Why are we so obsessed with films about the Second World War?

[Elsa]

It's a war that never ends – cinematically speaking, that is. The second world war may have ceased hostilities on 2 September 1945, with the formal surrender of Japan in a ceremony on the USS Missouri, but the film world has never stopped fighting. Nearly 70 years on, the demand for second world war movies appears unstoppable, the supply inexhaustible. Last year saw the release of films about Germany during the war (The Book Thief), British soldiers imprisoned by the Japanese (The Railway Man), and the confrontation between Nazi and Soviet forces at Stalingrad (Stalingrad). By the end of 2014 we will have had films about the race to recover stolen artworks (The Monuments Men), a US tank crew fighting their way across Germany (Fury), a US soldier who survived shipwreck and a PoW camp (Unbroken), a biopic of pioneering codebreaker Alan Turing (The Imitation Game) and a fictional account of the German occupation of France (Suite Française).

Some movie wars – Vietnam, the cold war, Iraq – come and go, but 1939-45 just won't fade away. It's impossible to come up with a definitive list but, for comparison, Wikipedia's list of films about the 1914-18 war totals a little more than 130 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_I_films), while the same source's compilation of second world war films comes to more than 1,300 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_films), and still counting. A decade-by-decade breakdown tells a slightly more nuanced story: there were more than 250 made before the war even finished, reaching over 300 by the end of the 1940s; there were more than 200 each in the 1950s and 60s, before numbers started to decline in the 1970s (130-plus) and 80s (120-plus). The 1990s saw a relatively paltry 86 before a resurgence in the 2000s (180). The 2010s have seen more than 50 so far, suggesting we are on course for a similar figure this decade.

Source: The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/17/why-so-obsessed-second-world-war-films)

[Rudel]

Because it's the alpha and omega of American mythology, and they have Hollywood.

[Geminus]

Because we apparently make good villains.

[Dál Riata]

Because newspapers like the guardian use the Nazis as a boogey man to browbeat western/white nations into accepting every aspect of the liberal/Marxist agenda.

What do you mean you don't want open borders mass immigration?
You're not a Nazi are you?

What do you mean you're not sure about gay marriage?
You're not a Nazi are you?

What do you mean you're not sure that Islam is a religion of peace?
You're not a Nazi are you?

If the holocaust didn't exist, liberals would have to invent it!

[Ianus]

Because the facts are relatively recent and there are again in live people who fought or lived during the war.

[LightHouse89]

I like how the west is portrayed as great heroes.....heroes of what? democracy? Death to Democracy!

[Geminus]

I like how the west is portrayed as great heroes.....heroes of what? democracy? Death to Democracy!

I don't understand how people want to live in repressive systems voluntarily... Sure the democratic systems today have flaws (which are not necessarily inherent) but I can assure you we have it better than people living in totalitarian regimes.

[pinguino]

Because WWII marked the end of European rule of the world, and the beginning of European colonization by the Americans.

[LightHouse89]

Because we apparently make good villains.

ever see ww1 posters...and ww2 demonizing germans.....they made similar posters about irish immigrants. I hate America entirely....death to America!

[LightHouse89]

Because WWII marked the end of European rule of the world, and the beginning of European colonization by the Americans.

exactly...conquering one region of the world at a time to spread free masonry and Anglo-Saxon American values on the world. I hate America, Free Masonry and the culture of America. South Americans should reject Americans....as should Europeans and all other races in the world. America is the whore of Babylon.

[LightHouse89]

I don't understand how people want to live in repressive systems voluntarily... Sure the democratic systems today have flaws (which are not necessarily inherent) but I can assure you we have it better than people living in totalitarian regimes.

The Democratic system is a fallacy....it is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism was better and define how people were oppressed? Are the people of Germany oppressed today under the Weimar 2nd Republic?

[pinguino]

exactly...conquering one region of the world at a time to spread free masonry and Anglo-Saxon American values on the world. I hate America, Free Masonry and the culture of America. South Americans should reject Americans....as should Europeans and all other races in the world. America is the whore of Babylon.

Why should you tell us what to do? South America has had several problems with the U.S. but in the end we understand they are a people a lot smarter than Europeans, Chinese, Russians and others, so they are the lesser evil. Besides, Latin America in general obtained its freedom thanks to British help and Free Masonry!!!

[LightHouse89]

Why should you tell us what to do? South America has had several problems with the U.S. but in the end we understand they are a people a lot smarter than Europeans, Chinese, Russians and others, so they are the lesser evil. Besides, Latin America in general obtained its freedom thanks to British help and Free Masonry!!!

No America is the devil and the devil deserves to die. I attend the regular American flag burning once a year on the fourth of july. I love watching the capitalist flag burn, not to mention Russia, china and Europe are not the evil today....the evil in the world is American politics and political control over the world. Death to Free Masonry and America/UK! for colonizing Germany and Ireland I support the full destruction of the free masonic anglosphere and every evil that since their founding has come to pass. Their control over the world will end. Odin willing the days for America are numbered as they pull back their military over the world.

[pinguino]

Hitler tried and failed. Why an Internet troll like yourself would succeed? Gimme a break.

[LightHouse89]

Hitler tried and failed. Why an Internet troll like yourself would succeed? Gimme a break.

If he failed then why are his beliefs becoming popular. Especially in Ukraine :p I do not troll at all....I am being a sincere poster with my views. What part of my views make me a troll? I will succeed by voting for left wing American policies...hopefully by electing as many left wing idiots as possible. I am pro Illegal immigration because I know if more immigrants came here they will ruin America culturally, economically and will alter the countries direction. This is positive. I hate the anglo-saxon establishment.....I am their enemy....so I support their enemies.

[pinguino]

If he failed then why are his beliefs becoming popular. Especially in Ukraine ...

Why? Because Ukraine is a backwater in Europe. A country that has economic levels approaching Africa, and its people don't know what to do, and that search scapegoats.
Hitler failed. He was an idiot that destroyed Germany and that was the cause of 50 millions of European dead. We shouldn't remember such idiots.

[LightHouse89]

Why? Because Ukraine is a backwater in Europe. A country that has economic levels approaching Africa, and its people don't know what to do, and that search scapegoats.
Hitler failed. He was an idiot that destroyed Germany and that was the cause of 50 millions of European dead. We shouldn't remember such idiots.

Hitler was an idiot but National Socialism is going to be the future. Now if native americans side with their anglo-saxon masters they will be targeted as enemies of the Reich of the Future. I don't care what your people do but if they stand in our way in the future we will recognize them as enemies. By the way Far Right parties are openly supported throughout Europe. They hold more power now and are united under a common cause....something Hitler only dreamed of. Now go kiss the feet of your democratic anglo-saxon masters.

[pinguino]

Hitler was an idiot but National Socialism is going to be the future. Now if native americans side with their anglo-saxon masters they will be targeted as enemies of the Reich of the Future. I don't care what your people do but if they stand in our way in the future we will recognize them as enemies. By the way Far Right parties are openly supported throughout Europe. They hold more power now and are united under a common cause....something Hitler only dreamed of. Now go kiss the feet of your democratic anglo-saxon masters.

You are pathetic. You don't have power. I bet our small arm forces are enough to stop lunatics like you.

[Geminus]

The Democratic system is a fallacy....it is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism was better and define how people were oppressed? Are the people of Germany oppressed today under the Weimar 2nd Republic?

Democracy and socialism are not opposites. In the United States there is an extreme form of capitalism, whereas for example Scandinavian countries or Germany and France are more typical welfare states. Citizens get various benefits like health-care, social insurance and unemployment benefits.

Germans today are a lot less oppressed than in other times of it's history, Germany nowadays is also not really comparable to the Weimar republic. Germans today are a lot more democratic than Germans in the Weimar Republic, and Germany also doesn't have to pay horrendous reparations.

[LightHouse89]

You are pathetic. You don't have power. I bet our small arm forces are enough to stop lunatics like you.

:rolleyes: I live in a country with the highest amount of nuclear arms....we could always use one on chile just to see what the result would be.... Luckily retards like you do not have power. 'pathetic'? lol

[LightHouse89]

Democracy and socialism are not opposites. In the United States there is an extreme form of capitalism, whereas for example Scandinavian countries or Germany and France are more typical welfare states. Citizens get various benefits like health-care, social insurance and unemployment benefits.

Germans today are a lot less oppressed than in other times of it's history, Germany nowadays is also not really comparable to the Weimar republic. Germans today are a lot more democratic than Germans in the Weimar Republic, and Germany also doesn't have to pay horrendous reparations.

I live in the North East of the US which is sort of modelled after europe, it is largely welfare, wonderful and diverse too with many races and people....lots of ugly brown people but not to go off topic. I call Germany a Weimar republic mainly because it was the second time Germany was forced to be a democracy...and set up to be one by America which pillaged it twice.

I believe Germany was far better off under the Prussian government to be honest with you. You would not have the degeneracy you see today there. American garbage culture wouldnt be popular there either. You know what I mean the nigger music or rock music...... But yes extreme capitalism has ruined America...but this happened along time ago and has always been that way. American culture is materialism and extreme greed.

[Fear Fiain]

Source: The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/17/why-so-obsessed-second-world-war-films)

the germanic race must be kept ashamed, lest they get back to doing God's holy work in eradicating communism at the source.
thats why

[LightHouse89]

the germanic race must be kept ashamed, lest they get back to doing God's holy work in eradicating communism at the source.
thats why

Aye! :cool: There is nothing evil about doing that either.

[Linebacker]

They are cool thats why.I like all sorts of things from that time period.

[mikhail]

I don't understand how people want to live in repressive systems voluntarily... Sure the democratic systems today have flaws (which are not necessarily inherent) but I can assure you we have it better than people living in totalitarian regimes.

There are just some places which were times and times better when they were under "totalitarian regimes" than they are now that "democracy" is here. Don't think that democracy is best in all case scenerios.

[LightHouse89]

There are just some places which were times and times better when they were under "totalitarian regimes" than they are now that "democracy" is here. Don't think that democracy is best in all case scenerios.

Very true. Unregulated greed in america has ruined the white working class and the middle class....the banks now own our houses here. All thanks to the system. I hate the lie called 'Democracy'.

[Virtuous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0imBQiT98

[mikhail]

Very true. Unregulated greed in america has ruined the white working class and the middle class....the banks now own our houses here. All thanks to the system. I hate the lie called 'Democracy'.

I agree. There needs to be economical regulation, the way it is in the USA now is "the company owns the government", while in a proper country, it is supposed to be "the government owns the company". Why do so many people want to live in some destructive anarchistic society? Did they give up on life so much that they are now purposefully playing against themselves? I don't get why so many people are like that.

[Drawing-slim]

I love WW2 movies. Always look forward for new ones usually.

[Cleitus]

I don't understand how people want to live in repressive systems voluntarily... Sure the democratic systems today have flaws (which are not necessarily inherent) but I can assure you we have it better than people living in totalitarian regimes.

Democracy is just controlled decadence, and what do you mean with repressiv ? if i say or do something politically incorrect i can get 5 - 10 years jail, isnt that repressiv ? is it ?

[Unome]

Because Europeans secretly love our dominant, warmongering, and militaristic nature.

[Virtuous]

I don't understand how people want to live in repressive systems voluntarily... Sure the democratic systems today have flaws (which are not necessarily inherent) but I can assure you we have it better than people living in totalitarian regimes.

In the game of Democracy, the electorate looks forwards to the next elections, not to the greater good of the Nation, and it is more susceptible to corruption in the process. In a Democracy, power falls upon the economy, the currency, the corporations and all the branches they have. So yes, I'd prefer Monarchy any day.

[pinguino]

:rolleyes: I live in a country with the highest amount of nuclear arms....we could always use one on chile just to see what the result would be.... Luckily retards like you do not have power. 'pathetic'? lol

You live in a country you don't control. If I am not wrong you have the Green Card, and your president is an African. Pathetic dumb.

[Sakis]

You can not accuse Democracy for the corrupted politicians.Look at Germany and France,two democratic countries with many socialistic values and they are doing great.

[LightHouse89]

In the game of Democracy, the electorate looks forwards to the next elections, not to the greater good of the Nation, and it is more susceptible to corruption in the process. In a Democracy, power falls upon the economy, the currency, the corporations and all the branches they have. So yes, I'd prefer Monarchy any day.

Democracy can be summed up by this article....at least American democracy. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/07/the-false-flag-of-libertarianism/

It really has no loyalty to anything and goes against traditional values.....Free Masonic, Protestant secularism. I realize more now than ever about it really. Over the last year I have been in conflict with myself over this...well trying to come up with reasons as to why democracy really does not benefit us at all really. Many 'patriots' here have been questioning our own beliefs and I have come to my conclusion about it and what I realize is a much better solution than Democracy. Socialism failed, now Democracy is failing in the west. What next?

[LightHouse89]

You can not accuse Democracy for the corrupted politicians.Look at Germany and France,two democratic countries with many socialistic values and they are doing great.

Oh yes you can! Do you even understand the core principles of Democracy? read this: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/07/the-false-flag-of-libertarianism/

[LightHouse89]

You live in a country you don't control. If I am not wrong you have the Green Card, and your president is an African. Pathetic dumb.

Yes....but you do not realize it is not my country. The next civil war will arrive here sooner than expected....possibly in my life time. That or white flight and then you brownies can have what is left of it....Seems fare to me. 'Pathetic dumb', nah I think you fit that definition. The difference between you and me is I have the brains to realize when I am being screwed over while people like you vote for policies within a system that has no loyalty to you or could care less about your well being. You are too idiotic to see it. Its okay your a third worlder I do not expect you to understand reality.

[pinguino]

Yes....but you do not realize it is not my country. The next civil war will arrive here sooner than expected....possibly in my life time..

Next civil war? Gimme a break. Is not enough for you to watch the movies of Nazis hung on the gallows pole? Nazis lose. And those that try to awake a defeated nightmare are losers.

[LightHouse89]

I agree. There needs to be economical regulation, the way it is in the USA now is "the company owns the government", while in a proper country, it is supposed to be "the government owns the company". Why do so many people want to live in some destructive anarchistic society? Did they give up on life so much that they are now purposefully playing against themselves? I don't get why so many people are like that.

Mainly because they are too stupid to question the governing authority. It is too late now to reverse the system here though. Even left wing retards here cannot do it. The majority of the modern left wing in the west and east is filed with elitist liberals, rich liberals and Marxists, immigrants, homosexuals and stupid youths who generally have no clue about politics but can be easily seduced by the left wing media channels [news sources]. As a result we have that here vs. the rich, ultra capitalist parties which represent a small fraction of the whole population....their policies are such a turn off the majority of people do not vote for them.

We are left without real leadership...just the Lobbies in Washington. Mind you Lobbyism is a fancy term for bribing, the government openly admits to it and it is how to get politician rich unregulated too....even the IRS cannot tax that money. We live in a country built upon rotten values really. A shame some of my oldest ancestors died for that.... they were probably simple minded or really believed they were fighting for freedom. The truth is the only 'free' people are the minority at the top or the cry baby minorities at the bottom who complain and get what they want. The truth is there is no room in 'America' anymore for white people or any future for them. Another main issue here is that there really is no 'American' identity. It is hard to explain and I wont continue my rant as I would be going off topic. [In private I can discuss this with you though].

[LightHouse89]

Next civil war? Gimme a break. Is not enough for you to watch the movies of Nazis hung on the gallows pole? Nazis lose. And those that try to awake a defeated nightmare are losers.

This time it is fight to the death or just allow everything to be taken from us. I will fight to the death. You are a moron to think people just sit back and tolerate shit from neo-Marxists....You will see another conflict soon. It is irrelevant whether one wins or loses....if an idea is still alive for us we are invincible. Still think giving us martyrdom is unwise? :rolleyes: We don't give breaks this isn't Chile we don't take siestas.

[pinguino]

This time it is fight to the death or just allow everything to be taken from us. I will fight to the death. You are a moron to think people just sit back and tolerate shit from neo-Marxists....You will see another conflict soon. It is irrelevant whether one wins or loses....if an idea is still alive for us we are invincible. Still think giving us martyrdom is unwise? :rolleyes: We don't give breaks this isn't Chile we don't take siestas.

Don't you realize you are in the CIA file, already? I bet you share the gen "gearlose" with Muslims extremists and other idiots of different ideologies. You won't succeed, and if you try you'll be crushed like a cockroach. You don't realize the U.S. is a fascist country already that won't tolerate insurrections.
And indeed, your country isn't Chile. Americans following army orders and using advanced technology can fight anywhere in the world, but back home you don't have the guts and you lack the power to attempt a coup. Back home, you are just domestic lambs.

[Geminus]

Democracy is just controlled decadence, and what do you mean with repressiv ? if i say or do something politically incorrect i can get 5 - 10 years jail, isnt that repressiv ? is it ?

I didn't claim the current system is perfect, but I can just repeat that in totalitarian regimes you could just "vanish" for being against the ruling party.


In the game of Democracy, the electorate looks forwards to the next elections, not to the greater good of the Nation, and it is more susceptible to corruption in the process. In a Democracy, power falls upon the economy, the currency, the corporations and all the branches they have. So yes, I'd prefer Monarchy any day.

Democracies aren't more corrupt than other government forms. If you look at indexes for corruption the Western democratic countries score the lowest values.
Anyway, who decides what the greater good of the nation is? A single person or a single party? Who should this be? And what if he isn't right?
The wealthy people always had great influence on the politics, in former times just as they do right now. I also don't like this, but I don't think that's a specific problem of democracy.

[Dál Riata]

Oh yes you can! Do you even understand the core principles of Democracy? read this: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/07/the-false-flag-of-libertarianism/

Great article! We have a world full of selfish materialistic hedonists who think of nothing but their own physical pleasure. Some want the government to facilitate their pleasure and soften the negative consequences of their poor life choices, these are called liberals, Marxists, leftists, etc. Others are self sufficient and rich enough to want a libertine free for all without any attachments to culture or community. These dominate the right. Neither side has any regard for morals or tradition.

[Heart of Oak]

I say let it die, put it to bed, enoughs enough, make more movies about the future, more talking animals type films, as they bring my world closer to the rest of society....

[StormBringer]

I thought it's just the Russians who are truly obsessed with (making) WWII films nowadays.

[Vlach]

Because newspapers like the guardian use the Nazis as a boogey man to browbeat western/white nations into accepting every aspect of the liberal/Marxist agenda.

What do you mean you don't want open borders mass immigration?
You're not a Nazi are you?

What do you mean you're not sure about gay marriage?
You're not a Nazi are you?

What do you mean you're not sure that Islam is a religion of peace?
You're not a Nazi are you?

If the holocaust didn't exist, liberals would have to invent it!

The post of the year !

[alb0zfinest]

Because they show the best and worst of humanity.