How come women aren't scared of lesbianism in the way that lots of men are scared of homosexuality?

[Tooting Carmen]

From my experience, women are nothing like as scared and paranoid about lesbianism as many men are about homosexuality. Some women even kiss their friends and get intimate with them to turn on their husbands and boyfriends. Moreover, much of 'straight' porn consists of endless lesbian sex, whereas the men in the films seldom even touch each other.

[Melina]

From my experience, women are nothing like as scared and paranoid about lesbianism as many men are about homosexuality. Some women even kiss their friends and get intimate with them to turn on their husbands and boyfriends. Moreover, much of 'straight' porn consists of endless lesbian sex, whereas the men in the films seldom even touch each other.

You are watching way to much porn. Women "touch" each by holding hands,hugging and kissing in the cheeks but that doesn't always translate to sexual desire. Plus most lesbians I see are very ugly. I am not talking beauty is is in the eye of the beholder kind of ugly either. They try every effort to look the worst as possible. I don't get the logic of being a lesbian when you want to be with a girl that looks like a man. But yes me personally there are fears towards them since they look more aggressive than men generally.

[Chrissi]

What's there to be scared of? I wouldnt even be scared if I went to prison. I feel like most women are somewhat bi. Im not a lesbian but I wouldnt rule it out either. Its also that female friendships especially best friends are very close anyway as you mentioned. Gay and lesbian isn't the same neither are male and female friendships

[LightHouse89]

I have never seen a hot lesbian.

[KeinMitleid]

Because women have a somewhat bisexual nature.

[Melina]

What's there to be scared of? I wouldnt even be scared if I went to prison. I feel like most women are somewhat bi. Im not a lesbian but I wouldnt rule it out either. Its also that female friendships especially best friends are very close anyway as you mentioned. Gay and lesbian isn't the same neither are male and female friendships

I wouldn't say that....

[Petry]

Perhaps they are more confident than men.

[Yehiel]

girls are known for there rebellious nature, especially in this time of femenism they think they are making a statement

[Fedex]

In my personal experience normal women really hate lesbians and think they are disgusting. Only in porn they don't.

[Dictator]

People who are sure of their sexuality are never scared of looking something else because they know that they aren't and they don't give fucks to what other people think.

[Fedex]

People who are sure of their sexuality are never scared of looking something else because they know that they aren't and they don't give fucks to what other people think.

I'm sure about my sexuality, but I don't like to see gay men kissing each other and gay parades because they are fucking disgusting. I'm heterosexual and I don't go around waving my dick and saying "I LIKE WOMEN, I WANT TO FUCK WOMEN".

[silver_surfer]

You are watching way to much porn. Women "touch" each by holding hands,hugging and kissing in the cheeks but that doesn't always translate to sexual desire. Plus most lesbians I see are very ugly. I am not talking beauty is is in the eye of the beholder kind of ugly either. They try every effort to look the worst as possible. I don't get the logic of being a lesbian when you want to be with a girl that looks like a man. But yes me personally there are fears towards them since they look more aggressive than men generally.


Maybe theres a link between the way you dress and power. Since they are not trying to attract men, lesbians have less motivation to dress up in the ways that men historically have found attractive. Feminine clothing doesn't reflect power, we've all internalized that belief. If you are a woman dressed in pink from head to toes, you won't be taken seriously.
My point being that maybe lesbians are attracted to the "power" of butch (masculine) women. The clothes are only the surface but it's what they represent that matters?

[Mason8]

Men in America have grown up learning to be scared of gayness. But not only for the reasons we typically think—not only, in the end, because of religion, insecurity about their own sexuality, or a visceral aversion to other men’s penises. The truth is, they’re afraid because heterosexuality is so fragile.

[LightHouse89]

Men in America have grown up learning to be scared of gayness. But not only for the reasons we typically think—not only, in the end, because of religion, insecurity about their own sexuality, or a visceral aversion to other men’s penises. The truth is, they’re afraid because heterosexuality is so fragile.

homosexuality is really not apart of North Western European culture and even before christianity was seen as a bad thing....until fruit cakes really took over America in washington did this odd unnatural and depraved behavior become politicized. 100 years ago homosexuality in the Americas was un heard of.

[Lusos]

girls are known for there rebellious nature, especially in this time of femenism they think they are making a statement

they are ??

[Hàkon]

Male appreciation of (the visual aspect of) female-on-female sexual relations is a contributing factor; praised to a degree, and therefore not altogether rejected.

[Aviator]

Since when did being disgusted with something start equating to being scared of something? I'm repulsed by homosexuality in the same way I am repulsed by putrid meat or the smell of feces. But I am neither scared of rotten meat nor feces.

[TheBlondeSalad]

I didn't have a problem with lesbians before because I never actually knew any. Then, I found out that one of my friends (kind of) is a lesbian, and I've noticed how she's constantly posting sexualised images of women on social media and it just seems like all she's interested in is the sexual aspect, rather than the emotional side to it. I've also noticed how persistent and stubborn she is when it comes to straight girls.

It makes me really angry how lesbians think that they can just force their sexuality onto straight girls just because a minority of straight girls are comfortable kissing each other on the cheeks etc, and also they think that it's acceptable to objectify women just because they themselves are female, not male.
I wouldn't say that I'm scared of lesbians, I just dislike the ones who don't understand that there are boundaries, and that liking women doesn't make them superior to straight males nor does it give them any extra privileges.

[Armand_Duval]

If I were a woman I believe I would be a lesbian...:icon_smile:

[Melina]

If I were a woman I believe I would be a lesbian...:icon_smile:

You may say that now because you have a dick. But I will talk for myself since I am straight. Don't get me wrong I love my "down there". I just can not imagine myself going down on a woman. It repulses me to the extent of making me throw up. The "sliminess" is just disgusting.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I didn't have a problem with lesbians before because I never actually knew any. Then, I found out that one of my friends (kind of) is a lesbian, and I've noticed how she's constantly posting sexualised images of women on social media and it just seems like all she's interested in is the sexual aspect, rather than the emotional side to it. I've also noticed how persistent and stubborn she is when it comes to straight girls.

It makes me really angry how lesbians think that they can just force their sexuality onto straight girls just because a minority of straight girls are comfortable kissing each other on the cheeks etc, and also they think that it's acceptable to objectify women just because they themselves are female, not male.
I wouldn't say that I'm scared of lesbians, I just dislike the ones who don't understand that there are boundaries, and that liking women doesn't make them superior to straight males nor does it give them any extra privileges.


I know other women who feel this way, so the OPs question isnt all that factually based.

[Armand_Duval]

You may say that now because you have a dick. But I will talk for myself since I am straight. Don't get me wrong I love my "down there". I just can not imagine myself going down on a woman. It repulses me to the extent of making me throw up. The "sliminess" is just disgusting.

I couldn't be a woman because I think the same about going down to a male's thing....:nono::bullet puke

[armenianbodyhair]

my brain has more important things to focus on.

[wvwvw]

http://img3.owned.com/media/images/1/9/0/5/19050/movies_vs_reality_in_movies_540.jpg

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

http://img3.owned.com/media/images/1/9/0/5/19050/movies_vs_reality_in_movies_540.jpg

That pretty much sums it up. Walking through the Village in NYC you see real lesbians and it ain't a pretty sight. The chicks in pornos who do girl on girl scenes aren't typically lesbians. They're bisexual.

Ellen Page is attractive, tho, but it's not the norm for lesbians, IMO.

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Ellen-Page--Juno--ellen-page-529020_1200_1800.jpg

[Chrissi]

You all are so ignorant and nasty:picard2:

[caviezel]

I suppose it's because lesbian sex isn't as traumatic as gay men sex is, unless you use a phallic belt to buttplug your lesbian partner but I imagine that to be a rare instance.

[Sexual Eruption]

We should love eachother men or women there should be only love because love is most important thing

[zhaoyun]

From my experience, women are nothing like as scared and paranoid about lesbianism as many men are about homosexuality. Some women even kiss their friends and get intimate with them to turn on their husbands and boyfriends. Moreover, much of 'straight' porn consists of endless lesbian sex, whereas the men in the films seldom even touch each other.

Well, I think there are a multitude of reasons. But the primary overruling reason is that lesbian sex between two hot nubile sex goddesses is just way hotter than gay sex.

[zhaoyun]

That pretty much sums it up. Walking through the Village in NYC you see real lesbians and it ain't a pretty sight. The chicks in pornos who do girl on girl scenes aren't typically lesbians. They're bisexual.

Ellen Page is attractive, tho, but it's not the norm for lesbians, IMO.

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Ellen-Page--Juno--ellen-page-529020_1200_1800.jpg

True. Despite the fantasies, most lesbian couples I see are a combination of Ellen Degeneres with Roseanne Barr.

[Herr Abubu]

I didn't have a problem with lesbians before because I never actually knew any. Then, I found out that one of my friends (kind of) is a lesbian, and I've noticed how she's constantly posting sexualised images of women on social media and it just seems like all she's interested in is the sexual aspect, rather than the emotional side to it. I've also noticed how persistent and stubborn she is when it comes to straight girls.

It makes me really angry how lesbians think that they can just force their sexuality onto straight girls just because a minority of straight girls are comfortable kissing each other on the cheeks etc, and also they think that it's acceptable to objectify women just because they themselves are female, not male.
I wouldn't say that I'm scared of lesbians, I just dislike the ones who don't understand that there are boundaries, and that liking women doesn't make them superior to straight males nor does it give them any extra privileges.

Most of these people are broken and want to beat down everyone else to their level.

[Scandalf]

Because a cock in the ass hurts?

[Harley]

I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that men are physically stronger and could potentially force themselves on an unwilling male.

I had this discussion with one of my best friends, who is a young gay male, and that was something he brought up.

Females together still bring this premade idea of soft and tender loving, which is stereotypical of genders. Not all individuals were created equal; the masculine and feminine ratios within each person are differing. For myself, I am a feminine woman with a masculine type of personality.

Taking it back to OP, I think guys could potentially be scared of homosexual males due to the idea of males = aggressiveness on a subconscious level. Double that aggressiveness with an unwilling male participant = danger.

Just an idea.

[Balmung]

Probably because women are supposed to be submissive. So the idea of a submissive male just makes people crazy?

Oh and I guess you've never been around ghetto black chicks they are just like males are with gays when it comes to lesbianism.

[Harley]

Probably because women are supposed to be submissive. So the idea of a submissive male just makes people crazy?

Oh and I guess you've never been around ghetto black chicks they are just like males are with gays when it comes to lesbianism.

I don't know if this is in response to my post. I think the term "ghetto" refers to the type of mindset they're in anyway and how not to expect much seriousness out of them when it comes in terms of a seemingly complex sexual issue?

In terms of identity, a woman who identifies as "ghetto black chick" is light years away from approaching homosexuality in a calm and collected manner.

[Óttar]

Because women have a somewhat bisexual nature.
I think it's because there is less stigma attached to lesbianism. When a man is homosexual or shows weakness, his masculinity is called into question. It is impossible for a woman to lose femininity to a comparable extent in society.

[Felix Volkbein]

People forgot an important one: diseases.

For heterosexual relations, female selectivity acts as a check on male promiscuity. But among homosexual men, this check is removed, and so it comes as no surprise that homosexual men are the most promiscuous of all groups.

Add to this the fact that homosexual men are particularly inclined to engage in unprotected sex, and that diseases are transmitted more easily through anal sex (lesbians can't engage in anal sex through natural means), and voila, you get the exponentially higher STD rate among gay men.

Since I'm fairly certain these propensities hold throughout various times and places, it's plausible that a more visceral disgust towards homosexual men evolved among heterosexual men as a way of avoiding disease.

[Óttar]

Since I'm fairly certain these propensities hold throughout various times and places, it's plausible that a more visceral disgust towards homosexual men evolved among heterosexual men as a way of avoiding disease.
In ancient times, there was no stigma attached to being the active partner. There was stigma however for the passive receiver. This probably evolved because patriarchal tribes couldn't afford to have men acting weak and effeminate as it left them vulnerable to other groups of men. The imposition of Abrahamic religion on Europeans led to a condemnation of all homosexual activity. It may also have to do with the preoccupation with being prolific in sons in patriarchal societies. As homosexuals don't have children they are seen as not fulfilling their duty to the tribe.

[Unome]

Because female homosexuality is non-threatening…

[Sky earth]

Women are generally more gay friendly and accepting towards homosexuality compared to men.

[Odin]

Women enjoy having a "gay best friend", and a lot support homosexual couples. And of course, there is the undeniable fact, that a lot of guys are turned on by 2 girls together, me being one of them. :laugh:

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[rein]

That’s a bit of a stereotype that women approve of lesbianism.

[Óttar]

Because male dominance hierarchies function differently from female hierarchies. To engage in effeminate behavior for a male is (according to the logic of patriarchal societies) to make oneself and others susceptible to attacks from invaders and groups of rival males. I don't think that females are more likely to have fluid sexualities by nature, but I believe that a taboo against male homosexuality is so strict in "traditional" societies that this precludes men from having the same degree of fluid sexuality. There are also theories about women engaging in homosexual behavior because they are under the authority of an alpha male i.e. members of his harem. It may also ensure that bonds among women are strengthened in order to protect their offspring.

[Bobby Martnen]

When I was in high school, I remember girls used to like sit on each others laps and cuddle and stuff. Guys never did that unless they were actually gay.

[Bogdan]

My mother has brought up feeling uncomfortable over women who have been openly lesbian, but only if they seemed interested in her. I don't know. From what I've seen women are very open with one another and affectionate due to their femininity. Heterosexual women seem to be comfortable with different degrees of affection than heterosexual men.

[Bogdan]

Women enjoy having a "gay best friend", and a lot support homosexual couples. And of course, there is the undeniable fact, that a lot of guys are turned on by 2 girls together, me being one of them. :laugh:

I've noticed this and I second that haha

[Richmondbread]

Because gay women don't often go after straight women the way homosexual men prey on men. Lesbians don't meet up at parks and have sex in parks or bathrooms. There is less of a predatory thing with lesbians. Most lesbians are asexual. Probably they were raped or abused and feel safer with other women.

[Dragoon]

Women are more likely to choose "mostly heterosexual (not completely), bisexual, mostly lesbian, and lesbian only" combined than men.

But then they arent putting a certain body part into the wrong place and spreading disease as much.

[Tooting Carmen]

bump

[♥ Lily ♥]

i./ Maybe some men fear being raped (sodomised) by other men. There's been some cases of men (heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, etc,) being gang-raped by groups of gay men.

ii./ Maybe some men were sodomised, molested, or raped by male paedophiles as children to develop a fear of gay men.

[Tooting Carmen]

i./ Maybe some men fear being raped (sodomised) by other men. There's been some cases of men (heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, etc,) being gang-raped by groups of gay men.

ii./ Maybe some men were sodomised, molested, or raped by male paedophiles as children to develop a fear of gay men.

Funny how even in today's 'progressive' and 'woke' society, a lot of people still associate (male) homosexuality with rape and paedophilia!:mad:

[Richmondbread]

Men are naturally repulsed by homosexuals. They will not admit so, because of fear of being labeled "homophobic". One of the tactics from LGBTQ is to shut down any opposition by using such terms, even going so far as to imply that anyone who disapproves of the gay lifestyle must be "in the closet" themselves! All of this is non sense , of course. But studies have shown that straight men are repulsed by the pheromones given off by gays. Gay men are repulsed by the pheromones given off by women, but women are not repulsed by gay men pheromones. Poor Lesbians were left out of these studies.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I've seen a few news cases of men who've been visciously raped by men, but most male victims feel unable to speak out due to feeling ashamed.

A UK soap opera highlighted the problem once by making a distressing scene about a man being gang-raped in his anus and mouth by other men.

Also there's a lot of cases of young boys who've been beaten and sodomised by catholic church priests (who release their sexually oppressed frustrations on boys who they can't impregnate and risk losing their priesthood... and they threaten them with hell if they tell anyone.)

Maybe some homophobic men may be victims of mass homosexual child rape in the catholic churches, and they feel traumatised by it.

[tomásx]

I've seen a few news cases of men who've been visciously raped by men, but most male victims feel unable to speak out due to feeling ashamed.

A UK soap opera highlighted the problem once by making a distressing scene about a man being gang-raped in his anus and mouth by other men.

Also there's a lot of cases of young boys who've been beaten and sodomised by catholic church priests (who release their sexually oppressed frustrations on boys who they can't impregnate and risk losing their priesthood... and they threaten them with hell if they tell anyone.)

Maybe some homophobic men may be victims of mass homosexual child rape in the catholic churches, and they feel traumatised by it.

perhaps some but i'm sure most are just ignorant and bigots

[Blondie]

I'm bisexual and dating with other girl is very hard, i had many awkward moment and nowadays i'm getting a bit scared to try it again. This is bullshit that every girl are latent bisexual or lesbian :crazy:

[PaleoEuropean]

From my experience, women are nothing like as scared and paranoid about lesbianism as many men are about homosexuality. Some women even kiss their friends and get intimate with them to turn on their husbands and boyfriends. Moreover, much of 'straight' porn consists of endless lesbian sex, whereas the men in the films seldom even touch each other.

If it's straight porn then it can't have homosexuality in it.

[PaleoEuropean]

I've seen a few news cases of men who've been visciously raped by men, but most male victims feel unable to speak out due to feeling ashamed.

A UK soap opera highlighted the problem once by making a distressing scene about a man being gang-raped in his anus and mouth by other men.

Also there's a lot of cases of young boys who've been beaten and sodomised by catholic church priests (who release their sexually oppressed frustrations on boys who they can't impregnate and risk losing their priesthood... and they threaten them with hell if they tell anyone.)

Maybe some homophobic men may be victims of mass homosexual child rape in the catholic churches, and they feel traumatised by it.

Very true. I don't think most men are scared of homosexuality, men just view other men as rivals for the most part and therefore aren't as open to bisexuality or homosexuality. When I see a homosexual couple I don't get angry or scared, it honestly has no effect on me, although I don't like public affection by anyone and as long as people are respectful and decent I am willing to tolerate them. My biggest issue is how people bring there life into public (aside from places like dance clubs etc. where it's behind closed doors). I take a very libertarian stance to other people.

[catgeorge]

What people do in their bedrooms isnt anyone's business.

It becomes everyone's business when propaganda gets shoved down everyones throat... that makes a male react as a normal male.

Absolutely ridiculous to believe males are closet pillow biters if they are repulsed by pink fairies wearing make up parading as a woman. Its my natural reaction to first laugh and then ridicule.

[Emperor Caligula]

Homophobia is a primitive belief largly reinforced by cultural indoctrination, dating back to days where fertility and reproduction were absolutely necessary for survival of a small group, and those who could not produce children were providing no return for the group. As for many of these groups, women were not autonomous, their orientation didn't matter, as they were already paired with a man anyways, so there was no need to demonize and discourage them from seeking out same sex partners. Thus, there's no cultural aversion ingrained, at least not to the extent as for men.

[Ethel]

Because there's a culture of masculinity among men that is heavily linked to dignity. A man's masculinity is something untouchable (varies by local and temporal culture) and homosexuality is seen as degrading to that virility. A man who does not fit the standard of masculinity is much more scolded than a woman who does not fit the "femininity standards". This is something you can see in other types of expressions, such as the way you dress, women have a myriad of distinctive clothing and outfit options, which can range from a tomboy to a fairy cosplay, and even so they are unlikely to have their femininity or sexuality questioned.

There is also the fact that in sex between two men, when there is penetration, there is this atmosphere where one is the top, and generally seen as more manly, and the other is the bottom, seen as fragile and submissive. This situation is not prevalent among women.

Note that I didn't talk about "openness" to being bisexual or homosexual, since it's impossible to radically change your sexuality once it is formed through inborn and experiential factors. In this regard, local and temporal culture will only influence how open individuals are to publicly assuming their sexual orientation.

[chociprasa]

Because homosexuality is feminine.

[Richmondbread]

Because there's a culture of masculinity among men that is heavily linked to dignity. A man's masculinity is something untouchable (varies by local and temporal culture) and homosexuality is seen as degrading to that virility. A man who does not fit the standard of masculinity is much more scolded than a woman who does not fit the "femininity standards". This is something you can see in other types of expressions, such as the way you dress, women have a myriad of distinctive clothing and outfit options, which can range from a tomboy to a fairy cosplay, and even so they are unlikely to have their femininity or sexuality questioned.

There is also the fact that in sex between two men, when there is penetration, there is this atmosphere where one is the top, and generally seen as more manly, and the other is the bottom, seen as fragile and submissive. This situation is not prevalent among women.

Note that I didn't talk about "openness" to being bisexual or homosexual, since it's impossible to radically change your sexuality once it is formed through inborn and experiential factors. In this regard, local and temporal culture will only influence how open individuals are to publicly assuming their sexual orientation.

I was agreeing with you up til you said it was an inborn trait. Even scientists say that is not true.

[Richmondbread]

I would like to know why more people are okay with same-sex relationships but they think any kind of age difference is repulsive. For example, 50 year old Johnny Depp with 28 year old Amber Heard. The girl is almost 30 and yet they think Johnny Depp is a creepy old man. Why is that such a big deal? Especially if someone is over 21, it shouldn't matter. Yet same sex relationships? Oh that's "equality". What happened to "love is love"?

[Celestia]

I would like to know why more people are okay with same-sex relationships but they think any kind of age difference is repulsive. For example, 50 year old Johnny Depp with 28 year old Amber Heard. The girl is almost 30 and yet they think Johnny Depp is a creepy old man. Why is that such a big deal? Especially if someone is over 21, it shouldn't matter. Yet same sex relationships? Oh that's "equality". What happened to "love is love"?

Because he could be her father.
The maturity and phases of life are too big of a gap for anything over 10 years in my opinion.
And this is coming from someone who likes to date guys 5-10 years older than myself.

[Richmondbread]

Because he could be her father.
The maturity and phases of life are too big of a gap for anything over 10 years in my opinion.
And this is coming from someone who likes to date guys 5-10 years older than myself.

That is one way of looking at it. But how many people are fathers at 22? Besides that, if they have a lot in common what should age matter? She's a 30 year old woman. Women have a shelf life of reproductive years. She's very much an adult, not an 18 year old young girl.

[KMack]

Most hetero men are not scared by gays. However Gay men will rape hetero men. Known to drop a mickie in someone's drink.
Gay men can't control themselves, that is why Hetero men can't be friends with them.

More than 100,000 men have been sexually assaulted in the military in recent decades.
SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY is a problem widely recognized but poorly understood. Elected officials and Pentagon leaders have tended to focus on the thousands of women who have been preyed upon while in uniform. But over the years, more of the victims have been men.

On average, about 10,000 men are sexually assaulted in the American military each year, according to Pentagon statistics. Overwhelmingly, the victims are young and low-ranking. Many struggle afterward, are kicked out of the military and have trouble finding their footing in civilian life.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/10/us/men-military-sexual-assault.html

[Tooting Carmen]

Most hetero men are not scared by gays. However Gay men will rape hetero men. Known to drop a mickie in someone's drink.
Gay men can't control themselves, that is why Hetero men can't be friends with them.

More than 100,000 men have been sexually assaulted in the military in recent decades.
SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY is a problem widely recognized but poorly understood. Elected officials and Pentagon leaders have tended to focus on the thousands of women who have been preyed upon while in uniform. But over the years, more of the victims have been men.

On average, about 10,000 men are sexually assaulted in the American military each year, according to Pentagon statistics. Overwhelmingly, the victims are young and low-ranking. Many struggle afterward, are kicked out of the military and have trouble finding their footing in civilian life.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/10/us/men-military-sexual-assault.html

In absolute numbers there may be more male victims, but per capita surely there are still more female victims.

[Rumata]

The stigma is much lesser.

[TheOldNorth]

I think this is because you don’t necessarily have to sacrifice your femininity to be a lesbian but in many ways you do have to sacrifice your masculinity to be gay at least in the modern era. Perhaps it’s the good old Roman ideology of being the penetrated one is feminine and being the penetrator as masculine

[Rumata]

I think this is because you don’t necessarily have to sacrifice your femininity to be a lesbian but in many ways you do have to sacrifice your masculinity to be gay at least in the modern era.
Can two feminin women really be a lesbian couple?

[TheOldNorth]

Can two feminin women really be a lesbian couple?

They could be to bi women who are in a lesbian relationship I’ve seen pretty feminine bi women before, not only that but the concepts of being attracted to a woman as a woman is less outside of the norm per se than a man being attracted to a man because of the fact that for women attraction is more psychological than physical.

[Rumata]

They could be to bi women who are in a lesbian relationship I’ve seen pretty feminine bi women before, not only that but the concepts of being attracted to a woman as a woman is less outside of the norm per se than a man being attracted to a man because of the fact that for women attraction is more psychological than physical.
I mean at least one of the women would have to be active which is already a masculine trait.
Of course they could behave like friends or just satisfy each other without much of emotions but it wouldn't be a real couple.

[Richmondbread]

Once two men have sex with each other there's no going back !

[The Blade]

Women have a totally different nature. A lot of them are prone to bisexuality and others adopt it at some point.
Most straight women are indifferent to lesbians and no more than 15-20% display disgust for them based on my experience.
As for straight men, I don't get the point of being ''scared'' by gays.
If you are really straight, there's nothing to be scared of.
Most straight men (including I) cannot stand only that part of male homosexuals that acts in a ridiculous manner - parading, wearing high heels, wanting to adopt children, those who want the term ''parent'' to replace ''mother'' and ''father''. This isn't fear but a justified opposition.
Males who really hate all gays for nothing and are prone to violence in general have either complexes for not having much of a sexual experience (incel syndrome, if I can dub it this way) or doubts of their own orientation.

[Zeus]

I'd reckon it'd be because women are on average more sexually fluid than men

[Tooting Carmen]

I'd reckon it'd be because women are on average more sexually fluid than men

Bullshit.

[Ylla]

Once two men have sex with each other there's no going back !

I agree with this, lesbianism isn't taken very seriously (sorry) but gay men are, two women making out doesn't define their sexuality compared to two men doing the same. Most anti LGBT people are against gay men nobody thinks of lesbians.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most anti LGBT people are against gay men nobody thinks of lesbians.

Maybe they don't much in the West, but I am not sure if that is the case elsewhere in the world.

[Ylla]

Maybe they don't much in the West, but I am not sure if that is the case elsewhere in the world.

Also women are naturally caring, nurturing and sweet, so for a woman to fall in love with another woman is understandable but masculine on masculine is difficult for people to comprehend. Maybe this is why lesbians don't get as much hate.

[TheOldNorth]

Once two men have sex with each other there's no going back !

out of context this looks like you had gay sex and enjoyed it, but knowing you this is meant to say don't or you'll go to hell or whatever

[Richmondbread]

out of context this looks like you had gay sex and enjoyed it, but knowing you this is meant to say don't or you'll go to hell or whatever

It's part of the slippery slope.

[Richmondbread]

I had a possible run in with a roving homosexual. 10 years ago when I was in a bit better shape, I was riding my bike and at a stoplight. This big pick up truck pulls next to me. I hear this voice say "hey buddy ,nice ass!" It was a man. I thought nothing of it, except no one else was around. I figured maybe they were just joking. Then he said it again and more loudly: "yoohoo, buddy, I like your ass!". Okay, so that made me very nervous and uncomfortable. I had to go home and take a shower because I felt violated. I was just wearing blue jeans and a t shirt. I was not asking for it!

[Ruggery]

Also women are naturally caring, nurturing and sweet, so for a woman to fall in love with another woman is understandable but masculine on masculine is difficult for people to comprehend. Maybe this is why lesbians don't get as much hate.

That is partly true, the majority of homosexual beatings are directly to men, while this almost never occurs with homosexual women.
However, at the religious level, both are rejected.

[Zroota]

Also women are naturally caring, nurturing and sweet, so for a woman to fall in love with another woman is understandable but masculine on masculine is difficult for people to comprehend. Maybe this is why lesbians don't get as much hate.
This is a very stereotypical view of women. Men can be like that too, but society expects men to toughen it up and hide their caring or sensitive ways. Being sweet and nurturing is more of a personality thing anyway and it doesn't define gender. And this is coming from someone who grew up with a nurturing grandmother and an aloof, 'tough' grandfather. But I know of kids who had the opposite experience (more nurturing male figures in life).

But we're speaking from a male's perspective here. Straight women are usually accepting of homosexuals and would tend to be close friends with gay guys. Why? Because gays possess both feminine and masculine characteristics that women admire and find comfort in. In other words, they get the best of both words when they befriend homosexual men, as there is no competition from other women and there's no sexual tension. Furthermore, you're somehow implying that two women in love are feminine and soft, like those in lesbian porn. Have you seen some lesbians in real life? Some people here pointed them out in the first page -- They're hardly "feminine" and would have traits typical of that stereotypical jock in the school gym. Though of course, feminine lesbians do exist.

Male and male friendship is even stronger and more compassionate I'd argue. Whereas with girls, their relationships with each other can get catty and gossipy. A lot of young (straight) men, at least those in my ethnicity (can't speak of others), tend to be in a tight-knit pack. They would dance together, hug each other and get affectionate at parties. So to say "lesbians are more accepted because society views female bond as beautiful" is bunkum. Maybe they should look up the term of 'bromance' and the vulgar slang 'bros before hos' (https://time.com/4978727/bromance-male-friendships/).

P.S. As a gay man myself, I cannot comprehend people who use baffling adjectives to describe us. You say we're "masculine on masculine". Well, others would describe as very feminine and unmanly. Can people make up their minds on us already? :cool:

[Rumata]

This is a very stereotypical view of women.

True. So many heartless bitches among females.

[AAJUPP]

Every man has a secret gay fantasy.

I slept with alot of married guys that are secretly gay

[JamesBond007]

I slept with two lesbians and orgasmed inside one and they could be raising my baby right now as we speak. I experimented with gay sex with one man but that just convinced me that I was not gay.

[Oneeye]

Women should be scared of lesbians. They have incredibly high domestic violence rates.

[JamesBond007]

It's part of the slippery slope.

No it isn't unless maybe if you are an incel and cannot get pussy to compare it to

[Rumata]

I slept with two lesbians and orgasmed inside one and they could be raising my baby right now as we speak.

How comes you don't know it for certain?

[Rumata]

No wonder some women prefer male friends, given men are less likely to backstab and often have to offer something women can't.

[El_Abominacion]

No wonder some women prefer male friends, given men are less likely to backstab and often have to offer something women can't.

An unfortunately large percentage of (predominantly younger) women can be pretty shallow and toxic. There’s a running stereotype that girls who claim they hang out with guys because of less drama are just doing it to get dicked down on the daily, but I honestly don’t blame or hold anything against them. The non-shallow, rational females are constantly hounded and bullied by the petty and narcissistic ones from what I see

[Rumata]

There’s a running stereotype that girls who claim they hang out with guys because of less drama are just doing it to get dicked down on the daily...
Again, those guys mostly aren't in competition for other guys / possible husbands.

[Zroota]

True. So many heartless bitches among females.
To be fair, I wasn't insinuating that women are nasty compared to men. I was just debunking the standard, stereotypical notion that Ylla made where she said women are "nice and sweet", and presumably men are not in comparison. That's not totally true. Although, biologically, women can be more nurturing for sure. But sweet, nice, nasty, bitchy, are all personality traits and they can be present in both genders. That said, and speaking of friendship, from my experience men tend to have stronger bonds with other men (non-sexual) than women do with other women -- The term 'bromance' did not come out of nowhere, did it not?

[Rumata]

To be fair, I wasn't insinuating that women are nasty compared to men. I was just debunking the standard, stereotypical notion that Ylla made where she said women are "nice and sweet", and presumably men are not in comparison. That's not totally true. Although, biologically, women can be more nurturing for sure. But sweet, nice, nasty, bitchy, are all personality traits and they can be present in both genders. That said, and speaking of friendship, from my experience men tend to have stronger bonds with other men (non-sexual) than women do with other women -- The term 'bromance' did not come out of nowhere, did it not?
I mean the mind of a heartless bitch is designed is such a way that it hardly allows a lot of caring and nurturing. Such qualities are alien to a selfish mind.
This mind design can be found both among males and females. But I think it's true that females are more caring and nurturing on average which is probably determined by their historico-biological role.

[Ruggery]

Women should be scared of lesbians. They have incredibly high domestic violence rates.

I had heard something like that but from gays.

[Poncho Peanatus]

I can attest that, I used to play music in nightclubs in the early part of 2000s. Girls kissing and touching on the dance floor was not a rare sight, not a everyday (weekend) event, but it did happen. I never seen two dudes aacting like that, unless it was a gay party (I used to prefer playing at gay parties because they pay well btw). On a side note, talking about playing music, my favorite place to play music was at...surprise surprise, resthomes for elderly. Once I had to replace a friend of mine who got sick. So I went playing to a festivity in a resthouse. Well I can say it was magical. When these old folks, most in their 80s listen to their favorite music when they were young. LIKE MAGIC FOR A MOMENT, they became kids again, you could see them playing having fun being cool and all that just like when they were young. It didnt last tho, the years came back with tyrrany but it was a nice experience. Oh btw no gran mas kissing each others. lol

[Tooting Carmen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5QCH1fOLo