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Germaniac
07-08-2014, 01:06 AM
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0041803
According to this study, Vlad and the House of Basarab, from which he was a member, was of E-V13 or I2a Y-DNA lineage. The E-V13 is more numerous among people of Basarab surname, and also more ancient, therefore there could be a chance of Basarab ruler Vlad Tepes being an E-V13. Basarab I was refered by his contemporaries as a Vlach, and a lot of Vlachs are E-V13, furthermore, even though his father's name is of Cuman origin, were he a descendant of Genghis Khan he'd not make a secret of it. In my opinion, it is fairly probable he was indeed an E-V13.

Stefan_Dusan
07-08-2014, 01:07 AM
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0041803
According to this study, Vlad and the House of Basarab, from which he was a member, was of E-V13 or I2c Y-DNA lineage. The E-V13 is more numerous among people of Basarab surname, and also more ancient, therefore there could be a chance of Basarab ruler Vlad Tepes being an E-V13. Basarab I was refered by his contemporaries as a Vlach, and a lot of Vlachs are E-V13, furthermore, even though his father's name is of Cuman origin, were he a descendant of Genghis Khan he'd not make a secret of it. In my opinion, it is fairly probable he was indeed an E-V13.

lol if he was I2c I could be paternally related to him..... Why do you say I2c again? The oldest European haplogroup but also the rarest?

Germaniac
07-08-2014, 01:17 AM
lol if he was I2c I could be paternally related to him..... Why do you say I2c again? The oldest European haplogroup but also the rarest?

Sorry to be a buzz kill, but it's actually I2a. I've mixed things while typing.

Stefan_Dusan
07-08-2014, 01:22 AM
Sorry to be a buzz kill, but it's actually I2a. I've mixed things while typing.

Ok, then basically Bassarab family is compromised of I2a2b and E-V13, which is two most common haplogroups in Romania. Not very surprising.

Germaniac
07-08-2014, 01:26 AM
Ok, then basically Bassarab family is compromised of I2a2b and E-V13, which is two most common haplogroups in Romania. Not very surprising.

Didn't know E-V13 was so common in Romania, I mean, I knew it's common there, but not one of the most common. Good to know though.

Stefan_Dusan
07-08-2014, 01:27 AM
Didn't know E-V13 was so common in Romania, I mean, I knew it's common there, but not one of the most common. Good to know though.

It's very common all the way to Moldova. It goes I2a2b > E-V13 > R1a1a > miscellaneous

Germaniac
07-08-2014, 02:03 AM
I fond it very interesting one of the greatest European monarchs belongs to a haplogroup rare in Europe.

Black Wolf
07-08-2014, 02:18 AM
I read somewhere before that J2b was also found among the Basarabs.

Germaniac
07-08-2014, 02:22 AM
I read somewhere before that J2b was also found among the Basarabs.

Yeah, J2b and R1a, however, the major haplogroup is E-V13 followed by I2a.

Black Wolf
07-08-2014, 02:24 AM
Yeah, J2b and R1a, however, the major haplogroup is E-V13 followed by I2a.

Truly he could have been part of any Y-DNA haplogroup but yes if E-V13 is the most numerous among individuals of the Basarab name then it seems quite likely he was E-V13.

Zmey Gorynych
12-16-2014, 01:07 PM
and there goes the myth of him being of cuman origin ... I bet he was I2a like any good kebab remover :)


It's very common all the way to Moldova. It goes I2a2b > E-V13 > R1a1a > miscellaneous
I think it's actually I2a (first by a mile) > R1a > R1b > E-V13.

wvwvw
12-16-2014, 01:13 PM
Didn't know E-V13 was so common in Romania, I mean, I knew it's common there, but not one of the most common. Good to know though.

I wonder if it's a coincidence that Greeks and Cypriots score Romania in their top countries of ancestry, or the fact that Romania has more Greek-like and Cyprus-like admixture than any other country in Europe.

Murri
09-19-2016, 02:26 PM
I2a Romanians are just lowland assimiliated Slavs, true highland Vlachs are EV-13 and J2, 40% of Romanians descend from true Vlachs

Zmey Gorynych
09-20-2016, 01:02 PM
and the al baboons flood yet another vlad thread like the rats that they are

Murri
09-20-2016, 02:25 PM
Rats??? I2a lowlanding butthurt slav, did I touch a nerve?

Norka
09-20-2016, 02:31 PM
He was clearly a E-V13 mountain nigga beast like me :)

Grishnack
09-20-2016, 02:41 PM
I2a Romanians are just lowland assimiliated Slavs, true highland Vlachs are EV-13 and J2, 40% of Romanians descend from true Vlachs

I2a isn't slavic, retard.

Coastal Elite
01-08-2019, 12:53 AM
E-V13 Vlachs. It don't get any better!

Tongio
03-19-2022, 04:32 AM
If the man was Evil 13, god does have a sense of humour.

Roy
03-20-2022, 07:53 PM
E-V13 Vlachs. It don't get any better!

E-V13 here. Maybe it explains why I am fascinated with Dracula.

Bart0s
11-05-2022, 06:26 AM
Yes it is possible and that some E-V13 spread with Vlachs. Viminacium and other Roman sites in Serbia are filled with E-V13.