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Mortimer
07-09-2014, 12:47 AM
Light skin color is predicted by more stringent conditions: G/G at rs12913832, plus G/G at rs16891982, and A/A at rs1426654. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694299/

I am AA at rs12913832, GG at rs16891982, AG at rs1426654

Mark
07-09-2014, 12:55 AM
rs12913832 - GG

rs16891982 - CG

rs1426654 - AA

cally
07-09-2014, 01:00 AM
rs12913832 GG

rs16891982 GG

rs1426654 AA

Thor2009
07-09-2014, 01:06 AM
rs12913832 GG
rs16891982 GG
rs1426654 AA

yeah makes sense

Iloko
07-09-2014, 01:19 AM
rs12913832 AA
rs16891982 CG
rs1426654 GG

Mortimer
07-09-2014, 01:26 AM
rs12913832 - GG

rs16891982 - CG

rs1426654 - AA

the GG and AA in first and third means light skinned, the CG i dont know exactly looks like "mixed" C and G, it should be GG, maybe pointing towards a more medium skin colour

Black Wolf
07-09-2014, 01:51 AM
rs12913832: AG
rs16891982: GG
rs1426654: AA

Am I brown then according to this lol? Olive?

wvwvw
07-09-2014, 03:15 AM
How do I find this?

Mortimer
07-09-2014, 03:16 AM
How do I find this?

did you do 23andme, if so go to your raw data and browse the snps

Stefan_Dusan
07-09-2014, 03:17 AM
How do I find these SNPs? On 23andMe somehow?

Mortimer
07-09-2014, 03:17 AM
How do I find these SNPs? On 23andMe somehow?

yes on 23andme, go to "browse raw data" then copy and paste the snp and you will see what you are

Stefan_Dusan
07-09-2014, 03:20 AM
Ok

rs12913832 - AG
rs16891982 - GG
rs1426654 - AA

wvwvw
07-09-2014, 03:35 AM
HERC2 28365618 rs12913832 A or G AA
SLC45A2 33951693 rs16891982 C or G GG
SLC24A5 48426484 rs1426654 A or G AA

portusaus
07-09-2014, 04:41 AM
rs12913832 AG
rs16891982 CG
rs1426654 AA

Mortimer
07-09-2014, 04:53 AM
SLC24A5 48426484 rs1426654 A or G AA

this is the most major snp associated with light skin mutation in europeans, west asians and some southasians etc.

it is since longer known, and has something to do with Vitamin D. East Asians have mostly GG and their light skin is convergent evolution east asian light skin genes are absent in europeans and european light skin genes are absent in east asians. Africans also have GG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLC24A5

it is present in Europeans 98.7-100% while 93-100% in East Asians, Indigenous Americans and African Americans. It is a ancestral informative marker. But also in most of middle easterners and many southasians. So it could be pan-caucasoid.

sonofthedutch
07-09-2014, 05:48 AM
GG
GG
AA

Thanks for the info

Catkin
07-09-2014, 06:07 AM
GG
GG
AA

Same for both my parents too. Interesting, thanks.

Artek
07-09-2014, 06:17 AM
Anyone has found those SNP's in the FTDNA raw data?

portusaus
07-09-2014, 06:34 AM
Anyone has found those SNP's in the FTDNA raw data?

Yeah, search 'em.

Gauthier
07-09-2014, 07:01 AM
My results:

rs12913832 - AA

(A;A) 0 brown eye color, 80% of the time
(A;G) brown eye color
(G;G) 2 blue eye color, 99% of the time


rs16891982 - CG

(C;C) 0 generally non-European, but if European, 7x more likely to have black hair
(C;G) 2 if European, 7x more likely to have black hair
(G;G) 0 Generally European; Light skin; Possibly an increased risk of melanoma

rs1426654 - AA

(A;A) 2.7 probably light-skinned, European ancestry
(A;G) 2.5 mixed African/European ancestry possible
(G;G) 2.6 probably darker-skinned, Asian or African ancestry

Longbowman
07-09-2014, 11:07 AM
rs12913832 - AA

rs16891982 - GG

rs1426654 - AA

Black Wolf
07-09-2014, 12:13 PM
Ok

rs12913832 - AG
rs16891982 - GG
rs1426654 - AA

We have the exact same results. Must be our distant Armenian/Caucasus ancestry. :p

Black Wolf
07-09-2014, 12:36 PM
the GG and AA in first and third means light skinned, the CG i dont know exactly looks like "mixed" C and G, it should be GG, maybe pointing towards a more medium skin colour

No the GG in the first SNP has to do with eye colour not skin colour. The other two SNPs here code for skin colour.

Black Wolf
07-09-2014, 12:40 PM
My results:

rs12913832 - AA

(A;A) 0 brown eye color, 80% of the time
(A;G) brown eye color
(G;G) 2 blue eye color, 99% of the time


rs16891982 - CG



(C;C) 0 generally non-European, but if European, 7x more likely to have black hair
(C;G) 2 if European, 7x more likely to have black hair
(G;G) 0 Generally European; Light skin; Possibly an increased risk of melanoma

rs1426654 - AA

(A;A) 2.7 probably light-skinned, European ancestry
(A;G) 2.5 mixed African/European ancestry possible
(G;G) 2.6 probably darker-skinned, Asian or African ancestry


Excellent post as you gave the descriptions of the SNPs and what your results mean. As we can see then the first SNP is for eye colour and the other two are for skin colour.

safinator
07-09-2014, 12:45 PM
rs12913832 - AA

rs16891982 - GG

rs1426654 - AA

Altaylardan Tunaya
07-09-2014, 12:47 PM
rs12913832 AG
rs16891982 GG
rs1426654 AA

Mortimer
07-09-2014, 04:17 PM
No the GG in the first SNP has to do with eye colour not skin colour. The other two SNPs here code for skin colour.

maybe it has to do with both, my source says it has to do with skin colour, and maybe it is correlated because people with red hair or light eyes usually have lighter skin and are more skin sensitive to sun. i didnt know the descriptions thanks to bravado for posting them but my genetic study/sources says "light skin colour has more stringent conditions at ....." so it does it has to do with skin colour somehow.

Black Wolf
07-09-2014, 06:26 PM
maybe it has to do with both, my source says it has to do with skin colour, and maybe it is correlated because people with red hair or light eyes usually have lighter skin and are more skin sensitive to sun. i didnt know the descriptions thanks to bravado for posting them but my genetic study/sources says "light skin colour has more stringent conditions at ....." so it does it has to do with skin colour somehow.

Ahhh okay I see.

Jackson
07-09-2014, 10:51 PM
GG
GG
AA

Although my mother and my maternal aunt are:

AG
GG
AA

Which makes sense as both have dark eyes.

Damiăo de Góis
07-09-2014, 10:58 PM
AG
GG
AA

But i'm not brown eyed.

michelle
07-09-2014, 11:01 PM
rs12913832 GG

rs16891982 GG

rs1426654 AA

Black Wolf
07-10-2014, 02:03 AM
AG
GG
AA

But i'm not brown eyed.

What colour are your eyes?

Artek
07-10-2014, 06:35 PM
Yeah, search 'em.

Regardless of the build(so both 36 and 37)?

I can't find it using "search" option in my Excel.

Damiăo de Góis
07-10-2014, 08:00 PM
What colour are your eyes?

It's some shade of green, a mix originated from blue and brown.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/1ilsgz.jpg

Thrax
07-10-2014, 10:12 PM
GG
CG
AA

Kazimiera
07-10-2014, 10:32 PM
GG
GG
AG

gold_fenix
07-10-2014, 10:49 PM
rs12913832 - AA

rs16891982 - GG

rs1426654 - AA

Rugevit
07-10-2014, 10:55 PM
My results


rs12913832 GG
rs16891982 GG
rs1426654 AA

Sehnsucht
07-11-2014, 02:48 AM
rs12913832

Me-GG
Mom-AG
Aunt-GG
Uncle-GG
Maternal Grandmother-AG
Paternal Grandfather-GG

rs16891982


Me-GG
Mom-GG
Aunt-GG
Uncle-GG
Maternal Grandmother-GG
Paternal Grandfather-GG

rs1426654


Me-AA
Mom-AA
Aunt-AA
Uncle-AA
Maternal Grandmother-AA
Paternal Grandfather-AA

Volscian
07-11-2014, 03:54 PM
rs12913832: AG
rs16891982: GG
rs1426654: AA

Cooper
07-17-2014, 07:59 PM
maybe it has to do with both, my source says it has to do with skin colour, and maybe it is correlated because people with red hair or light eyes usually have lighter skin and are more skin sensitive to sun. i didnt know the descriptions thanks to bravado for posting them but my genetic study/sources says "light skin colour has more stringent conditions at ....." so it does it has to do with skin colour somehow.

Yes, rs12913832 is used to predict both eye and skin color. GG at rs12913832 positively correlates with both not brown eyes and not dark skin.

Eye Color Prediction

1. AA at rs12913832 predicts not blue (brown or green).
1(a). If (1) and CC at rs16891982 or GG at rs6119471 or GG at rs12896399 predicts brown.
1(b). If (1) and TT at rs12203592 predicts green.

2. GA at rs12913832 predicts not blue (brown or green).
2(a). If (2) and CC at rs16891982 or GG at rs6119471 predicts brown.
2(b). If (2) and TT at rs12203592 predicts green.

3. GG at rs12913832 predicts not brown (green or blue).
3(a). If (3) and CC at rs16891982 predicts green.
3(b). If (3) and TT at rs12203592 or GG at rs12896399 predicts blue.

I have GG at rs12913832 (3), but GG at rs16891982, CC at rs12203592, and GT at rs12896399, so this method only predicts that I have not brown eyes (green or blue). My eyes are blue.

Skin Color Prediction

1. Any two of the following predicts not dark (light or medium): GG at rs12913832, GG at rs16891982, AA at rs1426654, TT at rs1545397, or AA at rs885479.

2. GG at rs12913832 and GG at rs16891982 and AA at rs1426654 predicts light.

3. GG at rs6119471 predicts not light (medium or dark).

I have GG at rs12913832, GG at rs16891982, and AA at rs1426654, and I also have AA at rs885479. My genotype is thus described by both (1) and (2), so this method predicts that I have light skin (correct). However, genotypes that aren't described by (1), (2), or (3) will be inconclusive. If you have GA or AA at rs12913832, it does not imply not light skin.