






The picture I posted proved you are wrong.



Ando Tadanobu

http://37.media.tumblr.com/d1e32db4223bff241850545eccb03e36/tumblr_mwy7nyHHhm1qff9zuo2_1280.jpg




The picture I posted shows a man with "crazy hair" on his hands, fingers and arms, something no Japanese has.

Compare his body hair to this Ainu

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kXmBwdf24KU/R4_fBeZcOwI/AAAAAAAAAAM/NWnWcOm-Ptw/s320/ainu.jpg


This guy have beard that is 5 x longer than the picture you posted. Nowhere close and same.




First of all, you are a liar, that is Tiger JK and he is Korean, not Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_JK

Second, he takes corticosteroids for his transverse myelitis, which gives him his hairy appearance. He would not be hairy if he were not taking corticosteroids. Face it, you are wrong, Ainu were Samurai and nothing is ever going to change that - - not even claiming Koreans as Japanese.


WHOAH? So he is not Japanese and still have hairy beard and hairy legs? this just proves You don't even need Jomon genes to be hairy let alone Japanese who have 7- 20%

And by the way he doesn't take corticosteroids and neither is he gay. he is married to a blasian women, it is you who is indenial that you would say the stupidest things to deny these reality.

Korean men more hairy than that picture, were they taking corticosteroids too?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/5393465647_9afe78febf_m.jpg


Nothing is going the change the fact that Ainu, emishi, jomon were considered barbarians and foreigners, they were ruled by Japanese 1200 years, this is fact. SO CUT THE CRAP.

If Ainu were samurai's why had they been slaves for thousand years?


Nothing can change the fact the Europeans who travel to Japan and witness the Ainu enslavement and displacement by the hands of Japanese.

Lemminkäinen
06-28-2014, 12:55 PM
Strange obsession? you can deny all you want but what I read and learn shows you are wrong and in-denial as much as finns. Finns have 5 - 12% Mongoloid and a North Russians have 4 - 14% Mongoloid blood. A few percent may trace from ancient origin but the rest are definitely from Uralic males mixing with Caucasoids women. I enjoy the fact how finns are in-denial.



It depends on to whom Finns are compared. Maybe at most 12% if compared to inbred islanders beloging 100% to the male line R1b, but 0-5% if compared to neighbors.

Rugevit
06-28-2014, 01:55 PM
All Northern Europeans have small Mongoloid except Finns and Russians have 5x more.



The higher percentage of Siberian admixture in one Russian population circulating around is from the HGDP sample. The sample was collected in northern Vologda region. Vologda region of Russia has a large number of blondes.

These are people from north-eastern Vologda region. Some of them look Finnic. Siberian /Mongoloid admixture == blondism. ;)



http://www.fresher.ru/images4/vymirayushhie-russkie-derevni/32.jpg

http://www.fresher.ru/images4/vymirayushhie-russkie-derevni/36.jpg

http://www.fresher.ru/images4/vymirayushhie-russkie-derevni/40.jpg

http://www.fresher.ru/images4/vymirayushhie-russkie-derevni/24.jpg

Amadou
06-30-2014, 05:59 AM
All Northern Europeans have small Mongoloid except Finns and Russians have 5x more.

Of course Finns maternal DNA trace back to U5, where as their paternal DNA are mostly Mongoloid.

No, they are paternally and maternally U5. They have no Mongoloid paternal DNA and U5 isn't even Mongoloid.








Ando Tadanobu

http://37.media.tumblr.com/d1e32db4223bff241850545eccb03e36/tumblr_mwy7nyHHhm1qff9zuo2_1280.jpg

[/quote]

Again, you lie. You are a liar with no shame. That man's name is Asano Tadanobu and he has a White American grandfather. He's mixed. All you ever do is post pictures of mixed people. Only an Asian with White DNA can grow hair on his torso.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadanobu_Asano






WHOAH? So he is not Japanese and still have hairy beard and hairy legs? this just proves You don't even need Jomon genes to be hairy let alone Japanese who have 7- 20%

And by the way he doesn't take corticosteroids and neither is he gay. he is married to a blasian women, it is you who is indenial that you would say the stupidest things to deny these reality.

Korean men more hairy than that picture, were they taking corticosteroids too?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/5393465647_9afe78febf_m.jpg



This photo was taken in Dague Korea in 1970. Dague was a hotbed of Mongol activity in Korea back in the 1200s, so those guys are mixed, and have Caucasoid DNA.

You said that Japanese only have their alleged facial and body hair because they have Jomon DNA. Obviously Koreans don't have any Jomon DNA. Tiger JK takes corticosteroids for his transverse myeltitis, just like everyone else who has it. He may even take anabolic steroids. He got busted for meth possession a while back so he's obviously a drug dealer.

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 11:56 AM
No, they are paternally and maternally U5. They have no Mongoloid paternal DNA and U5 isn't even Mongoloid.

There is no paternal U5 DNA. Finns on the map shows

55% Mongoloid Y-DNA / East Eurasian with 0.5% Mongoloid MTDNA / East Eurasian

45% Caucasoid Y-DNA / Western Eurasian with 99.5% Caucasoid mtDNA / Western Eurasian.


Which explains why Finns are only 5 - 12% Mongoloid, adding to the fact that historically the people gave these Finns Mongoloid DNA were part Mongoloid / part Caucasian males. The study is from the " Science of nature and journal " . These are studies done by European scientists on genetic of Finns.

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v16/n10/images/ejhg2008101f1.jpg








Ando Tadanobu

http://37.media.tumblr.com/d1e32db4223bff241850545eccb03e36/tumblr_mwy7nyHHhm1qff9zuo2_1280.jpg



Again, you lie. You are a liar with no shame. That man's name is Asano Tadanobu and he has a White American grandfather. He's mixed. All you ever do is post pictures of mixed people. Only an Asian with White DNA can grow hair on his torso.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadanobu_Asano




No you are the freaking liar. What kind of Japanese have a name like Asano Tadanobu and have white american grandfather?


Where on wikipedia does it say he has white american grandfather.








This photo was taken in Dague Korea in 1970. Dague was a hotbed of Mongol activity in Korea back in the 1200s, so those guys are mixed, and have Caucasoid DNA.

You said that Japanese only have their alleged facial and body hair because they have Jomon DNA. Obviously Koreans don't have any Jomon DNA. Tiger JK takes corticosteroids for his transverse myeltitis, just like everyone else who has it. He may even take anabolic steroids. He got busted for meth possession a while back so he's obviously a drug dealer.


Koreans are pure Mongoloid in DNA. Haven't you seen the chart?

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 11:59 AM
KOREANS ARE PURE MONGOLOID RACE

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Mongolians have 5 - 19% Caucasian DNA came with 14.7% Caucasian maternal + 7% Caucasian paternal

Japanese have 37% Jomon Y-DNA with 14% Jomon mtDNA, so why wouldn't be more hairy?


Besides if Turkish people are more Mongoloid than than Mongolian are Caucasoid

http://i50.tinypic.com/2inluu.jpg

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Koreans and Chinese are pure Mongoloid race.



Mongolians have 5 - 19% Caucasian DNA because of 14.7% Caucasian maternal mtDNA and 7% Caucasian paternal Y-DNA


Japanese have 38% Jomon Y-DNA and 14% Jomon mtDNA so why wouldn't be more hairy than say Koreans?

Also Turkmen can be from 20 - 58% Mongoloid and 42 - 80% Caucasoid and yet many aren't that hairy although many also are including the very mongoloid looking ones

DNA of Mongolians are almost pure Mongoloid


From this chart

Eastern Mongolians are from 91-99% East Eurasian
Western Mongolians are 85-81% East Eurasian


http://i43.tinypic.com/142vn6x.jpg


Turkish 97 - 80% West Eurasian


http://i39.tinypic.com/scvznr.png

templumForasticus
07-01-2014, 12:18 PM
I am not going to read those tomes.

Do a recap.

nidaman
07-01-2014, 12:19 PM
asano tadanobu are typical japanese

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 12:37 PM
asano tadanobu are typical japanese


THIS IS TRUE

ButlerKing
07-01-2014, 12:56 PM
Yeah, there are so many of them with these traits. Nothing can change this fact is 100% true.

And this guy is half Taiwanese half Japanese

http://chinesemov.com/images/actors/takeshi-kaneshiro-1.jpg

Truth Defender
07-01-2014, 02:56 PM
No you are the freaking liar. What kind of Japanese have a name like Asano Tadanobu and have white american grandfather?


Where on wikipedia does it say he has white american grandfather.



Now you're just being pathetic.


Asano was born in the Honmoku area[1] of Yokohama to artist Yukihisa Satō (佐藤 幸久 Satō Yukihisa?)[1] and mother Junko (順子) whose father was Willard Overing, a U.S. citizen, whom Asano never met.[1] He has Norwegian and Dutch ancestry through this grandfather.[2] Asano has an older brother Kujun Satō, born in 1971,[3] who is a musician and a partner in Anore Inc., a talent agency Asano and their father Yukihisa Satō founded.

Meet Tadanobu Asano's grandfather, Willard Overing, a White American.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HcE8zUt_Bfk/TqLlGLlq5KI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HSttiaUpEX4/s1600/100_0009c.jpg

http://nozawa22.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2012/01/28/4255.jpg

Tadanobu blond hair

http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/007/139/57/N000/000/006/131242968755813215953.JPG


Koreans are not purely Mongoloid, they mixed with the Mongols who were not pure Mongoloid. Your charts and images are bullshit, Mongoloids usually do not grow facial hair without Caucasoid DNA, you are a butthurt, insecure Jap with Little Brown Dick Syndrome.

ButlerKing
07-02-2014, 06:54 AM
Now you're just being pathetic.



Meet Tadanobu Asano's grandfather, Willard Overing, a White American.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HcE8zUt_Bfk/TqLlGLlq5KI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HSttiaUpEX4/s1600/100_0009c.jpg

http://nozawa22.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2012/01/28/4255.jpg

Tadanobu blond hair

http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/007/139/57/N000/000/006/131242968755813215953.JPG





LOL, someone just edited that wikipedia shit a while ago. Yesterday I didn't see any of that crap so it has to be you, you sneaky !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



His grandfather is actually part Native American / part white

Grandfather's name is Jim Owens.

-----------> Source http://asianwiki.com/Tadanobu_Asano


What about Hong Kong actor Louis Koo


http://nimg.sulekha.com/entertainment/original700/louis-koo-2011-4-23-11-1-19.jpg

Tibetan are mixed too? There are long beards in every Asian ethnic group and in every. You are too dumb and bias to realized this. Specially since we all know every or almost every Japanese have Jomon admixture, beard had never been a caucasoid trait. There's no science that say it is since it exist in every ethnic group alive.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3418/3847180531_1a22d84b2e.jpg




Koreans are not purely Mongoloid, they mixed with the Mongols who were not pure Mongoloid. Your charts and images are bullshit, Mongoloids usually do not grow facial hair without Caucasoid DNA, you are a butthurt, insecure Jap with Little Brown Dick Syndrome.

Yet DNA shows they are pure Mongoloid and even if there was any Caucasoid DNA in Koreans it be less than 0.1% but any charts shown them to be 100% pure Mongoloid with 0% Caucasian DNA.

If Koreans aren't pure Mongoloid, hell most Europeans are far from pure caucasoid. These not Asian charts but many Europedia forums. Countless DNA results shows them with such admixture.

Turkish are only 95 - 77% Caucasoid
North Russians are only 96 - 86% Caucasoid
Finns are only 94 - 88% Caucasoid

The average Turk is 5-10% Mongoloid and 10-15% Mongoloid
The average South Russian 5-10% Mongoloid and North Russian 10-15%
The average west Finns are 5-10% Mongoloid and East Finns 10-15% Mongoloid.

Although Turkish have some individuals with more than 20-23% Mongoloid admixture.

LOL Turkish were so mixed in the past one can say that the Ottoman empire was a Mongoloid/Caucasoid empire who ruled Caucasoid people for 600 years especially since they were more mixed with Mongoloid before 1923.


http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

SHIT, you are freaking moron. Mongols Caucasoid admixture was way to small for them to many impact on Koreans. Hell even Turkish Mongoloid impact was more influential in Europe but even that's little. Koreans and Japanese are pure Mongoloid where as Turkish are not only unpure but are considered mixed. Turkish looked so mixed before ( adsorbing millions of non-Turkish migrants ) that anthropologist had to considered them mix race where as Mongolians didn't even qualify for it.


Anthropology


" In 1882 Augustus Henry Keane said the Mongolic type included the following races: Tibetans, Burmese, Tai, Koreans, Japanese, Lu-Chu, Finno-Tatars and Malays.[145] Keane said the following peoples are mixed Mongolo-Caucasic varieties: Anatolian Turks, Uzbegs, and Tajiks of Turkestan.[145] Keane said the Kazaks are intermediate between the Túrki and Mongolian races.[145] Keane said the Mongolian race is best represented by the Buriats.[145] "


Koreans are 100x more pure than any Turkish , Finns, North Russians.

LOL you're freaking bullshit and dumbass moron I know. it's like saying white people can't have slanty eyes without Asian admixture or can't have high cheek bones without Asian admixture. Or every white person with curly hair is the result of Black admixture .

Eolith
07-02-2014, 08:24 AM
Butlerking = Sore Loser

ButlerKing
07-02-2014, 08:32 AM
Butlerking = Sore Loser

You don't fool me, you're that same psycho that always comes back with with different accounts.