Black actors cast as Norse gods in Thor movie...

[BlueEyedBeast]

So apparently they've just cast Tadanobu Asano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadanobu_Asano) as one of the Warriors Three, and Idris Elba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idris_Elba) as Heimdall.

Ok, I know this is based on the Marvel's Thor, but come on!

[Psychonaut]

As both a Heathen and a comic book collector I'm quite disappointed.

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/son_i_am_disappoint.gif

[Eldritch]

Some Marvel movies have been good, or at least not disappointing from a fan's perspective. Others have been awful. Looks like this one will go in the latter category. I doubt that I'll be personally offended by this though, I never was a big fan of the Avengers or Thor solo stories.

But ....


Director: Kenneth Branagh

WTF ?!? Is he doing this for money, so he can go back to making Shakespeare films?

[Rusalka]

WTF ?!? Is he doing this for money, so he can go back to making Shakespeare films?

Maybe. Expect Thor to turn to the camera at some point during the movie and start soliloquizing for half an hour.

[Eldritch]

Expect Thor to turn to the camera at some point during the movie and start soliloquizing for half an hour.

Can't say I'm looking forward to that. Especially when delivered by this guy in a blonde wig, while wielding a plastic Mjölnir:

http://briannarama.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/chris-hemsworth.jpg

[Beorn]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4578

It's just a film. Be more upset when they include a black in a real life interpretation of Thor and the Gods.
As it is, I see no harm in allowing one black into the cast. What's the problem? It's just one black person. :)

[Lars]

w00t. Heimdall is called the White God.
In the eddic poem Þrymskviða it says: "Then Heimdall spoke, whitest of the Æsir."

[~°2012°~]

Are you surprised? Its Hollywood, the biggest race-destructionist propaganda machine in the modern world. I have also noticed how "norse mythology" is increasingly being given the face of the enemy in Hollywood movies and all things relating to "Vikings" mocked.

[Cato]

It's the Japanese guy who played Genghis Khan! And some black guy as Heimdall? WTH?

Oh well, it's Hollyweird.

[Fintorah]

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/8385header_banner5160752.jpg
It's bad enough they have a pair of jewesses (Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings) playing the vixens in Marvel's new Thor movie, based off of the infamous Norse/Germanic god... we were lucky enough it didn't fall into the hands of Israeli producer Avi Arad like so many American pop culture phenomena already have. If you still don't think the Jewish lobby controls most sectors of mass media, you are more mistaken just as much as you'd be about Quarantino's Inglourious Basterds (produced by the Jewish Weinstein brothers) and Spielberg's productions (any blockbusters about the almost 2 dozen million Soviet deaths as a result of WWII?). I could go on and on about this, but, onto what I consider the real outrage, and what no one's allowed to talk about (deleted threads on IMDb abound!).

The typical "big tough black guy" role has once again been integrated completely ineptly into historically white characters. It's not as if I'm nitpicking here; I don't mind a black character that fits into a movie, and has a purpose related to his person; but here, it's just pointless diversification and, in my opinion, detraction from what European/white culture we have left.

Get this...
Samuel L. Jackson is the new Nick Fury...
Traditional Nick Fury:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/nickfury007.jpg
Samuel L. Jackson:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/is-samuel-l-jackson-cool.jpg
and Idris Elba is Heimdall, aka "The White God", described as "the whitest of the gods" (now it's racist to use "white" as a compliment)...
Traditional Heimdall:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/Heimdall.jpg
Idris Elba:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/idriselba.jpg

On top of this, they managed to cast the least Nordic-looking blond guy in the world to play the role of Thor himself, another if not the most prominent Norse god. For the main character, was it really so hard to find a decent Nordic actor? Chris Hemsworth looks Irish-Celtic at best.
Hemsworth:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/113994-chris-hemsworth-gets-enterpr.jpg
A younger Dolph Lundgren, or even British actor Paul Bettany could have pulled off the look better.
Paul:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/paul-bettany-20060103-95212.jpg

Oh well... say goodbye to any respect of your heritage as the oppressive mass media marches on! Did I mention the director of this new Hollywood money-hog is Kenneth Branagh, who was also an actor in "Valkyrie" and Holocaust dramatization, "Conspiracy" (both of which were nominated and won multiple awards), among other anti-racialist (aka anti-white) productions? Can't imagine what possessed him to direct this movie in this fashion.

[The Khagan]

Yep, because Marvel comics are a credible source for history anyway, right? :rolleyes:

[Lars]

I don't even care. I've always found comics ridiculous and I've really only encountered them in American films, so that they found a monkey ape to play the whitest of the gods fits perfectly.

(Good thing my handle on this forum is not Hejmdal anymore). :D

[Fintorah]

Yep, because Marvel comics are a credible source for history anyway, right? :rolleyes:

Still, this is something we read growing up... one of the classic, and few remaining pieces of European culture left in American media. This is Hollywood we're talking about doing its spin on things. This is now what people will know Thor as for generations to come. All I can hope for is a remake that does it justice. God knows no Hollywood blockbuster lasts a decade before a bigger-budget remake or knockoff takes its place.

[Fintorah]

Since Thor is often depicted as as tall as The Hulk in the comics, it seems Hemsworth is much too small too. Here are a few pics of the 6'5" Swedish (Nordic) Dolph Lundgren. In his younger days he would have made a perfect cast.
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/20061006lundgren.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/rocky-4.jpg

[The Khagan]

Ok, you invent a time machine, and we'll go get Showdown in Little Tokyo era Dolph.

Who cares, it's Marvel comics, like they were going to stick to mythic standards.

Also, as if Anthony Hopkins couldn't get anymore bad ass, he's been casted as Odin.

[Hrimskegg]

Also, as if Anthony Hopkins couldn't get anymore bad ass, he's been casted as Odin.

As Anthony Hopkins once said in Beowulf, "Praise Odin!"

[Pallantides]

Still, this is something we read growing up... one of the classic, and few remaining pieces of European culture left in American media. This is Hollywood we're talking about doing its spin on things. This is now what people will know Thor as for generations to come. All I can hope for is a remake that does it justice. God knows no Hollywood blockbuster lasts a decade before a bigger-budget remake or knockoff takes its place.
If it was a movie about Norse Mythology I might have cared, but
Marvel Thor has nothing to with European culture.

Peter Madsens Valhalla> Marvel "Thor"
http://files.myopera.com/attilasoul/blog/valhalla1.jpg

[Eldritch]

Actually there have been Marvel Comics series in which Fury's been portrayed as black, or perhaps Arabic (hard to tell).

I'll tell you one thing, though: the presence of the repulsive S. L. Jackson is quite enough for me to boycott this film. Like I said before in another thread here, some Marvel movies have been excellent, some acceptable if not great, and some have been awful (think Daredevil of the Fantastic Four). It seems there's less and less reason to think this one won't go straight into the last category.

Not that that is a huge loss, since it's more or less impossible to make film that deals with Norse mythology and avoid screams of "racism" anyway.

[Beorn]

Actually there have been Marvel Comics series in which Fury's been portrayed as black, or perhaps Arabic (hard to tell).


Ultimate Nick Fury

Main article: Ultimate Nick Fury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury)
In the Ultimate Marvel Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Marvel_Universe), General Nick Fury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury) is African American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American), with his look and personality tailored after actor Samuel L. Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_L._Jackson). This was done with the actor's explicit permission.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury#cite_note-samueljackson-29) Jackson also played Nick Fury in the 2008 film Iron Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_%28film%29) (appearing in a post-credits scene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-credits_scene)) and will reprise the role in the sequel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2).[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury#cite_note-30)

[Eldritch]

Right.

I recall an X-Men continuum (The Tomorrow People/Return to Weapon X) in which Fury was portrayed as a slender, light-skinned Arab/Mulatto. Not that that is a matter of life and death, anyway. ;)

[Beorn]

Right.

I recall an X-Men continuum (The Tomorrow People/Return to Weapon X) in which Fury was portrayed as a slender, light-skinned Arab/Mulatto. Not that that is a matter of life and death, anyway. ;)

I sorta recall what you mean. I was in Waterstones a while back and picked up a Wolverine annual, and remember a scene where Wolverine was talking with Nick Fury about having to kill a certain mutant, perhaps Bruce Banner?, and there was two women hidden behind a screen, one of whom had been intimate with Banner at some point.

It did cross my mind that Nick Fury looked darker than usual in those scenes, but (and it sounds silly to say it), I put it down to bad lighting :laugh:

Perhaps Lei.talk will be able to shed some light on that one.

[Matritensis]

Much worse in my opinion was the portrayal of Persians as blacks in the movie 300.

[Amapola]

Much worse in my opinion was the portrayal of Persians as blacks in the movie 300.

A bit off-topic but...

EVEN much worse is when Russell Crowe (gladiator/Maximo) said in an interview that he would imitate Antonio Banderas' accent to sound like a perfect Hispano-Roman.

:eek:

:wink

[Crux]

Lol who cares, maybe they will pimp out the black guy to look white with cg or some other shit. It's just a comicbook-movie anyway, it's not like they are shooting some real norse myth or something like that.

[Peachy Carnahan]

I think Danny de vito would would be great for the role of Thor....a curly blonde wig and away you go.

[Cail]

I don't think Lundgren would be the best to play Thor, he isn't "atmospheric" enough. He's good for playing boxers or commandos, but not gods :D.

Someone like this would be perfect imo -

http://media.port-network.com/picture/instance_2/83759_2.jpghttp://www.dnevkino.ru/img/names_vkulich.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6190/buliwyf25.jpg


Btw funny contrast with Banderas :D:

http://img.afisha.ru/Afisha7Files/UGPhotos/090322112744/090323122235/p_f.jpg

[Pallantides]

A Slav as a Nordic god...now that is blasphemy.:p

[Majar]

It's bad enough they have a pair of jewesses (Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings) playing the vixens in Marvel's new Thor movie

Oh, come on, Thor would tap that IRL.


Idris Elba is Heimdall, aka "The White God", described as "the whitest of the gods" (now it's racist to use "white" as a compliment)...
Traditional Heimdall:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/Heimdall.jpg
Idris Elba:
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/idriselba.jpg

I like seeing minorities portraying positive role models in films. :D


For the main character, was it really so hard to find a decent Nordic actor?

Uh, yes. Do you know of any actor off the top of your head who approximates Nordic looks + an impressive God-like build? Lundgren is kinda old. Paul Bettany is too skinny. Thor has to be a bad ass with a robust body.

I hope you're not serious that Marvel comic book characters are one of the few remaining pieces of European culture left in American media. How does it have anything to do with European culture? These movies don't even do well at the box office anymore, especially not a lesser known comic such as Thor.

[Cail]

A Slav as a Nordic god...now that is blasphemy.:p

It's a common IE god. At least Slavs, Balts and Celts have ~exactly the same one (Romans and Greeks were slightly different, lightning&thunder domains being absorbed by the main god of the pantheon (the "father-god"). Slavic version had an axe instead of the hammer though :D.

[Falkata]

Much worse in my opinion was the portrayal of Persians as blacks in the movie 300.

Well, 300 is based on a comic too, so it´s not the director´s fault :p

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/xerxes-300.jpg

[Cato]

It's a comic book and comic books have always catered to public opinion and societal expectations. Marvel is a company that's all about making lots and lots of money, it's also hardly a paragon of historical and literary accuracy, so what's to be surprised about when it nerfs on the mythology by making Heimdall into a black guy? Would you rather it have been Thor himself?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2297/2655041310_666c34e00d.jpg

[lei.talk]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/First_Ultimate_Fury.jpg

we continue to catalogue these dis-continuities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury). :tsk:


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/94029-49356-nick-fury_super.jpg


homage to the master-visionary
http://www.boblayton.com/Art%20Gallery/Art%20Gallery%2043/nickfury.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Steranko)
*

[RoyBatty]

Black actors cast as Norse gods in Thor movie..

Hollywood Zionists also typically cast blacks as scientists and women as aggressive masculine warriors! Wonder how these action darlings would react to being treated as "male equals" in the real world where they won't be able to hide behind the Rainbow Coalition to protect them? :rolleyes:

Just goes to show that most people are sheep and all that is needed to control > 90% of them is a TV set, a Preacher Man and a Holocaust / Terrorism Fairytale Compendium.

[Freomæg]

On top of this, they managed to cast the least Nordic-looking blond guy in the world to play the role of Thor himself, another if not the most prominent Norse god. For the main character, was it really so hard to find a decent Nordic actor? Chris Hemsworth looks Irish-Celtic at best.
While I agree with the rest of your post, I don't get this. Chris Hemsworth looks perfectly Germanic, and actual textbook Nordids are and probably always have been a minority even in Scandinavia. If you think Chris Hemsworth looks Irish-Celtic at best, then you must think someone like me looks Sicilian at best - despite being of full Celto-Germanic blood. :coffee:


EVEN much worse is when Russell Crowe (gladiator/Maximo) said in an interview that he would imitate Antonio Banderas' accent to sound like a perfect Hispano-Roman.
What's wrong with this? Am I missing something? :confused:

[Cato]

Out of Boss Nigger or black Heimdall, I think I'd prefer to watch the Boss beat up whitey.

http://www.grindhousedatabase.com/images/00006bossnigger_1.jpg

[Amapola]

While I agree with the rest of your post, I don't get this. Chris Hemsworth looks perfectly Germanic, and actual textbook Nordids are and probably always have been a minority even in Scandinavia. If you think Chris Hemsworth looks Irish-Celtic at best, then you must think someone like me looks Sicilian at best - despite being of full Celto-Germanic blood. :coffee:


What's wrong with this? Am I missing something? :confused:

Hispanos spoke Latin not (Spanish).

[Jägerstaffel]

Since Thor is often depicted as as tall as The Hulk in the comics, it seems Hemsworth is much too small too. Here are a few pics of the 6'5" Swedish (Nordic) Dolph Lundgren. In his younger days he would have made a perfect cast.
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/20061006lundgren.jpg
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/kingdededede/rocky-4.jpg

Lundgren doesn't have the Thor look.

Where's the great red beard?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Ring16.jpg

[Grey]

Lundgren doesn't have the Thor look.

Where's the great red beard?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Ring16.jpg

Maybe Sam Beam then?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Sambeam-brooklyn-2006.jpg

[hereward]

I do have a problem with this, my favourite idiom applies, give an inch......
Fantasy will lead to history.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Funny, it is considered 'racist' for white actors to play nonwhite characters http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies/breakfast-at-tiffanys

[The Khagan]

Welcome to political correctness double standards. Not something new.

Who cares, I know what my ancestors worshiped. Like Marvel and Hollywood will change that ideal.

[Groenewolf]

Lundgren doesn't have the Thor look.

Where's the great red beard?

Such a great beard on short notice might be a bit hard. But he still could in theory let his beard stand for such a movie.

[Freomæg]

Hispanos spoke Latin not (Spanish).
Well I feel like an idiot now ;). Forgot to turn my brain on.

[Fintorah]

Funny, it is considered 'racist' for white actors to play nonwhite characters http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies/breakfast-at-tiffanys

To make matters worse, who's on the front page of that hypocritical website?
A Jew, Michelle Trachtenberg, and a black guy...then on the next slide, Asians and mixed-race black people...then after that, a black "model" and a really ugly blond guy...then, Soulja Boy and a link to the "White Rapper Encyclopedia"...then on the next slide, Alison Brie, another Jew...I mean, come on...I have nothing against the individuals, but this site is about as racist as it gets if you want to play the race card the same way they do.

But, then again, what else could you expect from an "urban" commercial franchise?

[Loddfafner]

If it wasn't for the campaign of white nationalists whining about the demographics of Thor's casting, the film would never have come to my attention and I would never have wasted an evening at such a cheesy, low-brow movie.

Anyways, now that I have seen it, I think the racialists would approve: a minor character is a Negro doorman.

[alexandra]

If it wasn't for the campaign of white nationalists whining about the demographics of Thor's casting, the film would never have come to my attention and I would never have wasted an evening at such a cheesy, low-brow movie.

Anyways, now that I have seen it, I think the racialists would approve: a minor character is a Negro doorman.

don't forget the asian "friend".

[StonyArabia]

When has Hollywood has ever done a realistic depiction of mythology or historical events. They do it just for shock and entertainment value.

[_______]

If it wasn't for the campaign of white nationalists whining about the demographics of Thor's casting, the film would never have come to my attention and I would never have wasted an evening at such a cheesy, low-brow movie.

Anyways, now that I have seen it, I think the racialists would approve: a minor character is a Negro doorman.

soooo cheesy! :eek:

[Peyrol]

Also in the Gladiator, they have already made an ​​absurd historical mistake to make Juba, the companion of gladiator Maximus, as black.
Because the Numidian weren't blacks, but Hamites.

Why not put a white Nelson Mandela, then?

[Aces High]

Who would actually pay to go and see such utter drivel anyway...?

[Lithium]

This is the reason why I will never watch the movie. It looks ridiculous with that nigger...

[Sol Invictus]

"Hollywood only has one story left. From The King’s Speech, to Thor, to Avatar, we’re just seeing the same movie over and over again. Aristocracy, identity, pride, and hierarchy must be humbled in the sacred name of equality."

http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/zeitgeist/the-god-that-failed/


This is a very perceptive review that I just came upon. I am pleasantly surprised that the author of it has seen through the hype to see that the King's Speech was about debasing Kingship. And to see that it is part of wider context in Hollywood (eg, Thor, Avatar, etc) is genius.

[Sikeliot]

Colorblind casting only works one way. You'd never see a stereotypical white girl being cast as a Latina (even though there ARE white Hispanics) or as a black character.

[Kazuma]

It's only a film based on a marvel comic, not a representation of Edda... :P

[Midori]

Colorblind casting only works one way. You'd never see a stereotypical white girl being cast as a Latina (even though there ARE white Hispanics) or as a black character.

Disney's first Latina princess looks white.. (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/19/showbiz/disneys-first-latina-princess/index.html)

[Sikeliot]

Disney's first Latina princess looks white.. (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/19/showbiz/disneys-first-latina-princess/index.html)

I know, but see if Cameron Diaz ever gets a role as a Hispanic..