Mapping Your Location (GEDmatch calculators)

[War Chef]

1. Visit GEDmatch (presuming you already have genomic raw data and have an account, otherwise, acquire these)
2. Select Admixture on the main menu.
3. Insert your ID and select any of the open-source projects (MDLP, Eurogenes, Dodecad, HarappaWorld) and then any of the calculators.
4. Once the calculator has finished, click the Oracle button (not Oracle-4) underneath your generated component scores.
5. Scroll down to the bottom and inspect the "Mixed Mode Population Sharing:" results. Pick one, preferably one with the lowest genetic difference (GD) to ensure better accuracy and one which includes non-diaspora/recently non-admixed populations (localising Ashkenazi Jewish or African Americans as a donor population on a map will be difficult due to subjective guidance regarding their placement on a map).
6. Repeat the above with at least two other calculators and keep note of the results. For a minimalist approach, Europeans are better off using Eurogenes, Dodecad and MDLP. South Asians are recommended to have HarappaWorld included. Those from elsewhere in the world are free to use any combination, as none of these are specific for other regions.
7. Download this map (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_large_blank_world_map_with_oceans_marked_in _blue.PNG) (from Wikipedia) and Paint.Net (open-source image editor). Feel free to use another editing software. I prefer Paint.Net because it indicates the 1/3 increments along any line drawn.
8. Open the map with Paint.Net/another image editor. Pinpoint your McDonald BGA average spot or physical ancestral location if desired.
9. With a colour specific to the open-source calculator you're going to use, pinpoint the location where each donor population for your selected Oracle result comes from. If uncertain, look up roughly where they're from (e.g. Pakistani Pashtuns will be around NW Pakistan close to the Afghan border). If a national average (e.g. German_Dodecad), place in the middle of the country.
10. Draw a line between both donor populations. Estimate where on the line you'll fall. Note the numbers are flipped round in practice; for instance, if the Oracle is 70% German + 30% Ukrainian, the spot will end up around the 30% mark on the German end. Make a spot on the line wherever this may be.
11. Repeat steps 9+10 for all the other Oracle runs, remembering to use different colours for the calculators to keep track.
12. Join these spots together with a different coloured line, forming the "bounded area" where your ancestry can be narrowed down from.
13. Completed. Make all the relevant inferences from the results, compare to the additional data in step 8 if present.

Mine:

http://i57.tinypic.com/142gcq1.png

[Thrax]

Here's mine

http://i59.tinypic.com/2hqv0g2.jpg

[Equilibrium]

Mine:

That's DMXX's guide my nigger. Credit where credit is due. http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1778-Mapping-Your-Location-(GEDmatch-calculators)

Mine doesn't look that nice, the triangle is very narrow. Maybe I should have chosen more differing results..

http://abload.de/img/triangulation_cut8lk86.png

[Damião de Góis]

Gedmatch seems to be down

[Thrax]

Gedmatch seems to be down

lol how original

[Graham]

This is the way I tell everyone to do it. But haven't done it with a few admixes like has been said, might make it better..:) Always said, don't take it literally, but find the point in between. It's the best way.

[Graham]

Have only done:
Eurogenes K13 -- Orcadian 100%
Eurogenes K15 -- West Scottish(Argyll) 100%
MDLP World 27 -- 94% Welsh + 6% Finn
Dodecad V3 -- Irish 100%

As they were the only ones I had. But these are the best for for each anyway. My results are fairly clear cut compared to most( rounded to nearest percent) with not much mixes thus the above. MDLP might have meant Cornish rather than Welsh, not sure.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/capture_zps85cba00b.jpg

[War Chef]

That's DMXX's guide my nigger. Credit where credit is due.

I know, that's why I put it in quotes.



http://abload.de/img/triangulation_cut8lk86.png

Hmmm, I'll accept this. Son, welcome to the Black Sea Master Race.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2woxfk3.gif

[Yehiel]

i dont think i did it right
http://i.imgur.com/InRGdTh.png

[War Chef]

i dont think i did it right


It's pretty simple. If the oracle calculator has you for example as: 33.3% Lebanese, 66% Irish, you put yourself 2/3 of the line to Ireland, 1/3 to Lebanon.

[Jusarius]

Mine:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n178/Jusarius/jusance_zps41c85222.jpg

[Sehnsucht]

Can someone please do this for me, starting at step 9? I don't quite understand the directions but I did run the GEDMATCH calculators (I have done this on my own all the way up to step 8)

My three calculatur results

1 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.15

1 68.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 31.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.28

1 56.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 43.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.75

[Faustus]

Sorry, I hate to be "that guy" but can somebody please do the mapping for me? I'm bad with computers. It would be greatly appreciated. My results are as follows:

77.2% West_Scottish + 22.8% Spanish_Murcia (Eurogenes)
69.6% German-South (derived) + 30.4% German (derived) (MDLP)
85.5% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 14.5% Sicilian (Dodecad)

[barbatus]

How accurate is this?

[Gauthier]

A Russian from the Caucasus region. xD

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/536/7UBTdS.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/ew7UBTdSj)

DODECAD K12b Oracle
MDLP K=5 Oracle
MDLP K=12 Oracle

[cally]

http://i59.tinypic.com/dh8w1l.jpg

[War Chef]

I made my own version, you do the same instead you use ORACLE 4 and see where the lines overlap. Venn diagram concept:

http://i57.tinypic.com/mryfb9.png


fucking genius

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ihnyj6.png

[Oneeye]

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/mapping_zpsff92639d.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/mapping_zpsff92639d.png.html)


K13

80.9% Irish 19.1% Bulgarian

Dodecad V3

87.4% Argyll 12.6% O_Italian

MDLP K=12

56.5 German 43.5% French

[War Chef]

^ Using 3 populations

MDLP:
1. 50% German-North +25% Greek_Azov +25% Lezgin @ 2.431717

Eurogenes:
1 50% Adygei +25% Lithuanian +25% Serbian @ 3.109161

Dodecad:
1 50% Hungarians +25% Turks +25% Urkarah @ 1.934212

http://i59.tinypic.com/2mwt6ye.png

[Oneeye]

I tried it with Oracle 4, but I have 3 "West Scot" with 1 "Romania" for Eurogenes K13, so I drew a dot on the straight line 3/4 of the way there.


http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/mapping2_zps8f583718.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/mapping2_zps8f583718.png.html)

[alfieb]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/656x502q90/633/aohWmi.png
Color me completely unsurprised that Eurogenes was the least accurate of the four.

[smdamyanovich]

Can someone please do this for me, starting at step 9? I don't quite understand the directions but I did run the GEDMATCH calculators (I have done this on my own all the way up to step 8)

My three calculatur results

1 91% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.15

1 68.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) + 31.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.28

1 56.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 43.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.75

There you go.

http://i.imgur.com/5DgdhnN.png

[smdamyanovich]

Sorry, I hate to be "that guy" but can somebody please do the mapping for me? I'm bad with computers. It would be greatly appreciated. My results are as follows:

77.2% West_Scottish + 22.8% Spanish_Murcia (Eurogenes)
69.6% German-South (derived) + 30.4% German (derived) (MDLP)
85.5% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 14.5% Sicilian (Dodecad)

Here is your map.

http://i.imgur.com/cSUhDzJ.png

[Oneeye]

Color me completely unsurprised that Eurogenes was the least accurate of the four.

I don't understand the Eurogenes hate? It's hardly off.








Here's my McDonald plot to compare to my gedmatch ones:


http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/oneeyemcdonaldmap_zps04eb98f9.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/oneeyemcdonaldmap_zps04eb98f9.png.html)


http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/mapping_zpsff92639d.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/mapping_zpsff92639d.png.html)



Angliauberalles

[alfieb]

I don't understand the Eurogenes hate? It's hardly a rip off.


I've known Polako for four years. He doesn't like me. He thinks I'm a moron. I don't like him. I think he's an asshole.

He said that if I send him my genome, he would spend more time than usual on it, in order to go out of his way to prove that I have significant black admixture. He's openly admitted that he doesn't like Southern Europeans. He's also openly admitted a bias against Finnic people. He's openly a Slavophile, and he's gone out of his way to try to prove that Scythians were Slavs, and that the Kurgan hypothesis is the truth, because he has an agenda.

[Raven_]

I've known Polako for four years. He doesn't like me. He thinks I'm a moron. I don't like him. I think he's an asshole.

He said that if I send him my genome, he would spend more time than usual on it, in order to go out of his way to prove that I have significant black admixture. He's openly admitted that he doesn't like Southern Europeans. He's also openly admitted a bias against Finnic people. He's openly a Slavophile, and he's gone out of his way to try to prove that Scythians were Slavs, and that the Kurgan hypothesis is the truth, because he has an agenda.

I thought he promoted Polish hypothesis, no? Now this one was really ridiculous (esp. in 'silent' agreement with openly retarded EastPole's ideas).

[Graham]

Eurogenes has been good for me. The best of lot. But Polako does annoy people with his arrogance.

[alfieb]

I thought he promoted Polish hypothesis, no? Now this one was really ridiculous (esp. in 'silent' agreement with openly retarded EastPole's ideas).
He may have changed. I don't know. In 2010 he defended Kurgan and insulted anyone who agreed with Anatolian.

[noricum]

Both Eurogenes and Dodecad work exceptionally well on me, with hy birthplace being right inbetween their spots. To be fair I used only the third closest result of Dodecad as the closest where like 70% Hungarian + 30% Northern Europe and 70% Hungarian + 30% Mixed Germanic are a pain in the arse to piont out on a map. The third result, 85% Slovenian + 15% German really makes sense too.

<a href="http://s63.photobucket.com/user/Christian_Unterberger/media/gedmatch_zpse06327b1.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h149/Christian_Unterberger/gedmatch_zpse06327b1.png" border="0" alt=" photo gedmatch_zpse06327b1.png"/></a>

[Raven_]

He may have changed. I don't know. In 2010 he defended Kurgan and insulted anyone who agreed with Anatolian.

He actually promoted a theory that proto-Indo-Europeans hail from Poland in 2012. I remember Poles on ABF arguing about Kartvelian and Uralic influences on PIE. Denying the first one and searching desperately for the last one in Lithuanian. Oh, and denying reconstructive linguistics as a whole when it shows Polish hypothesis is just too flawed. He doesn't talk about Polish hypothesis anymore.

[alfieb]

He actually promoted a theory that proto-Indo-Europeans hail from Poland in 2012. I remember Poles on ABF arguing about Kartvelian and Uralic influences on PIE. Denying the first one and searching desperately for the last one in Lithuanian. Oh, and denying reconstructive linguistics as a whole when it shows Polish hypothesis is just too flawed. He doesn't talk about Polish hypothesis anymore.

They banned me from ABF for most of 2012 so I wasn't around for that. Came here sometime in 2013, then I was unbanned late 2013. I haven't bothered to read any of his crap since I've been back. I don't even know if he's still active there.

[Damião de Góis]

Not that accurate but could have been worse.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/24cfqrs.jpg

MacDonald's for comparison:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zbbew7.jpg

[Graham]

^^
The difference between Portugal & Spain is quite minimal the now on a map. I mean you can see a difference in Basqelands, Aragon. A little with Cantabia & Cataluna..

With the rest is hard to tell going South of that. You can see more difference in North/South than East/West in iberia. You being on the East side isn't a big deal, as long as you're in that cluster of Spain/Portugal.

[Graham]

To give you an idea on what's crap & whatnot. Only runs that were available to me.


Doedecad V3-- 96% Ireland + 4% Norway
Doedecad K12b -- 96% SE England + 4% Finland
Dodecad K7b -- 95% England + 5% Russia
Dodecad World 9 -- 91% British Isles + 9% Hungary
---
MDLP World 22 -- 58% Germany + 42% Norway
MDLP World -- 96% Cornwall + 4% Finland
MDLP K6 -- 89% SE England + 11% Belarus
MDLP K7 -- 87% SE England + 13% East Ukraine
MDLP K8 -- 84% Germany + 16% Basqueland
MDLP K9 -- 83% Germany + 17% Basqueland
MDLP K10-- 65% Germany + 35% France
MDLP K11 -- 65% Germany + 35% France
MDLP K12 -- 63% Germany + 37% France
---
Eurogenes K13 -- 100% W Scotland
Eurogenes K15 -- 100% Orkney
---
HarrapaWorld 96% Britain + 4% lithuania

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/Europe_zpsa9e9f97f.png

[Damião de Góis]

What do you think of MDLP? I didn't include it because it said i was Swiss + minor Mozabite.

[Graham]

Shite mostly. The only one keeping up-to-date is Eurogenes with K13 & K15. The rest must be a couple of years now.

[Sehnsucht]

There you go.

http://i.imgur.com/5DgdhnN.png

Does that mean I have Middle East ancestry?

[Jackson]

I find MDLP always pulls me towards central Europe , Dodecad is ok although the oracle is off, Eurogenes is generally good but it seems to group NW Europeans together more than the others, but i reliably get my population in the top results at a reasonable distance, with a small pull away from it which agrees with McDonald's analysis. I think Eurogenes K13 is probably the most accurate for all my family.

[War Chef]

A Russian from the Caucasus region. xD

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/536/7UBTdS.jpg


Nice try, dirty Kalmyk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Kalmykia).


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/656x502q90/633/aohWmi.png
Color me completely unsurprised that Eurogenes was the least accurate of the four.

This is so unusual, compare it to your 23andme PCA plot which puts you in Northern Europe (right?). You should complain to them that they mixed up samples or you will live your whole life thinking you are Sicilo-Norman. Do you have a link to your 23andme PCA plot?


He actually promoted a theory that proto-Indo-Europeans hail from Poland in 2012. I remember Poles on ABF arguing about Kartvelian and Uralic influences on PIE. Denying the first one and searching desperately for the last one in Lithuanian. Oh, and denying reconstructive linguistics as a whole when it shows Polish hypothesis is just too flawed. He doesn't talk about Polish hypothesis anymore.

According to them, Kartvelian, and to a lesser extent Semitic loanwards came with the LBK Neolithic farmers in Poland before mighty Polish proto-Husaria overtook them. To be fair though, I woudln't call it Polish hypothesis, as he was going for a broader Corded Ware theory but with a particular emphasis on Poland or “East-Central Europe” as he subtly called it. He had a few cult-like supporters, even though it has long since been known that Corded Ware is a bi-product of Yamna and so it's the result of intrusive steppe elements.... the Polaks got the chronology completely backwards.. I'm no expert but a simple google search will tell you it's actually Yamna ---> Corded Ware. There's no way they can get around that, nevermind linguistics.

But their repetitive theme “Poland – ancient mysterious land forgotten in time.... Soon world will know how mighty Poland is again! We conquered all of the world, to the depths of Asia and back!” has always been irritating.


What do you think of MDLP? I didn't include it because it said i was Swiss + minor Mozabite.

MDLP is the only one that has uber-rare samples like Azov Greeks and Gagauzes in the database. It's my favorite of the 3. Harrapa is just a joke not worth mentioning, and Eurogenes is western Euro oriented.


To give you an idea on what's crap & whatnot. Only runs that were available to me.


That's because Polako complained about McDonalds BGA fucking up Norwegians and placing them in Ireland, so in his Eurogenes project he focused specifically on NW Europe.... And there are many genetic enthusiasts of N-W Euro background to please, so he did that wisely. Anyway, he has an account here I think, so he's welcome to “defend” himself, although I don't think I really attacked him to begin with.

[smdamyanovich]

Does that mean I have Middle East ancestry?

Based on the Oracle it can not be said with certainty one way or the other. Can you share your results (not Oracle) from MDLP-22, and latest Eurogenes and Dodecad?
Anyway, I'd say if you do have Middle East, it is probably very ancient and quite marginal.

[alfieb]

This is so unusual, compare it to your 23andme PCA plot which puts you in Northern Europe (right?). You should complain to them that they mixed up samples or you will live your whole life thinking you are Sicilo-Norman. Do you have a link to your 23andme PCA plot?


When I first signed up for 23andMe four years ago, I was in France and Norway. Now, after they changed their algorithms or whatever, I am in France, Austria, and Italy. Weird that I do not cluster in Northern Italy as well, since it is between Italy, France, and Austria.

I've said for years that 23andMe's calculators suck, and I stand by that 100%.

I still have several relative finder matches from Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France, and Ireland, and my mtDNA haplogroup is of Scandinavian origin, so while I am further south than it had originally suggested, the admixture is plain as day.

What I do find odd is that there is no-one from Denmark or Normandy-proper. I have Brittany, though.

[Graham]

23andMe's calculators are pretty crap.

[Damião de Góis]

About 23andme plots: while the nothern and southern european ones are useless, i think the Europe one is like any other.... but with some incorrect labels, like "Northern Europeans" being too far south.

[Alessio]

It works pretty well for most people I think.

[Yehiel]

can someone do my map for me? i dont understand how you guys are doing it.

MDLP World22: 89.9% CEU_V (derived) + 10.1% Iranian (derived)

Eurogenes K13: 73.7% Swedish + 26.3% Greek @ 2.42

Dodecad K12b: 78.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.41

[Jackson]

Mine ends up in central Germany this time for some reason, i've done it before and i usually end up between England and Belgium.

[smdamyanovich]

can someone do my map for me? i dont understand how you guys are doing it.

MDLP World22: 89.9% CEU_V (derived) + 10.1% Iranian (derived)

Eurogenes K13: 73.7% Swedish + 26.3% Greek @ 2.42

Dodecad K12b: 78.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.41

Can you send the next best fit for MDLP-22, but such that it does not use generic populations like CEU because these are very broad in terms of selecting a mid point for.

[Catkin]

I tried this the other day, though I didn't draw it on a map, and I've only tried Dodecad and Eurogenes so far.

Dodecad didn't seem to fit too well. Two put me in about south-west Poland, one in southern Germany, and the other just off the Orkneys.

Eurogenes K13 and K15 put me in the North Sea, a little way out from Scotland. That was with the old populations though- Gedmatch only gave me those when I tried it the other day.

I'll try MDLP at some point too.

[Stanley]

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee427/JH9020/Screenshot2014-08-09at40421PM_zps03520bbb.png

Eurogenes K13 83.5% Irish + 16.5% Moldavian @ 3.44
Dodecad K12b 74.4% Kent + 25.6% Hungarians @ 1.1
MDLP World-22 74.5% Swedish + 25.5% Kosovar @ 1.84

Don't think opting to use HarappaWorld would've made much difference, since its top result was really similar to Dodecad's (63.8% British + 36.2% Hungarian).

[Graham]

MDLP imo not good enough. It's an outlier to the rest of the results proven again in Stanleys.

Keep it to Dodecad & Eurogenes and join the dots between all those runs..

[Graham]

My parents

DNA for Eurogenes K13, K15 & Dodecad V3

Mum is Blue
Dad is Red

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map1_zpsc65d4566.jpg

Where their grandparents are from.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map2_zpsdfc9cba6.jpg

[Yehiel]

Can you send the next best fit for MDLP-22, but such that it does not use generic populations like CEU because these are very broad in terms of selecting a mid point for.

okay

92.5% German_V (derived) + 7.5% Iraqi (derived) @ 1.59

[smdamyanovich]

okay

92.5% German_V (derived) + 7.5% Iraqi (derived) @ 1.59

Here is your mapping based on the three sets of coordinates.
http://i.imgur.com/SRrvImB.png

[DRUM]

Seems accurate enough

https://i.imgur.com/bpSyEwi.png

[firemonkey]

Here are my results. I am not skilled enough in this area to do this and was wondering whether some kind person could do it for me.


Eurogenes K15 1 96.5% Irish + 3.5% French_Basque @ 1.74

Eurogenes K13 1 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.44

Eurogenes EU test:

1 65.1% Scottish + 34.9% English @ 1.35

Dodecad K12:

1 98.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.3% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.71





Dodecad v3 1 94% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 6% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 1.34

Dodecad K7B:

1 68.8% Polish (Dodecad) + 31.2% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 0.43



MDLP K5

1 73.9% NRW (Norwegian) + 26.1% MNT (Montenegrin) @ 0.24


MDLP K6

1 79.4% NRW (Norwegian) + 20.6% GGZ (Gagauz) @ 0.39


MDLP world:

1 92.7% German-North + 7.3% Costanoan @ 0.73

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

http://i60.tinypic.com/218ncn.jpg

MDLP WORLD-22 oracle
1 96.2% Turk (derived) + 3.8% Yukagir (derived) @ 2.2
Eurogenes k13
1 82.1% Turkish + 17.9% Turkmen @ 2.34
Dodecad k12b
1 72.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 27.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.79
2 85.9% Turks (Behar) + 14.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.26
3 78.3% Turks (Behar) + 21.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.37
4 82.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 17.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.64
5 90.7% Turks (Behar) + 9.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.99
6 89.1% Turks (Behar) + 10.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.02
Harappa
1 76.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 23.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.07
2 85% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 15% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.37
3 72.1% turkish (harappa) + 27.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.59
4 57.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 42.4% kurd (xing) @ 2.67
5 91.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 8.5% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.74
6 90.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9.4% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.75
7 91% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.77
8 90.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9.2% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.79
9 93.4% turkish (harappa) + 6.6% kazakh (harappa) @ 2.82

[Yuffayur]

I'm a lazy fuck lol.

[Jana]

Mine averages is inside purple web.....it was fun making map, pretty wide area still, but accurate.
http://i.imgur.com/FEKAEV8.png

[Yuffayur]

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10429244_10204049711584716_108563916678091765_n.jp g?oh=53a72bcd9021c1ac2c3d36ee6c03db01&oe=557CAFEC

Accurate.

[Yuffayur]

I made my own version, you do the same instead you use ORACLE 4 and see where the lines overlap. Venn diagram concept:

http://i57.tinypic.com/mryfb9.png


fucking genius

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ihnyj6.png

I'm gonna do that too .

[Albannach]

Would somebody be kind enough to do it for me not very good with these new fangled computer thingy majiggys.

Dodecad V3
79.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 20.6%Dutch (Dodecad)

MDLP World 22
91.5% Norwegian_V + 8.5% Armenian

Eurogenes K13
68.2% Irish + 31.8% Norwegian

[Yuffayur]

https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11041586_10204049900469438_8390332553218556258_n.j pg?oh=d9480aed3439e0ccfa549c88f443c3f4&oe=55801F9D

[Yuffayur]

Would somebody be kind enough to do it for me not very good with these new fangled computer thingy majiggys.

Dodecad V3
79.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 20.6%Dutch (Dodecad)

MDLP World 22
91.5% Norwegian_V + 8.5% Armenian

Eurogenes K13
68.2% Irish + 31.8% Norwegian

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009948_10204049955390811_6404918683646292096_n.j pg?oh=2ba4ca334d4ad55cfa1b6e64811faeb5&oe=55772929&__gda__=1435914582_1964844fd1b2b8837906e77c52d9b98 3

[nihilsciens]

Single population sharing:
55550

Two populations sharing:
55551

Genealogically accurate:
55552

[Catkin]

My poor attempt! :P

Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad V3 both put me just off of Scotland (approx 96% Orcadian and 4% something far away for all the closest results).

Eurogenes K15 puts me between SW England and W Norway (next closest results were 89% Orcadian 11% Ukrainian, and 81% Orcadian 19% E. German etc, so would all be around the same area again).


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8577/16477877417_e5cfe40806.jpg

To be honest I don't really know what I'm doing up there

[Jackson]

My poor attempt! :P

Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad V3 both put me just off of Scotland (approx 96% Orcadian and 4% something far away for all the closest results).

Eurogenes K15 puts me between SW England and W Norway (next closest results were 89% Orcadian 11% Ukrainian, and 81% Orcadian 19% E. German etc, so would all be around the same area again).


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8577/16477877417_e5cfe40806.jpg

To be honest I don't really know what I'm doing up there

Do you like sailing? :D

[Catkin]

Do you like sailing? :D

:P Actually lots of my family love sailing- my uncle owns a boat and used to live on it. I love the sea and being in water in general, my job is even related to the sea. Maybe there is something to it! ;)

[nihilsciens]

:P Actually lots of my family love sailing- my uncle owns a boat and used to live on it. I love the sea and being in water in general, my job is even related to the sea. Maybe there is something to it! ;)

Doggerlandian? :)

[Catkin]

Doggerlandian? :)

I think so, and I think I should be able to lay claim to the North Sea oil! :dancing:

[Jackson]

I think so, and I think I should be able to lay claim to the North Sea oil! :dancing:

You should organize an insurrection on one of the rigs and establish a new state, the Catkin Oil State of the North Sea (COSONS).

I think one of the military sea platforms off of the coast of Essex is technically a separate entity (although unrecognized by the UK) xD.

http://www.sealandgov.org/

[Catkin]

You should organize an insurrection on one of the rigs and establish a new state, the Catkin Oil State of the North Sea (COSONS).

I think one of the military sea platforms off of the coast of Essex is technically a separate entity (although unrecognized by the UK) xD.

http://www.sealandgov.org/

Right! Consider it done. I'll live on that until Doggerland rises once more from the sea! I will let some of you come visit me, I'll even send you home with a bucket of freshly squeezed oil :p.

(You'd never guess from the above that I had a geology degree would you? Money well spent :P)

[Graham]

Do you like sailing? :D

Plenty of rigs that way with helecopters from Aberdeen.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/1a/7b/e01a7ba1f10df8d6d8d35791f2a5056b.jpg

[Graham]

Would somebody be kind enough to do it for me not very good with these new fangled computer thingy majiggys.

Dodecad V3
79.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 20.6%Dutch (Dodecad)

MDLP World 22
91.5% Norwegian_V + 8.5% Armenian

Eurogenes K13
68.2% Irish + 31.8% Norwegianhttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55558&d=1425240206

[Catkin]

Plenty of rigs that way with helecopters from Aberdeen.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e0/1a/7b/e01a7ba1f10df8d6d8d35791f2a5056b.jpg

Git orf me land! :aufsmaul_2:

[firemonkey]

Here are my results. I am not skilled enough in this area to do this and was wondering whether some kind person could do it for me.


Eurogenes K15 1 96.5% Irish + 3.5% French_Basque @ 1.74

Eurogenes K13 1 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.44

Eurogenes EU test:

1 65.1% Scottish + 34.9% English @ 1.35

Dodecad K12:

1 98.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 1.3% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.71





Dodecad v3 1 94% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 6% Balkans (Dodecad) @ 1.34

Dodecad K7B:

1 68.8% Polish (Dodecad) + 31.2% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 0.43



MDLP K5

1 73.9% NRW (Norwegian) + 26.1% MNT (Montenegrin) @ 0.24


MDLP K6

1 79.4% NRW (Norwegian) + 20.6% GGZ (Gagauz) @ 0.39


MDLP world:

1 92.7% German-North + 7.3% Costanoan @ 0.73


Could someone please do mine. Thank you very much.

[Gooding]

Somebody please help.. I know, this is stupid, but I can't figure this out. Eurogenes EU test has me pegged as 50.1% South and Central Swedish = 49.9% French, Eurogenes K13 has me as 91.2% North Dutch + 8.8% Sardinian. Dodecad has me at 78.8% Orkney + 21.2% Balkans. MDLP K=12 says 70.2% French= 29.8% Estonian ( MDLP K=12 has my primaries as French and German right down the line). How do I avoid scribbling all over the map with stats like this??

[Yuffayur]

Could someone please do mine. Thank you very much.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10406970_10204054490624189_3907799523551766595_n.j pg?oh=fa9f3a86585f61c9cdc33b24f818d983&oe=557FAEC9&__gda__=1430967007_abb86e19a4e83e4b8b3afb09e5a79a6 6

[firemonkey]

Thank you Yuffayur.

[Yuffayur]

Thank you Yuffayur.

Your welcome.

[Longbowman]

http://i60.tinypic.com/161kpqo.jpg

K15: 1st option: 62.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.2% Southwest_French @2.01
Dodecad K7b: 2nd option: 95.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 4.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 0.44 (1st option: 83.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.42)
MDLP K22: 6th option: 87.8% Greek_Center (derived) + 12.2% Bedouin (derived) @ 1.51

http://i61.tinypic.com/vqpcg2.jpg

Am I Albo enough?

K15: 4th option: Lebanese_Muslim + Lebanese_Muslim + Spanish_Andalucia + Tuscan @ 2.077186 (1st option: Sephardic, Spanish Castilla Y Leon, Tunisian Jew, Turkish)
Dodecad K7b: 1st option: Adygei + Morocco_Jews + Sardinian + Sicilian @ 0.000000
MDLP K22: 10th option: Greek_Center + Greek_South + Italian-North + Palestinian @ 1.178873 (1st option: Bulgarian, Corsican, Druze, Moroccan Jew)

[Not a Cop]

Am I Albo enough?


Cough must cough cough remove cough kebab.


On topic i'm kinda lazy to make a new map, but when i did a similar research calcs put mostly inside, or sometimes around the Pskov oblast, 4 pops being 2xRussian 1xFinnish or Karelian\Veps and 1 N. German\Scandinavian, seems like i live pretty close to my "genetical location".

http://i.imgur.com/3h9DFjo.png

[Longbowman]

Cough must cough cough remove cough kebab.


On topic i'm kinda lazy to make a new map, but when i did a similar research calcs put mostly inside, or sometimes around the Pskov oblast, 4 pops being 2xRussian 1xFinnish or Karelian\Veps and 1 N. German\Scandinavian, seems like i live pretty close to my "genetical location".

http://i.imgur.com/3h9DFjo.png

Kebab? Autochtonous.

[Nurzat]

accurate for me ! (Carpathian Highlander, at the crossroads of Slavic, Germanic and Balkan peoples)

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009107_10202752978865442_8268765526574087211_n.j pg?oh=ed2ba82e010915277605a14770ff1c65&oe=5594E471

[Catkin]

My dad's results are quite strange from his known ancestry... South-east English/London with a smidge of German and Irish. It's very odd he is so NW. His 3 closest populations are K13= Irish, K15= Orcadian, V3= Argyll. If he didn't look so much like his dad I'd be suspicious...(sorry nan!), but his dad looked like him, only I think more Germanic than he does. I should post some pictures.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8642/16097475303_712486ecab.jpg

[Jana]

accurate for me ! (Carpathian Highlander, at the crossroads of Slavic, Germanic and Balkan peoples)

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009107_10202752978865442_8268765526574087211_n.j pg?oh=ed2ba82e010915277605a14770ff1c65&oe=5594E471

Almost identical area sa mine, although you did it more precise and minimalistic. Interesting

[Patches]

Oh my... I didn't even pay attention to the locations pertaining to the admixture, my bad. I just went through and picked out some of my oracle results since Gedmatch hasn't been working for me , sorry about that. Well here are some results if someone would be kind enough to map my location.

Eurogenes K15:
66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% West_German @ 2.14

MDLP K12:
75.4% FRN (French) + 24.6% LTV (Latvian) @ 2.1

Eurogenes K13:
81.4% Danish + 18.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.73

[Longbowman]

Would anyone be friendly enough to help me map my location(took some out to help the map size :))?
K15:
66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% West_German @ 2.14

MDLP K23:
64.2% Belgian ( ) + 35.8% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.86

MDLP K12:
75.4% FRN (French) + 24.6% LTV (Latvian) @ 2.1

I wouldn't really use Volga Germans. They're ethnic Germans, but I wouldn't know where to plot them - they're from the Russian Volga region, but not autochtonous to the area.

[Not a Cop]

I wouldn't really use Volga Germans. They're ethnic Germans, but I wouldn't know where to plot them - they're from the Russian Volga region, but not autochtonous to the area.

Rheinland, Baden, Hessen

[Longbowman]

Rheinland, Baden, Hessen

Yes but he should still find one without a recently transplanted population.

[Lawalye]

http://s27.postimg.org/wx9c5psgv/Capture_d_cran_18.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/wx9c5psgv/)

Made on google earth

[AtlantoMediterranean]

I took the least distant calculators from MDLP World, Eurogenes and Dodecad.
So that gives that :

Dodecad K7b Oracle results: 1 79,40% North_Italian (HGDP) 20,60% Somali (Dodecad) 1,49
MDLP World Oracle results: 1 70,80% Provancal 29,20% Jew_Ethiopia 2,39
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results: 1 57,10% Algerian 42,90% Southwest_English 3,05

74059

https://zupimages.net/up/18/14/54hq.png (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/14/54hq.png)

haha a lot of fleet with a little bit of Malta, Sicily, Tunisia, Sardinia, Catalonia. Not very localized ^^

[AtlantoMediterranean]

Maybe more precision with oracle 4, i check ..

[AtlantoMediterranean]

Indeed a little more precise.

74062

https://zupimages.net/up/18/14/kghe.png (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/14/kghe.png)

[de Burgh II]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15:

1 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_French @ 1.857995

MDLP K23b:

Belgian_ + English_ + French_ + Irish_ @ 1.119944

PuntDNAL K15:

North_German + South_German + French + French @ 1.485476

https://s9.postimg.cc/ttpd5bysv/Untitled.jpg

[DarkWater]

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/1093/media/dd1ecb8a-e69e-4d8a-b2a4-ce1e569480cb.jpg?client=Trees&imageQuality=hq&maxWidth=1347.2000200748444&maxHeight=702.4000104665756

[DarkWater]

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/1093/media/dd1ecb8a-e69e-4d8a-b2a4-ce1e569480cb.jpg?client=Trees&imageQuality=hq&maxWidth=1347.2000200748444&maxHeight=702.4000104665756

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/1093/media/ed9cbe2f-dbe7-45be-a049-f23bde257e0f.jpg?client=Trees&imageQuality=hq&maxWidth=1347.2000200748444&maxHeight=702.4000104665756

[Kaspias]

Thoughts?

https://image.ibb.co/iYygEy/1200px_A_large_blank_world_map_with_oceans_marked_ in_blue_1.png

[Rgvgjhvv]

Thoughts?

https://image.ibb.co/eVaBEy/1200px_A_large_blank_world_map_with_oceans_marked_ in_blue.png

I think you did this incorrectly? When there's a higher % of something, the dot must go nearer to that location, not closer to the location with the smaller %.

[Kaspias]

I think you did this incorrectly? When there's a higher % of something, the dot must go nearer to that location, not closer to the location with the smaller %.

Thanks! I edited with correct one.

[Bunalim]

Should've stated at the beginning of the guide that you need that McDonald plot map. I emailed him months ago and got no reply :(

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/o6Xj1ab.png

red - Eurogenes K13
light blue - Eurogenes K15
dark blue - Dodecad V2
purple - Dodecad K7b
green - Dodecad K12b