The Filipino Anthropological Issues Thread

[Vesuvian Sky]

The Philippines is a highly Roman Catholic country and cause of such (and when I've spoken to others about this they usually counter with the conservative Roman Catholic response) they can be viewed as somewhat conservative people regarding moralistic behavior and what not.

However, nearly everyone I've met from there are extremely sexual. Many of the women have hit on me in very obvious ways (some 'older' and with two kids even!) and the men seem rather 'mensa-mensa' (if you know what I mean :rolleyes:) at times and are very flirty themselves. It is a rather sexual culture too from what I've heard others mention who've done Peace Corp work over there.

I was wondering if others here found this to be the case and why may this be so? Is this a fair observation of the culture?

Discuss.

[Dictator]

All I know about them is that they have an annoying identity issue.

[zhaoyun]

Inb4 Selurong/Saludong

Filipinos are pretty liberal and open sexually from my experience, but they still approach relationships in a more traditional fashion.

[Vesuvian Sky]

All I know about them is that they have an annoying identity issue.

Interesting. Does this concern gender identities or ethnic/cultural ones you've noticed? Or both.

[Dictator]

Interesting. Does this concern gender identities or ethnic/cultural ones you've noticed? Or both.

Ethnic and cultural. About genders, dunno.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Inb4 Selurong/Saludong

Filipinos are pretty liberal and open sexually from my experience, but they still approach relationships in a more traditional fashion.

I've generally noticed this too but they can have conservative aspects to them as well regarding.

[Skerdilaid]

I have observed a similar thing. In my work environment I encounter quite a bit of them, and they are very flirtious, dudes and girls.


I find them to be very outgoing and somewhat more happy then other ethnic groups.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Ethnic and cultural. About genders, dunno.

I think I've heard this before. It may or may not involve Spanish roots as I vaguely understand.

[zhaoyun]

I have observed a similar thing. In my work environment I encounter quite a bit of them, and they are very flirtious, dudes and girls.


I find them to be very outgoing and somewhat more happy then other ethnic groups.

They're definitely way more happy and easygoing than Chinese people for damn sure.

[Vesuvian Sky]

I find them to be very outgoing and somewhat more happy then other ethnic groups.

Sometimes a little too happy if you get my drift. :/

[Vesuvian Sky]

Part of my concern which I noticed over the years (and again tonight) was discussed over at yahoo answers:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110411233847AAyIadu

The first answer could easily be an Apricity one.

[Skerdilaid]

They're definitely way more happy and easygoing than Chinese people for damn sure.

I think so too. Chinese in general keep to their own here, unless they are not the first generation. Fillipino in other hand socialize a lot more with other groups, but maybe that has to do with their smaller number, or they just are more outgoing and differ in culture with Chinese. Also Chinese girls are very shy in general, unlike Fillipino girls.

[zhaoyun]

I think so too. Chinese in general keep to their own here, unless they are not the first generation. Fillipino in other hand socialize a lot more with other groups, but maybe that has to do with their smaller number, or they just are more outgoing and differ in culture with Chinese. Also Chinese girls are very shy in general, unlike Fillipino girls.

Filipinos are a lot more outgoing and deal with foreigners a lot easier. Filipinos are the most Westernized Asians so its easy for them to adapt to Western/Euro countries. Chinese come from a very ethnocentric culture and they are quite outgoing when the foreigner learns and speaks Chinese, but it is far harder for them to adapt to foreign cultures.

[Skerdilaid]

Sometimes a little too happy if you get my drift. :/

I do ;)

[zhaoyun]

Part of my concern which I noticed over the years (and again tonight) was discussed over at yahoo answers:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110411233847AAyIadu

The first answer could easily be an Apricity one.

I noticed that there are a lot of openly gay and very flamboyant Filipino guys, it seems to be encouraged amongst gay Filipinos for some reason.

But there are also a lot of really macho and tough Filipino guys. I grew up around a lot of Filipinos so I've seen all types, many of the Filipino guys were into Black culture, called each other nigga, and were wannabe thugs, so definitely didnt act gay.

Watch this video. VERY CALIFORNIA FILIPINO.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESgcExetso

[Vesuvian Sky]

I noticed that there are a lot of openly gay and very flamboyant Filipino guys, it seems to be encouraged amongst gay Filipinos for some reason.

But there are also a lot of really macho and tough Filipino guys. I grew up around a lot of Filipinos so I've seen all types, many of the Filipino guys were into Black culture, called each other nigga, and were wannabe thugs, so definitely didnt act gay.

Watch this video. VERY CALIFORNIA FILIPINO.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESgcExetso

Too be perfectly honest, they still come off as gay even when they try and be super macho. :/

And this ain't meant to be a troll thread either. I have a very different concept of masculinity because:

a) I come from a Western cultural background but also...
b) being raised in the Anglosphere
c) the times I grew up in

Its interesting you bring up the affinity towards black culture. I was thinking to myself tonight in very generalists ways "you know, the Filipine people are kinda outwardly like the black people, except they usually aren't as hate-filled or belligerent/anger etc.".

[zhaoyun]

Too be perfectly honest, they still come off as gay even when they try and be super macho. :/

And this ain't meant to be a troll thread either. I have a very different concept of masculinity because:

a) I come from a Western cultural background but also...
b) being raised in the Anglosphere
c) the times I grew up in

Its interesting you bring up the affinity towards black culture. I was thinking to myself tonight in very generalists ways "you know, the Filipine people are kinda outwardly like the black people, except they usually aren't as hate-filled or belligerent/anger etc.".

Well, Filipinos are known to be great dancers, great singers and great dressers. From my experience, they are pretty flashy people. East Asians are a lot more low key about things. Filipinos like to display the bling. Also, they are very extroverted as a culture.

Plus you have to consider they have been extremely westernized in two ways, for several centuries under the Spaniards, then half a century under the Americans. So they've received influences from both.

[Dictator]

Sincerely, I prefer Japanese culture lol.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Well, Filipinos are known to be great dancers, great singers and great dressers. From my experience, they are pretty flashy people. East Asians are a lot more low key about things. Filipinos like to display the bling. Also, they are very extroverted as a culture.

Plus you have to consider they have been extremely westernized in two ways, for several centuries under the Spaniards, then half a century under the Americans. So they've received influences from both.

I think alot of modern western culture has come under hip-hop influences. Which I don't consider to represent the tr00 West. Needless to say, I draw a stark line between what comes to define being tough today to what it meant yesterday.

But I'd agree they are completely different then East Asian cultures in their extroversion. The Japanese of course come to mind here who I found highly introverted while over there. Sometimes frustratingly so (too much of the other end).

I think the Filipino character is more embracing too of others. But I think that comes uniquely from themselves.

[Selurong]

The Philippines is a highly Roman Catholic country and cause of such (and when I've spoken to others about this they usually counter with the conservative Roman Catholic response) they can be viewed as somewhat conservative people regarding moralistic behavior and what not.

However, nearly everyone I've met from there are extremely sexual. Many of the women have hit on me in very obvious ways (some 'older' and with two kids even!) and the men seem rather 'mensa-mensa' (if you know what I mean :rolleyes:) at times and are very flirty themselves. It is a rather sexual culture too from what I've heard others mention who've done Peace Corp work over there.

I was wondering if others here found this to be the case and why may this be so? Is this a fair observation of the culture?

Discuss.

Yes this is true we are a very very sexual culture but at the same time highly prize virginity and chastity. I myself love to flirt, dance and romance alot of girls, but I draw boundaries and still work hard to guard my chastity. I am a typical example.

As for the seeming large supply of homosexuals. Nah man, the rate of Filipinos who are homosexual are the same as in any other country; which is usually only around 5-6% of the total population but it may just seem to be that more Filipinos are homosexual because we are more accepting of them and heck we even adapt some of their argot and mannerisms.

And the Catholicism thing is huge part of our lives. It was even more huge in the past wherein the only force that united the various kingdoms of the Philippines and prevented us from killing each other in our highly balkanized state was the imposition of a common religion and a common tongue. Hence, that's why Catholicism is important to us.

[clete27]

Sincerely, I prefer Japanese culture lol.

hey nobody give a fuck about how much you dont like Filipinos. If you dont like them so much, then why are you in every single thread about Filipinos? Obsessed you are.

[Dictator]

hey nobody give a fuck about how much you dont like Filipinos. If you dont like them so much, then why are you in every single thread about Filipinos? Obsessed you are.

Excuse me? :laugh: what's you problem lol?

[clete27]

Philippines aint a Catholic country. It's a voodoo country, and most people believe that stuff rather than Catholicism. There is also an exploding Evangelical Protestant and Charismatic Catholic movement. They basically believe the same things and act the same. Filipinos who actually follow and believe Catholicism are rare.

Filipino society is confusing to you all because it seems to be a contradiction, but it's not. It's a live and let live society, but the people are generally conservative. So they dress and act conservatively, but they dont care if someone is gay or if their neighbor is a prostitute, or if a black crackhead moves next door. It's all accepted. Live and let live.

[Styrian Mujo]

I'm still confused as to what Philippines are racially. When I was younger I always thought they were dark east Asians. Sorry if this is off-topic.

[clete27]

I'm still confused as to what Philippines are racially. When I was younger I always thought they were dark east Asians. Sorry if this is off-topic.

dark East Asians are Vietnamese. Filipinos are a spectrum from East Asian-looking people (pure Mongoloids) to Micronesian-looking people (Mongoloid/Australoid mixed) with a few pure Australoid (Negritos)

[clete27]

I'm still confused as to what Philippines are racially. When I was younger I always thought they were dark east Asians. Sorry if this is off-topic.

here's a good sample of Filipinos. Some look like dark East Asians but some dont look East Asian at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLRqbKdZ5Rc

[Selurong]

Then there a few Filipinos here who are part European. I.E Simple, who's mom's surname "Rous" is French or me, my mum's surname is "Bascos" which is Portuguese.

[Dictator]

Then there a few Filipinos here who are part European. I.E Simple, who's mom's surname "Rous" is French or me, my mum's surname is "Bascos" which is Portuguese.

Bascos doesn't look Portuguese.

[Selurong]

Bascos doesn't look Portuguese.

Its Portuguese. My mum's clan has dropped and added letters to their surname with every new race they married. It was Vasco when they lived in Malacca, then Vascos when they moved to Macau and became Bascos when they moved to Pangasinan. That's to differentiate the different branches of the family tree. Wherein the pure Vasco branch is straight whereas we are out-branches that have miscagenated with Malacans, Japs and Chinese. But ultimately, her origins are Basque and her forefathers come from Basque country.

[Dictator]

Its Portuguese. My mum's clan has dropped and added letters to their surname with every new race they married. It was Vasco when they lived in Malacca, then Vascos when they moved to Macau and became Bascos when they moved to Pangasinan. That's to differentiate the different branches of the family tree. Wherein the pure Vasco branch is straight whereas we are out-branches that have miscagenated with Malacans, Japs and Chinese. But ultimately, her origins are Basque and her forefathers come from Basque country.
Vasco is Spanish.

[Wadaad]

You cannot hate on Filipinos. Combining Asian traditional values with the just the right amount of colonial domestication makes Filipinos the best immigrants...hard working with not alot of 'trouble making'. I still remember my 2nd grade music teacher, Mrs Navidad, who was Filipino and I must say she was my favourite teacher to this day.

[Selurong]

Vasco is Spanish.

What? She's part Portuguese. Why the hell did her family come from all them Portuguese colonies? Malacca and then Macau?

I'll give you an example of Portuguese-descended people with the Vasco surname:

André Vasco

André Vasco (born September 8, 1984) is a Brazilian actor and television presenter. He is best known as the host of Qual é o Seu Talento?, the Brazilian version of the Got Talent series.[1]

Lol. You just hate Filipinos and you don't want a Filipino to be related to Lusitania.

[Dictator]

What? She's part Portuguese. Why the hell did her family come from all them Portuguese colonies? Malacca and then Macau?

I'll give you an example of Portuguese-descended people with the Vasco surname:

André Vasco

André Vasco (born September 8, 1984) is a Brazilian actor and television presenter. He is best known as the host of Qual é o Seu Talento?, the Brazilian version of the Got Talent series.[1]

Lol. You just hate Filipinos and you don't want a Filipino to be related to Lusitania.

Just because he is Brazilian it doesn't mean that he is of Portuguese ancestry or that his surname is Portuguese. Vasco is a Spanish surname and your Portuguese ancestry most likely is basque.

[Selurong]

Just because he is Brazilian it doesn't mean that he is of Portuguese ancestry or that his surname is Portuguese. Vasco is a Spanish surname and your Portuguese ancestry most likely is basque.

We'll there were several Italians, Portuguese, and Spaniards who worked as soldiers in each other's countries.

They're Basques who worked under the Portuguese empire.

There are tons of that, i.e: Christopher Colombus, an Italian who worked for Spain or Fernão de Magalhães, a Portuguese by blood, but Spanish by nationality.

They were just the opposite, Basque by blood but Portuguese by nationality. But just because they were originally Basque that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be considered Portuguese because they spent alot of generations defending Portuguese interests in Asia.

We'll, that's before their empire crumbled all around them.

[Dictator]

We'll there were several Italians, Portuguese, and Spaniards who worked as soldiers in each other's countries.

They're Basques who worked under the Portuguese empire.

There are tons of that, i.e: Christopher Colombus, an Italian who worked for Spain or Fernão de Magalhães, a Portuguese by blood, but Spanish by nationality.

They were just the opposite, Basque by blood but Portuguese by nationality. But just because they were originally Basque that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be considered Portuguese because they spent alot of generations defending Portuguese interests in Asia.

We'll, that's before their empire crumbled all around them.

Basque by blood = non Portuguese. In the same way ethnic Germans working for, let's say, japaneses for some generations aren't Japanese no matter what.

[Selurong]

Also, do you know what you get when you mix an East Asian person with a European one?

This.

http://hapavoice.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hapa24.jpg

~Daniel Sitterle from Hapavoices
http://hapavoice.com/2010/08/12/korean-french/

He's French-Korean. And he looks like an ordinary Filipino. :rolleyes:

http://www.surrogatefinder.com/Photo/couples_1de56f95b53db79ee436a83120fee29e.jpg
Just some random Filipino dude I randomly Googled.

Now what do you get when you mix a Filipino with a European?


The minority-dormant genes present in the Filipino parent kicks in and the recessive genes from the partner gets expressed.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8jw0c3Qbv1ruhlk8.gif

Darren Chris from Glee (Half Irish-Half Filipino)

That's the difference from having children that look like Filipinos (Marrying East Asians)
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/a851809e1917a07d287b26ea020431cf1225744194_full.pn g
i.e: Marie Digby (Half Irish half Japanese)

And having children that look like Castizos.

i.e: Jason Metzger (Half Filipino half American)
http://imgmf0.starnow.com/89/2445389_4092355.jpg

And Mae Zelivabova (Half Filipino half Russian)
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/a2fd1d906dce9484bbc5c032534db9491317946989_full.jp g

Go ahead and admire a Japanese girl, King Carlos. She'll halve your features rather than express it.

[Selurong]

Basque by blood = non Portuguese. In the same way ethnic Germans working for, let's say, japaneses for some generations aren't Japanese no matter what.

But anybody who lives in Brazil is automatically Brazilian...

[simple]

I will answer the question based on my own upbringing and I cannot answer the question for general Filipinos. I was born and grew up in the Philippines, I basically grew up almost in a catholic ways and tradition as both side of my family are very much attached to it and I studied in a catholic school at the same time since I was kindergarten until High School. Specially if you also came from a very well known catholic town all over the country and a part of your family member is a catholic priest. They thought me a lot of good moral values which I value a lot.

[Selurong]

I will answer the question based on my own upbringing and I cannot answer the question for general Filipinos. I was born and grew up in the Philippines, I basically grew up almost in a catholic ways and tradition as both side of my family are very much attached to it and I studied in a catholic school at the same time since I was kindergarten until High School. Specially if you also came from a very well known catholic town all over the country and a part of your family member is a catholic priest. They thought me a lot of good moral values which I value a lot.

Ecclesia est firma en las islas Filipinas

(Latin for, the Church is strong in the Philippine islands)

[simple]

Ecclesia est firma en las islas Filipinas

(Latin for, the Church is strong in the Philippine islands)

I am proud Catholic! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmUlw1Z-Xm8
^my hometown

[Selurong]

I am proud Catholic! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmUlw1Z-Xm8
^

Yeah, me too. It's actually abit of a miracle that we have been Catholic for so long when we have been surrounded by Non-Catholic nations on all sides and the next Catholic area is Mexico (from which we imported the veneration of the black Nazarene) which is half the distance of the planet, away...

And, our Lady of Manaoag has produced alot of miracles.

[simple]

Yeah, me too. It's actually abit of a miracle that we have been Catholic for so long when we have been surrounded by Non-Catholic nations on all sides and the next Catholic area is Mexico (from which we imported the veneration of the black Nazarene) which is half the distance of the planet, away...

And, our Lady of Manaoag has produced alot of miracles.

People in Manaoag are very much active in Church, the formation of our town is actually centered in the church which is located on top of the hill.
all the roads in the main town connects the center.

This how it looks like before
http://kalongkong.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/manaoag-pangasinan.jpg
Photo was taken on the top of the hill where the church is located even up to this day

[Dictator]

But anybody who lives in Brazil is automatically Brazilian...

But "Brazilian" isn't an ethnicity.

[Selurong]

But "Brazilian" isn't an ethnicity.
Sure.

[Dictator]

Sure.

Ask Uhtred, Curupira or Petry. They will say the same thing.

[Selurong]

People in Manaoag are very much active in Church, the formation of our town is actually centered in the church which is located on top of the hill.
all the roads in the main town connects the center.

This how it looks like before
http://kalongkong.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/manaoag-pangasinan.jpg
Photo was taken on the top of the hill where the church is located even up to this day

I love them old Churches. But I especially love the Churches designed as castles.

I.E: This Church in Cuyo, Palawan near Puerto Princessa City. (the church inside was repainted but the walls remained the same)

http://simbahan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/recollect_cuyo.jpg

The church looks like a castle.

Puerto Princessa city was established by soldiers from Colombia with the help of the Recollect Order. And they built this Church which doubled as a fortress because they tried to Christianize then Muslim Palawan, which was once a territory of the Sultanate of Sulu.

The Patron Saint of Colombia and a former bishop of Pasto, Colombia; Saint Ezekiel Moreno is also the founder of Puerto Princessa city.

[Selurong]

Ask Uhtred, Curupira or Petry. They will say the same thing.

Ok man.

[clete27]

All I know about them is that they have an annoying identity issue.

oh sure. That's why these obviously mixed ancestry Filipinas all said "I'm 100% Filipino" (question 7). Because Filipinos dont know or care about their distant foreign ancestries. It's not like in the US where everyone says "I'm mixed with German, Indian, Chinese, African, Swedish, etc etc etc" even though they're just American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBD9JxK_JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSYwC8UUtUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-lnvLSIkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds790aaTFcU

[Dictator]

oh sure. That's why these obviously mixed ancestry Filipinas all said "I'm 100% Filipino" (question 7). Because Filipinos dont know or care about their distant foreign ancestries. It's not like in the US where everyone says "I'm mixed with German, Indian, Chinese, African, Swedish, etc etc etc" even though they're just American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBD9JxK_JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSYwC8UUtUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-lnvLSIkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds790aaTFcU

http://www.philstar.com/supreme/2013/07/06/962031/filipinas/pilipinas-national-identity-crisis
http://www.studymode.com/essays/Philippine-National-Identity-436866.html
http://teresay.com/filipinas-pilipinas-philippines-identity-issue/
Etc etc hundreds of links. Deal with it.

[clete27]

http://www.philstar.com/supreme/2013/07/06/962031/filipinas/pilipinas-national-identity-crisis
http://www.studymode.com/essays/Philippine-National-Identity-436866.html
http://teresay.com/filipinas-pilipinas-philippines-identity-issue/
Etc etc hundreds of links. Deal with it.

The identity crisis is due the mixture of cultures, and the 170 different ethnic groups and languages that we have. Bisayans dont like Tagalogs, Tagalogs think they're the best because their language is official. Ilocanos are too dark. Bicolanos are lazy. Warays are mean. That's what the identity crisis is. But I'm absolutely sure that thats not what you meant, because you have no idea about that. But if you go to this Philippines and ask the people if they give a fuck about the Spanish, they will say no. And they dont care about having Spanish blood or speaking Spanish or anything about the Spanish. Spanish was more than a century ago.

[Dictator]

The identity crisis is due the mixture of cultures, and the 170 different ethnic groups and languages that we have. Bisayans dont like Tagalogs, Tagalogs think they're the best because their language is official. Ilocanos are too dark. Bicolanos are lazy. Warays are mean. That's what the identity crisis is. But I'm absolutely sure that thats not what you meant, because you have no idea about that. But if you go to this Philippines and ask the people if they give a fuck about the Spanish, they will say no. And they dont care about having Spanish blood or speaking Spanish or anything about the Spanish. Spanish was more than a century ago.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. ;)

[Vesuvian Sky]

Most Philippine people I've met rarely identify with "Spanish-ness". Most I've met trump up Tagalog speaking roots so to speak. Genetics more or less has shown what I've always expected:


Filipinos are an Austronesian people, a linguistic and genetic group that includes other ethnicities from maritime Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and the Pacific islands.[70] The most frequently occurring Y-DNA haplogroup among modern Filipinos is Haplogroup O3-M122, which is found with high frequency in populations from East Asia, Southeast Asia, and Polynesia. In particular, the type of O3-M122 that is found frequently in Filipinos, O-P201(xM7, M134), is also found frequently in other Austronesian populations, especially the Batak Toba from Sumatra and the Polynesians.[71] Haplogroup O1a-M119 (labeled as "Haplogroup H" in this study) is also commonly found among Filipinos and is shared with other Austronesian-speaking populations, especially those in Taiwan, western Indonesia, and Madagascar.[72][73] After the 16th century, the colonial period saw the influx of limited genetic influence from Europeans and other populations from the Americas, Oceania, and Asia.

I can't help to think its somewhat of a trumped up internet thing. The more pressing issue is why so hyper sexed up all the time?

[simple]

Most Philippine people I've met rarely identify with "Spanish-ness". Most I've met trump up Tagalog speaking roots so to speak. Genetics more or less has shown what I've always expected:



I can't help to think its somewhat of a trumped up internet thing. The more pressing issue is why so hyper sexed up all the time?

Well the location of the Philippines is far from any other European countries so most of the European that came to the Philippines were men during the 16th century. It takes more than 3 months from Americas or Europe to get in the Philippines and some of these Europeans didn't even make it due to the distance while they were in a ship so some of them died during the trip. My French GGG Grandfather came in when the Suez Canal was opened because it takes only less than 3 months to get in the Philippines, these was mostly during the early or middle of 19th century, when they open the Philippines to the other Europeans.

Most of them they open up their own business and I guess they would like to try their luck in the Pearl of the Orient. My GGG Grandfather open up a winery shop in Escolta & married my Filipina GGG Grandmother.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Well the location of the Philippines is far from any other European countries so most of the European that came to the Philippines were men during the 16th century. It takes more than 3 months from Americas or Europe to get in the Philippines and some of these Europeans didn't even make it due to the distance while they were in a ship so some of them died during the trip

Quite honestly, I don't see too much European in the phenotypes of the Philippine people I've met over the years unless they are say from half Irish American half Filipino house background like one guy I know. But he's of course an American descended from such a mix. Regardless, most I've met directly from the Philippines don't look like him.

[clete27]

You know nothing, Jon Snow. ;)

The identity crisis caused by the 170 different ethnic groups in the Philippines is not something you know about and it's definitely not what you were referring to in your first post..

[Dictator]

The identity crisis caused by the 170 different ethnic groups in the Philippines is not something you know about and it's definitely not what you were referring to in your first post..

Yes, because only filipinos can know that there are more than 100 different ethnic groups and whatever.

[simple]

Quite honestly, I don't see too much European in the phenotypes of the Philippine people I've met over the years unless they are say from half Irish American half Filipino house background like one guy I know. But he's of course an American descended from such a mix. Regardless, most I've met directly from the Philippines don't look like him.

Here are some of them from Toto Gonzalez Blog, I think I met him in forumbiodiversity and surprised to know he knew my GGG Grandfather too ...

quite a few in the business community in the Philippines (commerce, shipping, banking, real estate, agriculture, media, etc.) are descended from families from northern Spain (mostly Basque).

Quite a few are from Navarra (Navarre) and established themselves among the merchant elite in Manila and the sugar barons of the Visayas: Elizalde, Legarda, Arrieta, Arlegui, Lizárraga, Belzunce, Echarri, Arrastia, Arraiza, Echegoyen, Oquiñena.

In Manila, many of the old merchant families and civil servants were from the Basque Country of northern Spain. Many were also recruited to work in the Filipino-Basque, Navarrese, and Spanish-owned businesses, such as Ynchausti y Compañía, Elizalde and Company, Aldecoa y Compañía, Sociedad Lizárraga Hermanos, the Jai-Alai Frontón, Compañía General de Tabacos de Filipinas, the San Miguel Corporation, etc.: de Azcárraga, Azaola, Gorostiza, Irastorza (Yrastorza), de Ynchausti, Yrisarry, Teus, Zabarte, de Ayala, Zangróniz, Aguirre, Menchatorre, de Otadui, Gorricho, de Larrañaga, Mondragón, de Irureta-Goyena, Salazar, Arando, Vergara, de Zuzuarregui, de Zulueta, de Yriarte (Iriarte), de Gárriz, de Ubago, Olondriz, Tamayo, Oteyza, Echevarría, Yrezábal, Costas, de Azparren, Iturralde, de Rotaeche, de Egozcue, Aurrecoechea, de Tellechea, de Zaracondegui, de Barainka, Larrabeiti, de Egurrola, de Eiguren, de Amusategui, de Erenchun, de Jauregui, de Leguina, Gamegoicoechea, Dampierre, Urra, Daudén, de Loyzaga, de Ibazeta, Eizmendi, Eleizegui, de Larrazábal, Ibañez de Aldecoa, Trápaga, Matute, Artadi, Goitia, Got, Mendieta, Maldonado, de Sarasola, Loinaz, García, Malluquiza, de Argarate, de Garteiz, Guixasola, Guerrero.

In the Bicol Region, many immigrants from northern Spain joined the trading firms (originally abaca and copra) operating there or established their own haciendas: de Ursúa, Garchitorena, Barrenechea, Zuluaga, Alegría, Oturbe, Larrauri, Achával, Michelena, Anduiza, Barainca, Espinosa, Zubeldia, Goitisolo, de Madarieta, Anzorandia, del Gallego.

In the Western Visayas, one finds some very old Basque mestizo clans in Iloilo (e.g., Araneta), in addition to 19th and 20th century immigrants from the Basque Country who established a great many of the modern sugar plantations on the island of Negros (most of these families are still fixtures in Negrense society): Araneta, Zaldarriaga, Gonzaga, Ruíz de Luzuriaga, Gallaga, Gálatas, Echauz, Aldecoa, Arnáiz, Arrieta, Amiscaray, Baena, Larena, de Ugalde, Ballesteros, de Salutregui, Azcona, de Ysasi, de Elordi, Bilbao, Callejo, Sagarbarría, Goñi, Barrica, Gurrea, Zabaljauregui, de Gamboa, Llantada, Arteabarro, Gamboa, Uriarte, Erquiaga, Zamacona, Barrena, Sangróniz, Azarloza, Rotaeche, Muñoa, Bengoechea, Zabaleta, Zubiri, Idirin, de Uriondo, de Telleria, Zabala, Arteta, Larrabeiti, Vidaurrazaga, Gurrucharri, Aburto, Sarasola, Ormarementería, Imaz, Flamarique, de Sagastasola, Anchustegui, Echano-Jauregui, Inchausti, Inunciaga, Mendiola, Escalante, Menchaca, Urquijo, Cincunigui (Zincunigui).

In the Eastern and Central Visayas, many Basque immigrants became involved in the abaca trade and shipping industries. The epicenter of this society would eventually shift from Samar and Leyte to Cebu, where most are still found among the region’s business leaders: Yrastorza, Aboitiz, Moraza, Mendieta, Mendezona, Garamendi, Ugarte, Uriarte, Arizaleta, Muertegui, Gorordo, Larrazábal, Herranz, Gárriz, Urrutia, Losada, Ayesa, Antúnez, Guibelondo, Garavilla, Aberasturi, Pando, Ibarlucea, Larrañaga.

In Mindanao, one also finds several well-known Basque families: Ozámiz, Iruasegui, Urquiaga, Achondoa.

And then there are the Asturian families in the Philippines: Roces, Balmori, de la Riva.

Lastly, some families that are descended from immigrants from Spain might actually trace their ancestry to regions in France:
Cabarrús, Cuisia, Duterte, de Oglou.

Spanish mestizo families of French descent that came by way of Spain (e.g., Prieto — Mauro St. was named in honor of Don Mauro Prieto y Gorricho, by the way). It seems that the families you mentioned above are descended from immigrants from France (or French colonies)… Henry Lhuillier (Henri L’Huillier) was an immigrant from France who had also lived in Vietnam, which is where his son Michel was born. The Gaston family of Negros is descended from French agronomist Yves Leopold Germain Gaston, who was brought over to the Philippines by Don Domingo Roxas from Mauritius (at the time, Mauritius was producing 10x the amount of sugar produced in the entire Philippine Islands!). Kahn family patriarch Leopoldo Kahn was actually an immigrant from France (an Alsatian). The old, prominent Perrenoud and Elzingre (who left France for Switzerland before coming to the Philippines and are relatives of the famous French Dumas family) clans are other well-known families in the Philippines of French ancestry. The Spanish-French Arcellier family members are cousins of the Roxas family. I know nothing about the Maihler family…

BTW, the old Pellicer family is originally of Catalán descent — not French.

The Lammoglia family was Italian. It is likely that the old Spanish mestizo Aldanese (one of the genuine, older Spanish mestizo families of Cebu), Guidotti (not to be confused with the Guidote Spanish mestizo family), and Piccio families trace their ancestry to Italy. Of course, the famous Badolato family (cousins of the old Gonzáles-Azaola-de Oglou-Pardo de Tavera-Cacho-Castillejo-Araneta-Cojuangco, de las Cagigas-Jugo, Rodríguez, Sanz, etc. clans) immigrated to Spain from Calabria, Italy before setting sail for the Philippines during the colonial period. Although it is certainly possible, the very old Borromeo clan of the Visayas is unlikely Italian. Actually, it’s somewhat of a mystery as to whether they were originally from Spain (though they would later marry into many prominent Spanish mestizo clans from the Visayas and Manila). Of course, De la Rama Steamship Co. President and General Manager Enrico Pirovano was Italian (he was also murdered by the Kempetei at Ft. Santiago during the Second World War for his involvement in the Philippine resistance).

Actually, several of the German mestizo families. Among the old German mestizo families one finds the Roensch (proprietors of A. Roensch y Cía, whose famous Spanish-German member Adolfo Roensch was a long-time A. Soriano & Co. executive), Richter (proprietors of A. Richter y Cía, which was later taken over along with A. Roensch y Cía by Brías Roxas y Cía), Faustmann, Oppen, Koch, von Kauffmann (Fritz von Kauffmann was a Managing Partner of Elizalde and Company — they would even intermarry), Loewinsohn-Mohr, Ganz, Kummer, Karuth, Mossesgeld, etc. clans. Actually, the early Zóbels were the business partners of Gustav Grupe and Julius Nohr in the Philippines. Actually, they were part of a significant group of German immgrant who came to the Philippines in the 19th century to enter the pharmacy business: http://www.karl-prokop.de/Botica_Boie/botica_boie.html. Incidentally, the Zóbels had relatives in both Germany and Denmark. There were also a number of families descended from 19th century Danish merchants in Manila and Iloilo who married into the Spanish mestizo families there: Klar, the far-flung Kierulf clan (relatives of the de Carlès, Aldeguer, Preysler, etc. families), etc. Of course, Manila not only had an active German Club (located beside the Casino Español), but also an active Swiss Club. There were also a number of Swiss in Iloilo in the late 1800s: Frederick Luchsinger, Charles and Samuel Bischoff, Paul Wuthrich, and the Jeanjaquet brothers ran businesses there. The firms Kuenzle & Streiff, Inc. and A.C. Lutz & Co. (later Lutz & Zuellig and then F.E. Zuellig, Inc.) also had offices in Iloilo. The Ayala Foundation’s Filipinas Heritage Foundation published “Meine Lieben: Swiss Letters from the Philippines” not too long ago. Of course, the famous Alhambra brand cigars were from a Swiss (not Spanish!) cigar company founded in Manila in 1898. Recent Swiss and German expats seem to still be involved in the Philippine Cigar retail business…

As for the Manila/San Juan families, the Aenlle clan is also one of the old Catalán families in Manila.

old Basque mestizo de Marcaida clan of Manila (the descendents of merchant Don Ángel de Marcaida).

Ibarra is too common a name in the Philippines. As for the Liquete clan, the father of former family patriarch Don Leoncio González Liquete (the famous journalist, historian, and Filipinologist) was definitely a Spaniard.

Arrastia clan is very much alive (well, in Spain and Australia, in particular). Actually, there are quite a few in Pampanga still who trace their lineage to the sons of Valentín Arrastia y Roncal —

http://remembranceofthingsawry.wordpress.com/2008/02/22/the-elegance-of-spanish-manila/

One of the grand daughter of my GGG Grandparents married to one of the Badolato family member in the Philippines, Italian Mestizo family who has strong European background


The Genealogy of Badolato family clan in the Philippines
http://jamiesonlapp.familytreeguide.com/descend.php?personID=IND00054&tree=2

So he is also related to the Sanz family of Visayas
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6098/6252991604_5b3c1ac1d4_z.jpg
some retain European features because they got more European genes, well the mixing in the Philippines has malay, negrito, sangley and they have more high percentage when it comes to population but a lot of them they also have descended that doesn't look like what you wanted to see. Because some of these European Mestizo descended married to the other Filipino population and the features will diluted if not maintain.

Like one of the Gonzalez family member of Bulacan
http://apalitdoblezetastories.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/joaquin-jorge-gonzalez_00092.jpg
^you won't probably see their European features anymore or some of these descendant member of the Gonzalez because it was already diluted.

[RMuller]

Also, do you know what you get when you mix an East Asian person with a European one?

This.

http://hapavoice.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hapa24.jpg

~Daniel Sitterle from Hapavoices
http://hapavoice.com/2010/08/12/korean-french/

He's French-Korean. And he looks like an ordinary Filipino. :rolleyes:

http://www.surrogatefinder.com/Photo/couples_1de56f95b53db79ee436a83120fee29e.jpg
Just some random Filipino dude I randomly Googled.

Half East Asian-white mixes don't look Filipino at all. Filipinos have to much Aeta-negrito.

Rex Walters half Japanese/white
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgauuguuQhbkdP1yJW8l3oyEFnsc69l XmGBWTIkjv6Igv8uVsmGw

Maria Ozawa half Japanese/French Canadian
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGDQk04_MImTq_PFZm07c2DY97WayP_ 6DGjlhxFi-66KP9WSma

[RMuller]

Quite honestly, I don't see too much European in the phenotypes of the Philippine people I've met over the years unless they are say from half Irish American half Filipino house background like one guy I know. But he's of course an American descended from such a mix. Regardless, most I've met directly from the Philippines don't look like him.

European blood among Filipinos is rare. Only 1% of the Filipino population has a tiny tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
The rest are a mix of Austronesean,Austroloid,Papuan,Negrito and Aeta .

[Vesuvian Sky]

Autosomal breakdowns for Filipino groups based on language from Dinekes analysis:



Ilocano
African: 0
W. Eurasian: 0.2
Australoid: 34.5
SE Asian: 3.8
E. Asian: 61.5

Visaya
African: 0.2
W. Eurasian: 2.6
Australoid: 33.8
SE Asian: 8.2
E. Asian: 55.3

Tagalog
African: 0.1
W. Eurasian: 0.9
Australoid: 29.9
SE Asian: 7.4
E. Asian: 61.7

Very little W. Eurasian influence which is a very broadly defined category mind you.

It peaks at 11.4 among Ayta. Though for most ethnicity its well below that. Source:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGhELVJqbUhjVk5YZy01THV5eU1YV 2c&authkey=CN7mhq0E&hl=en&authkey=CN7mhq0E#gid=0

[simple]

Autosomal breakdowns for Filipino groups based on language from Dinekes analysis:



Ilocano
African: 0
W. Eurasian: 0.2
Australoid: 34.5
SE Asian: 3.8
E. Asian: 61.5

Visaya
African: 0.2
W. Eurasian: 2.6
Australoid: 33.8
SE Asian: 8.2
E. Asian: 55.3

Tagalog
African: 0.1
W. Eurasian: 0.9
Australoid: 29.9
SE Asian: 7.4
E. Asian: 61.7

Very little W. Eurasian influence which is a very broadly defined category mind you.

It peaks at 11.4 among Ayta. Though for most ethnicity its well below that. Source:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGhELVJqbUhjVk5YZy01THV5eU1YV 2c&authkey=CN7mhq0E&hl=en&authkey=CN7mhq0E#gid=0

How many Filipinos they took for this study?

[simple]

oh sure. That's why these obviously mixed ancestry Filipinas all said "I'm 100% Filipino" (question 7). Because Filipinos dont know or care about their distant foreign ancestries. It's not like in the US where everyone says "I'm mixed with German, Indian, Chinese, African, Swedish, etc etc etc" even though they're just American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBD9JxK_JY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSYwC8UUtUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez-lnvLSIkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds790aaTFcU

Well Lalaine played as Hispanic in Lizzie McGuire TV series in Hollywood and a lot of people thought she was Hispanic I guess when she said that she has Spanish on her was to acknowledge her part ancestry but she quoted that she's proud being a Filipino and that she identify herself as Filipino but if you were being asked regarding ancestries is different. The only thing that irritates me is like how Jasmine Trias mentioned in American Idol that she was Filipino, Spanish, Chinese lol. if our parents are both Filipinos even if they had mixed ancestries no need to mentioned all of that if both came from Philippines because she can just say it Filipino..


Lalaine is best known as Miranda Sanchez in the Series Lizzie McGuire.

“People ask me, ‘Are you Spanish?’” said Lalaine, best known as Miranda Sanchez on “Lizzie McGuire.” “I say I have Spanish in me but I’m not just Spanish. I’m proud of my ethnicities and I will always be proud of being a Filipino.”

http://www.topfox.tv/pic/lalaine_vergara_paras/457227_lalaine_vergara_paras_scaled.jpg
^her Filipino native ethnic is Tagalog (Batangas) from maternal and Kapampangan
from paternal side.

[clete27]

European blood among Filipinos is rare. Only 1% of the Filipino population has a tiny tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
The rest are a mix of Austronesean,Austroloid,Papuan,Negrito and Aeta .

Source?? you have it mixed up. It's not 1% that has a tiny amount of European, it's the average Filipino has 1% European blood.

1% is more like the number of Filipinos who are at least half European

[Vesuvian Sky]

How many Filipinos they took for this study?

Over 100 with each ethnicity roughly having 20 subjects per sample size. If you go here, scroll down the spreadsheet to the Filipino results and look at the sample size per each ethnicity to get more details:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGhELVJqbUhjVk5YZy01THV5eU1YV 2c&authkey=CN7mhq0E&hl=en&authkey=CN7mhq0E#gid=0

[clete27]

Well Lalaine played as Hispanic in Lizzie McGuire TV series in Hollywood and a lot of people thought she was Hispanic
I guess when she said that she has Spanish on her was to acknowledge her part ancestry
but she quoted that she's proud being a Filipino and that she identify herself as Filipino but if you were being asked regarding ancestries is different. The only thing that irritates me is like how Jasmine Trias mentioned in American Idol that she was Filipino, Spanish, Chinese lol. if our parents are both Filipinos even if they had mixed ancestries no need to mentioned all of that if both came from Philippines..

Just like this girl. Both of her parents are full Filipino and it's obvious, but she says "I'm Filipino, Spanish, Chinese" She would get laughed at and slapped if she said that in the Philippines because she looks like a common person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYv5hc88Nuw
Girl you are 100% Filipino

[clete27]

Autosomal breakdowns for Filipino groups based on language from Dinekes analysis:



Ilocano
African: 0
W. Eurasian: 0.2
Australoid: 34.5
SE Asian: 3.8
E. Asian: 61.5

Visaya
African: 0.2
W. Eurasian: 2.6
Australoid: 33.8
SE Asian: 8.2
E. Asian: 55.3

Tagalog
African: 0.1
W. Eurasian: 0.9
Australoid: 29.9
SE Asian: 7.4
E. Asian: 61.7

Very little W. Eurasian influence which is a very broadly defined category mind you.

It peaks at 11.4 among Ayta. Though for most ethnicity its well below that. Source:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGhELVJqbUhjVk5YZy01THV5eU1YV 2c&authkey=CN7mhq0E&hl=en&authkey=CN7mhq0E#gid=0

These results don't really contradict what I found on 23andme. If you average the amount of European for the three groups it comes out to about 1.2% European blood for the average Filipino, which is exactly what I found when I averaged the amount of European mixture from 70 full Filipinos on 23andme. And about 3% of Filipinos are more than 33% European. So it's false to say "only 1% of Filipinos have a very very small amount of European blood" No, more like "most Filipinos have a small amount of European blood, and a small percent of Filipinos have a significant amount of European blood"

[RMuller]

Source?? you have it mixed up. It's not 1% that has a tiny amount of European, it's the average Filipino has 1% European blood.

1% is more like the number of Filipinos who are at least half European

You got it all wrong kid. It's obvious having European blood to you is important.

Their was no more than 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans in the Philipine islands in 350 years.
The filipino population at that time was 750,000-1,200,000. Do you honestly believe 6,000 Spaniard and Mexicans would have an effect on the Filipino gene pool to get average Filipino 1% European?:picard2:

The Filpino islands are spread out and their is more than 7,000 islands. Most Spaniards and Mexicans were concentrated around Manilla and Zamboanga.

So im correct in saying only 1% of the Filpino population has a tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
There was hardly any Spaniards or Mexicans in the Filipino islands ,thats why the Spanish language was only spoken by 5% of the population at its height .

[Dictator]

You got it all wrong kid. It's obvious having European blood to you is important.

Their was no more than 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans in the Philipine islands in 350 years.
The filipino population at that time was 750,000-1,200,000. Do you honestly believe 6,000 Spaniard and Mexicans would have an effect on the Filipino gene pool to get average Filipino 1% European?:picard2:

The Filpino islands are spread out and their is more than 7,000 islands. Most Spaniards and Mexicans were concentrated around Manilla and Zamboanga.

So im correct in saying only 1% of the Filpino population has a tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
There was hardly any Spaniards or Mexicans in the Filipino islands ,thats why the Spanish language was only spoken by 5% of the population at its height .

Yes and don't forget that they have default white skin like saludong.

[clete27]

You got it all wrong kid. It's obvious having European blood to you is important.

Their was no more than 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans in the Philipine islands in 350 years.
The filipino population at that time was 750,000-1,200,000. Do you honestly believe 6,000 Spaniard and Mexicans would have an effect on the Filipino gene pool to get average Filipino 1% European?:picard2:

The Filpino islands are spread out and their is more than 7,000 islands. Most Spaniards and Mexicans were concentrated around Manilla and Zamboanga.

So im correct in saying only 1% of the Filpino population has a tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
There was hardly any Spaniards or Mexicans in the Filipino islands ,thats why the Spanish language was only spoken by 5% of the population at its height .

You're all confused because you liked Vesuvian Sky's post, which confirms exactly what I said and found out from 23andme. The average Filipino is about 1% European. So please unlike his post if you dont agree. You can go on 23andme yourself and start adding Filipinos and you'll see it. I looked at almost 70 full Filipinos (meaning they listed that all 4 of their grandparents were born in the Philippines) and I looked at the standard estimate of European blood in all of them, then I averaged. It's about 1.1%, and this matches what Vesuvian Sky found. So are you confused?? You liked his post, but you dont agree with the content???

[clete27]

Yes and don't forget that they have default white skin like saludong.

white skin doesnt mean shit. Plenty of Filipinos have white ass skin, but that doesnt mean they're European mixed.
I mean shit, look how light her skin is, but she's just Filipina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8je0GeSSwk4

[clete27]

also, you can't really tell by looking at people. I mean, look at these two women. One has a small amount of European and the other has a significant amount, but the one who has a significant amount actually looks more like a regular Filipina.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/wun.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/juan.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/ahaedp.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/ahepad.jpg

[RMuller]

You're all confused because you liked Vesuvian Sky's post, which confirms exactly what I said and found out from 23andme. The average Filipino is about 1% European. So please unlike his post if you dont agree. You can go on 23andme yourself and start adding Filipinos and you'll see it. I looked at almost 70 full Filipinos (meaning they listed that all 4 of their grandparents were born in the Philippines) and I looked at the standard estimate of European blood in all of them, then I averaged. It's about 1.1%, and this matches what Vesuvian Sky found. So are you confused?? You liked his post, but you dont agree with the content???

You claim you don't care for Spanish ancestry. But you spread propaganda on all anthroforums that all Filipinos are part Spanish.:picard2: The truth and reality is only 1% of the Filipino population has Spanish ancestry.
I have meet 25 filipinos and all claimed to have Spanish grandparents:picard2::picard1:. What lies! lol.

We know how Filipinos lie and claim to be descendant of Spanish aristocratic families.:picard2:

[clete27]

You claim you don't care for Spanish ancestry. But you spread propaganda on all anthroforums that all Filipinos are part Spanish.:picard2: The truth and reality is only 1% of the Filipino population has Spanish ancestry.
I have meet 25 filipinos and all claimed to have Spanish grandparents:picard2::picard1:. What lies! lol.

We know how Filipinos lie and claim to be descendant of Spanish aristocratic families.:picard2:

Hey bitch, go unlike that post you liked because clearly you dont agree with the content. When you average the amount of European for Ilocanos, Tagalogs, and Visayans (the three largest ethnic groups in the Philippines, about 75% of the population), it comes out to 1.2%. So the average Filipino is about 1% European. That's a fact. That's what you agreed with, and now you wanna take it back?? And bitch, 1% is so small and insignificant that it equates to 1 great great great great grandparent. So it's literally not shit. Only 1% of the Filipino population is more than 50% European, so it's a very small minority who has a lot of European blood, most of the rest of the population has a small amount and that blood is likely through Spanish priests raping their ancestors, not from Spanish aristocracy.

[RMuller]

Hey bitch, go unlike that post you liked because clearly you dont agree with the content.

Haha why you getting mad?:rolleyes: The truth hurts huh?:thumb001:


When you average the amount of European for Ilocanos, Tagalogs, and Visayans (the three largest ethnic groups in the Philippines, about 75% of the population), it comes out to 1.2%. So the average Filipino is about 1% European. That's a fact.

Your a fraud. There is no way in hell that every filipino some how magically ended up having 1% spanish blood.
ONLY 1% of the Filipino population has Spanish blood and its very tiny tiny 'minuscule".:)



That's what you agreed with, and now you wanna take it back?? And bitch, 1% is so small and insignificant that it equates to 1 great great great great grandparent. So it's literally not shit. Only 1% of the Filipino population is more than 50% European, so it's a very small minority who has a lot of European blood, most of the rest of the population has a small amount and that blood is likely through Spanish priests raping their ancestors, not from Spanish aristocracy.

Stop lying kid. You are a eurocentrist propoganda machine. enough is enough.
Their was only 6,000 Spanisrds and Mexicans and at the time the Filipino population was 750,000-1.2 million. The Philipine islands has 7,000 islands.
Spanish blood was magically spread thruout the 7,000 islands by shaking each others hands?:rolleyes:

And no way Filipinos have a great grandparent that was Spaniard because not even 95% of Mexico's population has a great grandparents that was Spaniard and Mexicans are on average 50% Spanish. So stop lying kid. enough is enough.
Take pride in your aeta,negrito genes.

Typical filipinos and they have a great grandparent that was Spaniard. haha!!! lmaooo
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV


ADIOS SELF HATER!!!

[Vesuvian Sky]

OK this is getting a little off topic now. So I'll ask this question based on something I noticed:

Is it some some Filipino custom among Filipino males to put their hands on another man's knee in a sauna while conversing and then rubbing their thumb gently over the knee cap?

I mean it may mean nothing for all I know but when its among people who have just introduced themselves to one another welll......

[clete27]

Haha why you getting mad?:rolleyes: The truth hurts huh?:thumb001:



Your a fraud. There is no way in hell that every filipino some how magically ended up having 1% spanish blood.
ONLY 1% of the Filipino population has Spanish blood and its very tiny tiny 'minuscule".:)




Stop lying kid. You are a eurocentrist propoganda machine. enough is enough.
Their was only 6,000 Spanisrds and Mexicans and at the time the Filipino population was 750,000-1.2 million. The Philipine islands has 7,000 islands.
Spanish blood was magically spread thruout the 7,000 islands by shaking each others hands?:rolleyes:

And no way Filipinos have a great grandparent that was Spaniard because not even 95% of Mexico's population has a great grandparents that was Spaniard and Mexicans are on average 50% Spanish. So stop lying kid. enough is enough.
Take pride in your aeta,negrito genes.

Typical filipinos and they have a great grandparent that was Spaniard. haha!!! lmaooo
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV


ADIOS SELF HATER!!!

Why are you talking about Spanish blood?? I never said that. I'm talking about European blood. And why the fuck are you arguing with me? You should probably go argue with the guy who posted that data, because it says the exact same thing I've been saying. Go argue with him little bitch. Oh, and why the hell would you expect anyone with 1% European blood to show on their facial features?? So your pic is pointless, because since the average Filipino is only 1% European, you will see NO EUROPEAN FEATURES AT ALL on their faces. 1% rape blood is insignificant. These Filipinas have about that amount and you dont see Euro features on their faces because priestly rape blood from the 1800s is insignificant:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/rrsty.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/rrr.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/mrssss.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/mrss.jpg
And like I said, go argue with the guy who posted the data, the guy whose post you liked. You're confused because you liked it and now you're arguing the opposite of what you liked

[Dictator]

Is it some some Filipino custom among Filipino males to put their hands on another man's knee in a sauna while conversing and then rubbing their thumb gently over the knee cap?


OMG
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[Vesuvian Sky]

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[clete27]

Typical filipinos and they have a great grandparent that was Spaniard. haha!!! lmaooo
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV


ADIOS SELF HATER!!!

I said GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT grandparent you illiterate bitch. If someone is 1% European than they have the equivalent of 1 full European GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT Grandparent. So some priest or wanderer raped one of their ancestors in the 1800s. Seriously if you cant read DONT FUCKIN TALK TO ME.

[Dictator]

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This question is so fucking hilarious. I love the Apricity lol.

[clete27]

Autosomal breakdowns for Filipino groups based on language from Dinekes analysis:



Ilocano
African: 0
W. Eurasian: 0.2
Australoid: 34.5
SE Asian: 3.8
E. Asian: 61.5

Visaya
African: 0.2
W. Eurasian: 2.6
Australoid: 33.8
SE Asian: 8.2
E. Asian: 55.3

Tagalog
African: 0.1
W. Eurasian: 0.9
Australoid: 29.9
SE Asian: 7.4
E. Asian: 61.7

Very little W. Eurasian influence which is a very broadly defined category mind you.

It peaks at 11.4 among Ayta. Though for most ethnicity its well below that. Source:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGhELVJqbUhjVk5YZy01THV5eU1YV 2c&authkey=CN7mhq0E&hl=en&authkey=CN7mhq0E#gid=0

I'll speak for RMuller since he's too much of a bitch to argue with you. This data is wrong, even thought I thumbs uped this post. It's completely wrong.

[Vesuvian Sky]

This question is so fucking hilarious. I love the Apricity lol.

I swear, Filipino people are sooooo horny. Like all the time. And there just ain't no restraint or stoppin' even in the context of a public sauna. Reminds me of a song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSH7PZduYw&list=RDbmSH7PZduYw#t=19

[Vesuvian Sky]

This data is wrong....

oh ok might want to mention this to Dienekes then.


even thought I thumbs uped this post.

I don't believe you did....


It's completely wrong.

I think Dienekes is having a good cry right now.:cry

[clete27]

oh ok might want to mention this to Dienekes then.



I don't believe you did....



I think Dienekes is having a good cry right now.:cry

It's wrong because there's no way in hell that the average Filipino is 1.2% West Eurasian.

[Vesuvian Sky]

It's wrong because there's no way in hell that the average Filipino is 1.2% West Eurasian.

Less or more W. Eurasian? What specific number should there be for each ethnicity then? And why?

Also which component would correspond with the extreme horniness?

[RMuller]

Why are you talking about Spanish blood?? I never said that. I'm talking about European blood. And why the fuck are you arguing with me? You should probably go argue with the guy who posted that data, because it says the exact same thing I've been saying. Go argue with him little bitch. Oh, and why the hell would you expect anyone with 1% European blood to show on their facial features?? So your pic is pointless, because since the average Filipino is only 1% European, you will see NO EUROPEAN FEATURES AT ALL on their faces. 1% rape blood is insignificant. These Filipinas have about that amount and you dont see Euro features on their faces because priestly rape blood from the 1800s is insignificant:

You still spreading propaganda? Only 1% of the Filipino population has a drop of Spanish blood. You know it too.
The only way for 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans to spread their genes to the 750,000 filipinas was to have 12,500 filipinas per brothel. Don't think that happen. :rolleyes:

[RMuller]

It's wrong because there's no way in hell that the average Filipino is 1.2% West Eurasian.

Thats true. Not even 5% of the filipino population spoke Espanol. The reason was most Filipinos never got to met a Spaniard or Mexican.

Filipino fantasy of being on average 1% white.lmaoooo

[clete27]

You still spreading propaganda? Only 1% of the Filipino population has a drop of Spanish blood. You know it too.
The only way for 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans to spread their genes to the 750,000 filipinas was to have 12,500 filipinas per brothel. Don't think that happen. :rolleyes:

Nobody cares about Spanish blood. Im talkin about European blood. The average Filipino has the equivalent of 1 full European great great great great grandparent, so it's an insignificant amount. Do you realize that we have 64 great great great great grandparents?

[clete27]

Less or more W. Eurasian? What specific number should there be for each ethnicity then? And why?

Also which component would correspond with the extreme horniness?

It's too much. The average amount should be 0% for Tagalogs, Ilocanos, and Visayans

[RMuller]

Nobody cares about Spanish blood. Im talkin about European blood. The average Filipino has the equivalent of 1 full European great great great great grandparent, so it's an insignificant amount. Do you realize that we have 64 great great great great grandparents?

In your eurocentric fantasy world. The truth is 99% of filpino population has no European blood.
That explains why only 5% of the Filipino population spoke espanol at it's height. Obvious obvious.

[clete27]

In your eurocentric fantasy world. The truth is 99% of filpino population has no European blood.
That explains why only 5% of the Filipino population spoke espanol at it's height. Obvious obvious.

you have no data to back it up. Go create a 23andme account and see for yourself. 23andme is extremely conservative about assinging ancestry. Also, most of the Filipinos on there, even if they're 2% European have found 5th cousins from Latin America. To be a 5th cousin, you must share a set of great great great great grandparents

[Vesuvian Sky]

Well if I'd have to take a guess, I'd say its either the Australoid or SE Asian component that leads to the extreme horniness.

[Smaug]

Ask Uhtred, Curupira or Petry. They will say the same thing.

"Brazilian" is not an ethnicity.

[Dictator]

"Brazilian" is not an ethnicity.
And basque people working for Portugal aren't Portuguese, right?

[Smaug]

And basque people working for Portugal aren't Portuguese, right?

"Brazilian" is just a naionality. You are an Azorean, I am British-Italan, Giselle Büdchen is German, Rubens Barrichello is Italian, Hugo Hoyama is Japanese, Pelé is Black, Dan Stulbach is Ashkenazi, Neymar is Pardo... Yet, we are all "Brazilians".

[Selurong]

European blood among Filipinos is rare. Only 1% of the Filipino population has a tiny tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
The rest are a mix of Austronesean,Austroloid,Papuan,Negrito and Aeta .

RMuller you are the most deceitful piece of crap I have ever ecountered.. You took the statistic that there were only 6000 South Americans and 2000 Spaniards from the census that was quoted in Blackwood magaziine that stated that 1/3rd of the population had varying degrees and types of descent from Hispanic people. You claim that there were only 6000 Spaniards and then conviently ignore their descendants that make up 1/3rd the population.

We'll bub, the 6000 South Americans and 2000 Spaniards living in the Philippines, you claim to represent the sole Spaniards that ever stepped foot here, they were just the imported military personel for the year 1796-1797.

What about the thousands of more soldiers stationed before that year and the year after?

And furtheremore, their descendants are just counted as Filipino even though they Spanish or Latin-American origins.

Furthermore, according to Fedor Jagor 500,000 of the total 1,500,000 of the population has Spanish ancestry.

AND Furthermore, do you even know the situaion in the Philippines? There was perpetual war; war with muslims, war with the sinists or war with tantrists. They have no choice but to import soldiers every year. So just because you saw in my source that they imported 2000 Spaniards and 6000 South Americans for the year 1796-1797, you go and pretend that there were only 6000 Spaniards in the entire history of Spanish Philippines.

This is not only dishonest but downright stupid.

Alo, you can take your pathetic basura ass out of my sight. Mexico reblled against Spain in the 1800s while we only became indepent of her in the cusp of the 1900s. We have been Spanish longer than you, you fucking refugee, you throw away mass from the rabble of the continent.

Here is a traidor; yap yap yapping over how much more Spanish he is when we have been Spanish far longer than you were.


And contrary to what others claim that the Filipinos are descended from the rape by a priest. Most Filipinos with Euro descent trace their line from an officer, mariner or soldier.

Honorable occupations which require that one gives one's life for your country. Wherease were do most Mexicans trace descent from? The refugee traitor who back stabbed their own homeland and then fled to Latin America.


You are an impulsive liar RMuller and your word is a good as basura. The little hidalgo and soldado blood we have, even though it is subject to dilution is worth a shit-ton more than your traidor, insrrecto and rebelde blood culled from the trash of Europe. The REFUGEE, REBELDE, INGRATO and TRAIDOR are your fathers and you seem to be proud of your huge percentage of descent from the basura of Europe. Good luck. We don't need it.

P.S: I know that my ancestors wer Hidalgos (knights) [In my paternal side] because we still hold the deeds of the land for the town of Nueva Ecija, given to us by royal decree from the Spanish King in token appreciation for our efforts in the Castille War against the Sultanate of Brunei. You?? What do you have? Your forefathers probably came to Mexico fleeing the police in Spain that's why they had to change nationality.

And you have the gall to tell me, to tell us, who have been Spanish far longer than you, have fought in more wars involving Spain, more frequently than you and have bee more loyal to Spain by 100 more years than you, maintained an island of Catholicism in a sea of infidels. That... You are more Hispanic than us.

Give me a break, traidor.

[simple]

You got it all wrong kid. It's obvious having European blood to you is important.

Their was no more than 6,000 Spaniards and Mexicans in the Philipine islands in 350 years.
The filipino population at that time was 750,000-1,200,000. Do you honestly believe 6,000 Spaniard and Mexicans would have an effect on the Filipino gene pool to get average Filipino 1% European?:picard2:

The Filpino islands are spread out and their is more than 7,000 islands. Most Spaniards and Mexicans were concentrated around Manilla and Zamboanga.

So im correct in saying only 1% of the Filpino population has a tiny tiny drop of Spanish blood.
There was hardly any Spaniards or Mexicans in the Filipino islands ,thats why the Spanish language was only spoken by 5% of the population at its height .

The Spaniards or should I say their descendants did not just concentrated in Manila and in Zamboanga. Most of the port they do located, Ilocos Sur is one of the place of the port for example, and Cavite. These are the areas where the Galleon trading pass by and some of them they got land and properties too outside Manila or Zamboanga area like in Tarlac and Pampanga or in Cuyo Island of Palawan. They are also part of the Cabesa de barangay or the Principallia that usually rule to any Spanish colonial town.

Notice why Vigan in Ilocos is almost similar in Intramuros Calle Real. They encourage their Mestizo descendants to mix to the Sangley Mestizo descendants too to give birth to the Tornatras.

Juan Luna who is Ilocano married to Maria dela Paz Pardo de Tavera
Gabriela Silang married Diego Silang
Padre Burgos
Ferdinand Marcos who looks like a Sangley has Spanish ancestry (He is related to Montilla)
The Albano-Rodriguez-Montilla family of Ilocos Norte & Zambales http://www.flickriver.com/photos/apolakay/sets/72157625973318193/
Not all the Mestizo de Sangley are rich & the used to be rich ilustrados before are no longer rich some of their descendants live like the average Filipinos quality of living.

[Selurong]

The Spaniards or should I say their descendants did not just concentrated in Manila and in Zamboanga. Most of the port they do located, Ilocos Sur is one of the place of the port for example, and Cavite. These are the areas where the Galleon trading pass by and some of them they got land and properties too outside Manila or Zamboanga area like in Tarlac and Pampanga or in Cuyo Island of Palawan. They are also part of the Cabesa de barangay or the Principallia that usually rule to any Spanish colonial town.

Notice why Vigan in Ilocos is almost similar in Intramuros Calle Real. They encourage their Mestizo descendants to mix to the Sangley Mestizo descendants too to give birth to the Tornatras.

Juan Luna who is Ilocano married to Maria dela Paz Pardo de Tavera
Gabriela Silang married Diego Silang
Padre Burgos
Ferdinand Marcos who looks like a Sangley has Spanish ancestry

He is an impulsive liar. Just disregard him. It's basically illogical to even conceive that the Spaniards or Catholic Europeans in general, who have been here since the 1500s up to today (That's already half a millenium) would only leave a mark affecting 1% of the population. They even give Australia which was only settled bye Europeans in the 1800s the distinction of being "Western" but they won't consider the oldest and most loyal province in the Spanish Empire, The Philippines, Hispanic.

That's how warped their logic is. Furthermore, they think that just because they are decended from cowards who escaped to America, they think they are better than your ancestor for example, who fought for France in the wars against Dai Vietnam or my ancestor who fought in the war against the Brunei Sultanate...

Just because they have more European blood, per quantity, while totally ignoring our's which have a higher quality.

His thinking is warped.

He is prejudiced into thinking that all Filipinos are pure Negrito and goes cites a census which said that only 6000 South Americans and 2000 Spaniards who were military personel, were deployed in just one year. And then he pretends that this are all the Europeans that ever came to the country. While conveniently ignoring the 500,000 people out of the 1,500,000 total population who have varying degrees of Latin descent.

[LOCOMANDANTE]

The most things Filipinos talk about seem really foreign to me. :naughty: Papanga hahaha.

[Dictator]

And you have the gall to tell me, to tell us, who have been Spanish far longer than you, have fought in more wars involving Spain, more frequently than you and have bee more loyal to Spain by 100 more years than you, maintained an island of Catholicism in a sea of infidels. That... You are more Hispanic than us.

Give me a break, traidor.

First, he is not a traitor. Not his ancestors. Mexico was a Colony. Colonies are created with the purpose of exploration, that means, people there are going to be explored and no one wants that.
Second, he is and will always be more Hispanic than you, what you even aren't. Deal with it, it's getting annoying.
Just because USA uses the term Hispanic in the wrong way, it doesn't mean you should too. I don't see the term Lusitanic in the census, never will. I am Lusitanic, a Mexican is Hispanic, a Filipino is neither.

[Lusos]

Just because he is Brazilian it doesn't mean that he is of Portuguese ancestry or that his surname is Portuguese. Vasco is a Spanish surname and your Portuguese ancestry most likely is basque.

No.
Velasco Is a Spanish Surname.

In the Form "Vasco" Is Portuguese Spanish and Italian.

[Dictator]

No.
Velasco Is a Spanish Surname.

In the Form "Vasco" Is Portuguese Spanish and Italian.
The chances of being Portuguese ancestry are insanely small.

[RMuller]

RMuller you are the most deceitful piece of crap I have ever ecountered.. You took the statistic that there were only 6000 South Americans and 2000 Spaniards from the census that was quoted in Blackwood magaziine

Im telling the truth. Very few Spaniards ever made it to the Philipines.



We'll bub, the 6000 South Americans and 2000 Spaniards living in the Philippines, you claim to represent the sole Spaniards that ever stepped foot here, they were just the imported military personel for the year 1796-1797.

Less than 100 Spaniards or Mexicans arrived in the Philipines per year.


What about the thousands of more soldiers stationed before that year and the year after?

you mean hundreds.



Furthermore, according to Fedor Jagor 500,000 of the total 1,500,000 of the population has Spanish ancestry.

Eurocentric lies by Fedir Jagor. A couple thousand Spaniards and Mexicans could not have a genetic impact on millions of Filipines.Its pure fantasy .




Alo, you can take your pathetic basura ass out of my sight. Mexico reblled against Spain in the 1800s while we only became indepent of her in the cusp of the 1900s. We have been Spanish longer than you, you fucking refugee, you throw away mass from the rabble of the continent.
Here is a traidor; yap yap yapping over how much more Spanish he is when we have been Spanish far longer than you were.



Your a joke, Filipinos are South East Asians. Comedy Filipinos thinking they are Spaniards when they look like Vietnamese dipped in chocolate.




And contrary to what others claim that the Filipinos are descended from the rape by a priest. Most Filipinos with Euro descent trace their line from an officer, mariner or soldier.

Honorable occupations which require that one gives one's life for your country. Wherease were do most Mexicans trace descent from? The refugee traitor who back stabbed their own homeland and then fled to Latin America.

You talk alot of mierda.Filipinos are descendants of Aetas,negritos ,malays,those are your ancestors.



You are an impulsive liar RMuller and your word is a good as basura. The little hidalgo and soldado blood we have, even though it is subject to dilution is worth a shit-ton more than your traidor, insrrecto and rebelde blood culled from the trash of Europe. The REFUGEE, REBELDE, INGRATO and TRAIDOR are your fathers and you seem to be proud of your huge percentage of descent from the basura of Europe. Good luck. We don't need it.

Mexico recieved the most important Spanish immigration many were of nobility,the few Spaniards that went to the Filipinos were criminals,bandits etc the worse of the worse haha mix it with aeta,negritos and you get basura .


P.S: I know that my ancestors wer Hidalgos (knights) [In my paternal side] because we still hold the deeds of the land for the town of Nueva Ecija, given to us by royal decree from the Spanish King in token appreciation for our efforts in the Castille War against the Sultanate of Brunei. You?? What do you have?

Haha. Kid DON'T you ever get tired of inventing nobilities on your family tree? You have no Spanish ancestors. I hear it all the time filipinos claiming of having spanish royal blood. :picard1: you are comedy. :)



And you have the gall to tell me, to tell us, who have been Spanish far longer than you, have fought in more wars involving Spain, more frequently than you and have bee more loyal to Spain by 100 more years than you, maintained an island of Catholicism in a sea of infidels. That... You are more Hispanic than us.

Give me a break, traidor.

You are not spaniard nor hispanic . You are just an Indonesian christian aka "filipino". :rolleyes:
You are confused and have identity issues. You are just a indonesian malay nothing else. You are southeast asian not hispanic even less spaniard lmaoo. ;)
Nobody will consider you hispanic . You have more in common with Indonesians that with Latino America or Spaniards. :cool:;)

[RMuller]

No.
Velasco Is a Spanish Surname.

In the Form "Vasco" Is Portuguese Spanish and Italian.

Filipinos were baptised with Spanish or Basque surnames. only 1% of the filipino pop has tiny tiny Iberian blood.

[simple]

First, he is not a traitor. Not his ancestors. Mexico was a Colony. Colonies are created with the purpose of exploration, that means, people there are going to be explored and no one wants that.
Second, he is and will always be more Hispanic than you, what you even aren't. Deal with it, it's getting annoying.
Just because USA uses the term Hispanic in the wrong way, it doesn't mean you should too. I don't see the term Lusitanic in the census, never will. I am Lusitanic, a Mexican is Hispanic, a Filipino is neither.

For me, I don't considered ourselves as Hispanic but I cannot also deny that some of our cultures are Hispanic (Spain Origin), we also have our native culture which is not Hispanic and we have indigenous people although the country was named after the King of Spain. I'm glad that most of our native languages retain and we have our own unique culture although we can't deny that it's still has Hispanic origin to it. It's somehow balance, different from any part of a country.

Spain contributed the Latin Letters and Baybayin writing is still available, There is bad and good side that they left behind.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/DoctrinaChristianaEspanolaYTagala8-9.jpg

[simple]

Filipinos were baptised with Spanish or Basque surnames. only 1% of the filipino pop has tiny tiny Iberian blood.

Aren't you proud of your native bloodline do you still speak your native language? Not the Spanish language. the native ethnic language of Mexico like Nahuatl or Aztec etc? How many native languages still being used there?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eiv-pnRVr4
It seems the natives are the minorities?

[Selurong]

Im telling the truth. Very few Spaniards ever made it to the Philipines.
You are not even Filipino who set you up as an expert over us? Furthermore, have you even read simple's litany of families? She basically said a thousand family names complete with genealogical branching and even that is just a small minority since most of the immigrants have not documented their geneology...

And that still wouldn't be enough for you.





Less than 100 Spaniards or Mexicans arrived in the Philipines per year.
That is a blatant lie. Do you know how many fortresses are there in the Philippines? Hundreds, and a hundred Spaniards can barely man one fort! And in order to maintain the network of military fortifications across the archipelago especially at the height of the wars to suppress the Chinese revolts or the Moro Insurrection you need a standing military of at least 5,000 (by the very least) officered pure Spaniards (disregarding the Latin-American mercenaries and Filipino native soldiers) per year. 100 Spaniards per year is not only impossible but the facts speak against it. In fact, during the Campaigns of 1886–87 at Jolo, alone, there were 1500 Spaniards serving as soldiers and officers to take and Christianize the area. If there is only 100 Spaniards arriving, per year what are the 1500 Spaniards doing? Waging war against the Muslims? Your statement is false and biased and completely against logic.







Eurocentric lies by Fedir Jagor. A couple thousand Spaniards and Mexicans could not have a genetic impact on millions of Filipines.Its pure fantasy .

No. You are the liar. Fedor Jagor was a German who was spy against Spain, and they wanted to take-over the Philippines.He reported his findings to his handlers and the information was published in Blackwell magazine. What motive is there for an enemy national to lie about his findings over a territory they want to invade?

Also, the thousands of pure Spaniards and Mexicans only reflected the soldiers who were recently deployed during that specific time period. What about the naturalized settlers before-hand and the children of those settlers? Just because thousands of Spaniards and South Americans were newly deployed in the Philippines during the year 1786-87. It doesn't mean that there were zero deployed before and after that point...






Your a joke, Filipinos are South East Asians. Comedy Filipinos thinking they are Spaniards when they look like Vietnamese dipped in chocolate.

No, you are a joke.






You talk alot of mierda.Filipinos are descendants of Aetas,negritos ,malays,those are your ancestors.

Hell yeah, we are proud of our aboriginal peoples especially the Ati and the Negritos. A percentage of whom have natural brown or blonde hair they evolved independently of Europeans.

http://hannover.park.org/Philippines/pinatubo/pinat17.jpg






Mexico recieved the most important Spanish immigration many were of nobility,the few Spaniards that went to the Filipinos were criminals,bandits etc the worse of the worse haha mix it with aeta,negritos and you get basura .

What a retard. Mexico declared independence from Spain in September 16, 1810 while we declared independence from Spain around June 12, 1898. That is roughly almost a century of distance. A century is made up of 4 generation, being 4 collections of 25-years each. Thus, we have had 4 more generations of Spanish citizens who are loyal to the crown than you are. In fact, you have 4 more generations of refugees and traitors to the Spanish empire who fled from Spain's Laws and took up a new nationality (Rebel Mexican shit-nationality), than we have.





Haha. Kid DON'T you ever get tired of inventing nobilities on your family tree? You have no Spanish ancestors. I hear it all the time filipinos claiming of having spanish royal blood. :picard1: you are comedy. :)






You are not spaniard nor hispanic . You are just an Indonesian christian aka "filipino". :rolleyes:
You are confused and have identity issues. You are just a indonesian malay nothing else. You are southeast asian not hispanic even less spaniard lmaoo. ;)
Nobody will consider you hispanic . You have more in common with Indonesians that with Latino America or Spaniards. :cool:;)

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO I AM YOU SILLY MAN? you should be honored that you are even talking to me in this forum. I am descended from Iberians plain and simple. I am part Mexican in my dad's side and part Portuguese-Basque in my mum's side. But I am sure as hell descended from a Hidalgo clan that has been in politics for generations. My geneology is obvious and even my parents prove this.

Here let me show you, you illogical individual.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103519_zpsri2l3isp.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103519_zpsri2l3isp.jpg.html)

See that Mestiza lady besides President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo?
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103546_zpsnqhru1qa.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103546_zpsnqhru1qa.jpg.html)

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyQ2ewILyxn8S4bAPmJwrbiDs6r2prm YJKwfYJraB78uO5VFKV

That's my mum. She's a national ambassador to the United Nations :mad:

To prove that I'm not lying; search up her name Ma. Rita Bascos Sarabia in Google search..

And you would find her name emblazoned in several Newspapers.

http://www.malaya.com.ph/business-news/news/third-judge-assigned-massacre-trial
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/manila/local-news/2011/07/20/court-rules-favor-ex-senator-over-property-168010
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php/en/sports-news/18770-bartolomes-sue

My dad is even worse, my Dad is stock holder of the clan company and we even have our own Hotel named after us.

So please, don't you dare fucking dictate to me what my status in life is or what my exact amount of racial admixture is because I meet up with more elite people with diverse ancestries, in a single week (who I am also related to)[And am also related to alot of other individuals, internationally) than you can in your whole life-time.

Come back and talk to me once you are friends with your president and her children or even get VIP passes in concerts purely for your ancestry.

Or else, just stay on your level and don't pretend to know about a country you are not even native to and don't pretend to know what my exact ancestry is, you who claim descend from traidors to España.

[Selurong]

The chances of being Portuguese ancestry are insanely small.

No. I am part Portuguese whether you like it or not.


Just look up at my post above, you commoner.

Just joking...

-self edited becuse this statement is mean-

Lol have fun

[Selurong]

Come here.
Hey man I finally put up that picture of my parents I told you about, she really looks mestiza right?


Come here.
See, I told you that my mum looks similar to that East Mediterranean woman, you shared days back.

[clete27]

Im telling the truth. Very few Spaniards ever made it to the Philipines.




Less than 100 Spaniards or Mexicans arrived in the Philipines per year.



you mean hundreds.




Eurocentric lies by Fedir Jagor. A couple thousand Spaniards and Mexicans could not have a genetic impact on millions of Filipines.Its pure fantasy .





Your a joke, Filipinos are South East Asians. Comedy Filipinos thinking they are Spaniards when they look like Vietnamese dipped in chocolate.





You talk alot of mierda.Filipinos are descendants of Aetas,negritos ,malays,those are your ancestors.




Mexico recieved the most important Spanish immigration many were of nobility,the few Spaniards that went to the Filipinos were criminals,bandits etc the worse of the worse haha mix it with aeta,negritos and you get basura .



Haha. Kid DON'T you ever get tired of inventing nobilities on your family tree? You have no Spanish ancestors. I hear it all the time filipinos claiming of having spanish royal blood. :picard1: you are comedy. :)




You are not spaniard nor hispanic . You are just an Indonesian christian aka "filipino". :rolleyes:
You are confused and have identity issues. You are just a indonesian malay nothing else. You are southeast asian not hispanic even less spaniard lmaoo. ;)
Nobody will consider you hispanic . You have more in common with Indonesians that with Latino America or Spaniards. :cool:;)

You keep saying 1% but where are your sources??? And Filipinos have some in common with Indonesians, some in common with Chinese, some in common with Latinos, some in common with Americans, some in common with Thais, some in common with Micronesians. It's a mixed up culture and you hate it. If you hate Filipinos so much, simply stop going to the Filipino threads. That will solve your problem. You obviously will believe whatever you want

[Selurong]

At RMuller and Dictator Carlos...

An ordinary East Asian and European admixture looks like this...

(without eye-contacts and surgery)

1) A Half-Korean and Half-French Dude from Hapa voices named Daniel Sitterle.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg.html)

2) And Maria Smyres; a Half German and Half Japanese.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWWJbkuVfTUD5y-RA0d6_yQWGMx0t99ogYRl-VKgO-JctbAykt9Q

They do not look any different than these 2 Filipino dudes in this crowd party.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg.html)

Or the rapper named Abra
http://a.wattpad.com/cover/13497310-256-k354187.jpg

This ordinary Filipino look is already the Eurasian look of them East Asian and European mixes of the Asians you exoticize so much. So you have absolutely no right to deny us of our real Hispanic ancestry when our phenotype is blatantly obvious especially when we are what you get when you Europeans race-mix with East Asians.

[Selurong]

You keep saying 1% but where are your sources??? And Filipinos have some in common with Indonesians, some in common with Chinese, some in common with Latinos, some in common with Americans, some in common with Thais, some in common with Micronesians. It's a mixed up culture and you hate it. If you hate Filipinos so much, simply stop going to the Filipino threads. That will solve your problem. You obviously will believe whatever you want

He actually even twisted the census I presented, that Hispanic genes are more prevalent...


By then ignoring the part where 1/3rd of the population have Hispanic genes and solely parrot on the part when there were only 2000 newly deployed Spanish soldiers in that given year.

And then, he pretended that in the entire history of Spanish-Philippines there were only 2000 soldiers deployed here EVER.

When the source clearly stated that the 2000 soldiers were newly deployed for that year only. It disregarded that thousands of more soldiers were deployed in previous years and the years after that.

[clete27]

the average Filipino is only 1% European, so you can forget about any of that showing up in the phenotype. Most Filipinos dont look European mixed at all. If you see big eyes or a long nose, it's usually because of Negrito admixture or Taiwanese Aborigine ancestry

[Selurong]

the average Filipino is only 1% European, so you can forget about any of that showing up in the phenotype. Most Filipinos dont look European mixed at all. If you see big eyes or a long nose, it's usually because of Negrito admixture or Taiwanese Aborigine ancestry

No I don't think so. I think it's more than that, we'll at least, according to the census.

23andme still hadn't tweaked their schematics to reflect the complexity of Philippine history.

Thinking that races are clear cut rather than blended as what we have here, since we are an even older melting pot than America and even Mexico since the Chinese, Malays and Indians criss-crossed here before even the first Iberian stepped foot in Latin-American soil.

And plus one cannot guess one's ancestry judging by phenotype alone.

Just look at this picture of my mom and the action star, Fernando Poe Jr.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103743_zps5nmauxjo.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103743_zps5nmauxjo.jpg.html)

One would have never guessed that my Mum is only 1/4rth Portuguese (Or in Dictator's eyes, just 1/4rth Basque) or that Fernando Poe Jr. was half American (Since his Filipino father, Ronald Allan K. Poe married the American woman Elizabeth Kelley and begot him)

If one didn't know the exact ancestries. One would say that my Mum would be Mestiza and Fernando Poe Jr. A mere Indio. Judging solely in skin color and phenotype. When in fact FPJ is more European than my Mum, who is Cholo while FPJ is Castizo.

[clete27]

No I don't think so. I think it's more than that, we'll at least, according to the census.
23andme still hadn't tweaked their schematics to reflect the complexity of Philippine history. Thinking that races are clear cut rather than blended aswhat we have here, since we are an even older melting pot than America.

And plus one cannot guess one's ancestry judging by phenotype alone.

Just look at this picture of my mom and the action star, Fernando Poe Jr.


One would have never guessed that my Mum is only 1/4rth Portuguese (Or in Dictator's eyes, just 1/4rth Basque) or that Fernando Poe Jr. was half American (Since his Filipino father, Ronald Allan K. Poe married the American woman Elizabeth Kelley and begot him)

If one didn't know the exact ancestries. One would say that my Mum would be Mestiza and Fernando Poe Jr. A mere Indio. Judging solely in skin color and phenotype. When in fact FPJ is more European than my Mum, who is Cholo while FPJ is Castizo.

Census doesnt say anything about average amount of admixture. The average Filipinos has 1% European admixture. So, many Filipinos have less than 1% or not admixture at all. And many Filipinos have more than 5%, a few have more than 25% (around 3% of the population). This girl is around 20% European, and yes, I'd say that her phenotype is found in about 3% of Filipinos. But you also have to factor in Chinese admixture, which changes the phenotype
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/novo1.jpg

This one is around 1/8th European, and her look is a lot more common, but she's still not completely typical
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/jammies.jpg

[Isleño]

Inb4 Selurong/Saludong

Filipinos are pretty liberal and open sexually from my experience, but they still approach relationships in a more traditional fashion.

Haha, in before Selurong. It's funny how certain threads you can tell who will be here soon. But I think we are all guilty of it at times :)

[Selurong]

Census doesnt say anything about average amount of admixture. The average Filipinos has 1% European admixture. So, many Filipinos have less than 1% or not admixture at all. And many Filipinos have more than 5%, a few have more than 25% (around 3% of the population). This girl is around 20% European, and yes, I'd say that her phenotype is found in about 3% of Filipinos. But you also have to factor in Chinese admixture, which changes the phenotype
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/novo1.jpg

This one is around 1/8th European, and her look is a lot more common, but she's still not completely typical
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/jammies.jpg

We'll then. It would have been as high as 25% European per person. But the centuries trodded on and after the Philippine-American war. Latins stopped migrating to the Philippines and the Americans never really picked off the slack and instead actually reversed the flow, expecting the Filipinos to migrate to the America rather than Americans migrating to the Philippines. Thus, the dilution.

The 1900s to now, 2014, is already 5-6 generations more or less.

And 5 generations is sufficient (once the flow is interrupted and not replaced) to completely, dilute the Latin in the Filipino genome. I'm lucky that both my family keeps records and shares to me stories of my ancestors that's why I know about their exploits. But most Filipinos aren't as lucky and they can barely track more than 3 generations into their genealogy.

[Isleño]

Yes, your mom looks mestiza (Filipino mestiza).

[Selurong]

Haha, in before Selurong. It's funny how certain threads you can tell who will be here soon. But I think we are all guilty of it at times :)

I actually would of haven't have posted here without Zhaoyun's summons. He's a cool dude, so I trust the words and motives of a cool dude.

[Selurong]

Yes, your mom looks mestiza (Filipino mestiza).

Thank you for the classification. I would have posted the pics sooner if I weren't so busy with my other stuff before. I beg pardon for the delay and at the same time express gratitude for the confirmation.

[Isleño]

I actually would of haven't have posted here without Zhaoyun's summons. He's a cool dude, so I trust the words and motives of a cool dude.Zhao is cool, he's just being playful. But we are all guilty of it. If there is a thread about Canary Islanders, I'm almost sure to post, just like he would on a Chinese related thread. But it's always fun to have fun on the forum :)

[Selurong]

Zhao is cool, he's just being playful. But we are all guilty of it. If there is a thread about Canary Islanders, I'm almost sure to post, just like he would on a Chinese related thread. But it's always fun to have fun on the forum :)

We all have a niche in here. :) How was your 4rth of July?

[Isleño]

Thank you for the classification. I would have posted the pics sooner if I weren't so busy with my other stuff before. I beg pardon for the delay and at the same time express gratitude for the confirmation.Yes of course my friend, anytime. I'm just being honest. Your mom looks like a Filipina mestiza. But for security purposes, I suggest you remove the pics and personal information after a while. There are always trolls out there :)

I'm sure you have some Spanish ancestry as well as your native ancestry.

[Isleño]

We all have a niche in here. :) How was your 4rth of July?

I had a blast! We barbecued steaks, ribs, hamburgers and chicken. I went to a seafood boil down the street from my house where there was a jazz band. We popped many fireworks all day. I ate lots and drank lots :)

[Selurong]

Yes of course my friend, anytime. I'm just being honest. Your mom looks like a Filipina mestiza. But for security purposes, I suggest you remove the pics and personal information after a while. There are always trolls out there :)

I'm sure you have some Spanish ancestry as well as your native ancestry.

It's funny how she looks mestiza when she's only 1/4rth. And ok, I will hide or erase the information after a while. I have enough stalkers as it is already.

And I am quite proud of both my native and foreign ancestries but in everyday life I wouldn't consider myself very special at all and I'm just an ordinary person if you met me. Ancestry is only secondary to one's individual bearing as one's personal interactions is more important than a draw of the dice sort of thing we call ancestry or descent.

[Selurong]

I had a blast! We barbecued steaks, ribs, hamburgers and chicken. I went to a seafood boil down the street from my house where there was a jazz band. We popped many fireworks all day. I ate lots and drank lots :)

I love that sort of configuration where all the hang-outs are just a walking distance. 4rth of July fireworks are the best. And I would like nothing more than to listen to a Jazz band in the place where Jazz originated! Gosh. I'd love to go visit your place one day but my relatives in America are in Chicago or California. Very far from your state.

[Isleño]

It's funny how she looks mestiza when she's only 1/4rth. And ok, I will hide or erase the information after a while. I have enough stalkers as it is already.

And I am quite proud of both my native and foreign ancestries but in everyday life I wouldn't consider myself very special at all and I'm just an ordinary person if you met me. Ancestry is only secondary to one's individual bearing as one's personal interactions is more important than a draw of the dice sort of thing we call ancestry or descent.

The Spanish ancestry must be surfacing in her phenotype. Genetics are tricky like that.

And you are right. A person's character should be more valued than a person's ancestry.

[Isleño]

I love that sort of configuration where all the hang-outs are just a walking distance. 4rth of July fireworks are the best. And I would like nothing more than to listen to a Jazz band in the place where Jazz originated! Gosh. I'd love to go visit your place one day but my relatives in America are in Chicago or California. Very far from your state.

Well, maybe one day you can go to Chicago and take a flight down to Louisiana for a bit. You can visit New Orleans, which has great colonial architecture from both France and Spain. Louisiana is a fun state, lots of partying, celebrating and having fun. Great food and music too. You could also see where the first Filipino village in the United States stood, called St. Malo Village in St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana.

[simple]

No I don't think so. I think it's more than that, we'll at least, according to the census.

23andme still hadn't tweaked their schematics to reflect the complexity of Philippine history.

Thinking that races are clear cut rather than blended as what we have here, since we are an even older melting pot than America and even Mexico since the Chinese, Malays and Indians criss-crossed here before even the first Iberian stepped foot in Latin-American soil.

And plus one cannot guess one's ancestry judging by phenotype alone.

Just look at this picture of my mom and the action star, Fernando Poe Jr.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103743_zps5nmauxjo.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/IMG_20140705_103743_zps5nmauxjo.jpg.html)

One would have never guessed that my Mum is only 1/4rth Portuguese (Or in Dictator's eyes, just 1/4rth Basque) or that Fernando Poe Jr. was half American (Since his Filipino father, Ronald Allan K. Poe married the American woman Elizabeth Kelley and begot him)

If one didn't know the exact ancestries. One would say that my Mum would be Mestiza and Fernando Poe Jr. A mere Indio. Judging solely in skin color and phenotype. When in fact FPJ is more European than my Mum, who is Cholo while FPJ is Castizo.

Actually FPJ's mother is half Filipino, her name is Elizabeth 'Bessie' Gatbonton Kelley and Fernando Poe Jr. father belong to Spanish Mestizo clan from Pangasinan

Pou is the original spelling of the family's surname from his grandfather, playwright Lorenzo Pou, a Catalan migrant from Majorca, Spain, who ventured into mining and business in the Philippines.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E8_sL1RpqDA/TaboQ_AUM1I/AAAAAAAAEHc/lDuIpCBy23w/s400/FPJ%2Bcopy.jpg
^His mother Filipino native ethnic is Kapampangan.

FPJ real name is Ronald Allan Kelly Poe; he is not the real Jr., I think it's his older brother whose TV screen name Ronald lol they switch names on screen because FPJ I think is more popular than his brother.

[zhaoyun]

I actually would of haven't have posted here without Zhaoyun's summons. He's a cool dude, so I trust the words and motives of a cool dude.

You would've posted here as soon as you found this thread. LOL I just figured it'd be of interest to you obviously.

[RMuller]

At RMuller and Dictator Carlos...

An ordinary East Asian and European admixture looks like this...

(without eye-contacts and surgery)

1) A Half-Korean and Half-French Dude from Hapa voices named Daniel Sitterle.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg.html)

2) And Maria Smyres; a Half German and Half Japanese.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWWJbkuVfTUD5y-RA0d6_yQWGMx0t99ogYRl-VKgO-JctbAykt9Q

They do not look any different than these 2 Filipino dudes in this crowd party.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg.html)

Or the rapper named Abra
http://a.wattpad.com/cover/13497310-256-k354187.jpg

This ordinary Filipino look is already the Eurasian look of them East Asian and European mixes of the Asians you exoticize so much. So you have absolutely no right to deny us of our real Hispanic ancestry when our phenotype is blatantly obvious especially when we are what you get when you Europeans race-mix with East Asians.

roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Who do you think you are fooling?

These Pinoys are typical Filipinos and don't look like Half White/Pinoy mixes.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxaOdoGbzZD-Ez87UOPV5C2K7h9K5JoZVwnhfyClr833P392Gh

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV

http://www.smomun.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/philippines-food-kits.jpg

[RMuller]

You are not even Filipino who set you up as an expert over us? Furthermore, have you even read simple's litany of families? She basically said a thousand family names complete with genealogical branching and even that is just a small minority since most of the immigrants have not documented their geneology...

And that still wouldn't be enough for you.





That is a blatant lie. Do you know how many fortresses are there in the Philippines? Hundreds, and a hundred Spaniards can barely man one fort! And in order to maintain the network of military fortifications across the archipelago especially at the height of the wars to suppress the Chinese revolts or the Moro Insurrection you need a standing military of at least 5,000 (by the very least) officered pure Spaniards (disregarding the Latin-American mercenaries and Filipino native soldiers) per year. 100 Spaniards per year is not only impossible but the facts speak against it. In fact, during the Campaigns of 1886–87 at Jolo, alone, there were 1500 Spaniards serving as soldiers and officers to take and Christianize the area. If there is only 100 Spaniards arriving, per year what are the 1500 Spaniards doing? Waging war against the Muslims? Your statement is false and biased and completely against logic.








No. You are the liar. Fedor Jagor was a German who was spy against Spain, and they wanted to take-over the Philippines.He reported his findings to his handlers and the information was published in Blackwell magazine. What motive is there for an enemy national to lie about his findings over a territory they want to invade?

Also, the thousands of pure Spaniards and Mexicans only reflected the soldiers who were recently deployed during that specific time period. What about the naturalized settlers before-hand and the children of those settlers? Just because thousands of Spaniards and South Americans were newly deployed in the Philippines during the year 1786-87. It doesn't mean that there were zero deployed before and after that point...






No, you are a joke.







Hell yeah, we are proud of our aboriginal peoples especially the Ati and the Negritos. A percentage of whom have natural brown or blonde hair they evolved independently of Europeans.

http://hannover.park.org/Philippines/pinatubo/pinat17.jpg







What a retard. Mexico declared independence from Spain in September 16, 1810 while we declared independence from Spain around June 12, 1898. That is roughly almost a century of distance. A century is made up of 4 generation, being 4 collections of 25-years each. Thus, we have had 4 more generations of Spanish citizens who are loyal to the crown than you are. In fact, you have 4 more generations of refugees and traitors to the Spanish empire who fled from Spain's Laws and took up a new nationality (Rebel Mexican shit-nationality), than we have.





Haha. Kid DON'T you ever get tired of inventing nobilities on your family tree? You have no Spanish ancestors. I hear it all the time filipinos claiming of having spanish royal blood. :picard1: you are comedy. :)






DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO I AM YOU SILLY MAN? you should be honored that you are even talking to me in this forum. I am descended from Iberians plain and simple. I am part Mexican in my dad's side and part Portuguese-Basque in my mum's side. But I am sure as hell descended from a Hidalgo clan that has been in politics for generations. My geneology is obvious and even my parents prove this.

Here let me show you, you illogical individual.




That's my mum. She's a national ambassador to the United Nations :mad:

To prove that I'm not lying; search up her name Ma. Rita Bascos Sarabia in Google search..

And you would find her name emblazoned in several Newspapers.


My dad is even worse, my Dad is stock holder of the clan company and we even have our own Hotel named after us.

So please, don't you dare fucking dictate to me what my status in life is or what my exact amount of racial admixture is because I meet up with more elite people with diverse ancestries, in a single week (who I am also related to)[And am also related to alot of other individuals, internationally) than you can in your whole life-time.

Come back and talk to me once you are friends with your president and her children or even get VIP passes in concerts purely for your ancestry.

Or else, just stay on your level and don't pretend to know about a country you are not even native to and don't pretend to know what my exact ancestry is, you who claim descend from traidors to España.

You write to much bullchit. You are just a Christian Indonesian. You aren't Hispanic at all. And only 1% of the Filipino population has Spanish blood. And all Filipinos claim to have a Spanish grandparent of Spanish nobility.:rolleyes: Very comical. you have an identity issue. Nobody will ever see you as being 'hispanic".

[Dictator]

Saludong, you barely have European ancestry (Chances of not having are higher) and you claim that the portuguese (That is spanish lol) genes are influencing your default white skin color. Yeah, right. :rotfl :rotfl

[Vesuvian Sky]

DECIDED TO ADD A POLL IN ORDER TO GET SOME STATISTICAL RESULTS ON THE HORN DOG FACTOR. VOTE!

[wvwvw]

The Philippines is a highly Roman Catholic country and cause of such (and when I've spoken to others about this they usually counter with the conservative Roman Catholic response) they can be viewed as somewhat conservative people regarding moralistic behavior and what not.

However, nearly everyone I've met from there are extremely sexual. Many of the women have hit on me in very obvious ways (some 'older' and with two kids even!) and the men seem rather 'mensa-mensa' (if you know what I mean :rolleyes:) at times and are very flirty themselves. It is a rather sexual culture too from what I've heard others mention who've done Peace Corp work over there.

I was wondering if others here found this to be the case and why may this be so? Is this a fair observation of the culture?

Discuss.

They probably mistook you for a sex tourist :lol: although I'd expect this kind of behaviour more from Thais rather than Phillipinos. Did that happen in Phillipines?

[Vesuvian Sky]

They probably mistook you for a sex tourist :lol: although I'd expect this kind of behaviour more from Thais rather than Phillipinos. Did that happen in Phillipines?


LOL!

No but seriously I live in the Anglosphere where I come across plenty of Filipino people.

Actually, the Philipines according to this map is on the same "easiness" level to hook up with girls as is Thailand:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=19491

It actually scores the easiest of all rankings: 1. :)

Also, the Philipines has its 'naughty' areas just like Thailand has Bangkok. Manila has a rather notorious red light district:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6HvogXDT3k

They don't say thrilla in Manila for nothin'.:cool:

[simple]

LOL!

No but seriously I live in the Anglosphere where I come across plenty of Filipino people.

Actually, the Philipines according to this map is on the same "easiness" level to hook up with girls as is Thailand:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=19491

It actually scores the easiest of all rankings: 1. :)

Also, the Philipines has its 'naughty' areas just like Thailand has Bangkok. Manila has a rather notorious red light district:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6HvogXDT3k

They don't say thrilla in Manila for nothin'.:cool:

There is only certain areas in the Philippines if you been to other places, A lot are still very much conservative lol and it also depends on how they were brought up individually. Did you met these people in the Philippines or somewhere else?

[Vesuvian Sky]

Did you met these people in the Philippines or somewhere else?

Somewhere else, which I will refer to as my part of the Anglosphere. Where I live I have come across many different nations of the world. And people just don't give up what makes them what they are when they arrive here. Idiosyncrasies do apply...

[Peter Nirsch]

males are unnoticeable by the women, they look similar to Vietnamese and Indonesian people.

[simple]

Somewhere else, which I will refer to as my part of the Anglosphere. Where I live I have come across many different nations of the world. And people just don't give up what makes them what they are when they arrive here. Idiosyncrasies do apply...

The other misunderstood 'tag' which people thought that 'sex' tourism is huge in the Philippines which is totally not true but if you go to places like Ermita or in Olongapo City then you will find them there on those night clubs. But if you walk around to other areas lol you even hardly notice that they exist those girls working in bar. Most of these women are in poverty level situation.

But like I said, it all depends on how we were brought up.

[Vesuvian Sky]

The other misunderstood 'tag' which people thought that 'sex' tourism is huge in the Philippines which is totally not true but if you go to places like Ermita or in Olongapo City then you will find them there on those night clubs. But if you walk around to other areas lol you even hardly notice that they exist those girls working in bar. Most of these women are in poverty level situation.

But like I said, it all depends on how we were brought up.

A country can be known for 'sex' but it doesn't necessarily mean the whole country is doing it all day long. Case in point: Japan.

Its always had a major sex industry but has one of the lowest fertility rates for an industrialized nation going these days. And of course these sex industries are usually confined to certain major towns like Tokyo etc.

Because where I live, I see many different people and can honestly see the differences among the various ethnic groups.

When I was at University, the Japanese would never dare speak to you and stuck to themselves. They were incredibly shy and reserved/introverted. Very repressive.

The Filipinos were always more outward and flirty/sexual.

The Chinese an intermediate to the Filipino people and Japanese.

[simple]

A country can be known for 'sex' but it doesn't necessarily mean the whole country is doing it all day long. Case in point: Japan.

Its always had a major sex industry but has one of the lowest fertility rates for an industrialized nation going these days. And of course these sex industries are usually confined to certain major towns like Tokyo etc.

Because where I live, I see many different people and can honestly see the differences among the various ethnic groups.

When I was at University, the Japanese would never dare speak to you and stuck to themselves. They were incredibly shy and reserved/introverted. Very repressive.

The Filipinos were always more outward and flirty/sexual.

The Chinese an intermediate to the Filipino people and Japanese.

The thing is you generalized a group of people and that you only met how many Filipinos?
to judge them based from these people? Honestly, it's like stereotype that all of us are just the same but we were all brought up differently and we all have different views.

[Vesuvian Sky]

The thing is you generalized a group of people and that you only met how many Filipinos?
to judge them based from these people?

If you are assuming I haven't met many of these people then you are making an incorrect assumption. I've been to Japan as well and its not like the Chinese are a rare people on this planet. There are significant Philippine communities here.

Also fertility rates per nation:

Japan: 1.39 birth per woman
China: 1.58 births per woman
Philipines: 3.10 births per woman

[zhaoyun]

Vesuvius,

Filipinos are pretty open and friendly, but I think you are getting too carried away describing them as being horny all the time. I haven't noticed them being significantly more or less horny than other groups, especially not in comparison to Europeans. So I think that label is a bit inaccurate. Perhaps you came across a couple horny ones, but I grew up around a lot of Filipinos and havent noticed this as a specific trait to them.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Vesuvius,

Filipinos are pretty open and friendly, but I think you are getting too carried away describing them as being horny all the time. I haven't noticed them being significantly more or less horny than other groups, especially not in comparison to Europeans. So I think that label is a bit inaccurate. Perhaps you came across a couple horny ones, but I grew up around a lot of Filipinos and havent noticed this as a specific trait to them.


Well that certainly hasn't been my observation.:) The stats I've provided as well lend support.

[zhaoyun]

Well that certainly hasn't been my observation.:) The stats I've provided as well lend support.

I took a look at the map you provided. I don't know who or how those stats are compiled, but I think there are a lot of factors at play rather than simply the level of "horniness" by the natives. I think countries that have a more socially liberal culture plus being socio-economically poorer probably score higher on the "easiness" level, perhaps because more women are looking for men of higher socio-economic status and thus make themselves more "available".

Same thing with the red light districts, these exist because unfortunately due to the high level of poverty in the Philippines, many women turn to the sex industry to make a living and also perhaps find a man who could bring them overseas or provide a better life. I don't think they are innately horny, they are just making use of the meager opportunities available to them.

Honestly, I don't have anything against you and I dont mean to be rude but the more you harp about how horny Filipinas are, it really comes across as quite fucking obnoxious.

[simple]

If you are assuming I haven't met many of these people then you are making an incorrect assumption. I've been to Japan as well and its not like the Chinese are a rare people on this planet. There are significant Philippine communities here.

Also fertility rates per nation:

Japan: 1.39 birth per woman
China: 1.58 births per woman
Philipines: 3.10 births per woman

My mom just gave birth to only 2 Children. I'm the youngest. She knew it's not easy to support a child. So you based all of this from birth rates, population and 'Catholicism?'

[Vesuvian Sky]

I took a look at the map you provided. I don't know who or how those stats are compiled, but I think there are a lot of factors at play rather than simply the level of "horniness" by the natives. I think countries that have a more socially liberal culture plus being socio-economically poorer probably score higher on the "easiness" level, perhaps because more women are looking for men of higher socio-economic status and thus make themselves more "available".

Same thing with the red light districts, these exist because unfortunately due to the high level of poverty in the Philippines, many women turn to the sex industry to make a living and also perhaps find a man who could bring them overseas or provide a better life. I don't think they are innately horny, they are just making use of the meager opportunities available to them.

Its not about who has a red light district and who doesn't. Fertility rates and real life observations apply


Honestly, I don't have anything against you and I dont mean to be rude but the more you harp about how horny Filipinas are, it really comes across as quite fucking obnoxious.

Which is obnoxious in and of itself to say because this is an internet forum based on anthropology cultures and besides I have been very tolerant of others free speech here on this thread even allowing other discussions that are off topic to proceed.

My advice to you: if this topic bothers you or is of no interest then feel free to take your time elsewhere and contribute to different threads here. You should not be attempting to censor here anyway.

[Vesuvian Sky]

My mom just gave birth to only 2 Children. I'm the youngest. She knew it's not easy to support a child. So you based all of this from birth rates, population and 'Catholicism?'

Its based on various stats and observations. Which are fair game.

Catholicism I mentioned as a possible conservative agent.

[zhaoyun]

Its not about who has a red light district and who doesn't. Fertility rates and real life observations apply
.

Fertility rates are often tied to socio-economic development. For example, Italy once had one of the highest fertility rates in the world, but now it has one of the lowest. I don't think the level of innate horniness amongst Italian females has anything to do with this. If anything, they might be hornier now. A lot of fertility levels has to do with access and use of contraceptives and the level of socio-economic development in the population.

[simple]

Its based on various stats and observations. Which are fair game.

Catholicism I mentioned as a possible conservative agent.

It's more on social influence by what they see from the movies and internet, and poverty too because they don't have something to keep this people busy specially those who doesn't have job.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Fertility rates are often tied to socio-economic development.

They can be but not necessarily always.



For example, Italy once had one of the highest fertility rates in the world, but now it has one of the lowest.

Yeah except that the Italian economy overall isn't that great when factoring in the entire country. The poorer south is not producing larger families these days anymore.

Its not the same Italy, not the same as it once was.


I don't think the level of innate horniness amongst Italian females has anything to do with this. If anything, they might be hornier now. A lot of fertility levels has to do with access and use of contraceptives and the level of socio-economic development in the population.

Actually, its lower. Technology has alot to do with wanning sexual drives. Italy ranked surprisingly high in hours of internet usage.

[Vesuvian Sky]

It's more on social influence by what they see from the movies and internet, and poverty too because they don't have something to keep this people busy specially those who doesn't have job.

It can definitely be a factor but even where I live I've generally noticed that Filipino people are more flirty/sexual and some of these people are quite successful business people. :)

[simple]

It can definitely be a factor but even where I live I've generally noticed that Filipino people are more flirty/sexual and some of these people are quite successful business people. :)

lol I also encountered some Europeans and I've seen the same observation as yours. But I don't generalized people based on them.

Well Filipinos usually had huge family members and that is true. But I don't think because they are flirty or sexual. lol I cannot ask that question anymore to my late grandparents lol Why I didn't ask that question lol the reason why they got 12 children ahahaha...They've done their part as a parent.

[Vesuvian Sky]

lol I also encountered some Europeans and I've seen the same observation as yours. But I don't generalized people based on them.

Its really no different for any group per se. Just like there are rules and exceptions. In statistics, you'll have your outliers. But you'll also have your mean, median, and modes.

[clete27]

males are unnoticeable by the women, they look similar to Vietnamese and Indonesian people.

Vietnamese look like Chinese-Filipinos, what we call tsinoys. Regular Filipinos do look like Indonesians though.
As you can see, there are several different looks, but the two Japanese or Koreans guys really stand out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFB1cfSsJGU

Somewhere else, which I will refer to as my part of the Anglosphere. Where I live I have come across many different nations of the world. And people just don't give up what makes them what they are when they arrive here. Idiosyncrasies do apply...

the ones who go West act more liberated because they can do what they want. In the Philippines, most woman dont even wear shorts out in public, even tho it's very hot outside. If you notice in the video, not many women are wearing shorts. And the ones who are wearing shorts have shorts that go past the knee, almost capris.

[simple]

Vietnamese look like Chinese-Filipinos, what we call tsinoys. Regular Filipinos do look like Indonesians though.
As you can see, there are several different looks, but the two Japanese or Koreans guys really stand out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFB1cfSsJGU


the ones who go West act more liberated because they can do what they want. In the Philippines, most woman dont even wear shorts out in public, even tho it's very hot outside. If you notice in the video, not many women are wearing shorts. And the ones who are wearing shorts have shorts that go past the knee, almost capris.

lol in the beach or swimming pool haha..You'll see people wearing swimsuit in Boracay but not in other areas even in the pool. They wear t-shirt and shorts. Bikinis right, you hardly see that except those a bit liberated or exposed on people that wear swimsuits lol... they're even shy or they will wear swimsuit but with short.

[Vesuvian Sky]

the ones who go West act more liberated because they can do what they want. In the Philippines, most woman dont even wear shorts out in public, even tho it's very hot outside. If you notice in the video, not many women are wearing shorts. And the ones who are wearing shorts have shorts that go past the knee, almost capris.

Yes, except that my Filipino friends would dress quite conservatively even in the west and still be flirty and what have you not.

You can dress conservatively, but that doesn't mean one isn't having sex or is not interested.

Take the Amish for instance. They dress conservatively but have huge families.

[Linet]

At RMuller and Dictator Carlos...

An ordinary East Asian and European admixture looks like this...

(without eye-contacts and surgery)

1) A Half-Korean and Half-French Dude from Hapa voices named Daniel Sitterle.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2010-08/hapa24_zpsglhpdaee.jpg.html)

2) And Maria Smyres; a Half German and Half Japanese.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWWJbkuVfTUD5y-RA0d6_yQWGMx0t99ogYRl-VKgO-JctbAykt9Q

They do not look any different than these 2 Filipino dudes in this crowd party.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Filipino%20Diversity/jpbday1_zpsa08895ae.jpg.html)

Or the rapper named Abra
http://a.wattpad.com/cover/13497310-256-k354187.jpg

This ordinary Filipino look is already the Eurasian look of them East Asian and European mixes of the Asians you exoticize so much. So you have absolutely no right to deny us of our real Hispanic ancestry when our phenotype is blatantly obvious especially when we are what you get when you Europeans race-mix with East Asians.

:eusa_eh: ...the funny part is that these mixed people here are really ugly :icon_neutral:, the pure phillipinos are alot better looking :joy:
...I didnt expect this :chin:

[simple]

Yes, except that my Filipino friends would dress quite conservatively even in the west and still be flirty and what have you not.

You can dress conservatively, but that doesn't mean one isn't having sex or is not interested.

Take the Amish for instance. They dress conservatively but have huge families.

How about those who are doing it that used contraceptive methods are not counted from all over the world? Specially the countries where abortion is legal. You cannot see because there is no child statistic as evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law

[Vesuvian Sky]

How about those who are doing it that used contraceptive methods are not counted from all over the world? Specially the countries where abortion is legal.

Sure but again there are two things at play here:

The stats I cited but also behavior/outgoing attitudes etc. But even those people who are using contraceptives are still having sex.:)

To me, the external factor that truncates sexual activity significantly is technology or time on the internet more specifically. Japan is a text book example and less people have sex regularly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oI0n_cMeeo

But even before this technology boom, Japan's fertility rate was still relatively low.

[RMuller]

:eusa_eh: ...the funny part is that these mixed people here are really ugly :icon_neutral:, the pure phillipinos are alot better looking :joy:
...I didnt expect this :chin:

Saladung cherry picked the pics.

Typical Filipinos.Crowd pics .

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZJ3btTJAR63vmTl7jCh77Ox97t8akZ uL_GgxKj5A31PCFCrb1-w

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV

[simple]

Sure but again there are two things at play here:

The stats I cited but also behavior/outgoing attitudes etc. But even those people who are using contraceptives are still having sex.:)

To me, the external factor that truncates sexual activity significantly is technology or time on the internet more specifically. Japan is a text book example and less people have sex regularly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oI0n_cMeeo

But even before this technology boom, Japan's fertility rate was still relatively low.

This is kinda opposite from the Japanese people I met. I am working in a hotel industry and I encountered a lot of them... we have currently European, American, Arabic, Singapore and Japanese etc. guests that is why I based it from what i see too. The group of Japanese I encountered likes Chinese women a lot but of course I only met 10 Japanese? ...

[Vesuvian Sky]

This is kinda opposite from the Japanese people I met. I am working in a hotel industry and I encountered a lot of them... we have currently European, American, Arabic, Singapore and Japanese etc. guests that is why I based it from what i see too. The group of Japanese I encountered likes Chinese women a lot but of course I only met 10 Japanese? ...

Perhaps one could say context is a factor here in this particular situation. If people are on vacation or even a business trip sometimes, they can be a little feistier then average since they are way from "home". ;)

[clete27]

Saladung cherry picked the pics.

Typical Filipinos.Crowd pics .

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZJ3btTJAR63vmTl7jCh77Ox97t8akZ uL_GgxKj5A31PCFCrb1-w

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV

I love how a guy who has never been to the Philippines can talk so much about Filipinos and what they look like

[simple]

Perhaps one could say context is a factor here in this particular situation. If people are on vacation or even a business trip sometimes, they can be a little feistier then average since they are way from "home". ;)

Actually, being away is kind of a test on how much you are actually devoted on your other half (wife/husband). Well for others they think this is just normal lol... but for my own opinion no, if you really love your wife or husband or if you are committed to someone you should behave and not just pick someone else just for sex or pleasure because you are away from home.

[Vesuvian Sky]

Actually, being away is kind of a test on how much you are actually devoted on your other half (wife/husband). Well for others they think this is just normal lol... but for my own opinion no, if you really love your wife or husband or if you are committed to someone you should behave and not just pick someone else just for sex or pleasure because you are away from home.

Were they all married?

Agree regarding marriage nonetheless. No one should cheat on the other. Which is wrong naturally since it obviously violates the marriage.

[simple]

Were they all married?

Agree regarding marriage nonetheless. No one should cheat on the other. Which is wrong naturally since it obviously violates the marriage.

How about relationship even if not married or even they are not married but lol
I actually don't care if they have sex with so many women but it kind of turn off.
I've seen a guy who used to bring different women just for sex almost everyday and one time he doesn't have cash and need to borrow cash money from the reception because he have to pay the woman he brought in lol I actually pity the wife/girlfriend if ever that guy is married or in a relationship. But even if he is not married it really kind of turn off to see a man like that. I don't want to think that his behavior is some kind of a culture to all of his fellow countrymen.

[Vesuvian Sky]

How about relationship even if not married or even they are not married but lol
I actually don't care if they have sex with so many women but it kind of turn off.
I've seen a guy who used to bring different women just for sex almost day and one time he doesn't have cash and need to borrow from the reception because he have to pay the woman he brought in lol I actually pity the wife if ever that guy is married. But even if he is not married it really kind of turn off to see a man like that. I don't want to think that his behavior is some kind of a culture to all of his fellow countrymen.

Using prostitutes is gross.:puke

[simple]

Using prostitutes is gross.:puke

yeah, that's the other disgusting about them (the one that I encountered only). most of the women they are bringing are prostitutes.

[Selurong]

Saladung cherry picked the pics.

Typical Filipinos.Crowd pics .

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZJ3btTJAR63vmTl7jCh77Ox97t8akZ uL_GgxKj5A31PCFCrb1-w

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3rfxP8-NtzNeP7eu8bEIa6WN2bprhTIytlqJ20LsbfHiWM4mV

No. you are the ones who cherry picked the photos. See the hats in the first picture? Those are hats the Muslims wear and they have miniscule or no Hispanic or Latino Ancestry. Furthermore, they are not even the majority of Filipinos. 3/5ths of which live in the island of Luzon. They live in the island of Mindanao which only compose 1/5ths of the population. The same goes for the second pic.

Here are pictures of people from Manila using the Metro Rail Transit Station.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg.html)

You would see alot of dark haired Latino or Hispanic looking people. Go home propagandist. You just can't accept the fact that we are Hispanic by RIGHT for being the longest and oldest overseas province of the Spanish Empire and that we have been citizens of Spain 100 more years than you. This ruins your box-thinking that all Filipinos are Negritos because you are a bigot.

We'll I can cherry pick Mexicans too.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zKOkAsVZMsA/TBrHzIHjVsI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/shko9e-x5BU/s1600/435.JPG

Look at all the shit-skinned Mexican people from Mexico City pretending to be Mestizo while ordinary Manileños using the Train Station are obviously more white-skinned when they board the MRT.

And seriously, I am wasting my time on you. Even if I show you the grant to our land awarded by the King of Spain due to our Hidalgo ancestry and our services in the war against the Bruenei Sultanate, you still wouldn't believe I have Hispanic genes.

Anyway, here's more shit-skinned Mexicunts
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uXDMPKN0Bjo/TQaaYV4InOI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/3ubkA5sTgAo/s400/Drummer+girls.jpg
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/12/12/47/2664922/10/628x471.jpg

Now, look at all the Negrito looking ordinary Filipenis.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg.html)
http://filipinobiography.com/wp-content/gallery/spotted/filipino-biography-_-spotted.jpg
http://heart-2-heart-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/img_4919.jpg


Also, heck I already proved to you that I come from an old political clan and my mum looks like a fucking Mestiza and I mingle with Presidents and Actors who are also part European and I am related to them, and you would still label me a Negrito. You are hopeless and you even twist the truth and scientific studies and censuses to further your bigoted agenda.

The only one losing credibility here is you, you insurrecto. And IDC about your prejudices and biases I know my geneology. And I doubt that you even have one.

Me and simple who is part French-Filipino both have mothers who's clans come from Pangasinan where there are tons of Mestizos and Mestizas; part Portuguese, part French, part Spanish, part Italian and whatever Catholic European there is, in addition to some areas in the Philippines like Puerto Princessa founded by Colombians or Zamboanga del Sur founded by Mexicans.

But you wont believe that even if we show you our genealogy records, the royal deeds granted us by the Spanish King or whatevs. So I'm wasting my time on you. You coward. You won't even show us your face here or post pictures of your family and you have the gall to judge me who has more exposure than you?

It's obvious that you are only doing this because you are a troll and love to troll Filipinos. Whatever.

[Selurong]

This is an ordinary Mexican family
https://back2backministries.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/whited2.jpg
http://tcsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Fam.jpg

See how Caucasian their features are and how white their skin is? This is the mark of Mestizo ancestry in Mexicans; all Mexicans have around 50% European blood that's why they all look like that.

http://www.lifewithlisa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/family.jpg
All Filipinos have zero European blood and only 1% of the total population have any European blood. They are all predominantly Negrito. That's why they look like that.

[Dictator]

Saludong, you don't have the rights to call them shitskins or other things, because you are brown skinned like them.

[RMuller]

This is an ordinary Mexican family
https://back2backministries.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/whited2.jpg
http://tcsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Fam.jpg

See how Caucasian their features are and how white their skin is? This is the mark of Mestizo ancestry in Mexicans; all Mexicans have around 50% European blood that's why they all look like that.

http://www.lifewithlisa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/family.jpg
All Filipinos have zero European blood and only 1% of the total population have any European blood. They are all predominantly Negrito. That's why they look like that.

Poor saladung again posting his cherry picked photos. Hes ashamed of his aeta,negrita,papuan blood:D. So he makes up lies to be descendant of Spaniards,portuguese,aliens etc.:picard1: and of royalty blood lmaoo
Poor saladung thinks his skin is white.:picard1: Poor saldung thinks his mother looks mestiza.:picard1:
Poor saladung steals some ladies identity and tries to pass it off as his mother.:picard1:
Poor saladung has shit skin color but thinks its white.:D
Poor saladung thinks he is Hispanic. :picard1:

[Han Cholo]

Saludong, you don't have the rights to call them shitskins or other things, because you are brown skinned like them.

No, he's white.

[Dictator]

No, he's white.

Default white*

[Han Cholo]

Saludong, seriously. I don't see any difference in these skin colors:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=10963&dateline=1394560332

https://back2backministries.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/whited2.jpg

Shitskin? :lol00002::lol00002:

[RMuller]

No. you are the ones who cherry picked the photos. See the hats in the first picture? Those are hats the Muslims wear and they have miniscule or no Hispanic or Latino Ancestry. Furthermore, they are not even the majority of Filipinos. 3/5ths of which live in the island of Luzon. They live in the island of Mindanao which only compose 1/5ths of the population. The same goes for the second pic.

Here are pictures of people from Manila using the Metro Rail Transit Station.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg.html)

You would see alot of dark haired Latino or Hispanic looking people. Go home propagandist. You just can't accept the fact that we are Hispanic by RIGHT for being the longest and oldest overseas province of the Spanish Empire and that we have been citizens of Spain 100 more years than you. This ruins your box-thinking that all Filipinos are Negritos because you are a bigot.

We'll I can cherry pick Mexicans too.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zKOkAsVZMsA/TBrHzIHjVsI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/shko9e-x5BU/s1600/435.JPG

Look at all the shit-skinned Mexican people from Mexico City pretending to be Mestizo while ordinary Manileños using the Train Station are obviously more white-skinned when they board the MRT.

And seriously, I am wasting my time on you. Even if I show you the grant to our land awarded by the King of Spain due to our Hidalgo ancestry and our services in the war against the Bruenei Sultanate, you still wouldn't believe I have Hispanic genes.

Anyway, here's more shit-skinned Mexicunts
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uXDMPKN0Bjo/TQaaYV4InOI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/3ubkA5sTgAo/s400/Drummer+girls.jpg
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/12/12/47/2664922/10/628x471.jpg

Now, look at all the Negrito looking ordinary Filipenis.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg.html)
http://filipinobiography.com/wp-content/gallery/spotted/filipino-biography-_-spotted.jpg
http://heart-2-heart-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/img_4919.jpg


Also, heck I already proved to you that I come from an old political clan and my mum looks like a fucking Mestiza and I mingle with Presidents and Actors who are also part European and I am related to them, and you would still label me a Negrito. You are hopeless and you even twist the truth and scientific studies and censuses to further your bigoted agenda.

The only one losing credibility here is you, you insurrecto. And IDC about your prejudices and biases I know my geneology. And I doubt that you even have one.

Me and simple who is part French-Filipino both have mothers who's clans come from Pangasinan where there are tons of Mestizos and Mestizas; part Portuguese, part French, part Spanish, part Italian and whatever Catholic European there is, in addition to some areas in the Philippines like Puerto Princessa founded by Colombians or Zamboanga del Sur founded by Mexicans.

But you wont believe that even if we show you our genealogy records, the royal deeds granted us by the Spanish King or whatevs. So I'm wasting my time on you. You coward. You won't even show us your face here or post pictures of your family and you have the gall to judge me who has more exposure than you?

It's obvious that you are only doing this because you are a troll and love to troll Filipinos. Whatever.

Saldung you look like a low class sewer dweller from Manilla,so i don't know how you can mingle with the President of the Philipines. Maybe you met her when she was handing out rice,dog meat for votes? :cool:

Shitskin saladung more Hispanic than Mexicans? haha poor saldung looks like a vietnamese dipped in chocolate "shitskin". :bored:

You are a shitskinned Penoy-Katoey

This is what typical filipinos look like and you look no different. You have European blood??? lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Filipinos have natural shit skin color like yourself .Thousands of people on the pics no cherry pic. Pinoys have classic charcoaled shitskin

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRg6otaGPSleoEFEpQWtR80NXwKdpSD1 rkK-P9DlWdrEra_lwnD

http://stream.aljazeera.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_big_thumbnail/manila-protest.jpg

http://www.internationalist.org/oustgloriademo050907.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_lyne6gZDxXuEKWqnmHvEg2b3jTzmR MmCqAJU808SaLsT-7jf

http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_vum4qopkc8rwfigtdwmoceuip9cuhuuo.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_soN6WVO3pPosTdtp5gpeA3TYbRE_X NIinFvEjtSxt8P8drKd

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3zTOpvhNd2wre_CjfSi54-5NgFulKwmr77G4fh5wxYUyDyP1P

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-sLMpapr-WZMBq7k0fsK9zm2IsziD9mQwNSc4YyYqkyf97crYhw

https://revolutionaryfrontlines.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/philippines-farmers-protest-2009-1-22-5-3-20.jpg

http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/9845543.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ddMkFDxv41w/T7dEPGE-n4I/AAAAAAAAHqA/mk4TuHJX-gg/s320/anti-lady-gaga-protester-huwag-magpapa-gaga--philippines-funny-pinoy-jokes-2012.jpg

[Selurong]

Poor saladung again posting his cherry picked photos. Hes ashamed of his aeta,negrita,papuan blood:D. So he makes up lies to be descendant of Spaniards,portuguese,aliens etc.:picard1: and of royalty blood lmaoo
Poor saladung thinks his skin is white.:picard1: Poor saldung thinks his mother looks mestiza.:picard1:
Poor saladung steals some ladies identity and tries to pass it off as his mother.:picard1:
Poor saladung has shit skin color but thinks its white.:D
Poor saladung thinks he is Hispanic. :picard1:

You are retarded that's really my mother
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http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Photobucket_zps006de816.png (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Photobucket_zps006de816.png.html)

[Selurong]

Saldung you look like a low class sewer dweller from Manilla,so i don't know how you can mingle with the President of the Philipines. Maybe you met her when she was handing out rice,dog meat for votes? :cool:

Shitskin saladung more Hispanic than Mexicans? haha poor saldung looks like a vietnamese dipped in chocolate "shitskin". :bored:

You are a shitskinned Penoy-Katoey

This is what typical filipinos look like and you look no different. You have European blood??? lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Filipinos have natural shit skin color like yourself .Thousands of people on the pics no cherry pic. Pinoys have classic charcoaled shitskin

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRg6otaGPSleoEFEpQWtR80NXwKdpSD1 rkK-P9DlWdrEra_lwnD

http://stream.aljazeera.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_big_thumbnail/manila-protest.jpg

http://www.internationalist.org/oustgloriademo050907.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_lyne6gZDxXuEKWqnmHvEg2b3jTzmR MmCqAJU808SaLsT-7jf

http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_vum4qopkc8rwfigtdwmoceuip9cuhuuo.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_soN6WVO3pPosTdtp5gpeA3TYbRE_X NIinFvEjtSxt8P8drKd

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3zTOpvhNd2wre_CjfSi54-5NgFulKwmr77G4fh5wxYUyDyP1P

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-sLMpapr-WZMBq7k0fsK9zm2IsziD9mQwNSc4YyYqkyf97crYhw

https://revolutionaryfrontlines.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/philippines-farmers-protest-2009-1-22-5-3-20.jpg

http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/9845543.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ddMkFDxv41w/T7dEPGE-n4I/AAAAAAAAHqA/mk4TuHJX-gg/s320/anti-lady-gaga-protester-huwag-magpapa-gaga--philippines-funny-pinoy-jokes-2012.jpg

I really have half a mind to really have your IP address tracked down by my contacts in the army and have you water boarded you irreverent piece of shit. But I promised Novella that I wouldn't threaten anyone here so i'll just let this one slide. Please stop being a troll and show your face, coward. If not then I'll go on my life without you. Or have you placed on ignore. No matter how much truth you hammer down somebody if they are absurdly stubborn then there is nothing I can do about it.

*sigh.

If you go on your dishonest, cowardly and trollish ways. Then it's your loss not mine. I just pray that one day you may change for the better.

[Selurong]

Saludong, you don't have the rights to call them shitskins or other things, because you are brown skinned like them.

I know. But he started it first by saying that we all look like Negritos or Vietnamese dipped in chocolate and I am merely responding with adequate force. I minded my business, talking about romance and Catholicism in my first post before that foul-mouthed asshole came along and said that retarded remark.

Racisim and Colorism is wrong but when you apply that to me, I will deal you back.

[Selurong]

Saludong, seriously. I don't see any difference in these skin colors:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=10963&dateline=1394560332

https://back2backministries.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/whited2.jpg

Shitskin? :lol00002::lol00002:

If you read our conversation, he started with the foul remarks first. Shitskin was simply what I call that coward who wouldn't even show his face to me like a man. Before, he came along and struck first; by saying we look like Negritos, of Vietnamese dipped in chocolate...

And in a previous thread he called us even worse names. Just ask Clete.

We'll I'm sorry about that remark and it was only out of anger. I should have directed my insults solely at him and not your whole nationality.

[clete27]

Full-blooded, dirt poor Filipino who happened to get adopted. He's what the poor Filipinos would look like if they ate enough and had a good lifestyle. He can probably beat your weak ass
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/3-X2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XGatp0-yXU

[LOCOMANDANTE]

No. you are the ones who cherry picked the photos. See the hats in the first picture? Those are hats the Muslims wear and they have miniscule or no Hispanic or Latino Ancestry. Furthermore, they are not even the majority of Filipinos. 3/5ths of which live in the island of Luzon. They live in the island of Mindanao which only compose 1/5ths of the population. The same goes for the second pic.

Here are pictures of people from Manila using the Metro Rail Transit Station.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg (/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/philippines-crowd2_zpsa5170108.jpg.html)

You would see alot of dark haired Latino or Hispanic looking people. Go home propagandist. You just can't accept the fact that we are Hispanic by RIGHT for being the longest and oldest overseas province of the Spanish Empire and that we have been citizens of Spain 100 more years than you. This ruins your box-thinking that all Filipinos are Negritos because you are a bigot.

We'll I can cherry pick Mexicans too.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zKOkAsVZMsA/TBrHzIHjVsI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/shko9e-x5BU/s1600/435.JPG

Look at all the shit-skinned Mexican people from Mexico City pretending to be Mestizo while ordinary Manileños using the Train Station are obviously more white-skinned when they board the MRT.

And seriously, I am wasting my time on you. Even if I show you the grant to our land awarded by the King of Spain due to our Hidalgo ancestry and our services in the war against the Bruenei Sultanate, you still wouldn't believe I have Hispanic genes.

Anyway, here's more shit-skinned Mexicunts
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uXDMPKN0Bjo/TQaaYV4InOI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/3ubkA5sTgAo/s400/Drummer+girls.jpg
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/12/12/47/2664922/10/628x471.jpg

Now, look at all the Negrito looking ordinary Filipenis.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg (/user/saludong/media/Group%20Pics%20of%20Filipinos/24callxlarge1_zps0b4bd9ce.jpg.html)
http://filipinobiography.com/wp-content/gallery/spotted/filipino-biography-_-spotted.jpg
http://heart-2-heart-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/img_4919.jpg


Also, heck I already proved to you that I come from an old political clan and my mum looks like a fucking Mestiza and I mingle with Presidents and Actors who are also part European and I am related to them, and you would still label me a Negrito. You are hopeless and you even twist the truth and scientific studies and censuses to further your bigoted agenda.

The only one losing credibility here is you, you insurrecto. And IDC about your prejudices and biases I know my geneology. And I doubt that you even have one.

Me and simple who is part French-Filipino both have mothers who's clans come from Pangasinan where there are tons of Mestizos and Mestizas; part Portuguese, part French, part Spanish, part Italian and whatever Catholic European there is, in addition to some areas in the Philippines like Puerto Princessa founded by Colombians or Zamboanga del Sur founded by Mexicans.

But you wont believe that even if we show you our genealogy records, the royal deeds granted us by the Spanish King or whatevs. So I'm wasting my time on you. You coward. You won't even show us your face here or post pictures of your family and you have the gall to judge me who has more exposure than you?

It's obvious that you are only doing this because you are a troll and love to troll Filipinos. Whatever.

What the fuck man. Minor hispanic ancestry? Most filipinos are just asians.

[Selurong]

I'm officially placing RMuller in my Ignore List. He stresses me out and I don't want to threaten people again and I don't want to break a promise to Novella not to do it.

[RMuller]

You are retarded that's really my mother
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http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Photobucket_zps006de816.png (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Photobucket_zps006de816.png.html)

lmaooooo. You probably share the same last name that you claim is your mother. lmaooooo

If you really wanted to prove she was your mother you would of posted pics you next to your so called mother kicking at your or her casa. :rolleyes2:

[RMuller]

Full-blooded, dirt poor Filipino who happened to get adopted. He's what the poor Filipinos would look like if they ate enough and had a good lifestyle. He can probably beat your weak ass

Weak ass are filipinos who are prone to being katoeys "trannies". lmaoooo at filipinos being 1% euro. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

lmaoo filipinos claiming to have spanish grandparentshttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

[clete27]

What the fuck man. Minor hispanic ancestry? Most filipinos are just asians.

"Asian" is meaningless because half the world's population is Asian, and people from Palestine to Korea to Sri Lanka are considered Asian, therefore, it's not a race or culture, just a geographic term. If we wanna talk about culture, linguistics, and genetics, then Filipinos are Austronesian, related to the groups in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuPOZW9Jh6I
From Madagascar to Easter Island to Taiwan. #themoreyouknow

[Selurong]

Don't even bother RMuller. I can't see your posts anymore and what a relief. I can finally stop listening to a person who's changed his nationality so many times (Spanish then Mexican and then American). It's obvious he has zero sense of honor, reverence or almost no loyalty whatsoever.

You make a bad name of Mexicans who thankfully, some are more honorable minded than you.

And most Mexicans don't resort to outright lying and twisting of facts to suit his agenda. Unlike you. You should be quarantined from the other sane and good Mexicans.

[RMuller]

I really have half a mind to really have your IP address tracked down by my contacts in the army and have you water boarded you irreverent piece of shit. But I promised Novella that I wouldn't threaten anyone here so i'll just let this one slide. Please stop being a troll and show your face, coward. If not then I'll go on my life without you. Or have you placed on ignore. No matter how much truth you hammer down somebody if they are absurdly stubborn then there is nothing I can do about it.

*sigh.

If you go on your dishonest, cowardly and trollish ways. Then it's your loss not mine. I just pray that one day you may change for the better.

Translation: You are butthurt. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

[clete27]

Weak ass are filipinos who are prone to being katoeys "trannies". lmaoooo at filipinos being 1% euro. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

lmaoo filipinos claiming to have spanish grandparentshttp://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

If a Filipino claims to have a Spanish grandparent, they probably lying. But great great great great grandparent is likely, but no Filipino can trace their ancestry back that far.

Katoey is a Thai term. Yeah, we have ladyboys and it's accepted because it's part of lots of Austronesian cultures. Even in Samoa, Tonga, and New Zealand, they have them and they are well-accepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_g6X2PEvs
It's called acceptance and tolerance for people who were born differently. Austronesians from Philippines to Indonesia to Samoa have always tolerated this. Maybe your people should learn tolerance....

[Selurong]

If a Filipino claims to have a Spanish grandparent, they probably lying. But great great great great grandparent is likely, but no Filipino can trace their ancestry back that far.

Katoey is a Thai term. Yeah, we have ladyboys and it's accepted because it's part of lots of Austronesian cultures. Even in Samoa, Tonga, and New Zealand, they have them and they are well-accepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_g6X2PEvs
It's called acceptance and tolerance for people who were born differently. Austronesians from Philippines to Indonesia to Samoa have always tolerated this. Maybe your people should learn tolerance....

By the way he speaks in an incendiary manner and his lack of regard for facts and logic plus his retorts and calling people names, in addition to his cherry-picking I wish that he could be quarantined from the other sane Mexicans. I'm glad I can't see any of his posts anymore.

And our tolerance towards trannies and homosexuals shouldn't be viewed as a weakness, more as a sign of civility and open mindedness.

[simple]

There's nothing wrong with having a negrito ancestors and were actually proud of them because they added the diversity of Filipino people. well there are some Mexican who has it too and they are still proud that they have Filipino Ancestor. Lorenzo Paulo descendant from Salina Cruz, some of their descendants may pass still as Filipinos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im5Ic71A1eo

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=634

Filipino Clan Thrives in Mexico

Philippine News, Floro L. Mercene Posted: Jul 02, 2002 Review it on NewsTrust

SALINA CRUZ, Mexico - Salina Cruz is a bustling port city on the Pacific coast of Oaxaca state nearly a thousand kilometers south of Mexico City.

Among its half million inhabitants is a big clan fathered by a sailor who landed here as a fugitive from Manila in 1854.

His name was Lorenzo Paulo. He died in 1902. Every year, during Easter Sunday, his descendants, now numbering more than a hundred, hold a vela or family reunion to honor his memory.

During this year’s vela, they held a three-day festival attended by 2,000 people, which included family friends and guests.

A videotape of the event showed members of the clan placing huge bunches of flowers on the tomb of their ancestor while an orchestra played festive airs.

The second and third day was devoted to dining, dancing and speeches.

The state of Oaxaca (pronounced “wa-ha-ka”), which lies next to Chiapas, is famous for its unique Indian cultures, an offshoot of the great Mayan civilization that flourished in Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras 3,000 years ago.

Descendants of the intrepid Filipino sailor Paulo dance through the night clad in clothes richly embroidered with flowers and birds, a mark of the dazzling Indian culture that still prevails in this part of Mexico.

Many wonder why these people hold their Filipino ancestor with so much reverence.

Traveling here, around 50 members of the clan showed up at the fine house of the prevailing family patriarch Don Santiago Paulo, now 77, a retired professor and is the grandson of Lorenzo.

With me as adviser and translator was Norma Mendoza Clay, a friend from the old tourism office in Manila and a Mexico City resident for nearly 40 years.

Lorenzo ran away from home as a stowaway on a Spanish ship that left Manila Bay when he was 14 years old. He wandered the four corners of the world as a sailor.

In 1854, as narrated by Don Santiago, he and a Filipino friend, Fernando Javier, jumped ship off the isthmus of Tehuantepec in southern Mexico, got married to the local girls and settled down for good.

Lorenzo fathered 12 children.

In 1859, Benito Juarez, then governor of Oaxaca - became Mexico’s first Indian president - appointed Lorenzo as chief of security of the port of Salina Cruz. He developed a reputation as a tough hombre and was referred to even by his descendants as “patron Lorenzo.”

A former barrio of Tehuantepec, Salina Cruz became a city in its own right with Lorenzo as one of its founding fathers.

When he died in 1902, he left behind scores of descendants who had intermarried with Mexicans of all racial types and classes.

Many of the grandchildren and great grandchildren I met had strong Filipino features — brown complexion, straight black hair and flat noses - but many were definitely handsome. When Salina Cruz was made into a city, the town’s leaders objected to recognizing Lorenzo as one of its founders.

His descendants resisted the move with all their might, thus their yearly vela, which they celebrate to tell all and sundry that their Filipino ancestor made his mark in the world.

When Dr. Jaime Veneracion, head of the history department of the University of the Philippines, visited Oaxaca some 10 years ago, he met two women who told him their ancestor was a Filipino.

Veneracion wrote an article about his encounter, which was read by a Filipino journalist working for Canadian radio, Carlos Chibu Lagman.

During one of his many forays to Chiapas, Lagman went to Salina Cruz to seek out the Paulo family. He found them and stayed with them for a few days. Lagman lives in Alberta, Canada.

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^The writer doesn't know that not all Filipinos are flat noses to describe a certain features of 'Filipino person'... well brown yes because we are located in a tropical country and we have negrito ancestors that also added but a lot are also light brown to totally light features.

Mexicans who has Filipino Ancestry

Martha Lili Rosales Lopez looks like Patricia Javier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCxrz-10yw

Mongoy Family
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2007/spmar07/filipinos.jpg

Guadalupe Gomez Maganda (Maganda family of Guerrero)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml1w1Vkp_rE

Lily Maganda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6CQfwuggGQ

[Selurong]

If people want a fair assesment of Filipinos why don't they look at this crowd of party-goers in Boracay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IePa_pZIKus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toHHNzlXrd4

They're from the whole Philippines, not just one area or just poor people. They are young too and have not been disfigured by age.

[Selurong]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TcWl61SuBE

Damn, I miss Boracay.

[simple]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hBheRqPD4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdkTYO8Eddo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7u7uBkXF4o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NglbK67QnzY

[simple]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9bZUtHj0xY

[Selurong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9bZUtHj0xY

Simple, both you and my martial arts coach are part French albeit of long-time Filipino citizenship, his maternal ancestor is a French Duchess of the Royal house of Valois.

This is his ancestor.

Benedicto, Marciano Valois, Born Jan 02 1911 in La Carlota City, Neg. Occ. Phils., Died Jan 29 1988 in Manila, Phils.

Source: http://tribalpages.com/tribe/familytree?uid=benedicto&surname=Benedicto

And this is his maternal side's house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Valois

He's teaching me mixed martial arts right now. Do you want me to introduce him to you?

The highest rank I have in my paternal side is just Hidalgo (Knight) even though some of us became captains of the town of Nueva Ecija although my mum's side is more decorated.

I think he's quite oblivious to it though and he's a humble dude.

Do you want me to introduce him to you?

[simple]

Simple, both you and my martial arts coach are part French albeit of long-time Filipino citizenship, his maternal ancestor is a French Duchess of the Royal house of Valois.

This is his ancestor.

Benedicto, Marciano Valois, Born Jan 02 1911 in La Carlota City, Neg. Occ. Phils., Died Jan 29 1988 in Manila, Phils.

Source: http://tribalpages.com/tribe/familytree?uid=benedicto&surname=Benedicto

And this is his maternal side's house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Valois

He's teaching me mixed martial arts right now. Do you want me to introduce him to you?

The highest rank I have in my paternal side is just Hidalgo (Knight) even though some of us became captains of the town of Nueva Ecija although my mum's side is more decorated.

I think he's quite oblivious to it though and he's a humble dude.

Do you want me to introduce him to you?

His ancestor was born in the
Philippines 1897 so 1 yr before Philippine independence.oh I check the other names. The Gaston family is also from Negros Occidental

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Leopold_Germain_Gaston

Look at how some of the new generation Gaston Family members look like.
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3659/3037/1600/970767/DSC05742.jpg
http://ylggaston.blogspot.com/

Yves Leopold Germain Gaston
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3659/3037/1600/yves%20leopold%20germain%20gaston.jpg
Their Ancestor

one of the son that put up the Balay Negrense
http://www.balaynegrense.com/05%20Gaston%20Family/02.jpg
Victor Leopold Fernandez Gaston
http://www.balaynegrense.com/Gaston%20Family.html

[Selurong]

His ancestor was born in the
Philippines 1897 so 1 yr before Philippine independence.oh I check the other names. The Gaston family is also from Negros Occidental

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Leopold_Germain_Gaston

Look at how some of the new generation Gaston Family members look like.
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3659/3037/1600/970767/DSC05742.jpg
http://ylggaston.blogspot.com/

Yves Leopold Germain Gaston
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3659/3037/1600/yves%20leopold%20germain%20gaston.jpg
Their Ancestor

one of the son that put up the Balay Negrense
http://www.balaynegrense.com/05%20Gaston%20Family/02.jpg
Victor Leopold Fernandez Gaston
http://www.balaynegrense.com/Gaston%20Family.html

I find it soo silly that most people will judge us to have zero european ancestry just because of our current phenotype but you can obviously see in the picture of the Gascon family (Who are indistinguishable from the common Filipino person but have geneology to prove it) that we clearly do. [In their case, French ancestry]

There are a lot of Castizos and Mestizos who live in Negros Island and I am also related to them because most of them came from Jaro, Iloilo (My place) before they migrated to cities in Negros. This isn't only the case here but large areas of Pangasinan (Where my mum's father is from and would probably be neighbors with your ancestors), Manila, Cebu, Iloilo, Negros and Zamboanga have large European descended populations consisting not only of Spaniards but also of French, Italian and Portuguese people this is in addition to the Columbians, Mexicans and Peruvians who founded several key cities in the Philippines: i.e Puerto Princessa City or Cavite City or Zamboanga City. Those who hate us or persecute us for simply claiming that we have European descent should be schooled thoroughly. This is merely an extension of America's propaganda to de-latinize the Philippines. How can we deny our ancestors their right to be recognized? Anyway, people shouldn'tjudge anyone just by looking at the surface since people are wonderful things that is worth more than just physical appearance.

[simple]

I find it soo silly that most people will judge us to have zero european ancestry just because of our current phenotype but you can obviously see in the picture of the Gascon family (Who are indistinguishable from the common Filipino person but have geneology to prove it) that we clearly do. [In their case, French ancestry]

There are a lot of Castizos and Mestizos who live in Negros Island and I am also related to them because most of them came from Jaro, Iloilo (My place) before they migrated to cities in Negros. This isn't only the case here but large areas of Pangasinan (Where my mum's father is from and would probably be neighbors with your ancestors), Manila, Cebu, Iloilo, Negros and Zamboanga have large European descended populations consisting not only of Spaniards but also of French, Italian and Portuguese people this is in addition to the Columbians, Mexicans and Peruvians who founded several key cities in the Philippines: i.e Puerto Princessa City or Cavite City or Zamboanga City. Those who hate us or persecute us for simply claiming that we have European descent should be schooled thoroughly. This is merely an extension of America's propaganda to de-latinize the Philippines. How can we deny our ancestors their right to be recognized? Anyway, people shouldn'tjudge anyone just by looking at the surface since people are wonderful things that is worth more than just physical appearance.

I am proud of all my ancestors and ethnicities... because if not to all of them we will not exist in this world. I acknowledge every single one of them, I still have to explore our own family genealogy from both side including the grandmothers. It was easy to trace my mother's paternal lineage because the documents was available including some photos kept by some of our relatives and because it's not also a very common family name 'Roux', so if you encountered a Filipino with 's' or with 'x' last letter from his/her surname but look more like a typical Filipino then :) he/she is probably related to me.

[simple]

Glad to hear Katarina Rodriguez didn't say 'I'm Filipino Spanish Chinese lol' thing that I heard before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBjUuPS05L4
^She's Filipino born in the US

http://31.media.tumblr.com/4632e83989f251623fb36c355355de78/tumblr_n2hd3jj3US1rkeuxvo1_1280.jpg

[zhaoyun]

Glad to hear Katarina Rodriguez didn't say 'I'm Filipino Spanish Chinese lol' thing that I heard before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBjUuPS05L4
^She's Filipino born in the US

http://31.media.tumblr.com/4632e83989f251623fb36c355355de78/tumblr_n2hd3jj3US1rkeuxvo1_1280.jpg

She's obviously half-White, but probably grew up in the Philippines. Her accent is very thick.

[simple]

She's obviously half-White, but probably grew up in the Philippines. Her accent is very thick.

She belongs to a Mestizo family that's why but both Filipino parents
lol people mixed them with those half Filipinos (Meaning 1 parent is not a native born in the Philippines)

http://www.spot.ph/files/2014/01/1389601122-katarina.jpg

Because some of Filipino Mestizos marry each other
http://contents.pep.ph/images2/gallery/31-March-2008-14c2b1362a/03b17117d.jpg

http://www.abante.com.ph/issue/apr0511/pictures/05-lotlot-monching-kids.jpg

^Like the Children of Lotlot de Leon and Christopher Gutierrez

[Linet]

I read and read this thread http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/read/t9503.gif and i try to understand what is it about :icon_ask: ...do we try to define the origines of Phillipine people? :chin:

[simple]

I read and read this thread http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/read/t9503.gif and i try to understand what is it about :icon_ask: ...do we try to define the origines of Phillipine people? :chin:

Lol actually first it was from religion lol then it came to genetics lol .....

[Vesuvian Sky]

I read and read this thread http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/read/t9503.gif and i try to understand what is it about :icon_ask: ...do we try to define the origines of Phillipine people? :chin:

Actually it was primarily supposed to be about why Fillipinos are more flirty/sexual then some other ethnicities but others wanted to discuss taxonomy and identity issues. Apparently there's much to discuss about Filipino people on anthro forums.

In the meantime, it appears the Austroloid component is winning in the poll as the factor causing horniness among the Fillipino people.

[Selurong]

She's obviously half-White, but probably grew up in the Philippines. Her accent is very thick.

I also tend to say I am only Filipino if you encounter me in real life.
I only cite my European ancestry to counter the 3.6% myth so common in all anthro forums.

Also, having white features doesn't mean you are half-white.

This woman is only 1/4rth Spanish (Her name is Kristine Hermosa)
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/cdceee33d67b7907cf68f6fe80d91ab41319153281_full.pn g

And she has the same Hazel eye color as my sister (Who is only 1/8th Basque-Portuguese [Motherside] and the rest, long long diluted Mexican ancestry[Fatherside]) white features doesn't necessarily mean one is half-white.

But generally, it does mean that you are half-white, but when one white person is wed to a Filipino, the diluted European ancestry, kicks in in the Filipino spouse, and the recessive features have a higher chance of expression vis-a-vis a mate who doesn't have any European introgression at all.

[Selurong]

Actually it was primarily supposed to be about why Fillipinos are more flirty/sexual then some other ethnicities but others wanted to discuss taxonomy and identity issues. Apparently there's much to discuss about Filipino people on anthro forums.

In the meantime, it appears the Austroloid component is winning in the poll as the factor causing horniness among the Fillipino people.

Our talks too should've have stayed true to the topic too, if the damn Mexican traidor person who is now American, RMuller, hadn't hijacked it and claimed we are all Negritos.

Not that there is anything wrong with being Negrito since they are our aboriginal people, our equivalent to American's Native Americans.
But when you talk shit about my people I will prove our honor.

And I find it so weird why everyone voted for the Australoid component being responsible for the horniness. When Australoids (Negritos, Aetas and Ati peoples) who are pure only compose a tiny percentage of the population, if we were horny all the time, it is due to the Latin (Both Latino and Latin from Latin Europe) component.

Which is pure-sex, just look at the Tango or Flamenco.

Our President, President Quezon was an avid Tango dancer, he'll I'm an avid tango dancer.

We are just more chaste than Latin-Americans because we are Asian; in which case, when it comes to sexual mores, we are intermediate between the cold-fish Japanese [which they make-up for by having a highly developed sex-toy industry] and the brazenly whorish Brazilians.

But instead of treating sex as an instrument to gain love, sex is rather the blossoming of love. It's the fruit rather than a stepping stone to it.

But we will still holler, we will flirt and we will seduce.
And then we will leave you hanging in the dust, because we are also chaste.

[Selurong]

I read and read this thread http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/read/t9503.gif and i try to understand what is it about :icon_ask: ...do we try to define the origines of Phillipine people? :chin:

It wasn't at first, before people started to deny we have any Hispanic/Latin heritage (which is preposterous since we were Spain's longest overseas province).
So, a thread originally about our propensity to be flirtatious degenerated into pages wherein idiots said we have zero Hispanic ancestry and are all Negritos.

This, despite the fact that concerning the idiot about talked to at hand, had been living in an area which was 100 years less of a Spanish territory than our area.
If there has been a dilution of the Latin/Latino in the Filipino it is thoroughly the American's fault because ever since they took over in 1900. They never migrated or settled here and even reversed the European migration, expecting Filipinos to go settle in the USA instead of Americans settling in the Philippines.

This is a clear violation of the laws of nature (wherein areas with with higher populations should go migrate to areas with less) and in the 1900s the USA still has a population; 10x larger than the Philippines but how come we ended up with 3.4 Million Americans of Filipino descent and only 200,000 Filipinos of American descent?

We could have been a Brazil; if the glutton America, simply respected the laws of nature and do what normal countries do. Instead, they go bitch how it's our fault that that the European in the Filipino is so diluted when THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

As for us, we did our job FAITHFULLY. Maintained and spread Christianity; converted the Sultanate of Maguindanao from Islam to Christianity, converted the Huangdom of Dong-du from Taoism to Christianity, converted the Rajahnate of Cebu from Hinduism to Christianity and etc. etc. And we had been the longest and most faithful province of the empire despite being surrounded by non-Christians from all sides.

And in appreciation for our services to the King, Pope and the European ideal; all these pathetic refugees from Mexico and America who most probably were thrown out or had escaped from the continent to flee from a crime and thus adopted a new nationality (from among the nations that rebelled against their motherland), think they are better than us because they are more white (More like, more descended from the garbage and traitors who fled Europe).

We did our job, we held the fort...

This, despite the thousands of Sino insurrections, Islamic revolts, Indian uprisings and etc that constantly plaugued us.

While they in their fattened refugee status think themselves superior to the brave sailors or mariners who held the Christian fortress called the Philippines in a sea of infidels.

In addition they wouldn't even fulfill their responsibility (Americunts) [Their own white-man's burden] when they were our colonizer because they reasoned: "It's too hot or too dangerous in the Philippines" and they promptly left after WW2 [After destroying half the city] (And plundering more than half economy after they gave Dictator Marcos, American citizenship and residency in Hawaii) without even settling in the country.

We'll the danger of the weather never prevented Simple's French ancestors or my Portuguese ancestors from manning the fortifications and ships in the various wars here and believe me, our capital city was already leveled by 10 wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila), enough wars to rival Jerusalem's in sheer frequency and if you factor in the floods, fires and earthquakes, that place has been leveled many more time than Jerusalem ever was.

So, in the pecking order, our diluted European blood is at higher value for our sheer faithfulness, despite being surrounded and constantly destroyed, than their fat pathetic refugee ancestry who most probably is culled from the criminals that fled their motherland.

If I ever meet another RMuller again I will humble his racist sorry ass into submission. Better a Filipino mongrel with soldierly and loyalist descent than a refugee Americunt with traitor & motherland-hater descent.

Sorry for the rant. But that guy insulted us first and when he strikes, I will strike back at him with far worse venom.

Fucking refugee coward. That guy has changed allegiance and nationality 3 times. Once, I can understand, or twice, I can reason with, but 3 times?

That's so honorless and is equivalent to a whore drifting from one lover to another.

[Linet]

So what if you dont have Spanish blood? Your value goes with the amount of Spanish blood you have or dont have? :noidea:
...In your case i would be proud being Phillipine and having or not having Spanish blood would only be a subject of Academic discussion and curiosity :lightbul:

[Selurong]

So what if you dont have Spanish blood? Your value goes with the amount of Spanish blood you have or dont have? :noidea:
...In your case i would be proud being Phillipine and having or not having Spanish blood would only be a subject of Academic discussion and curiosity :lightbul:

In all honesty dear. I don't really judge people based on the amount of Spanish blood they have. And most Filipino people don't have a care over who is more Spanish than who. That's why we easily miscagenated with Christianized Chinese, Christianized Amerinds or Christianized Arabs. To us, the church is where our lives revolve around not one's racial percentages. We do admit that race is a thing that exists but it doesn't have much impact anyway. If one is a beautiful Chinese or a smart Indian we would still miscagenate with you.

He'll we made French-Indian Mestizos like Juan Cailles
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Juan_Cailles.jpg

Or African-Americans like David Fagen
http://www.blackpast.org/files/blackpast_images/fagen_david.jpg

As generals or captains of our army. Just as long you proved yourself capable.

And just to prove how we don't care over what race one possesses or how the caste-system is furthest from our minds.
Let me cite a study in the website: http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml

Over how we are the Asian ancestry most like to marry African, Latino or Multi-racial women. Ethnicities, the Nazis here would probably won't even touch with a ten-foot pole.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/saludong/Asianraces_zpsbfd97946.png (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/saludong/media/Asianraces_zpsbfd97946.png.html)

In contrast, Whites will most likely marry Koreans and Japanese in the same poll. This works to our advantage since those half-Asians and half-Europeans end up looking like Filipinos and we will eventually absorb them.

And inter-marriage with the dirty blacks, latinos or multi-racials hasn't decreased our IQ or lowered our income one bit.
http://familyinequality.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/pew-asian-income.jpg

(In fact we still have a higher graduation rate, longer life-span and higher average income than the refugee white bigots who look down on us)

IDC about being part Iberian in day to day life. I just state the fact that I have Portuguese ancestry or distant Mexican ancestry, in here to refute the people who still cling on to the 3.6% myth, that only 3.6% of all Filipinos have any European descent.

Which is obviously wrong by all counts and rules of logic and historical analysis.

[Linet]

Ok i agree, so why do you get angry with the Mexicans and the other Latin Americans http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/connie/connie_mexican.gif?
....As i see, not a single Spaniard cared enough to answer to this thread, that should mean something to you.

[Selurong]

Ok i agree, so why do you get angry with the Mexicans and the other Latin Americans http://www.en.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/connie/connie_mexican.gif?
....As i see, not a single Spaniard cared enough to answer to this thread, that should mean something to you.

I don't get angry with all of them, just the fuck called RMuller and some random bigot here and there. For the most part, I like Mexicans and among the Latin-Americans, I find the Colombians and Chileans the most sensitive and I can jive with them. I love the Colombians especially; because they sent a contingent of soldiers here in the 18th century and helped grabbed Palawan (Paragua) away from the Sultanate of Sulu and had been loyal friends ever since ,and they're not as afflicted by casta mentality and have loud-mouths like twice-traitor RMuller.

Most Mexicans are good. I just hate the bigoted Mexicans but I don't hate the majority of the Mexican population who are mostly sane individuals.

[Dictator]

Saludong, Half-Koreans/Japaneses Half-Europeans don't look like Filipinos.

[Linet]

Saludong, Half-Koreans/Japaneses Half-Europeans don't look like Filipinos.

...well why should they look like Phillipinos? :icon_ask:

[Selurong]

Saludong, Half-Koreans/Japaneses Half-Europeans don't look like Filipinos.

I know what they look like because I am descended from a Japanese convert to Christianity myself. I also know how they look like because among Filipinos, many also have Japanese descent and some have mixed with Portuguese and Spanish missionaries and soldiers.

The largest contingent of Japanese converts to Christianity being the retinue of Dom Justo Takayama who brought over his entire feudal territory to go live in Manila. He died in Manila too.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Sgiustusukon.jpg

Dom Justo Takayama

Born: c. 1552 Haibara, Nara, Japan

Died: February 4, 1615 (aged 62–63) Manila, Spanish East Indies

Honored in Roman Catholic Church; Feast 3 February


The Korean-European look however, not so much. Too much Korean plastic surgery to discern.

[Selurong]

...well why should they look like Phillipinos? :icon_ask:

^

[Dictator]

...well why should they look like Phillipinos? :icon_ask:

Dunno but he said:


In contrast, Whites will most likely marry Koreans and Japanese in the same poll. This works to our advantage since those half-Asians and half-Europeans end up looking like Filipinos and we will eventually absorb them.

[simple]

I know what they look like because I am descended from a Japanese convert to Christianity myself. I also know how they look like because among Filipinos, many also have Japanese descent and some have mixed with Portuguese and Spanish missionaries and soldiers.

The largest contingent of Japanese converts to Christianity being the retinue of Dom Justo Takayama who brought over his entire feudal territory to go live in Manila. He died in Manila too.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Sgiustusukon.jpg

Dom Justo Takayama

Born: c. 1552 Haibara, Nara, Japan

Died: February 4, 1615 (aged 62–63) Manila, Spanish East Indies

Honored in Roman Catholic Church; Feast 3 February


The Korean-European look however, not so much. Too much Korean plastic surgery to discern.

This monument is located in Paco Manila, 'Plaza Dilao'

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7170/6465521001_0eb6663bb3_z.jpg



The Spanish Philippines offered their assistance in overthrowing the Japanese government by an invasion to protect Japanese Catholics. However, Justo declined to participate and he opposed the plan but he died of illness just 40 days afterwards.[1]

At that time, the Spaniards referred to the Paco Area as the "Yellow Plaza" because of the more than 3,000 Japanese who resided there. Plaza Dilao is the last vestige of the old town of Paco.[1]

There is a statue of Dom Justo Takayama in Plaza Dilao, Manila. Justo appears in the statue wearing warrior robes with his hair tied in a knot. He is carrying a sword that is pointed downward, upon which hangs a figure of a crucified Jesus.[1]

When he died in 1615, the Spanish government interred him with a Christian burial with full military honors as a Daimyo. He is the first Daimyo to be buried in Philippine soil.[1][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Justo_Takayama

Now, I know why there was a folk dance regarding Plaza Dilao that looks like a Japanese tune.. from the Bayanihan folk dances. It originated in Paco Manila.

[Selurong]

Dunno but he said:

It's because we already absorbed the half-whites and half-japanese or half-whites and half-chinese when we started to spread Christianity from Manila to Nagasaki.

Those new breed of half-europeans and half-east asians will just be absorbed by filipinos because there are already many half-europeans and half-east asians among us and they tend to go marry their own kind (according to studies of Eurasian intermarriage rate) and a fair amount of Filipinos also already have Chinese-Korean-Japanese ancestry and French-Portuguese-Spanish ancestry.

That's my humble explanation concerning this matter. We'll now...
I'm going to sleep, good night king Carlos and good night Linet.

I wish we could go back to the topic and talk about being flirty or horny.

[Linet]

Dunno but he said:

Asians look like Asians in general, on that i agree :nod:
But Phillipinos are alot darker than Japanese and Chinese people, so i dont think that would work out like that :chin:

[Selurong]

This monument is located in Paco Manila, 'Plaza Dilao'

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7170/6465521001_0eb6663bb3_z.jpg




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Justo_Takayama

That's not the only place they settled. The entire city of Davao was once called New Tokyo or Little Tokyo, therein they lived in harmony with the Muslims there...

Source: http://davaotoday.com/main/2005/11/21/how-davao-became-little-tokyo/

But when World War 2 came about and they joined the Japanese Empire...

After we gained independence in World War 2: we kicked out those who were disloyal to us (although we let those who were loyal stay).

Anyway, the many who were proven traitors were kicked out and those honorless garbage now moved to Brazil which currently has the largest overseas Japanese community (Since we drove out the Japanese who sided against us and they found their way there)

I don't care about those kind of Japanese even though I'm related to them. My ancestor came from the earlier wave of Japanese converts to Christianity, not from the later wave who are vanguards of imperialism. But I really care deeply for the Japanese homeland and I wish they wouldn't commit mass suicide through their low birth-rates.

[simple]

Asians look like Asians in general, on that i agree :nod:
But Phillipinos are alot darker than Japanese and Chinese people, so i dont think that would work out like that :chin:

I guess it has something to do being our country is also near the equator and it's not just because we have negritos

[Selurong]

Anybody would grow darker near the equator. Even Northern Europeans would grow a tan if they live near the equator. Tan-ness is environmental, not genetic. (We'll most of the time)

[Dictator]

Anybody would grow darker near the equator. Even Northern Europeans would grow a tan if they live near the equator. Tan-ness is environmental, not genetic. (We'll most of the time)

Not everyone can tan. The ability to tan is genetic.

[Selurong]

Not everyone can tan. The ability to tan is genetic.

We'll that's partially true. Out of the Europeans it is only mostly the Mediterraneans who can tan. Mediterraneans [Can tan alot and also adjust their skin to be light in cold weather too] that's why Meds have a higher range of tolerance to various climates hence, you can find Mediterraneans from the tip of Argentina which is already an arctic zone to the deserts of Mexico. [And most of the European descended people here are Mediterranean European, not Nordic European anyway so they blend right in]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy83yKNoa7SnBmmgwEdufuwgBdsUVlk zFYkgNb9tQ7ovtSlZaegg

Whereas, Nords only live in temperate areas and don't have the tolerance and resilience to live in Tropical or Equatorial areas.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRF0Ul7OAfYwOYjCjI7LfouPSwejegN bgQ_HhqR-Dx90hCu1iwVg

Don't listen to them when they discriminate against you. Meds can live anywhere. Nords can only live in select places.
Show them this fact, the next time they do a Nordic discrimination spree against your Mediterranean descent.

[LOCOMANDANTE]

Filipinos are very very dumb, but they have almost no evil, they are truly good persons and don't hurt anyone. I like them.

[Selurong]

Filipinos are very very dumb, but they have almost no evil, they are truly good persons and don't hurt anyone. I like them.

Lul what?

I like the lack-of-evil part but I disagree with the dumb part.

[simple]

Asians look like Asians in general, on that i agree :nod:
But Phillipinos are alot darker than Japanese and Chinese people, so i dont think that would work out like that :chin:

Japanese are also diverse, Some Ainu looks different to the other Japanese

[Graus]

We'll that's partially true. Out of the Europeans it is only mostly the Mediterraneans who can tan. Mediterraneans [Can tan alot and also adjust their skin to be light in cold weather too] that's why Meds have a higher range of tolerance to various climates hence, you can find Mediterranean from the tip of Argentina which is already an arctic zone to the deserts of Mexico. [And most of the European descended people here are Mediterranean European, not Nordic European]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy83yKNoa7SnBmmgwEdufuwgBdsUVlk zFYkgNb9tQ7ovtSlZaegg

Whereas, Nords only live in temperate areas and don't have the tolerance and resilience to live in Tropical or Equatorial areas.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRF0Ul7OAfYwOYjCjI7LfouPSwejegN bgQ_HhqR-Dx90hCu1iwVg

Don't listen to them when they discriminate against you. Meds can live anywhere. Nords can only live in select places.
Show them this fact, the next time they do a Nordic discrimination spree against your Mediterranean descent.

Has probably more to do with the lack of tolerance for Indio mongrels, low living standards, med languages and the fact those hell holes used to be Spanish/Portuguese colonies, just saying....

[Isleño]

We'll that's partially true. Out of the Europeans it is only mostly the Mediterraneans who can tan. Mediterraneans [Can tan alot and also adjust their skin to be light in cold weather too] that's why Meds have a higher range of tolerance to various climates hence, you can find Mediterraneans from the tip of Argentina which is already an arctic zone to the deserts of Mexico. [And most of the European descended people here are Mediterranean European, not Nordic European anyway so they blend right in]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy83yKNoa7SnBmmgwEdufuwgBdsUVlk zFYkgNb9tQ7ovtSlZaegg

Whereas, Nords only live in temperate areas and don't have the tolerance and resilience to live in Tropical or Equatorial areas.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRF0Ul7OAfYwOYjCjI7LfouPSwejegN bgQ_HhqR-Dx90hCu1iwVg

Don't listen to them when they discriminate against you. Meds can live anywhere. Nords can only live in select places.
Show them this fact, the next time they do a Nordic discrimination spree against your Mediterranean descent.

My friend, most Nords and Meds can live interchangeably in the same climates. However, Meds do have a higher tolerance to sunnier areas, but this doesn't mean Nords can't live in sunny climates. Take for instance, your map of places Meds and Nords live outside of Europe. Australia has both arid Mediterranean type climate and tropical zones as well as temperate zones. Actually most of the island is not temperate, and Northern Europeans predominate. Look at the United States, the southern half of it is sub-tropical with temperatures reaching the 90's-100's in the summer. The western portion has arid climates like in the Mediterranean. The midwest and the northeast are more of a cooler climate. In the USA, Northern Europeans predominate. So it's not really that one can live in one climate and the other can't, they both can live in the same climate. Just Meds have a slightly higher tolerance to sunlight and Nords have a better tolerance to cold. But again, they can live in the same environments. Look at Latin America, the southern part of South America has temperate zones. The very tip of South America can get quite cold during the winter.

As for who in Europe can tan, well most Europeans have no problem tanning. It's only some of the really fair types you see like "gingers" of the red haired type that have this problem. Most all Europeans can tan. Meds have an easier time tanning, this is due to evolution in a warmer climate. But Northern Europeans are not defective, they can also tan. Central Europeans tan almost as easily as Meds.

Thanks for reading.

[Selurong]

Has probably more to do with the lack of tolerance for Indio mongrels, low living standards, med languages and the fact those hell holes used to be Spanish/Portuguese colonies, just saying....

You are a mongrel yourself part-neanderthal and part anatomically modern human. We'll shouldn't the Basques kick you out of Europe then since you are just a pathetic Indo-European mongrel whereas they are a pure pre-IndoEuropean ethnicity.

Just saying.

[Selurong]

My friend, most Nords and Meds can live interchangeably in the same climates. However, Meds do have a higher tolerance to sunnier areas, but this doesn't mean Nords can't live in sunny climates. Take for instance, your map of places Meds and Nords live outside of Europe. Australia has both arid Mediterranean type climate and tropical zones as well as temperate zones. Actually most of the island is not temperate, and Northern Europeans predominate. Look at the United States, the southern half of it is sub-tropical with temperatures reaching the 90's-100's in the summer. The western portion has arid climates like in the Mediterranean. The midwest and the northeast are more of a cooler climate. In the USA, Northern Europeans predominate. So it's not really that one can live in one climate and the other can't, they both can live in the same climate. Just Meds have a slightly higher tolerance to sunlight and Nords have a better tolerance to cold. But again, they can live in the same environments. Look at Latin America, the southern part of South America has temperate zones. The very tip of South America can get quite cold during the winter.

As for who in Europe can tan, well most Europeans have no problem tanning. It's only some of the really fair types you see like "gingers" of the red haired type that have this problem. Most all Europeans can tan. Meds have an easier time tanning, this is due to evolution in a warmer climate. But Northern Europeans are not defective, they can also tan. Central Europeans tan almost as easily as Meds.

Thanks for reading.

You are among the reasonable individuals here.

[wvwvw]

I guess it has something to do being our country is also near the equator and it's not just because we have negritos

THe Phillipinos remind me a lot of the Hawaian people. The golden brown skin hue that some Philipinos have is very attractive.

[Isleño]

You are among the reasonable individuals here.

Thank you my friend. Your compliments are well appreciated :)

[Linet]

Japanese are also diverse, Some Ainu looks different to the other Japanese

I have heard of this :chin:


You are a mongrel yourself part-neanderthal and part anatomically modern human. We'll shouldn't the Basques kick you out of Europe then since you are just a pathetic Indo-European mongrel whereas they are a pure pre-IndoEuropean ethnicity.

Just saying.

Why would the Basques want to do that? :blink:

[Isleño]

THe Phillipinos remind me a lot of the Hawaian people. The golden brown skin hue that some Philipinos have is very attractive.

Actually the Native Hawaiians and the indigenous peoples of the Philippines are related. Some things in their languages are even related, like some numbers, 1-10 for instance:

Tagalog: isá dalawá tatló ápat limá ánim pitó waló siyám sampu
Ilocano: maysá dua talló uppát limá inném pitó waló siam sangapúlo
Cebuano: usá duhá tuló upat limá unom pitó waló siyám napulu

Hawaiian: kahi lua kolu hā lima ono hiku walu iwa -'umi

[simple]

Actually the Native Hawaiians and the indigenous peoples of the Philippines are related. Some things in their languages are even related, like some numbers, 1-10 for instance:

Tagalog: isá dalawá tatló ápat limá ánim pitó waló siyám sampu
Ilocano: maysá dua talló uppát limá inném pitó waló siam sangapúlo
Cebuano: usá duhá tuló upat limá unom pitó waló siyám napulu

Hawaiian: kahi lua kolu hā lima ono hiku walu iwa -'umi

Yes, It's because of our language branch the Malayo-Polynesian (Austronesian) Language, I think Guam is the closest though from all the Pacific Islander.

Well because historically, Guam was part of Spanish East Indies aside from we were also have the same Language family Austronesian, we were also under the US but they retain though that's why they are still part of United States. Aside from some people look like Filipinos and there's a lot of Filipinos also went there.
http://www.pacificworlds.com/guam/visitors/people.cfm

http://ns.gov.gu/icons/twogirls.jpg

http://www.janesoceania.com/oceania_postcards1/chamorro_people.jpg
Guam Chamorro, their outfit is similar to our Kimona

[Graus]

You are a mongrel yourself part-neanderthal and part anatomically modern human. We'll shouldn't the Basques kick you out of Europe then since you are just a pathetic Indo-European mongrel whereas they are a pure pre-IndoEuropean ethnicity.

Just saying.

The thought a self-hating chink could lecture me about my ancestry and how other Europeans should feel about us is quite hilarious. A word to the wise: no matter how you kiss their asses they will never accept you and rightfully so. How about growing a spine and not humiliating yourself and your fellow gooks anymore? Btw there is no proof of interbreeding which couldnt be explained by a common ancestor, not that I would be ashamed of such an ancestry. Strong physique and huge brains sound more appealing than yellow skin and small dicks, just saying...

[Isleño]

Yes, It's because of our language branch the Malayo-Polynesian (Austronesian) Language

And you are correct!

[Isleño]

The thought a self-hating chink could lecture me about my ancestry and how other Europeans should feel about us is quite hilarious. A word to the wise: no matter how you kiss their asses they will never accept you and rightfully so. How about growing a spine and not humiliating yourself and your fellow gooks anymore? Btw there is no proof of interbreeding which couldnt be explained by a common ancestor, not that I would be ashamed of such an ancestry. Strong physique and huge brains sound more appealing than yellow skin and small dicks, just saying...

Tone it down guys. No insulting. Respect the rules of the forum.

[Isleño]

Yes, It's because of our language branch the Malayo-Polynesian (Austronesian) Language, I think Guam is the closest though from all the Pacific Islander.

Well because historically, Guam was part of Spanish East Indies aside from we were also have the same Language family Austronesian, we were also under the US but they retain though that's why they are still part of United States.

http://ns.gov.gu/icons/twogirls.jpg
Guam Chamorro, their outfit is similar to our Kimona

I used to live in Hawaii, I knew some girls from Guam there. They would tell me words in Chamorro and I would tell them words in Spanish.

[clete27]

Filipinos are very very dumb, but they have almost no evil, they are truly good persons and don't hurt anyone. I like them.

Yes, I agree. Low IQ, but low aggression. Thats why it's a poor country but not very violent (except the Muslims in the South)

[clete27]

I used to live in Hawaii, I knew some girls from Guam there. They would tell me words in Chamorro and I would tell them words in Spanish.

Chamorros are almost the same as Filipinos. They just act like Americanized Filipinos. They have a lot more European (Spanish and American) and Mexican ancestry, that's why many times you can tell the difference between a Chamorro and Filipino, but not always.

[Isleño]

Chamorros are almost the same as Filipinos. They just act like Americanized Filipinos. They have a lot more European (Spanish and American) and Mexican ancestry, that's why many times you can tell the difference between a Chamorro and Filipino, but not always.
When I was in Hawaii, I would meet some people from Guam and some looked like they were Caucasoid influenced and some were more East Asian influenced. Of course there was the indigenous influence too. There are several of them in Hawaii. The girls were pretty.

[clete27]

When I was in Hawaii, I would meet some people from Guam and some looked like they were Caucasoid influenced and some were more East Asian influenced. Of course there was the indigenous influence too. There are several of them in Hawaii. The girls were pretty.

These are some Chamorros I know, and this pic was actually from when they visited Philippines. Everyone spoke Filipino to them wherever they went
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/10403700_10204445814572511_7295578641754963437_n.j pg
But you can almost tell they're not Filipino because non-poor Filipinos dont have those features

One of them girls looks East Asian from far away, but when you see her up close, you can clearly see Caucasian influence, and her family looks Mexican influenced.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/10300633_714636601915202_3523816026892162623_n.jpg

[Selurong]

The thought a self-hating chink could lecture me about my ancestry and how other Europeans should feel about us is quite hilarious. A word to the wise: no matter how you kiss their asses they will never accept you and rightfully so. How about growing a spine and not humiliating yourself and your fellow gooks anymore? Btw there is no proof of interbreeding which couldnt be explained by a common ancestor, not that I would be ashamed of such an ancestry. Strong physique and huge brains sound more appealing than yellow skin and small dicks, just saying...



My paternal y-dna is north African. I have a bigger dick than you. And I am proud of my skin which glistens like gold in the sunlight unlike your skin which is the same color as that of a swine. I have a bigger dick and better skin than you and higher IQ too from the mongoloid mixture. And do you even know the origin of the word gook? Its from the philippine-american war and is the shortened word for gugu. The sound most filipinos make when we take a bath and wash ourseleves twice a day, gugu being the sound of shampoo being rubbed on hair. The invaders found this a weird practice since they barely bathe themselves. Hahaha every insult you hurl at me only makes me stronger, you swine-skin. Go limit yourselves to temperate zones because you obviously can't tolerate tropical ones. BTW Stop being a troll and act like a human being. I find it funy how good hygiene is an insulting racial slur for you goths. Haaay naku, frankly I'm not surprised that you consider people who bathed a racial epithaet, coming from a culture wherein half the time, people speak as if a boulder got lodged in their throats. It speaks volumes mr grgugghf. Thank you and learn to troll less.

[Isleño]

My paternal y-dna is north African. I have bigger dick than you. And I am proud of my skin which glistens like gold in the sunlight unlike your skin which is the same color as that of a swine. I have a bigger dick and better skin than you and higher IQ too from the mongoloid mixture. And do you even know the origin of the word gook? Its from the philippine-american war and is the shortened word for gugu. The sound most filipinos make when we take a bath and wash ourseleves twice a day. The invaders found this a weird practice since they barely bathe themselves. Hahaha every insult you hurl at me only makes me stronger, you swine-skin. Go limit yourselves to temperate zones because yo u obviously can't tolerate tropical ones. Stop being a troll and act like a human being. Thank you.

My friend, I need to ask you to tone down the insulting. I've told him already. The staff is now going to be tightening up on the rules, and insulting is one of them. There will be actions taken against those that do not wish to respect the forum rules. But you are my friend and I don't want to see that happen to you. So this is just a reminder to respect the rules of the forum. Please keep that in mind. Now enjoy the forum :)

[simple]

These are some Chamorros I know, and this pic was actually from when they visited Philippines. Everyone spoke Filipino to them wherever they went
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/10403700_10204445814572511_7295578641754963437_n.j pg
But you can almost tell they're not Filipino because non-poor Filipinos dont have those features

One of them girls looks East Asian from far away, but when you see her up close, you can clearly see Caucasian influence, and her family looks Mexican influenced.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/MsBeezy1/10300633_714636601915202_3523816026892162623_n.jpg

I said some look like Filipinos lol I didn't say that Filipinos look like Chamorro, there are a lot of historical similarity as well as in culture.

http://www.guampedia.com/filipinos-on-guam/