Mal'ta man closest to Central Asians

[Proto-Shaman]

"Similarly, we find autosomal evidence that MA-1 is basal to modern-day western Eurasians and genetically closely related to modern-day Native Americans, with no close affinity to east Asians."

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=48934&d=1404850415
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=48932&d=1404850168

[Proto-Shaman]

some interpretations?

[Herr Abubu]

some interpretations?

Native Americans are Turanix!

[Proto-Shaman]

Native Americans are Turanix!
Mal'ta is the ancestor of most Europeans, Indians, and many north Native Americans.

[Herr Abubu]

Mal'ta is the ancestor of most Europeans, Indians, and Native Americans.

All Turanix ! ! !

[Proto-Shaman]

All Turanix ! ! !
but why?

[Kale]

Because

48944

[Herr Abubu]

Because

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This can't just be convergent evolution. This proves that Turanix are the ancestors of the Dinosauria clade.

[Proto-Shaman]

what an enlightenment.

[Proto-Shaman]

Because

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So TIGERZZZ (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?12030-TIGERZZZ) was your sockpuppet?

[KidMulat]

How much do you think Denisovans dna pulls them closer or farther from other groups?

[Proto-Shaman]

How much do you think Denisovans dna pulls them closer or farther from other groups?
I don't really know. Does this chart explain that?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Spread_and_evolution_of_Denisovans.jpg

[Kale]

So TIGERZZZ (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?12030-TIGERZZZ) was your sockpuppet?

If I say I'm not you wouldn't believe me. You wouldn't believe me no matter what answer I give, so I guess perhaps I should illustrate my answer.

http://www.paintacquaint.com/g/8035.jpg

[Ctwentysevenj]

What is Malta man, do you Mean people from Malta?

[Kale]

What is Malta man, do you Mean people from Malta?

We mean this.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/11/ancient-dna-from-upper-paleolithic-lake.html

[Proto-Shaman]

Before 24,000 years ago, the ancestors of Native Americans and the ancestors of today's East Asians split into distinct groups. The Mal'ta child represents a population of Native American ancestors who moved into Siberia, probably from Europe or west Asia. Then, sometime after the Mal'ta boy died, this population mixed with East Asians. The new, admixed population eventually made its way to the Americas. Exactly when and where the admixture happened is not clear, Willerslev said. But the deep roots in Europe or west Asia could help explain features of some Paleoamerican skeletons and of Native American DNA today. "The west Eurasian [genetic] signatures that we very often find in today's Native Americans don't all come from postcolonial admixture," Willerslev said in his talk. "Some of them are ancient."
http://eurogenes.blogspot.de/2013/10/surprising-adna-results-from.html

[Proto-Shaman]

Relationship to American Indians and Europeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal'ta-Buret'_culture#Relationship_to_American_Indians_an d_Europeans)
Research published in 2014 suggests that the Mal'ta people or a Mal'ta like people were important genetic contributors to the American Indians,Europeans, and South Asians but did not contribute to and was not related to East Eurasians, Mal'ta had a type of R* y-dna that diverged before the hg R1 and R2 split and a unresolved clade of haplogroup U mtdna. Between 14 and 38 percent of American Indian ancestry may originate from gene flow from the Mal'ta Buret people, which is essensially western Eurasian in a modern sense, while the other geneflow in the Native Americans appears to have an Eastern Eurasian origin.

The genetic findings at Mal'ta may also help account for the Caucasian chacteristics of Kennewick Man, a 9,000 year old skeleton discovered in the state of Washington. Mal'ta suggests that the Upper Paleolithic population of western Eurasia may have spread into Siberia and contributed to the physical characteristics of some early American Indians who were different from the East Asians who contributed most of the genetic heritage of the indigenous people of the Americas.
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Nearly all Native Americans from North and South America were equally related to the Mal'ta child, indicating that he represented very deep Native American roots.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6157/409.full

[Proto-Shaman]

http://siberiantimes.com/PICTURES/SCIENCE/Malta-boy/Beringia%20credit%20G%20Grullon%20Science.jpg
Willerslev and his team propose that earlier than 24,000 years ago 'the ancestors of Native Americans and the ancestors of today's East Asians split into distinct groups.

'The Mal'ta child represents a population of Native American ancestors who moved into Siberia, probably from Europe or west Asia. Then, sometime after the Mal'ta boy died, this population mixed with East Asians. The new, admixed population eventually made its way to the Americas.'

The timing is uncertain but 'the deep roots in Europe or west Asia could help explain features of some Paleoamerican skeletons and of Native American DNA today'. Some of the traces of Eurasian genetic signatures in modern Native Americans do not come from colonial times when incoming Europeans mixed with the indigenous population.

http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/24000-year-old-boy-from-lake-baikal-is-scientific-sensation/

[Prisoner Of Ice]

"Similarly, we find autosomal evidence that MA-1 is basal to modern-day western Eurasians and genetically closely related to modern-day Native Americans, with no close affinity to east Asians."

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=48934&d=1404850415
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=48932&d=1404850168

Completely untrue. Either you misread them or they don't know how to read a PCA chart.

There's no similarity between central asians and M'alta boy. Malta boy is european pulled more towars native americans. Central asians are europeans pulled more towards east asians and 0% towards native americans.

The mistake here is to think left and right are what's important when it's only comparison to other populations that matters, ie how you got pulled left or right or up and down.

[Proto-Shaman]

Completely untrue. Either you misread them or they don't know how to read a PCA chart.

There's no similarity between central asians and M'alta boy. Malta boy is european pulled more towars native americans. Central asians are europeans pulled more towards east asians and 0% towards native americans.

The mistake here is to think left and right are what's important when it's only comparison to other populations that matters, ie how you got pulled left or right or up and down.
Yet he apparently descended not from East Asians, but from people who had lived in Europe or western Asia. The finding suggests that about a third of the ancestry of today's Native Americans can be traced to "western Eurasia," with the other two-thirds coming from eastern Asia.