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Fakirbakir
07-22-2014, 12:05 PM
http://www.infogyor.hu/external/uploaded_images/53cca53bbb61a.jpg
http://images.postr.hu/uploads/blogs/547/177754/post_177754_20140720222028.jpg
http://www.vilagszam.hu/hirimages/3822/galeria/riv_0480_1345311792.jpg
http://galeria.nlcafe.hu/files/471/073/000/73471/73471_602668_1000x700.jpg
http://rewrite.origos.hu/s/img/i/1407/20140718magyarorszag-szepe-kikopott-mila-kunis1.jpg?w=200&h=200
http://rewrite.origos.hu/s/img/i/1407/20140720kulcsar-edina.jpg?w=333&h=222

Xanthias
07-22-2014, 12:09 PM
100% hungarian blood, this is how original magyars looked like and why they should be chased away from Europe

MellowD
07-22-2014, 12:16 PM
100% hungarian blood, this is how original magyars looked like and why they should be chased again from Europe

You could chase her in my bed, I wouldn't mind. :lol:

fenix978
07-22-2014, 12:21 PM
100% hungarian blood, this is how original magyars looked like and why they should be chased again from Europe


What if she has some Gipsy or Kuman blood?

MellowD
07-22-2014, 12:23 PM
What if she has some Gipsy or Kuman blood?

She looks too good for a gypsy.

Cern
07-22-2014, 12:25 PM
Not looks typycal hungarian, rather exotic but beautiful.

Fakirbakir
07-22-2014, 12:26 PM
More pics
http://angelopedia.com/newspic/N7XPA2S8MTA1.jpg
http://images.postr.hu/uploads/blogs/547/177754/post_177754_20140720222035.jpg

fenix978
07-22-2014, 12:26 PM
She looks too good for a gypsy.


blah blah blah :bored:

Fakirbakir
07-22-2014, 12:37 PM
Miss Hungary with her mother and grandmother (or great-grandmother?)
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=914060325453

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:16 PM
Nonwhite. :thumb down

Kiyant
07-22-2014, 01:18 PM
A little bit exotic but still very good looking

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:20 PM
A little bit exotic but still very good looking


She looks nice, but not European. Even in Brazil she would not be considered as white.

Kiyant
07-22-2014, 01:21 PM
She looks nice, but not European. Even in Brazil she would not be considered as white.

She is white lol only a bit tanned

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:26 PM
She is white lol only a bit tanned


'OK' than Barack Obama is white also. :cool:

Kiyant
07-22-2014, 01:28 PM
'OK' than Barack Obama is white also. :cool:

Obama has clear Negroid features while this girl is only tanned but still looks European
Or what do you think she looks like? (If you say gypsy then this topic is over since she doesnt look like a gypsy at all)

Cern
07-22-2014, 01:32 PM
She swarthy but i do not think that gypsy.

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:34 PM
Obama has clear Negroid features while this girl is only tanned but still looks European
Or what do you think she looks like? (If you say gypsy then this topic is over since she doesnt look like a gypsy at all)


OK she looks like a Middle Easterner mixed with Turanid.

http://www.fotoklikk.hu/sites/default/files/imagecache/large800/sites/default/files/fotopalyazat/20100115/594-16-00000-00-16124-27912.jpg

http://m.blog.hu/ma/magnezia/image/famouskid/ke2.jpg

Kiyant
07-22-2014, 01:39 PM
OK she looks like a Middle Easterner mixed with Turanid.

http://www.fotoklikk.hu/sites/default/files/imagecache/large800/sites/default/files/fotopalyazat/20100115/594-16-00000-00-16124-27912.jpg

http://www.terra.com.ar/imagenes/originales/269/269120.jpeg

She doesnt look like a middle easterner at all......
Maybe she is a little bit Turanid but nobody would question her "whiteness" in Hungary (I think)

Stears
07-22-2014, 01:43 PM
She swarthy but i do not think that gypsy. There are around 200,000 people in Hungary , whose ancestors immigrated from non-european countries (continents of asia and africa) since the 1970s. More than 70% of them live in Budapest. Many of them mixed with local population. When I was student in BP, there were many weird names in the school, which were not European. So do not believe that everybody is automatically Hungarian European who were born In Budapest. The ethnic change is drastic in Hungary. See the census of 2011, when only 83% of the population considered themselves as Hungarians (92% considered themselves as in 2001 census), and we didn't speak about the enormous waves of Hungarian emigration since 2009, and the enormous proliferation of gypsy population (30 years old gypsy grandmothers are very very common). http://hvg.hu/vilag/20130509_Eltunt_tobb_szazezer_magyar

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:45 PM
She doesnt look like a middle easterner at all......
Maybe she is a little bit Turanid but nobody would question her "whiteness" in Hungary (I think)


I would not question her brownness. :D She would perfectly fit in Turkey, or anywhere in Middle East.

Sergente Alligator
07-22-2014, 01:45 PM
good very woman

Fakirbakir
07-22-2014, 01:50 PM
Actually we will never know how much time she spends in the sunbed.... However, I can see something Mediterranean in her.

My guess is Atlanto-Med/Pontid.

Stears
07-22-2014, 01:53 PM
I would not question her brownness. :D She would perfectly fit in Turkey, or anywhere in Middle East. She looks like an average tanned french woman. Ugly.

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:54 PM
Actually we will never know how much time she spends in the sunbed.... However, I can see something Mediterranean in her.

My guess is Atlanto-Med/Pontid.


Here is not only her color in question, but her facial features.

Stears
07-22-2014, 01:55 PM
Actually we will never know how much time she spends in the sunbed.... However, I can see something Mediterranean in her. My guess is Atlanto-Med/Pontid. http://hvg.hu/vilag/20130509_Eltunt_tobb_szazezer_magyar

fenix978
07-22-2014, 01:56 PM
She looks like an average tanned french woman. Ugly.


Please, stop trolling. :picard1: Your posts are ridiculous.

Lily
07-22-2014, 02:26 PM
She remembers me of Mila Kunis ine one pic.

Stears
07-22-2014, 02:46 PM
Please, stop trolling. :picard1: Your posts are ridiculous. Why? Vast majority of france is WOG.

Antimage
12-14-2014, 05:58 PM
she placed second at miss world competition held in london:thumb001:

Vila
12-16-2014, 12:44 AM
I don't know why some doubt her hungarian roots, it's not like they are swedes or sth. But anyways, she's a beauty :)

Antimage
12-16-2014, 08:04 AM
I don't know why some doubt her hungarian roots, it's not like they are swedes or sth. But anyways, she's a beauty :)

what makes u doubt it?

Coon
12-16-2014, 09:51 AM
Magyarized Romanian.

Antimage
12-16-2014, 10:12 AM
Magyarized Romanian.

magyarized romanians live in romania, and there aren't many. she's from hungary, very unlikely to have romanian ancestry

Hithaeglir
12-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Pontid.

MellowD
12-16-2014, 10:21 AM
Magyarized Romanian.

Yeah, every wog hungarian is a magyariazed romanian.

Vila
12-16-2014, 11:25 AM
what makes u doubt it?

I don't doubt it? She can pass easily in Hungary.

Antimage
12-16-2014, 11:29 AM
I don't doubt it? She can pass easily in Hungary.

sorry, misunderstood you:picard2:

Hungarian_master
12-16-2014, 02:05 PM
Gracile Med

Stears
12-17-2014, 09:02 AM
magyarized romanians live in romania, and there aren't many. she's from hungary, very unlikely to have romanian ancestry

Please do not lie!

Romanian-Serbian descendants (Neo-Cumans) with Hungarian names live in the Kunság region in enormous ratios. Do you want to know it better than ethnograper historians of MTA? Read about it: http://www.sulinet.hu/oroksegtar/data/telepulesek_ertekei/a_kunok_magyarorszagon/pages/007_etnikai_es_vallasi.htm

Further reading:
Tálasi István: Kiskunság. Budapest, 1977. 35-50.
Györffy István: Futás In: Nagykunsági Krónika. Budapest, 1955. 76-106.

Stears
12-17-2014, 09:34 AM
These Neo - Cumans wanted to estabilish an own independent "Cuman" republic in 1918, and they wanted to fight against Hungary. However they were unable to get weapons, therefore their uprising was abandoned.

Stears
12-17-2014, 09:59 AM
Read about the failed neo-Cuman uprising against Hungarians in 1918, and about the "Cuman National Council" here (Use google translator!) http://www.halasitukor.hu/index.php/online-hirek/koezelet/helytoertenet/9681-fueggetlen-kiskunsagot

Borna
12-17-2014, 10:09 AM
Edina is Muslim name from Balkans similar like Edin. She ain't Hungarian.

Corvus
12-17-2014, 10:13 AM
Edina is Muslim name from Balkans similar like Edin. She ain't Hungarian.


Not really: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edina_%28Vorname%29

Proto-Shaman
12-17-2014, 10:16 AM
fenix978, Cumans had and still have light skin not dark. Not for fun they were called KIPCHAKs, which means "light skinned steppe dwellers".

Stears
12-17-2014, 10:18 AM
Edina is Muslim name from Balkans similar like Edin. She ain't Hungarian.

His family name is typically Jewish name in Hungary: Kulcsár. So it is no wonder that many Hungarian Jews celebrated her as their own hero.

Ironically , Blogen became very happy when he "found" a "turanid" his alföldi type on the internet, However the majority of his 99% of his discovered Turanids have Jewish family names.


So it is not wonder that the "Kulcsár" girl has jewish features: (even after her nose-correction)


http://www.hir24.hu/Root/Shared/Pictures/2014/11/23/Kulcsar-Edina(650x433).jpg

Corvus
12-17-2014, 10:18 AM
His family name is typically Jewish name in Hungary: Kulcsár. Many Hungarian Jews celebrated her as their own hero.

Agreed

Borna
12-17-2014, 10:20 AM
Not really: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edina_%28Vorname%29

I do not know from which language such name came, but i know you can find shit loads of Muslims in Bosnistan bearing these names.

Stears
12-17-2014, 10:29 AM
http://www.antikvarium.hu/konyv/foto/zsido-gyonas--11075225-90.jpg http://keyframe.nava.hu/service/gallery/keyframe/2010/10/05/rtl-31936/rtl-31936-18270900.jpg

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 11:24 AM
Edina is a typical name in Hungary, nothing to do with muslim names in Bosnia. Another Miss Hungary's name in 2003 was Edina, she looks much more atypical for a hungarian girl

http://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/balogh_edina4.jpg

Corvus
12-17-2014, 11:28 AM
Edina is a typical name in Hungary, nothing to do with muslim names in Bosnia. Another Miss Hungary's name in 2003 was Edina, she looks much more atypical for a hungarian girl

http://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/balogh_edina4.jpg

Apparently some Hungarians look pretty Balkanic. Its a minority though.
Many of them have Gypsy admixture. Some Jewish roots

Borna
12-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Apparently some Hungarians look pretty Balkanic. Its a minority though.
Many of them have Gypsy admixture. Some Jewish roots

I think Blogen theories are absurd, 20% of Hungarians can't have gypo admixture.

Stears
12-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Edina is a typical name in Hungary, nothing to do with muslim names in Bosnia. Another Miss Hungary's name in 2003 was Edina, she looks much more atypical for a hungarian girl http://meszarosmarton.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/balogh_edina4.jpg Neo-Cuman girl, since her parents migrated from Kecskemét city of Kunság region to Budapest. Other questions?

Stears
12-17-2014, 11:35 AM
Apparently some Hungarians look pretty Balkanic. Its a minority though. Many of them have Gypsy admixture. Some Jewish roots Hungarians did not mixed with gypsies. However immigrant gypsy population have partially balkanic genes, as all genetics researches proved. So there are no 100% gypsies in Hungary, because when theymigrated they were already mixed with balkanic populations. Unlike the Hungarians, the balkanites and romanians mixed with these nomadic groups.

Stears
12-17-2014, 11:40 AM
And as I proved with the academic authors, there are large number of romanians and serbians (with Hungarian names) in Kunság region, and Croatians in Southern Trans-Danubia, Serbs Romanians in the Alföld. Many of Serbs and Romanians catholicized after the Habsburg victory over the Ottomans. hey are also swarthy people. And the Slovjak people around Borsod and North-Eastern Hungary , they are also swarthier. There are around 100,000 100% Jews in Hungary, and around 200 000 partially (50-25%) Jewish people. Around 80% of them live in the downtown of Budapest, they survived the nazi era, because Jews of Budapest were not transported to Auschwitz, only the Jews of the countryside.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 12:41 PM
Edina is Muslim name from Balkans similar like Edin. She ain't Hungarian.
stop talking so much bullshit about hungarians. Horváth is a hungarian surname, Edina is a hungarian name too, We know it better. You don't know anything about Hungary, but still talk

Antimage
12-17-2014, 12:43 PM
His family name is typically Jewish name in Hungary: Kulcsár. So it is no wonder that many Hungarian Jews celebrated her as their own hero.

Ironically , Blogen became very happy when he "found" a "turanid" his alföldi type on the internet, However the majority of his 99% of his discovered Turanids have Jewish family names.


So it is not wonder that the "Kulcsár" girl has jewish features: (even after her nose-correction)


http://www.hir24.hu/Root/Shared/Pictures/2014/11/23/Kulcsar-Edina(650x433).jpg

i kow a guy with this surname and he's 0% jewish. stop spreading falso info. the girl is hungarian

Antimage
12-17-2014, 12:48 PM
And as I proved with the academic authors, there are large number of romanians and serbians (with Hungarian names) in Kunság region, and Croatians in Southern Trans-Danubia, Serbs Romanians in the Alföld. Many of Serbs and Romanians catholicized after the Habsburg victory over the Ottomans. hey are also swarthy people. And the Slovjak people around Borsod and North-Eastern Hungary , they are also swarthier. There are around 100,000 100% Jews in Hungary, and around 200 000 partially (50-25%) Jewish people. Around 80% of them live in the downtown of Budapest, they survived the nazi era, because Jews of Budapest were not transported to Auschwitz, only the Jews of the countryside.

cool story... every woggish hungarian is jewish, serbian, romanian, gypsy, cuman etc. the remaining 10% blonde haired blue eyed are real hungarian. nobody believes your retarded theories, not even you

Cern
12-17-2014, 12:54 PM
Edina Kulcsar ordinary and common Hungarian name/surname. Kulcsár common surname among the ethnic hungarians but it can be jewish or gypsy.

Borna
12-17-2014, 12:57 PM
stop talking so much bullshit about hungarians. Horváth is a hungarian surname, Edina is a hungarian name too, We know it better. You don't know anything about Hungary, but still talk

You are illiterate, i just said numerous Balkan Muslims have such name and it is very popular among them. You don't know what are you speaking.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 01:08 PM
You are illiterate, i just said numerous Balkan Muslims have such name and it is very popular among them. You don't know what are you speaking.

you say she isn't hungarian and you have zero information about her background
you also say edina is a muslim name, don't know where u got it from ,because hungarian wikipedia says it has latin and germanic origins. besides, a lot of hungarian girls have this name and none of them are muslim, all of them are christians -one of the most common forenames in hungary in fact.

Borna
12-17-2014, 01:20 PM
This girl is not Hungarian but Cuman/Jassic minority from Kunsag region of Hungary of Serbian/Romanian descent.

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:28 PM
cool story... every woggish hungarian is jewish, serbian, romanian, gypsy, cuman etc. the remaining 10% blonde haired blue eyed are real hungarian. nobody believes your retarded theories, not even you These "Cool story" was written by academic scholars and not by simple school-boys like you. Hallgass te "cigány forma" (jelentése a régi magyar nyelvben nem csak cigány, de a fekete hajú barnba szemű kreol bőrű emberekre alkalmazták általában). Do you remember the old Hungarian phrase ? "Cigány forma" means "gypsy form"? It was used for people with black hair dark bown eye and olive skin (the balkanic look).

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:30 PM
This girl is not Hungarian but Cuman/Jassic minority from Kunsag region of Hungary of Serbian/Romanian descent. So why does she have typical Jewish family name: Kulcsár?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 02:33 PM
So why does she have typical Jewish family name: Kulcsár?

it is a hungarian surname.

Borna
12-17-2014, 02:36 PM
She looks Bulgarian to me, not Hungarian.

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:36 PM
it is a hungarian surname. Wrong. It is a Hungarianized Jewish Family name like Kertész (Imre Kertész) Most of the Jewish people adopted Hungarian names, and a minority remained with their german names.

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:39 PM
She looks Bulgarian to me, not Hungarian. Wrong. He is a Jewish girl. It is 100% sure.

Borna
12-17-2014, 02:40 PM
This Illes guy is very fond of gypsies . I wonder if he is Gypo and not Hungarian.

Arbërori
12-17-2014, 02:40 PM
She's Hungarian and she might even have some Slavic descent.

Pontid with minor Alpinid. Beautiful!

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:43 PM
This Illes guy is very fond of gypsies . I wonder if he is Gypo and not Hungarian. Illés is an idiot school boy. He follow the american nation concenption: "Everybody is automatically Hungarian who have Hungarian citizenship ID card and Hungarian passport." He deny the importance of ethnicity. (perhaps he has many non-hungarian ancestors, and itself the ethnicity term is hurt his identity.)

Borna
12-17-2014, 02:43 PM
She's Hungarian and she might even have some Slavic descent.

Pontid with minor Alpinid. Beautiful!

Not really Slavic, her face is typical for eastern-southern Balkaners.

King Claus
12-17-2014, 02:44 PM
definitely indian blood

Antimage
12-17-2014, 02:48 PM
This girl is not Hungarian but Cuman/Jassic minority from Kunsag region of Hungary of Serbian/Romanian descent.

ever been to Kunsag region?it is the same like other regions in hungary. Don't believe what Stears say, he jis just angry that there are a lot of hungarian people with dark features and tries to deny that they exist by saying they aren't hungarians. According to his absurd and idiotic view, real hungarians look like scandinavians with blonde hair and blue eyes, but the reality is different. Hungarians can vary a lot in looks, just like most other european ethnicities.

According to stears's weird idea, none of these people playing for hungary football team are ethnic hungarian
http://www.fifa.com/mm//Photo/WorldFootball/MenRanking/01/51/30/52/1513052_FULL-LND.jpg
https://blog.psk.hr/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/ma%C4%91arska.jpg

but in fact these kind of looks aren't out of ordinary among hungarian people

sometimes hungarians are this dark: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?151803-where-can-this-atypical-hungarian-fit

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:49 PM
definitely indian blood About Jewish names in Hungary (University of Debrecen):

http://mnytud.arts.unideb.hu/nevtan/ne/szamok/31/ne3106ft.pdf

Page 37

A névmagyarosítók új családnevüket leggyakrabban régi nevük alapján: egykori családnevük hangalakja – fıleg kezdıbetői – vagy jelentése alapján választották, illetve alkották meg (minderrıl részletesebben l. FARKAS 2003: 151–7, illetve a témába vágó feldolgozások sorát). A régi név megtartásával együtt olykor kettıs családnevet hoztak létre, melyben az újonnan felvett családnév(rész) általában megelızte a régit: Fischer > Keresztes-Fischer, Deutsch > Hatvany Deutsch, ritkábban pedig követte azt: Kovács > Schmidt-Kovács. Ez a típus azonban nem volt igazán jellemzı, egykor a hivatalos szabályozás is csak ritkán engedélyezte (FARKAS 2002: 161). A régi családnévhez ilyképpen igazodó névválasztás más országok névváltoztatásainak is kézenfekvı módja és közismerten jellemzı vonása. Érdemes azonban megjegyeznünk, hogy ezek a névválasztási típusok a névmagyarosításban élenjáró zsidóság személynévhasználatában is elızményekkel bírtak: a zsidó egyénnév helyettesítıjeként használt keresztnevek, illetve német családneveik megválasztásában is használatosak voltak (vö. pl. H. W. GUGGENHEIMER – E. H. GUGGENHEIMER eds. 1992: ix–xxxi). Az itt következıkben ebbıl a még igen tág kérdéskörbıl azokat a mozzanatokat emeljük ki, melyek az idegen és a magyar nyelvi eredető családnévanyag közötti különbségeket jellemzik, illetve a névváltoztatások módját, a felvett nevek állományát ennek következményeképpen határozzák meg. 6.2. A legtipikusabb névmagyarosítási eljárás közismerten, többféle okból is (l. FARKAS 2003: 154–155) a régi családnév kezdıbetőjével, illetve -hangjával kezdıdı új név választása volt. E kettı a leggyakrabban egybeesik ugyan, olykor azonban el is válik egymástól; ilyenkor a kezdıbető (Sulek > Szücs) vagy a kezdıhang (Cohen > Kıvári) megtartására egyaránt lehetıség nyílott. (A kérdéshez vö. még Steskál > Szigeti, saját aláírásában Szteszkál-nak írva, tehát legalábbis szóbeli névként így használva: IRM 7138/1964.) Témánk szempontjából érdemes itt figyelnünk arra, hogy miképpen folytatódnak a magyarból hiányzó vagy eltérı kiejtéső kezdıbetők az új családnévben. Így például a németben gyakori W soha nem marad meg, és tipikusan V-s névkezdetnek adja át a helyét (Wurm > Vajda, Vas, Vidor); a Q kezdıbetős nevekbıl ugyanakkor K kezdető nevek lesznek (Quintz > Koltai, Kulcsár). A Singer, e zsidók közt nem ritka családnév olykor S-sel (Simonyi, Somló, Sugár), jóval gyakrabban azonban Sz-szel kezdıdı (Szabados, Szántó, Székely, Szemere, Szigeti) nevekben folytatódik. A kezdıbetők megırzésének tendenciája másképp abban

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 02:49 PM
In the end, she's probably just overtannend, like many of these "Misses" because they wanna look like some of the Latin girls which win these stupid competitions all the time. Looking at her facial structures, she's still very hungarian. Just because she seems woggy, makes some people here go crazy bout her origins. Accept it, you have a nice looking girl who is bit woggy, but still pretty. what's the matter...

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:52 PM
At the end, she's probably just overtannend, like many of these "Misses" because they wanna look like some of the Latin girls which win these stupid competitions all the time. Looking at her facial structures, she's still very hungarian. Just because she seems woggy, makes some people here go crazy bout her origins. Accept it, you have a nice looking girl who is bit woggy, but still pretty. what's the matter... I think she is Sephardic Jew, rare but exist in Hungary. So She does not need to be tanned.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 02:52 PM
hungarians are wogs ,get over it faggots

King Claus
12-17-2014, 02:52 PM
About Jewish names in Hungary (Univerity of Debrecen):

http://mnytud.arts.unideb.hu/nevtan/ne/szamok/31/ne3106ft.pdf
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A névmagyarosítók új családnevüket leggyakrabban régi nevük alapján: egykori családnevük hangalakja – fıleg kezdıbetői – vagy jelentése alapján választották, illetve alkották meg (minderrıl részletesebben l. FARKAS 2003: 151–7, illetve a témába vágó feldolgozások sorát). A régi név megtartásával együtt olykor kettıs családnevet hoztak létre, melyben az újonnan felvett családnév(rész) általában megelızte a régit: Fischer > Keresztes-Fischer, Deutsch > Hatvany Deutsch, ritkábban pedig követte azt: Kovács > Schmidt-Kovács. Ez a típus azonban nem volt igazán jellemzı, egykor a hivatalos szabályozás is csak ritkán engedélyezte (FARKAS 2002: 161). A régi családnévhez ilyképpen igazodó névválasztás más országok névváltoztatásainak is kézenfekvı módja és közismerten jellemzı vonása. Érdemes azonban megjegyeznünk, hogy ezek a névválasztási típusok a névmagyarosításban élenjáró zsidóság személynévhasználatában is elızményekkel bírtak: a zsidó egyénnév helyettesítıjeként használt keresztnevek, illetve német családneveik megválasztásában is használatosak voltak (vö. pl. H. W. GUGGENHEIMER – E. H. GUGGENHEIMER eds. 1992: ix–xxxi). Az itt következıkben ebbıl a még igen tág kérdéskörbıl azokat a mozzanatokat emeljük ki, melyek az idegen és a magyar nyelvi eredető családnévanyag közötti különbségeket jellemzik, illetve a névváltoztatások módját, a felvett nevek állományát ennek következményeképpen határozzák meg. 6.2. A legtipikusabb névmagyarosítási eljárás közismerten, többféle okból is (l. FARKAS 2003: 154–155) a régi családnév kezdıbetőjével, illetve -hangjával kezdıdı új név választása volt. E kettı a leggyakrabban egybeesik ugyan, olykor azonban el is válik egymástól; ilyenkor a kezdıbető (Sulek > Szücs) vagy a kezdıhang (Cohen > Kıvári) megtartására egyaránt lehetıség nyílott. (A kérdéshez vö. még Steskál > Szigeti, saját aláírásában Szteszkál-nak írva, tehát legalábbis szóbeli névként így használva: IRM 7138/1964.) Témánk szempontjából érdemes itt figyelnünk arra, hogy miképpen folytatódnak a magyarból hiányzó vagy eltérı kiejtéső kezdıbetők az új családnévben. Így például a németben gyakori W soha nem marad meg, és tipikusan V-s névkezdetnek adja át a helyét (Wurm > Vajda, Vas, Vidor); a Q kezdıbetős nevekbıl ugyanakkor K kezdető nevek lesznek (Quintz > Koltai, Kulcsár). A Singer, e zsidók közt nem ritka családnév olykor S-sel (Simonyi, Somló, Sugár), jóval gyakrabban azonban Sz-szel kezdıdı (Szabados, Szántó, Székely, Szemere, Szigeti) nevekben folytatódik. A kezdıbetők megırzésének tendenciája másképp abban
the amount of filth keeps piling up

Antimage
12-17-2014, 02:54 PM
gypsies+cumans+blakanites=hungarians
hungarians with blonde hair and blue eyes aren't real hungarians

Insuperable
12-17-2014, 02:54 PM
Not really Slavic, her face is typical for eastern-southern Balkaners.

There is a shitload of girls in Croatia with this kind of pigmentation. I guess they are not Slavic and must change their language.

Stears
12-17-2014, 02:55 PM
hungarians are wogs ,get over it faggots Wrong. Only the minority groups. But they are only immigrant minority (like you in North-Eastern Hungary), that's why the Hungarian cognomen and old pejorative phrase for WOG people (black hair nd dark eyes with olive skin") CIGÁNY FORMA, which means "gypsy form" .

Illés, are you a "gypsy form" man, as the Hungarian language call the people with black hair brown eyes and olive skin?

Stears
12-17-2014, 03:00 PM
Illés is also a Jewish family name in Hungary, See the text from the ELTE University (PAGE - 42) : https://edit.elte.hu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10831/8811/ne34_4t%C2%A0.pdf?sequence=1

Borna
12-17-2014, 03:32 PM
There is a shitload of girls in Croatia with this kind of pigmentation. I guess they are not Slavic and must change their language.

I have never seen girl in Croatia with this type of pigmentation to be of Croat descent.
Except for summer tan.

aherne
12-17-2014, 03:41 PM
Alpine + Med (Pontid). Looks Albanian...

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:07 PM
gypsies+cumans+blakanites=hungarians hungarians with blonde hair and blue eyes aren't real hungarians Have you ever been in foreign European countries? There are no blond countries except Sweden Finland and some baltic states. Even the majority (80%) of German and English people are not blond. The ratio of blue and green eyes are 50% in Hungary, of course not in Kunság (Cumania) and not where the croatians romanians and serbians slovjak gypsy minority people live.

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:09 PM
I have never seen girl in Croatia with this type of pigmentation to be of Croat descent. Except for summer tan. She is a Kulcsár, a Jewish girl. And he is Illés, a Hungarian Jewish descendant boy. So it is no wonder that this Illés boy hates the European ethnicity terms, because he use simple citizenship and passport to determine the nationality.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:11 PM
She is a Kulcsár, a Jewish girl. And he is Illés, a Hungarian Jewish descendant boy. So it is no wonder that this Illés boy hates the European ethnicity terms, because he use simple citizenship and passport to determine the nationality.

no. you are the fake hungarian. real hungarians don't have blonde hair blue eyes

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:11 PM
I have never seen girl in Croatia with this type of pigmentation to be of Croat descent. Except for summer tan. Than go to a synagogue in Croatia, and you will see such girls.

Corvus
12-17-2014, 04:12 PM
no. you are the fake hungarian. real hungarians don't have blonde hair blue eyes

Plenty of them have. They are more widespread than the dark ones

Trun
12-17-2014, 04:13 PM
There is a shitload of girls in Croatia with this kind of pigmentation. I guess they are not Slavic and must change their language.

Ringlenatter's daily dose of reality xD

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:17 PM
Plenty of them have. They are more widespread than the dark ones Just see the family name of this boy : "Illés" MEANS: Elijah, אליהו, Eliyahu,:)))))

Borna
12-17-2014, 04:20 PM
Ringlenatter's daily dose of reality xD

That is daily does of reversed psychology, but what would you know about that. You don't really know Solin for real.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:20 PM
Plenty of them have. They are more widespread than the dark ones

funny. ever been to hungary? hungarians rarely have naturally blond hair. most blondes in hungary are females and at least half of them are fake blonde. i think no more than 20% of hungary have blue eyes. brown and green are way more common. blue is often considered exotic and unique here

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:23 PM
look at them blondes;) hungarian crowd

http://kepek.origo.hu/galleriesdisplay/upload//1103/T_nte2011315184810/img/plusz.jpg

this photo was taken in budapest, not little cumania. to be honest there are not much phenotypical differences between hungarian regions

Trun
12-17-2014, 04:23 PM
That is daily does of reversed psychology, but what would you know about that. You don't really know Solin for real.

Hah, he is absolutely right and everyone who has seen Croats in their lives can confirm.

Funny how you mention Eastern Balkans when Dalmatian and Hercegovian Croats are equally pigmented as Bulgarians.

Corvus
12-17-2014, 04:24 PM
funny. ever been to hungary? hungarians rarely have naturally blond hair. most blondes in hungary are females and at least half of them are fake blonde. i think no more than 20% of hungary have blue eyes. brown and green are way more common. blue is often considered exotic and unique here


I have been in Hungary more often than you can imagine. Blue eyes is never ever considered exotic. Its more widespread than in neighbouring countries like Slovakia.
Its pretty common. And there are really lots of blonde and red haired individuals.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:27 PM
I have been in Hungary more often than you can imagine.

no

and imagine? lol i live here. most hungarians are really dark brown haired. as for eye color, blue is minority. brown and green are more common. Blue eye color is often treated as unusual and inique trait

Trun
12-17-2014, 04:28 PM
According to Apricity, the average Hungarian is darker than the average Croat, Bosniak, Serb, Northern Italian and similar to the average Spaniard.

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:29 PM
look at them blondes;) hungarian crowd http://kepek.origo.hu/galleriesdisplay/upload//1103/T_nte2011315184810/img/plusz.jpg this photo was taken in budapest, not little cumania. to be honest there are not much phenotypical differences between hungarian regions It was taken in a Jewish protest against Jobbik and anti-government protesters from Jewish disctricts.

But see average germans:

http://www.wsws.org/de/media/photos/legacy/de/acta-f14a.jpg

http://earthfirstjournal.org/newswire/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2011/03/germanyprotest1.jpeg

Corvus
12-17-2014, 04:29 PM
According to Apricity, the average Hungarian is darker than the average Croat, Bosniak, Serb, Northern Italian and similar to the average Spaniard.

Indeed and this is ridicolous

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:32 PM
According to Apricity, the average Hungarian is darker than the average Croat, Bosniak, Serb, Northern Italian and similar to the average Spaniard. Idiot. Central and Southern Poland is not lighter pigmented than Hungary, only the Northern part which is closer to the sea.

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:37 PM
Average Hungarians: (black hair is minority)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9AHPKJd0jE

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:38 PM
According to Apricity, the average Hungarian is darker than the average Croat, Bosniak, Serb, Northern Italian and similar to the average Spaniard.

according to me, hungarians are avarage looking for the geographical location. yet, this idiot stears says that real hungarians are blonde haired blue eyed and everyone in hungary with brown hair and brown eye(which is majority of population here btw) is non hungarian gypsy/cuman/serbian whatever shit. according to him hungarians are scandinavian looking

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:41 PM
Average Hungarians: (black hair is minority)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9AHPKJd0jE

lol. at volt festival there are a lot of tourists from western europe. not to mention it is held in sopron, which had a german /austrian majority 100 years ago. a lot of people in the city are magyarized germans/austrians

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:42 PM
according to me, hungarians are avarage looking for the geographical location. yet, this idiot stears says that real hungarians are blonde haired blue eyed and everyone in hungary with brown hair and brown eye(which is majority of population here btw) is non hungarian gypsy/cuman/serbian whatever shit. according to him hungarians are scandinavian looking

Wrong Dear "אֱלִיָּהוּ,"

Very few blond country exist: Finland baltic states and Sweden. AMEN.

Black hair is gypsy look according to Hungarian terms. "CIGÁNY FORMA" However you live in Miskolc (North Eastern Hungary), where the Slavic (Slovjak and Rusyn) names are more frequent than Hungarian family names. These minority regions are darker than Ethnic Hungarian regions.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:43 PM
It was taken in a Jewish protest against Jobbik and anti-government protesters from Jewish disctricts.

But see average germans:

http://www.wsws.org/de/media/photos/legacy/de/acta-f14a.jpg

http://earthfirstjournal.org/newswire/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2011/03/germanyprotest1.jpeg

they are lighter than the hungarian crowd that i posted. also the hungarian crowd isn't jewish. stop inventing retarded excuses every time a dark haired hungarian appears on apricity. It's natural thing for hungary to have a brown haired majority given the geographical location. I think even scandinavian countries barely have a blonde haired majority

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:44 PM
lol. at volt festival there are a lot of tourists from western europe. not to mention it is held in sopron, which had a german /austrian majority 100 years ago. a lot of people in the city are magyarized germans/austrians

Wrong, there are no serious numbers of foreign tourists in the little rural/provincial Volt Festival. You confused it with Sziget Fesztival, Budapest.

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:45 PM
they are lighter than the hungarian crowd that i posted. also the hungarian crowd isn't jewish. stop inventing retarded excuses every time a dark haired hungarian appears on apricity. It's natural thing for hungary to have a brown haired majority given the geographical location. I think even scandinavian countries barely have a blonde haired majority

Are you blind or a liar? Because there are a lot of old women with colored/dyed hair?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:47 PM
Wrong Dear "אֱלִיָּהוּ,"

Very few blond country exist: Finland baltic states and Sweden. AMEN.

Black hair is gypsy look according to Hungarian terms. "CIGÁNY FORMA" However you live in Miskolc (North Eastern Hungary), where the Slavic (Slovjak and Rusyn) names are more frequent than Hungarian family names. These minority regions are darker than Ethnic Hungarian regions.

illes isn't even my surname, don't know where u got it from. all parts of hungary received and assimilated significant amount of non-hungarian settlers. are you from budapest? a lot of germans, slovaks and serbs settled that area in the past. If you come from Budapest, you are likely to have german,slovakian and serbian ancestors.

North-east hungary isn't anything special, a lot of slav and german peoples were assimilated in most parts of hungary. hungary is a very mixed country, like any country in the world. Pure blooded hungarian doesn't exist

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:47 PM
This ELIJAH (his family name) אֱלִיָּהוּ, boy is a sick and maniac liar.

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:52 PM
UNIVERSITY OF PÉCS.

Immigrant Minority territories in Hungary after the Ottoman wars:

The map was made in UNIVERSITY OF PÉCS


Illés, (Elijah Jewish boy) live in Miskolc, and North Eastern Hungary, where Eastern Slovaks (green) and Rusyn (orange) people live. They are swarthier, but it is a regional problem of the descendants of slavic minorities of Hungary.

http://arkadia.pte.hu/fajlok/01terkep_priskin.jpg

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:55 PM
Of course the opinion of universities did not affected this Eliyah boy, they will neglect them. The ethnicity did not exist for them. He uses the American nation term: He can speak the official language he has a passport therefore he is automatically Hungarian.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 04:56 PM
Are you blind or a liar? Because there are a lot of old women with colored/dyed hair?

let's not talk about the second picture, because we can't even see them properly. on the first pic half of them are blonde + their skin colour is lighter than the avarage hungarian

Stears
12-17-2014, 04:59 PM
let's not talk about the second picture, because we can't even see them properly. on the first pic half of them are blonde + their skin colour is lighter than the avarage hungarian

Dear Elijah,

I don't think so.
Do not forget you are not from an ethnic Hungarian territory, but from Miskolc. People of N-E part of the country are weird for the standard Hungarians. (weird Eastern slavic faces)

Antimage
12-17-2014, 05:00 PM
UNIVERSITY OF PÉCS.

Immigrant Minority territories in Hungary after the Ottoman wars:

The map was made in UNIVERSITY OF PÉCS


Illés, (Elijah Jewish boy) live in Miskolc, and North Eastern Hungary, where Eastern Slovaks (green) and Rusyn (orange) people live. They are swarthier, but it is a regional problem of the descendants of slavic minorities of Hungary.

http://arkadia.pte.hu/fajlok/01terkep_priskin.jpg

that maps shows slavs and germans settled in all parts of hungary. so hungarian don't exist then?

btw, you are from budapest, where people have a lot of slavic and germanic ancestry. what's your opinion about that you might have slovakian, serbian and german ancestors = you are fake hungarian?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 05:08 PM
Dear Elijah,

I don't think so.
Do not forget you are not from an ethnic Hungarian territory, but from Miskolc. People of N-E part of the country are weird for the standard Hungarians. (weird Eastern slavic faces)

miskolc is a hungarian territory. and it's not really different than rest of hungary. btw, i think you are probably cuman. cumans were described as having blonde haired blue eyes, like you. they are called in "yellow" in german and russian which refers to their hair color

so, blonde people in hungary including you are probably cuman descendants

Antimage
12-17-2014, 05:10 PM
hungarians 1000 years ago were much darker haired and darker eyed than we are today. hungarians become lighter during the centuries by mixing slavs and germans

Antimage
12-17-2014, 05:12 PM
Stears isn't a real hungarian, he lives in budapest, where most hungarians are slovak, serbian and german descendants. but i also believe he has cuman ancestry, that's where he got his blonde hair from.

DON'T BELIEVE HIM! HE IS NOT REAL HUNGARIAN.

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:17 PM
that maps shows slavs and germans settled in all parts of hungary. so hungarian don't exist then?

btw, you are from budapest, where people have a lot of slavic and germanic ancestry. what's your opinion about that you might have slovakian, serbian and german ancestors = you are fake hungarian?

Wrong. See the cursors of Northern Transdanubia "Magyar" Serious German settlements were in Baranya countty and some villages in the most western area, but most of them was wipe out and transported to Germany after ww2. However the minorities in your eastern areas remained intact.

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:17 PM
Stears isn't a real hungarian, he lives in budapest, where most hungarians are slovak, serbian and german descendants. but i also believe he has cuman ancestry, that's where he got his blonde hair from.

DON'T BELIEVE HIM! HE IS NOT REAL HUNGARIAN.

There are no serbians in Budapest. None of my ancestors were born in Budapest.

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:20 PM
Stears isn't a real hungarian, he lives in budapest, where most hungarians are slovak, serbian and german descendants. but i also believe he has cuman ancestry, that's where he got his blonde hair from.

DON'T BELIEVE HIM! HE IS NOT REAL HUNGARIAN.


Blah blah blah. I can support all of my statements (the migrations and the family names) with academic authors and links from the homepages of Universities of Hungary, however you dear "Elijah" you can only write some personal attacks.

That is the difference between me and you.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 05:30 PM
Blah blah blah. I can support all of my statements (the migrations and the family names) with academic authors and links from the homepages of Universities of Hungary, however you dear "Elijah" you can only write some personal attacks.

That is the difference between me and you.

what family names? seach for "Kulcsár" surname in facebook or google, you will find a lot of ethnic hungarians with that surname. i myself have a real life friend with that name and he's 0% jewish. And who cares about migrations? I never denied there were slovakian and german migrations to hungary.

you say Edina Kulcsár is jewish, but you didn't prove it. you also said I'm from north-east hungary etc and you have no proof. you say i'm jewish and you have no proof.

you proved nothing.

jatt
12-17-2014, 05:33 PM
What a Beuty. Much better than some alien looking ones sometimes posted n called grgeous

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:38 PM
what family names? seach for "Kulcsár" surname in facebook or google, you will find a lot of ethnic hungarians with that surname. i myself have a real life friend with that name and he's 0% jewish. And who cares about migrations? I never denied there were slovakian and german migrations to hungary.

you say Edina Kulcsár is jewish, but you didn't prove it. you also said I'm from north-east hungary etc and you have no proof. you say i'm jewish and you have no proof.

you proved nothing.

Kulcsár Kertész Illés are traditional Hungarianized Jewish names, as the above mentioned book represented it. So dear Elijah (aka Illés) you lost the deabte. If you are not Jewish descendant, why do you have Jewish family name? Are you a cripto Jew like Csanád Szegedi in Jobbik party?

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:47 PM
In Hungary people with black hair and dark eyes complain because average Hungarians think that they are gypsy people or they are gypsy mixtures:

(USE GOOGLE TRANSLATOR)


http://www.gyakorikerdesek.hu/egyeb-kerdesek__onismereti-kerdesek__3453022-mindenki-azt-hiszi-roma-vagyok-pedig-nem-mit-tegyek

https://www.kerdezd.eu/kereses?q=Mindenki+azt+hiszi%2C+roma+vagyok%2C+ped ig

http://www.gyakorikerdesek.hu/emberek__egyeb-kerdesek__5663233-sotetbarna-hajam-van-sotetbarna-szinte-fekete-szemem-es-kreol-borom-sokan-r

Stears
12-17-2014, 05:59 PM
It is too wrong for Illés and blogen that average Hungarians recognize them as "gypsy form" boys.... :))))))))))

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Kulcsár Kertész Illés are traditional Hungarianized Jewish names, as the above mentioned book represented it. So dear Elijah (aka Illés) you lost the deabte. If you are not Jewish descendant, why do you have Jewish family name? Are you a cripto Jew like Csanád Szegedi in Jobbik party?

i don't care what that shitty book says. reality is different. there aren't exclusively jewish surnames in hungary. maybe lots of jews have those names, but there are probably just as much hungarian that have them. surname alone can't indicate ethnic origin. have u searched for people with Kulcsár surname on facebook? lots of hungarians have that surname

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:06 PM
It is too wrong for Illés and blogen that average Hungarians recognize them as "gypsy form" boys.... :))))))))))

Ördög Nóra and Debreczeni Zita, Bódy Sylvi, Görög Zita etc are famous television personalities in hungary, they are considered good looking by the avarage hungarian and they have jet black hair(what u call gypsy hair). They are famous for their looks and I doubt they complain about their bad looks, but rather, it's the opposite; they make a living out of their looks

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:10 PM
i don't care what that shitty book says. reality is different. there aren't exclusively jewish surnames in hungary. maybe lots of jews have those names, but there are probably just as much hungarian that have them. surname alone can't indicate ethnic origin. have u searched for people with Kulcsár surname on facebook? lots of hungarians have that surname

Of course, the books of academics, the links from universities are not important. The only important thing is your own imaginations. Sorry, but it sounds like a psychotic.

Hungarian name: ILLYÉS (like Gyula illyés) Jewish form of the name: Illés (like you). Christian family name: Németh, Jewish family name version: Német DEAL WITH IT. Yes a lot of Hungarian citizen have Kulcsár name, but none of them are ethnic Hungarian, because kulcsár is a typical adopted artificial name..

If I were you I would search my family tree, to avoid the problems of Csanád Szegedi :))))))))

StonyArabia
12-17-2014, 06:11 PM
She is beautiful looks to be mixed with some kind of Brown Caucasoid and Turanid.

jatt
12-17-2014, 06:14 PM
Prolly that's y she look attractive to me as well

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:16 PM
She is beautiful looks to be mixed with some kind of Brown Caucasoid and Turanid.

Jewish people as Turanids. I've always mentioned it for blogen.

StonyArabia
12-17-2014, 06:18 PM
Jewish people as Turanids. I've always mentioned it for blogen.

Is she really Jewish, because I doubt Jews have Turanid strains. Anyways she is beautiful just brown rofl.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:24 PM
Of course, the books of academics, the links from universities are not important. The only important thing is your own imaginations. Sorry, but it sounds like a psychotic.

Hungarian name: ILLYÉS (like Gyula illyés) Jewish form of the name: Illés (like you). Christian family name: Németh, Jewish family name version: Német DEAL WITH IT. Yes a lot of Hungarian citizen have Kulcsár name, but none of them are ethnic Hungarian, because kulcsár is a typical adopted artificial name..

If I were you I would search my family tree, to avoid the problems of Csanád Szegedi :))))))))

retard , i already told u it's not my surname, it's forename

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:25 PM
Is she really Jewish, because I doubt Jews have Turanid strains. Anyways she is beautiful just brown rofl.

no, she's not jewish. Stears is liar. He's shame of hungary :(

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:30 PM
She is beautiful looks to be mixed with some kind of Brown Caucasoid and Turanid.

she is somewhat exotic looking, but not so much out of ordinary. looks normal for a hungarian

have u seen these threads of mine? http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?151803-where-can-this-atypical-hungarian-fit
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?134512-classify-not-so-typicall-hungarian-man-and-say-where-he-can-pass
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?151973-why-are-hungarians-so-swarthy

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:31 PM
retard , i already told u it's not my surname, it's forename Old silly trickery. You change your statements by your momentary interests. Until now, you tried to defend your family name Illés, now you invented that it is only your forename. Hahahaha

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:35 PM
Is she really Jewish, because I doubt Jews have Turanid strains. Anyways she is beautiful just brown rofl. She is Jewish girl, Jews in Hungary have often eastern, central asian "turanid" look. Just watch the members government of communist leader Béla Kun. You can see their original birth name in the brackets:

http://www.valtozast.hu/web/images/stories/1919/kormanyzotanacs.jpg

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:40 PM
Old silly trickery. You change your statements by you interests. Until now, you tried to defend your family name Illés, now you invented that it is only your forename. Hahahaha

you are really retarded, i never stated it's my surname, show the post where i admit it's my surname.

you haven't answered yet, how does it feel to be a fake hungarian? your european look is a result of assimilating slavs and germans. 1000 years ago unmixed hungarians looked more asian than today. Sadly, Kulcsár Edina is more hungarian than you :(

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:42 PM
you are really retarded, i never stated it's my surname, show the post where i admit it's my surname. you haven't answered yet, how does it feel to be a fake hungarian? your european look is a result of assimilating slavs and germans. 1000 years ago unmixed hungarians looked more asian than today. Sadly, Kulcsár Edina is more hungarian than you :( Hahaha It was very silly and very transparent defense/explanations Kulcsár (with this name and look) is similar Hungarian as the members of the above mentioned Kun government.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:42 PM
She is Jewish girl, Jews in Hungary have often eastern, central asian "turanid" look. Just watch the members government of communist leader Béla Kun. You can see their original birth name in the brackets:

http://www.valtozast.hu/web/images/stories/1919/kormanyzotanacs.jpg

they don't look central asian, they look more european. some of them might be turanid, but who cares. Turanids are typical for eastern europe.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:43 PM
Hahaha It was very silly and very transparent defense/explanations

what's your opinion about the fact that i am more hungarian than you?

jatt
12-17-2014, 06:44 PM
She doesn't look turNid to me. I don't find Turkish women that much attractive

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:44 PM
they don't look central asian, they look more european. some of them might be turanid, but who cares. Turanids are typical for eastern europe. Where are turanids typical? IN Cumania/Kunság? In N-Eastern Slovjak / Rusyn settlements? Or between some Jewish people in Hungary?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:45 PM
Stears why are you frustrated that some hungarians are woggish? You should accept the reality and be proud of your nation

Antimage
12-17-2014, 06:46 PM
Where are turanids typical? IN Cumania/Kunság? In N-Eastern Slovjak / Rusyn settlements? Or between some Jewish people in Hungary?

there are some turanids in ukraine, romania , serbia and bulgaria also. turanids look predominantly european with a touch of asian. Not that rare phenotype in eastern europe

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:55 PM
there are some turanids in ukraine, romania , serbia and bulgaria also. turanids look predominantly european with a touch of asian. Not that rare phenotype in eastern europe So, why have Hungarians (unlike the Northern Germanic and Slavic people) extremly low ratio of Asian haplogroup markers. The ratio of Asian markers in Hungarians are similar to aboriginal English and French population, which means it is EXTREMELY low.

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:56 PM
Stears why are you frustrated that some hungarians are woggish? You should accept the reality and be proud of your nation So why can't you prove it? Fortunately, Hungary is not your slavic Miskolc or neo-cuman (romanian-serbian) Kunság region :)))))

Stears
12-17-2014, 06:59 PM
http://www.aszhirportal.hu/storage/files/uploads/120/IMG_0110k.jpg http://mork.nyugat.hu/Scopes/nyugat2013/var//improxy/NyugatWXGAPicture/178930_szombathely_visszavar.jpg http://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/reccs1.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OicvTjVieWM/UvKHve_u5DI/AAAAAAAAAhY/eSNdUMr4KIQ/s1600/1618163_594869807229127_1329966275_o.jpg http://www.geo.info.hu/portal2007/images/stories/andi/oklevlkiosztl.jpg http://mork.nyugat.hu/Scopes/nyugat2013/var//improxy/NyugatWXGAPicture/194199_nyugat_magyarorszagi_egyetem_bolyai_janos_g yakorlo.jpg http://semmelweis.hu/hirek/files/2012/07/SummerSchoolParticipants.jpg http://tmk.sze.hu/images/Audi%20team2.jpg http://www.sopron.hu/upload/content/25/2557/_25574/IMG_0078c.jpg http://mefs.hu/!/images/IMG_4106.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eJeDIC7lmg4/UMJbkyjmG9I/AAAAAAAAC2U/1WwQCVqJ2k4/s1600/IMG_8898.jpg http://crnl.hu/!old/tan/tesi/rokauzok_2011_10_08/11.jpg http://www.refdunantul.hu/data/sentphoto/2011/03/09/egyetemi_csoportk%C3%A9p.jpg http://veol.hu/data/cikk/129/2688/cikk_1292688/pannonponthuzo.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkM1-6DQk-HueJJ-7i-6LHdQAe4w0RmJkuY4wqHaM4rYZTu6O_ http://semmelweis.hu/hirek/files/2011/11/felvi6.jpg Average Hungarian university students. Edina Kulcsár looks weird foreigner amongst average Hungarians.

That's why people with black hair i and eyes n Hungary complain that the majority see them as gypsy people.

http://uj.tnt.bme.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BME-csapat.jpg http://www.epito.bme.hu/uvt/hirek_esemenyek/kepek/15/_img_0114.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-78g3tP6zWNs/Tqp1jpdwX2I/AAAAAAAABlQ/tAtUl2KMdhI/s1600/K%25C3%25A9p%2B005.jpg

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:01 PM
And that's why the Hungarian phrase: CIGÁNY FORMA (gypsy form) exist for people with dark pigmentation in Hungary.

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:03 PM
Na mi a baj Elijah? Rájöttél hogy a az idegen telepesekből álló kunságban és miskolcodon az É-KHG-ben az emberek cigó formák? Hogy ti furcsák vagytok a standard magyarokhoz képest?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:04 PM
http://www.aszhirportal.hu/storage/files/uploads/120/IMG_0110k.jpg http://mork.nyugat.hu/Scopes/nyugat2013/var//improxy/NyugatWXGAPicture/178930_szombathely_visszavar.jpg http://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/reccs1.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OicvTjVieWM/UvKHve_u5DI/AAAAAAAAAhY/eSNdUMr4KIQ/s1600/1618163_594869807229127_1329966275_o.jpg http://www.geo.info.hu/portal2007/images/stories/andi/oklevlkiosztl.jpg http://mork.nyugat.hu/Scopes/nyugat2013/var//improxy/NyugatWXGAPicture/194199_nyugat_magyarorszagi_egyetem_bolyai_janos_g yakorlo.jpg http://semmelweis.hu/hirek/files/2012/07/SummerSchoolParticipants.jpg http://tmk.sze.hu/images/Audi%20team2.jpg http://www.sopron.hu/upload/content/25/2557/_25574/IMG_0078c.jpg http://mefs.hu/!/images/IMG_4106.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eJeDIC7lmg4/UMJbkyjmG9I/AAAAAAAAC2U/1WwQCVqJ2k4/s1600/IMG_8898.jpg http://crnl.hu/!old/tan/tesi/rokauzok_2011_10_08/11.jpg http://www.refdunantul.hu/data/sentphoto/2011/03/09/egyetemi_csoportk%C3%A9p.jpg http://veol.hu/data/cikk/129/2688/cikk_1292688/pannonponthuzo.jpg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkM1-6DQk-HueJJ-7i-6LHdQAe4w0RmJkuY4wqHaM4rYZTu6O_ http://semmelweis.hu/hirek/files/2011/11/felvi6.jpg Average Hungarian university students. Edina Kulcsár looks weird foreigner amongst average Hungarians.

That's why people with black hair i and eyes n Hungary complain that the majority see them as gypsy people.

http://uj.tnt.bme.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BME-csapat.jpg http://www.epito.bme.hu/uvt/hirek_esemenyek/kepek/15/_img_0114.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-78g3tP6zWNs/Tqp1jpdwX2I/AAAAAAAABlQ/tAtUl2KMdhI/s1600/K%25C3%25A9p%2B005.jpg

what are you trying to prove with these photos? their faces can't even been seen properly. I'm sure there are some turanids and balkanic looking people there

she wouldn't stand out as foreign looking here

:http://www.fehergyarmat.hu/telenor/csapat1.jpg

without the makup she isn't anything unique or unusal looking

jatt
12-17-2014, 07:05 PM
Damn lost the interest Now.

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:07 PM
what are you trying to prove with these photos? their faces can't even been seen properly. I'm sure there are some turanids and balkanic looking people there she wouldn't stand out as foreign looking here :http://www.fehergyarmat.hu/telenor/csapat1.jpg without the makup she isn't anything unique or unusal looking Only one man and one woman (the women is gypsy) have black hair. Men have too short hair to define them. Black hair in Hungary is rare. They reach the 30% only in N-Eastern Hungary and Kunság Cumania. There are even gypsy faces and foreigner players in this Telenor team.

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:11 PM
Unlike your international team, the Hungarian junior waterpolo team has no foreigners (see the names of the team list)

http://waterpolo.hu/art/c/csapat.jpg

La Misse
12-17-2014, 07:13 PM
Very beautiful!

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:14 PM
Unlike your international team, the Hungarian junior waterpolo team has no foreigners (see the names of the team list)

http://waterpolo.hu/art/c/csapat.jpg

what's so special about those guys? why did you that pic here?
Kulcsár Edina would easily fit among those hungarian female handball players.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:15 PM
Na mi a baj Elijah? Rájöttél hogy a az idegen telepesekből álló kunságban és miskolcodon az É-KHG-ben az emberek cigó formák? Hogy ti furcsák vagytok a standard magyarokhoz képest?

nem tudom miről beszélsz, nincs semmi értelme amit mondasz

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:18 PM
what's so special about those guys? why did you that pic here? Kulcsár Edina would easily fit among those hungarian female handball players. For the serbian Bosnian foreign legionaries? Or she can fit for the gypsy player(Kolompár ?)?

KawaiiKawaii
12-17-2014, 07:21 PM
Romanians, Serbians, Cumans and Slovaks are better looking and more intelligent than Hungarians.

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:27 PM
Romanians, Serbians, Cumans and Slovaks are better looking and more intelligent than Hungarians. Look average IQ by country.... They are similar to many third word country. They are far from western European look, their majority is swarthy. They don't look very european.

KawaiiKawaii
12-17-2014, 07:30 PM
Look average IQ by country.... They are similar to many third word country. They are far from western European look, their majority is swarthy. They don't look very european.

I was trolling :D But seriously Stears, according to you, who are the closest people in term of looks to Hungarians? Balkans are swarthy, Slovaks are swarthy, Germanics and Northern Slavs are half-Asian, so who is left?

Stears
12-17-2014, 07:32 PM
I was trolling :D But seriously Stears, according to you, who are the closest people in term of looks to Hungarians? Balkans are swarthy, Slovaks are swarthy, Germanics and Northern Slavs are half-Asian, so who is left?

Don't be silly, they are not half asian, but they have more asian genetic markers. The Balkans is really a swarthy place (due to middle-eastern and negroid markers).

KawaiiKawaii
12-17-2014, 07:33 PM
Don't be silly, they are not half asian, but they have more asian genetic markers. The Balkans is really a swarthy place (due to middle-eastern and negroid markers).

So what ethnicity are Hungarians the closest to according to you?

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:33 PM
For the serbian Bosnian foreign legionaries? Or she can fit for the gypsy player(Kolompár ?)?
what serbian and bosnians are you talking about? there aren't any.

look at this photo, all the girls are hungarian. Edina doesn't look foreign at all, now stop stupid propaganda. At beauty contests they prefer the exotic looking girls.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10403869_801475236559118_5570196902129964827_o.jpg

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:36 PM
So what ethnicity are Hungarians the closest to according to you?

according to him, hungarians are a scandinavian like people and anyone dark haired or slightly exotic is non hungarian.

look at the photo i posted above. Edina isn't out of ordinary. She's 6th from right

Corvus
12-17-2014, 07:38 PM
according to him, hungarians are a scandinavian like people and anyone dark haired or slightly exotic is non hungarian.

look at the photo i posted above. Edina isn't out of ordinary. She's 6th from right

And according to you Hungarians look like Persians

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:47 PM
And according to you Hungarians look like Persians

no, not really.

Corvus
12-17-2014, 07:51 PM
Having Hungarian roots myself, which is emphasized by my surname
I can truly claim that Hungarians look similar to their Austrian and Croatian neighbours
Slovaks are slightly darker on average, Romanians definitly darker, at least the ethnic ones
not the Szekler settlers in Transylvania (where my ancestry is from)

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:04 PM
what serbian and bosnians are you talking about? there aren't any.

look at this photo, all the girls are hungarian. Edina doesn't look foreign at all, now stop stupid propaganda. At beauty contests they prefer the exotic looking girls.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10403869_801475236559118_5570196902129964827_o.jpg

Do not post color/dyed hair women. There are no average light pigmented nation in Balkans!!!



Bosnians:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_2048w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/06/28/Foreign/Images/03759908.jpg


http://www.muskiportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fcs.jpg


http://revolution-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/10001221_10203524694024484_1825536541_o.jpg


https://lefthookjournal.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/img_1534.jpg

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:11 PM
Deal with it, swarthy and dark pigmentation means "Gypsy look" Gypsy form for average Hungarians.

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:18 PM
Watch it in HD! (concentrate only for the hair color men) And do not forget, Hungary is the only country in the former eastern block , where western European phenotypes are relevant, due to the past of medieval Hungarian Kingdom




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn-ad6NnerI

Antimage
12-17-2014, 08:28 PM
Do not post color/dyed hair women. There are no average light pigmented nation in Balkans!!!



Bosnians:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_2048w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/06/28/Foreign/Images/03759908.jpg


http://www.muskiportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fcs.jpg


http://revolution-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/10001221_10203524694024484_1825536541_o.jpg


https://lefthookjournal.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/img_1534.jpg

why do you post bosnians? i don't care about them.
I don't think any of the girls have dyed hair on the photo i posted

Antimage
12-17-2014, 08:32 PM
Watch it in HD! (concentrate only for the hair color men) And do not forget, Hungary is the only country in the former eastern block , where western European phenotypes are relevant, due to the past of medieval Hungarian Kingdom




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn-ad6NnerI

what do you want to prove with the video? a lot of people have dark brown or even black hair. Kulcsár Edina could pass in that crowd unnoticed.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 08:33 PM
Deal with it, swarthy and dark pigmentation means "Gypsy look" Gypsy form for average Hungarians.

no.

try harder

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:33 PM
Dear Elijah, You are from a minority inhabited territory, whith strange weird look people. Deal with it, that many ethnic Hungarians recogize you as a gypsy look man.

Sacrificed Ram
12-17-2014, 08:34 PM
She looks nice, but not European. Even in Brazil she would not be considered as white.

Realy I can say it is true. She resembles a lot our mulatto derivative girls. Her forehead...

I think the most close to her is some gracile-med, not a typical gypsy look, but reminds something some bollywood celebrities.

I know pontids have great capability to tan their skin color with sun because russian turists, but her eyes, lips, aren't typical for pontids.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 08:34 PM
Dear Elijah, You are from a minority inhabited territory, whith strange weird look people..No.

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:36 PM
Elijah93's new nick-name is "Mr. Gypsy look".

Stears
12-17-2014, 08:37 PM
No.
Mr. Gypsy look,
You have black hair and brown eyes, so the Hungarian phrase: "gypsy look" is fine and perfect for you. Csihadj le cigány kölyök, és tűrd el hogy Magyarországon téged cigánynak néznek sokan a haj szem és bőrszíned miatt.

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 09:39 PM
I have never seen girl in Croatia with this type of pigmentation to be of Croat descent.
Except for summer tan.

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/croatiangirlss28e60fvhb.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net) :naughty2:


what serbian and bosnians are you talking about? there aren't any.

look at this photo, all the girls are hungarian. Edina doesn't look foreign at all, now stop stupid propaganda. At beauty contests they prefer the exotic looking girls.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10403869_801475236559118_5570196902129964827_o.jpg

Beautiful girls. To be honest, the blondes look definitely more atypical for Hungarians.

Borna
12-17-2014, 09:52 PM
http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/croatiangirlss28e60fvhb.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net) :naughty2:



Beautiful girls. To be honest, the blondes look definitely more atypical for Hungarians.

Where were these pictures taken ? And can't you see it is either solarium or summer tan. I repeat, in area where i live i failed to see such persons, and as well when i traveled across Croatia.

As you can see there is a sing with two letter "LL". We do not use such thing in Croatia, they must be gast arbeiters mixed with God know's whom in diaspora.


Shame on idiots who try to portray Hungarians as some gypsy horde, calling every animal Hungarian regardless of her ethnicity.

This girl is not Hungarian, ende.

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 09:56 PM
Where were these pictures taken ? And can't you see it is either solarium or summer tan. I repeat, in area where i live i failed to see such persons, and as well when i traveled across Croatia.

As you can see there is a sing with two letter "LL". We do not use such thing in Croatia, they must be gast arbeiters mixed with God know's whom in diaspora.


Shame on idiots who try to portray Hungarians as some gypsy horde, calling every animal Hungarian regardless of her ethnicity.

This girl is not Hungarian, ende.


Well, and in the end, Edina is also just tanned, but still less than these croat girls :rolleyes:

Sacrificed Ram
12-17-2014, 09:58 PM
The main discussion ins't about her skin color, even her metrics is unusual for a central european, she fits better in mediterranean bassin.

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 10:00 PM
The main discussion ins't about her skin color, even her metrics is unusual for a central european, she fits better in mediterranean bassin.

Never heard that Hungarians are just Central European people. They are mixed, like most people in that special area between central and southeast Europe are, not to mention their ancestries...

robar
12-17-2014, 10:07 PM
Well, and in the end, Edina is also just tanned, but still less than these croat girls :rolleyes:
3 months constant sunbathing in the summer and I look like a gypsy:D

Wunderkind
12-17-2014, 10:17 PM
3 months constant sunbathing in the summer and I look like a gypsy:D

Oh oh robar, bad news, than you must have some other ancestry like romanian (because they are MUCH more swarthy) or you are jewish, OR you actually ARE a gypo, but you hide you true identity, cause TRUE hungarians cannot look like that, haven't you heard? :rolleyes:

Sacrificed Ram
12-17-2014, 10:18 PM
Never heard that Hungarians are just Central European people. They are mixed, like most people in that special area between central and southeast Europe are, not to mention their ancestries...

I need travel to such places, but if she is distant from a central european, imagine from an almost boreal finno-ugrics/uralics.

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:03 AM
Never heard that Hungarians are just Central European people. They are mixed, like most people in that special area between central and southeast Europe are, not to mention their ancestries... The difference between most germanic people (except English and Netherlenders) and Hungarians is the higher ratio of mongoloid haplogroup markers in germanic people (It is true for slavic people too). See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic CHART of European nations: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:06 AM
:naughty2: Beautiful girls. To be honest, the blondes look definitely more atypical for Hungarians. I think real natural blond is atypical for adult germans too. I lived in Germany for 2 years, therefore you can't say what you want.

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 06:07 AM
The difference between most germanic people (except English and Netherlenders) and Hungarians is the higher ratio of mongoloid haplogroup markers in germanic people (It is true for slavic people too). See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic CHART of European nations: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Who is more woggish? Hungarians or Germanics?

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:14 AM
Who is more woggish? Hungarians or Germanics? Which type of germanics? Danish and Scandinavians and netherlanders are blond nations, however blondes are only minority in other germanic speaking nations.

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:18 AM
Unlike you, we Hungarians do not speak an asian origin adopted lingua-franca dealer-language like IE languages. IE languages were first used originally by asian swarthy people.

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 06:21 AM
Which type of germanics? Danish and Scandinavians and netherlanders are blond nations, however blondes are only minority in other germanic speaking nations.

All Germanic nations except maybe Austria are clearly and significant lighter(in either both hair colour and eye colour) than Hungary

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 06:22 AM
Unlike you, we Hungarians do not speak an asian origin adopted lingua-franca dealer-language like IE languages. IE languages were first used originally by asian swarthy people.

IE languages were first used by Aryans on the Pontic steppe in Europe. Their type was Corded Aryan which was light pigmented

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:23 AM
All Germanic nations except maybe Austria are clearly and significant lighter(in either hair colour or eye colour) than Hungary Wrong. You have never been in European countries.

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 06:25 AM
Wrong.

Right.

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:26 AM
Right. You live in your fantasy world.

Stears
12-18-2014, 06:27 AM
English people southern Germans Austrians Swiss are not really lighter.

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 06:28 AM
English people southern Germans Austrians Swiss are not really lighter.

Prove it

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:05 AM
Prove it Average: English people:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cardiff-city.jpg http://www.pri.org/sites/default/files/story/images/RTX12W4W.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1009329_10151528343238505_883451985_o.jpg http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/416769/tottenham-hotspur-fans-ignored-warnings-not-chant-yid-pic-reuters.jpg

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 08:11 AM
Average: English people:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/cardiff-city.jpg http://www.pri.org/sites/default/files/story/images/RTX12W4W.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1009329_10151528343238505_883451985_o.jpg http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/416769/tottenham-hotspur-fans-ignored-warnings-not-chant-yid-pic-reuters.jpg

City Crowds have lots of immigrants and they still are lighter than Hungarians.

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:33 AM
City Crowds have lots of immigrants and they still are lighter than Hungarians. Wrong. Engléand is not lighter than Hungary.

1940 anthropology estimation (collection from the estimations of various national anthropology measures) See England: (Eye color)

http://thesocietypages.org/graphicsociology/files/2009/01/westernparadigm_blue_eye_color_map.jpg

HAir color

http://uclahealthservices.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hair_color_map_europe.png

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:34 AM
Southern Germans

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4aXDAwIglUo/UfN2J5MRXTI/AAAAAAAACpI/MEes3A6UPgM/s0/Arsenal_London_fans_3840x2160.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/06/1407319831999_wps_2_Bayern_Munich_soccer_play.jpg http://www.tuttosport.com/images/2014/05/17/2014_05_17t174034z_836323952_lr2ea5h1d3cep_rtrmadp _3_soccer_germany_59030_immagine_ts673_400.jpg http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/80/Public_Viewing_Olympiastadion_Muenchen_2.jpg http://polpix.sueddeutsche.com/polopoly_fs/1.964613.1355845369!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/900x600/image.jpg http://sjus.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/20120622-201625.jpg http://s2.portal.muenchen.de/media/va/bg/volksfeste_festivals/bildergalerien/impark09_theatron_bilder/img/18_2/18-2.jpg http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/55a3291b567ccf1b590f6a706700767e.jpg

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:35 AM
Do not count the women's colored dyed hair, concentrate only on men.

FeederOfRavens
12-18-2014, 08:35 AM
Wrong. Engléand is not lighter than Hungary.

1940 anthropology estimation (collection from the estimations of various national anthropology measures) See England: (Eye color)

http://thesocietypages.org/graphicsociology/files/2009/01/westernparadigm_blue_eye_color_map.jpg

HAir color

http://uclahealthservices.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hair_color_map_europe.png

Ridiculous maps that have been posted over and over again. Even on those maps England is much lighter.

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:43 AM
Ridiculous maps that have been posted over and over again. Even on those maps England is much lighter. Wrong. It is anthropology map. Please calculate the population density (Southern England have the highest density even in 1940) , However Western Hungary (Transdanubia) have the highest pop density in Hungary, the ratios are even better for Hungary.

Stears
12-18-2014, 08:53 AM
The americans and australians - who have never been in European countries - have the most stupid ideas about pigmentation.

blogen
12-21-2014, 10:00 PM
I think Blogen theories are absurd, 20% of Hungarians can't have gypo admixture.

5-10%

Fakirbakir
12-25-2014, 06:25 PM
Illés is also a Jewish family name in Hungary, See the text from the ELTE University (PAGE - 42) : https://edit.elte.hu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10831/8811/ne34_4t%C2%A0.pdf?sequence=1

No, "Illes" isn't a Jewish last name, nor "Kulcsar". They are Hungarian names. The vast majority of the Hungarian Jews had German surnames, though some Magyarized Jews adopted Hungarian names.

Guapo
12-25-2014, 06:27 PM
concentrate only on men.
We're not all gay like you

Stears
12-25-2014, 06:33 PM
5-10% As blogen stated: he consider automatically everybody Hungarian who have Hungarian passport and ID-card.

Stears
12-25-2014, 06:35 PM
No, "Illes" isn't a Jewish last name, nor "Kulcsar". They are Hungarian names. The vast majority of the Hungarian Jews had German surnames, though some Magyarized Jews adopted Hungarian names. Oh really? How about this: http://mnytud.arts.unideb.hu/nevtan/ne/szamok/31/ne3106ft.pdf

Fakirbakir
12-25-2014, 06:42 PM
Oh really? How about this: http://mnytud.arts.unideb.hu/nevtan/ne/szamok/31/ne3106ft.pdf

Some Jews -mostly in Budapest- adopted Hungarian surnames (Koltai, Kulcsar, Kertesz etc...) . But, this fact does not change anything. These names are not Jewish surnames. Ethnic Hungarians can bear the same names.

Stears
12-25-2014, 06:53 PM
Some Jews -mostly in Budapest- adopted Hungarian surnames (Koltai, Kulcsar, Kertesz etc...) . But, this fact does not change anything. These names are not Jewish surnames. Ethnic Hungarians can bear the same names. You live in a fantasy world. They are typical non-hungarian artificial adopted names from the 20th century.

Sacrificed Ram
12-25-2014, 06:57 PM
In the original Ratatouille (Ratatosk) Pontid composite, they looked something "tanned", but He said for me it could be because photo quality, cam light, etc.
http://i42.tinypic.com/nxuhvs.jpg
For me it is just a variation of med.

Fakirbakir
12-25-2014, 07:00 PM
You live in a fantasy world. They are typical non-hungarian artificial adopted names from the 20th century.

Hungarian (Kulcsár): occupational name for a wine butler, treasurer, caretaker, warder, or keeper of keys, from a derivative of kulcs ‘key’, a southern Slavic loanword.

(Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, 2013)

Stears
12-25-2014, 07:04 PM
Hungarian (Kulcsár): occupational name for a wine butler, treasurer, caretaker, warder, or keeper of keys, from a derivative of kulcs ‘key’, a southern Slavic loanword. (Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, 2013) It is not "Southern" slavic http://www.szokincshalo.hu/szotar/? It is not a Hungarian family name. Forexample Kolompár Orsós Kalányos typical gypsy names in Hungary. Hiába adoptáltak magyar jelentésű szót, ettől ez még nem lesz Magyar etnikumra jellemző családnév. Kulcsár is a modern artificial name.

Fakirbakir
12-25-2014, 08:23 PM
Look, "Kulcsar" is an occupational surname similarly to "fazekas" (potter), "acs" (carpenter), "komuves" (mason), "kovacs" (blacksmith), "meszaros" (butcher), "pasztor" (shepherd), "halasz" (fisherman), "timar" (tanner), "szucs" (skinner) etc..... you cannot relate them to ethnicities.

A lot of gypsies bear the name of "Kolompar" (metalsmith), however it's a Hungarian occupational surname.

Stears
12-25-2014, 08:28 PM
Look, "Kulcsar" is an occupational surname similarly to "fazekas" (potter), "acs" (carpenter), "komuves" (mason), "kovacs" (blacksmith), "meszaros" (butcher), "pasztor" (shepherd), "halasz" (fisherman), "timar" (tanner), "szucs" (skinner) etc..... you cannot relate them to ethnicities. A lot of gypsies bear the name of "Kolompar" (metalsmith), however it's a Hungarian occupational surname. Every occupational names did not became automatically Hungarian names. There are no Kulcsár Kertész Halász names amongst ethnic Hungarians. Forexample Kovács (Smith) is an international gypsy name in Europe, even in England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%28surname%29

Borna
12-25-2014, 08:28 PM
Why do you guys always lose any battle with Stears ?

Stears
12-25-2014, 08:44 PM
http://epa.oszk.hu/01200/01259/00029/pdf/belivek_21-23.pdf

AZ ELSŐ OLDALON: kOLOMPÁR RÉZMŰVES LAKATOS NEVEK CIGÁNY NEVEK.

Fakirbakir
12-25-2014, 08:57 PM
http://epa.oszk.hu/01200/01259/00029/pdf/belivek_21-23.pdf

AZ ELSŐ OLDALON: kOLOMPÁR RÉZMŰVES LAKATOS NEVEK CIGÁNY NEVEK.

These names come from Hungarian, however due to the Gypsy lifestyle in the past mostly Gypsies were named by them.

blogen
12-25-2014, 09:31 PM
These names come from Hungarian, however due to the Gypsy lifestyle in the past mostly Gypsies were named by them.

Stears is not Hungarian, s/he not understand the origin and the structure of the Hungarian names. He do not know for example, that the Kolompár name originated from the kolompol (hits a thing what pealing on a deep sound) verb and he do not know, that we constitute many names with the "r" suffix. The Kolompár was a typical medieval Hungarian name.

Borna
12-25-2014, 09:39 PM
Stears is not Hungarian, s/he not understand the origin and the structure of the Hungarian names. He do not know for example, that the Kolompár name originated from the kolompol (hits a thing what pealing on a deep sound) verb and he do not know, that we constitute many names with the "r" suffix. The Kolompár was a typical medieval Hungarian name.

Why you keep saying he is not Hungarian?

Stears
12-25-2014, 09:39 PM
Stears is not Hungarian, s/he not understand the origin and the structure of the Hungarian names. He do not know for example, that the Kolompár name originated from the kolompol (hits a thing what pealing on a deep sound) verb and he do not know, that we constitute many names with the "r" suffix. The Kolompár was a typical medieval Hungarian name.you are an anti-hungarian minority from hungary. Kolompar is a gypsy name. Every names related to metal works are gypsy names. You are not master of the Hungarian language.

Unome
12-25-2014, 09:41 PM
She looks more like Miss Turkey?

blogen
12-25-2014, 09:49 PM
Why you keep saying he is not Hungarian?

He had problems with the proper expression and he not understand enough deeple the Hungarian lingual things. For example he do not know, that the average names of the Gypsies are not Gypsy names, but common Hungarian names also and lot of other fine details. Presumably he is a Slovakian or Romanian nationalist, who live in a Hungarian environment where he learnt the Hungarian language very well and because some unknown reason, he trolling the Magyars here.

Stears
12-26-2014, 06:03 AM
He had problems with the proper expression and he not understand enough deeple the Hungarian lingual things. For example he do not know, that the average names of the Gypsies are not Gypsy names, but common Hungarian names also and lot of other fine details. Presumably he is a Slovakian or Romanian nationalist, who live in a Hungarian environment where he learnt the Hungarian language very well and because some unknown reason, he trolling the Magyars here. A man with black hair short stature brown monkey eyes like you wide head speak about romanian ancestry? Laughable. All Kolompár are gypsies. Type in google image searcher "Kolompár" . You can found gypsy people and gypsy minority leaders. https://www.google.com/search?q=kolomp%C3%A1r&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IgidVJSVPIHyUv-4g6gL&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=1008

Stears
12-26-2014, 06:17 AM
This ignorant blogen spoke about medieval names ..... Moreover the monkey-boy blogen is unable to understand that only town citizens and noble families had family names in Medieval and Early modern Europe. Villagers had no family names until the 18th century. So this proletarian boy did not go to grammar school, so it is not surprising that he do not know about that basic historical fact.

just
12-26-2014, 11:59 AM
Magyars...:rolleyes: