Classify German actor Moritz Bleibtreu

[Ulla]

http://image.gala.de/v1/cms/HR/moritz-bleibtreu-pa-vorspann_6324456-original-lightbox.jpg?v=8236824
http://www.os-up.de/uploads/filme/actors_photos/nm0001953.jpg
http://stars-forever.com/d/4934-3/00475424_jbh.jpg

[Luovatus]

Really a german ? He looks east-med. Mixed turkish ?

[Ulla]

Really a german ? He looks east-med. Mixed turkish ?

He was born in Munich from a family of Austrian ancestry by father and mother line. Well-known family in Austria.

[Luovatus]

He was born in Munich from a family of Austrian ancestry by father and mother line. Well-known family in Austria.

Then they must be jewish imo (I didn´t google)

[Ulla]

Then they must be jewish imo (I didn´t google)

Maybe or maybe not.

[Luovatus]

Maybe or maybe not.

And what that means iyo

[Ulla]

And what that means iyo

Means that I don't know.

[RedLight]

Is the Jewish too much though he does not tell anyone, but one day I look inside his window and he was starting the fire on a Menorah while wearing a kippa and then he danced the Hava Nagila down the hall.

[Styrian Mujo]

Being from Munich and having ancestry from Austria it is likely that he has Jewish ancestry. He has pussy sparse beard aswell (can't be trusted).

[Not a Cop]

Seems like we got a case of Cristiano viejoism right there:bounce:


Anyway, some sort of swarthy Dinaro-med.

[Beit El]

He looks really Jewish. The lips, the nose, the eyes.

[King Claus]

He looks really Jewish. The lips, the nose, the eyes.
I can also see a quick slope in his forehead.

[Styrian Mujo]

Seems like we got a case of Cristiano viejoism right there:bounce:


Anyway, some sort of swarthy Dinaro-med.
He is mostly East-med with Alpinoid influence.

[Smaug]

Alpine. Central Euro look.

[JoeyGee8688]

"Moritz" sounds Hebrew inspired to me.

[CordedWhelp]

he has some Semitic smile on 'em, and a general Meddish-vibe. "Moritz" is frequently used as a given name by 'em too.

[Luovatus]

Alpine. Central Euro look.

Tell me more by all means

[Corvus]

Dark for a German, I think he has really Jewish ancestry
but its not so unusual, Conchita Wurst is more Southern looking:)

[Ulla]

Dark for a German, I think he has really Jewish ancestry
but its not so unusual, Conchita Wurst is swarthier :)

Sss... You can't write that, it's forbidden. :)

[Corvus]

Sss... You can write that, it's forbidden. :)

Thanks for the advice. Corrected :cool:

[CordedWhelp]

While there are darker central euros (particularly now westerly central europe), this guy still has a distinctly Ashkenazi vibe...also, a well known family line from Austria? no doubt Hapsburg ancestry, and the prominent classes of that family have a lot of Ashkenazi genes.

[Luovatus]

Sss... You can write that, it's forbidden. :)
Please do learn proper english

[Corvus]

While there are darker central euros (particularly now westerly central europe), this guy still has a distinctly Ashkenazi vibe...also, a well known family line from Austria? no doubt Hapsburg ancestry, and the prominent classes of that family have a lot of Ashkenazi genes.

Correct, Bleibtreu is also a very Jewish sounding name.

[Ulla]

Thanks for the advice. Corrected :cool:

Ooops, thanks for your advice too. :-)

[Ulla]

a well known family line from Austria? no doubt Hapsburg ancestry, and the prominent classes of that family have a lot of Ashkenazi genes.

Family of well-known artists. Hapsburg ancestry, what do you mean?

[CordedWhelp]

Family of well-known artists. Hapsburg ancestry, what do you mean?

The House of Hapsburg...high elite, high occultic-lineage royal fam from Austria.

What often happens with elites is they will branch out into "more hidden" branches and cadet branches with changed surnames (from the original clan-family name...) they often go on to become prominent in some way...if not overtly political, in the arts, media, given a 'role' in some fashion...

[Smaug]

Tell me more by all means

You want me to tell you more?

[Zincite]

Sss... You can't write that, it's forbidden. :)

There's lots of dark haired Germans, but his features really don't look German... I've never seen that for an ethnic German when I've gone to Württemberg or Bayern, and not here among Swiss Germans either.

[Smaug]

While there are darker central euros (particularly now westerly central europe), this guy still has a distinctly Ashkenazi vibe...also, a well known family line from Austria? no doubt Hapsburg ancestry, and the prominent classes of that family have a lot of Ashkenazi genes.

No, Habsburgs were not Jewish.

[Roy]

He looks Jewish, so he likely is.


Correct, Bleibtreu is also a very Jewish sounding name.

It also sprung to my mind. Ashkenazi Jews were in the habit of taking surnames which were supposed to have attractive meaning (like Rosenblum, Rubinstein) often created from the name of a flower, tree, jewel linked with showy epiphet or just being some other adjective with positive connotations. That's why their surnames are often distinctive despite being German ones, there are some who are shared but it still looks like that.

[RedLight]

Alpine. Central Euro look.

I cannot believe this..... I thought I was the troll? :laugh:

[Smaug]

I cannot believe this..... I thought I was the troll? :laugh:

He looks like a swarthy Central Euro, and that's what he actually is, where's the trolling? There are many dark Central Euros, like Alpinids and Dinarids.

[RedLight]

He looks like a swarthy Central Euro, and that's what he actually is, where's the trolling? There are many dark Central Euros, like Alpinids and Dinarids.

I see very clearly features common in Ashkenazi...the forehead esp, and I would not say his look is alpine really... His nose is very sharp for one thing.

[Ulla]

The House of Hapsburg...high elite, high occultic-lineage royal fam from Austria.

What often happens with elites is they will branch out into "more hidden" branches and cadet branches with changed surnames (from the original clan-family name...) they often go on to become prominent in some way...if not overtly political, in the arts, media, given a 'role' in some fashion...

The house of Hapsburg became totally extinct in the male line with Charles VI who died on 1740. The successor line was the Habsburg-Lorraine, when Empress Maria Theresa married Francis Stephan, Duke of Lorraine. Are Lorraine and Hapsburg Jewish?

[Smaug]

"Ashkenazi forehead", oh these anthroforums... :bored:

[RedLight]

"Ashkenazi forehead", oh these anthroforums... :bored:

What about his nose make you say Alpine? look at his eyes also... there is something of a semitic look no trolling, bro.

[CordedWhelp]

No, Habsburgs were not Jewish.

Not in and of themselves, but some branches did some mixing with Ashkenazim of a more elite nature. Austria was a place where they did so in a very closely integrated sort of way. As a result, more Germanic Habsburgs will be found among cadet branches in Germany now.

[CordedWhelp]

The house of Hapsburg became totally extinct in the male line with Charles VI who died on 1740. The successor line was the Habsburg-Lorraine, when Empress Maria Theresa married Francis Stephan, Duke of Lorraine. Are Lorraine and Hapsburg Jewish?

I don't know what to tell you, other than that they have a way of easily recreating lineages.

[Nehellenia]

Dinaro-Alpinid.. i recognise him, he is quite famous in German speaking countries in cinema :3

[OldWayGuy]

HABSBURGS are jewish. I know princess Agustina. Actually they are relate to Lafayette family from France.

[Anglojew]

He comes from a famous Jewish theatrical family that converted to Christianity/assimilated. He might not even be aware of this himself. I researched his family after noticing how Ashkenazi he looks.

[RedLight]

He comes from a famous Jewish theatrical family that converted to Christianity/assimilated. He might not even be aware of this himself. I researched his family after noticing how Ashkenazi he looks.

It is excellent to have confirmation from a Jew as yourself. I knew I was not crazy.

[Anglojew]

It is excellent to have confirmation from a Jew as yourself. I knew I was not crazy.

From memory his mother's family were a famous theatre family in Pre-War Austria of Jewish origin. He looks IDENTICAL to my cousin.

[armenianbodyhair]

lol I think I pass better in Germany than this nigguh

[Nehellenia]

I sort of had the feeling he was Jewish at least in part ancestrally too, i have a good jewdar. :cool:

[Diërker]

Juden.

[RedLight]

I sort of had the feeling he was Jewish at least in part ancestrally too, i have a good jewdar. :cool:

Yes, okay I am impressed, but this will not make me for give you a date nor my personal informations please stop to asking me.

[Anglojew]

Juden.

The singular is Jude

[Nehellenia]

Yes, okay I am impressed, but this will not make me for give you a date nor my personal informations please stop to asking me.

:picard2:

[armenianbodyhair]

The singular is Jude

He was forced to use the plural because the guy's forehead is twice the size of a normal person's.

[RedLight]

He was forced to use the plural because the guy's forehead is twice the size of a normal person's.

Yes, it is probably not due to a superficial knowledge of Nazism and a low intellect.

[CordedWhelp]

It is true that sometimes some folks get a bit nuts with calling things a "Jew this" or "Jew that" or other traits assigned to a Single ethnic group.

Jews became the vehicle for certain things in certain places otherwise not Very characteristic of them, though.

I think this disclaimer helps.

[Nehellenia]

He was forced to use the plural because the guy's forehead is twice the size of a normal person's.

If you cut and paste a dinarid forehead and ears on a tiny bitty alpinid face, you're gonna have a bad time.

[RedLight]

If you cut and paste a dinarid forehead and ears on a tiny bitty alpinid face, you're gonna have a bad time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Bat_Boy.PNG

[Nehellenia]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Bat_Boy.PNG

Needs more forehead.

[Anglojew]

He was forced to use the plural because the guy's forehead is twice the size of a normal person's.

Lol

[armenianbodyhair]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Bat_Boy.PNGThose eyes are med metric

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I agree he looks east Med.

[LightHouse89]

Seems like we got a case of Cristiano viejoism right there:bounce:


Anyway, some sort of swarthy Dinaro-med.

he looks alpine mixed with something else non German. I say possible Austrian German with some Jewish or wog admixture.

[LightHouse89]

Yes, it is probably not due to a superficial knowledge of Nazism and a low intellect.

well he doesn't look typical Germanic. I would pas more as a German than him. I only have like 2/8ths German :( there is something about being german that says fuck the world we will take you all on.....he just doesn't look it. I have a friend who is half german and half jewish Russian....he passes 1,000 times more than this man. If I posted a picture not one person here would say he doesn't look german hahah. I got to get a pict of him to post here he is more german than most germans.

[RedLight]

well he doesn't look typical Germanic. I would pas more as a German than him. I only have like 2/8ths German :( there is something about being german that says fuck the world we will take you all on.....he just doesn't look it. I have a friend who is half german and half jewish Russian....he passes 1,000 times more than this man. If I posted a picture not one person here would say he doesn't look german hahah. I got to get a pict of him to post here he is more german than most germans.

Yes I have seen one half Palestinian half European man who looks just like the man in OP, except he have forehead like a normal human. Very Jewish look my friend.

[LightHouse89]

Yes I have seen one half Palestinian half European man who looks just like the man in OP, except he have forehead like a normal human. Very Jewish look my friend.

the nose bridge to me gives him away and the ears....the ears maybe british islander...they have big ears...I have them too but that nose bridge doesn't look typical german to me. If he had an alpine look I wouldn't say he didn't look german. the ears give him away the most.

[Not a Cop]

He comes from a famous Jewish theatrical family that converted to Christianity/assimilated. He might not even be aware of this himself. I researched his family after noticing how Ashkenazi he looks.

You got any proof?

[Roy]

He looks like a swarthy Central Euro, and that's what he actually is, where's the trolling? There are many dark Central Euros, like Alpinids and Dinarids.

In parallel dimension at most.

[Anglojew]

You got any proof?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwig_Bleibtreu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bleibtreu

I'm not saying this is his direct ancestor but just to prove it's a Jewish surname;



BLEIBTREU, PHILIP JOHANN:

Jewish convert to Christianity; born at Frankfort-on-the-Main in the middle of the seventeenth century; died there in 1702. He published a German work entitled "Meïr Naor" (The Enlightened Meïr, from his Jewish name, Meïr), Frankfort, 1787, giving an account of his conversion, notices on the Jewish festivals, and on some Jewish prayers

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3364-bleibtreu-philip-johann

I found more direct evidence but it was a few years ago and took a lot of research. This is just 5 minutes on google.

[morski]

Looks perfectly German despite pigmentation. Brunette Germans are not as rare as some people might think.

[Leon_C]

Med + some Taurid.

[Smaug]

In parallel dimension at most.

You mean he is a light Central Euro? Do you live in a parallel dimension?

[Zincite]

Looks perfectly German despite pigmentation. Brunette Germans are not as rare as some people might think.

Brunette Germans are common, but not with this guy's features at all. He is definitely not fully ethnic German.

[morski]

Brunette Germans are common, but not with this guy's features at all. He is definitely not fully ethnic German.

You folks are just being paranoid.:)

[Übermensch]

I look more German than him lol.
Anyway alpinid+armenoid.

[Ulla]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwig_Bleibtreu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bleibtreu

I'm not saying this is his direct ancestor but just to prove it's a Jewish surname;



http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3364-bleibtreu-philip-johann

I found more direct evidence but it was a few years ago and took a lot of research. This is just 5 minutes on google.

All Bleibtreu are Jewish?

I found this on Wikipedia (of course, I don't know if it's correct, just 5 minutes on google as you)

Karl August Bleibtreu (January 13, 1859 – January 30, 1928) was a German writer who promoted naturalism in German literature. He was noted for his aggressive and dogmatic style of criticism, linked to a nationalistic and sometimes antisemitic agenda. His later work was heavily influenced by Nietzsche's theory of the übermensch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bleibtreu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bleibtreu)

[Nehellenia]

People who are Brunette German descent:

http://imworld.aufeminin.com/dossiers/bdf/till-schweiger1.jpg

http://img.actualidadfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/christoph-metzelder.jpg

http://www.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period1/2014/01/31/Photos/Michael%20Schumacher--621x414.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x9/blackcanary2000/blackcanary2000011/david-hasselhoff-as-michael-knight-in-knightrider-thumbs-up_zpsae2deb05.jpg

And that guy (from the movie i first saw him in):

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/3a/RLR_2.jpg/450px-RLR_2.jpg

[Anglojew]

All Bleibtreu are Jewish?

I found this on Wikipedia (of course, I don't know if it's correct, just 5 minutes on google as you)

Karl August Bleibtreu (January 13, 1859 – January 30, 1928) was a German writer who promoted naturalism in German literature. He was noted for his aggressive and dogmatic style of criticism, linked to a nationalistic and sometimes antisemitic agenda. His later work was heavily influenced by Nietzsche's theory of the übermensch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bleibtreu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bleibtreu)

I doubt everyone with that name is automatically part-Jewish. I guess we'd need some genealogical studies.

[Corvus]

Moritz Bleibtreu impersonated Joseph Göbbels in the movie "Jud Süß" btw:

http://img.welt.de/img/kultur/crop100343869/3140718650-ci3x2l-w580-aoriginal-h386-l0/suess-1-bleibtreu-DW-Kultur-Berlin.jpg

[aherne]

Jewish-European mix. Semitic greatly predominates...

[gültekin]

he looks like a brother of Turkish actor Tardu Flordun
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z_TG47HZfGg/T5QCXlgo1XI/AAAAAAAAFNU/8ij3Sm7Kg2w/s1600/Behzat-C-Seni-Kalbime-Gomdum.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mqNzfGb8OPU/TLc2XZv4GDI/AAAAAAAAC0o/YyFIW3OEqtQ/s1600/Tardu_Flordun_Yine_Cezaevinde.jpg
http://www.biyografist.com/resimler/tardu-flordun-resimleri/tardu-flordun-resim-003c.jpg