Ladies: Natural birth or caesarian section?

[Kazimiera]

In my country about 80% of the births are by elective caesarian section because women are too lazy to give birth, don't want to be stretched or it just doesn't fit in with their busy schedules. Doctors also prefer c-sections because it means they can have a nice weekend or holiday without being called out to a woman in labour. The demand for a natural delivery is low. Some gynaecologists like to do natural deliveries and encourage their patients to do so, whereas the majority will do an elective caesar even if there are no medical indications for it.

Which would you choose for yourself?

[Peikko]

I can personally recommend caesarian.

[Kazimiera]

I can personally recommend caesarian.

Really? How many c-sections have you had? ;)

[Peikko]

Really? How many c-sections have you had? ;)
Only one, but it was enough to get me out.

[Kazimiera]

Only one, but it was enough to get me out.

LOL.

Good one. :lol:

[Immortal Technique]

Natural sound better.

[Kazimiera]

Natural sound better.

Thank you for the contribution but I'm more interested to hear from ladies. :D

[Catkin]

80% is really high! In 2011-12 in England it was about 10%, including those who were recommended to have one because of having underlying health problems or having needed an emergency one previously. I don't think it is really a choice most women here would consider in a normal pregnancy. The decision here would more likely be whether to have pain relief or to go for a completely natural birth.

[Dombra]

Actual women have yet to answer here but I recommend the natural way. I was born natural and look how fine I turned out to be :)

[Catkin]

Actual women have yet to answer here but I recommend the natural way. I was born natural and look how fine I turned out to be :)

I hope you just hadn't seen my post when you wrote that! :P

[Smaug]

80% is really high! In 2011-12 in England it was about 10%, including those who were recommended to have one because of having underlying health problems or having needed an emergency one previously. I don't think it is really a choice most women here would consider in a normal pregnancy. The decision here would more likely be whether to have pain relief or to go for a completely natural birth.

You are such a strong woman.

[Dombra]

I hope you just hadn't seen my post when you wrote that! :P

Don´t worry, I did not see your post ;D

[Kazimiera]

80% is really high! In 2011-12 in England it was about 10%, including those who were recommended to have one because of having underlying health problems or having needed an emergency one previously. I don't think it is really a choice most women here would consider in a normal pregnancy. The decision here would more likely be whether to have pain relief or to go for a completely natural birth.

Most people here have private medical insurance. The medical insurance will pay for elective c-sections even if they are not medically indicated. This means that the upper class who can afford medical insurance mostly have babies by c-section and the lower classes who don't have medical insurance only have caesars if it is medically indicated.

I feel that if a woman is capable of giving birth naturally she should do so. It forms part of the bonding process. It is the way nature intended it to be.

[Catkin]

You are such a strong woman.

I think it's easy to be stoic about giving birth when you haven't actually done it yet! I'd probably be screaming for drugs :p. But thanks.

[Kazimiera]

I think it's easy to be stoic about giving birth when you haven't actually done it yet! I'd probably be screaming for drugs :p. But thanks.

Of course. And then they cry like little girls when they have to pee out of few kidney stones. :D

[Catkin]

Most people here have private medical insurance. The medical insurance will pay for elective c-sections even if they are not medically indicated. This means that the upper class who can afford medical insurance mostly have babies by c-section and the lower classes who don't have medical insurance only have caesars if it is medically indicated.

I feel that if a woman is capable of giving birth naturally she should do so. It forms part of the bonding process. It is the way nature intended it to be.

I see. Yes it seems a shame to have surgery for what should be natural if it can be helped. I know some women here are upset when they're told they need to have a c-section, because they wanted the bonding process of natural birth. I personally know of only one woman who had a planned c-section, and that was for medical reasons. Maybe it's more common in some circles of society here though?

[Smaug]

Of course. And then they cry like little girls when they have to pee out of few kidney stones. :D

Ach! That's the worst pain in the world.

[Cristiano viejo]

Many times it is not an option. If the baby comes in a bad position, for example, the caesarean is the only alternative.

[Catkin]

Many times it is not an option. If the baby comes in a bad position, for example, the caesarean is the only alternative.

Yes, you're right of course. Sometimes it is completely necessary. But then I don't think it would be counted as an elective but more an emergency c-section. I think Kaz was meaning more the women who plan to have a c-section ahead of time just as a preference.

[vibrant_]

This is a toss up for me. All of the women in my family have given birth naturally and their bodies have bounced right back... Part of me wants to push out my future baby but it scares me so I might end up getting a cesarian

[Dictator]

Most people here have private medical insurance. The medical insurance will pay for elective c-sections even if they are not medically indicated. This means that the upper class who can afford medical insurance mostly have babies by c-section and the lower classes who don't have medical insurance only have caesars if it is medically indicated.

I feel that if a woman is capable of giving birth naturally she should do so. It forms part of the bonding process. It is the way nature intended it to be.

Sorry Kazi, I'll have to disagree with you. We, humans, don't follow the exact "rules of Nature" that our ancestors did.
There are people today that don't die when they should. We created medicines and surgeries and various other things that aren't meant to exist in the "natural world". C-section is still a surgery, and I don't think how it can affect the bonding process if the mother can still interact with the baby. Women shouldn't feel obliged to feel the pain of birth just because it's "nature", tbh. C-section exists and makes life easier, and shouldn't be condemned, even if some mothers still want to do it in the old way.

[rhiannon]

Really, the only opinions that matter in this discussion are the opinions of those who've actually birthed children, or who are currently pregnant and facing the prospect of childbirth in their near future. Sorry, but until you've been in or are going to be in the situation yourself, you have no rational basis from which to make your assessment.

That said....the fact I had my son by scheduled csection (I had many complications and risk factors that would have made for a disastrous vaginal birth) probably saved my life...and his, too. Try spitting out a 10.5lb baby when you're 40 and see how well that goes for ya:laugh:

[Dictator]

Really, the only opinions that matter in this discussion are the opinions of those who've actually birthed children. Sorry, but until you've been in the situation yourself, you have no rational basis from which to make your assessment.

That said....the fact I had my son by scheduled csection (I had many complications and risk factors that would have made for a disastrous vaginal birth) probably saved my life...and his, too. Try spitting out a 10.5lb baby when you're 40 and see how well that goes for ya:laugh:

I came from the insides of a woman so I think I can talk 'bout it because I was there. :cool:

[Aviator]

A big problem is that people are having children at older ages. Not that this is inherently bad, but women are better suited for a natural birth when they are young.

[Harley]

I labored for 6-7 hours before the doctor deemed it too dangerous for the both of us for me to keep trying for natural. Procedure took about 30 minutes and I snored loudly through the whole process.

Caesarean took forever for me to heal from. I had to stop taking the pain meds second day so I could be mobile faster and breast feed.

About 3-4 months for the bleeding to stop completely from the wound.

Another year or so before I stopped feeling the cut.

Should I ever do this again, trying for natural. The odds I can pull that off are low.

[Oneeye]

Women can be induced for labor without resorting to a caesarean. I think there is another driving factor for it....

[random]

No anal birth ?

[Also]

Natural birth whenever possible is the best way.

[rhiannon]

A big problem is that people are having children at older ages. Not that this is inherently bad, but women are better suited for a natural birth when they are young.
This is true, and I can attest to having undergone a horrendous natural birth experience with my 9lb daughter back when I was 19. It seems I do not have the best pelvic shape for dropping out babies, and so my babies are turned posteriorly at presentation. This is very bad during labor as it brings about back labor.....the WORST kind. It's what I had with my daughter....and they wouldn't medicate me because she had decels during the laboring process.

While physically it is harder to birth children when you're older, mentally, emotionally, and psychologically, parenting as an older parent is oftentimes going to be more beneficial to the child. I am a much better parent today than I was all those years ago with my daughter. I damn well should be by this age, or else I've not grown at all as a person.

With all that said, my recovery from my son's csection was rapid, and my son was born absolutely perfect :). He had a mild case of transient tachypnea of the newborn which resolved itself in a matter of hours.

[Farah]

I love children but I find pregnancy as a wholeto be a horrifying process. :icon_sorry:

Isn't C-section supposed to be more painful afterwards during recovery?

I would support natural birth (w/help of drugs) over induced c-section.

[VictriX]

My mother has a CS, and that is the one l gave my voice to. I'm not a child-lover and, moreover, one who suffers from variuos health and mental problems. I'm not going to have a child. But I think CSs are less risky. That's why it was my choice in the poll.

[Dandelion]

I love children but I find pregnancy as a wholeto be a horrifying process. :icon_sorry:

Isn't C-section supposed to be more painful afterwards during recovery?

I would support natural birth (w/help of drugs) over induced c-section.

My mother birthed me naturally without the help of drugs. I know her to have a high pain tolerance. Such a heroine.

[Queen B]

Natural birth unless there is risk/health problems.

[Meina]

My first I had in hospital. I didn't know any better. It was heavily managed unnecessarily. There was no need. I was not high-risk. I was bullied into medications and pain relief that I didn't need.

For my second I had a mother-daughter team of midwives. I had her at home, in a tub of water without pain meds. It scared me at first but I have never felt so strong and capable before. She was born so quick, and perfectly healthy. Soon after she was born we were curled up in our own sheets, in our own bed. It was bliss in comparison.

[Cloudberry]

I definitely prefer natural birth over C-section. The latter should be considered only if there's a necessity for it.

Reasons why I prefer it natural:
- it's natural. Enough said.
- baby comes into contact with different bacteria while passing birth canal and it's good for baby's immune system (thus less allergies etc);
- passing birth canal helps to squeeze extra fluid from baby's lungs and clear them after being delivered, thus less respiratory problems.
- being able to breastfeed immediately after birth;
- quicker recovery time;
- the experience itself.

[Bobby Martnen]

If she is married, it should be her husband's decision.

If she is pregnant out of wedlock, it should be her father's decision.

[StevenTylerAerosmith]

c section is a trash birth technique for trash women

[Meiv]

C -section is the best way.Nearly 0% injuries for the baby and the mother.We are not in the stone age anymore.StevenTylorAerosmith, you’re talking nonsense.

[Regnera]

I didn't vote,but if natural birth is not very painful I'll vote it

[nittionia]

I've had pain worse than childbirth in my life... but I would just do what my doctor recommends. I don't know the pros and cons of each option but I'm open to either.

[Ayetooey]

I had c-sections for my first two sprogs. 3rd time I thought "well, 3rd times a charm" and luckily the baby just flew out.

[Faklon]

I don't know the pros and cons of each option but I'm open to either.

Here's an idea (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4555060/)
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Neonates born via elective cesarean section have a higher risk of respiratory complications such as respiratory distress syndrome or transitory tachypnea of the newborn (e76, e80). As a rule, the symptoms tend to be mild and self-limiting, although many babies have to be admitted to a neonatal ward for short-term observation.

Studies have now also investigated long-term medical effects of cesarean section. Interestingly, an association was found between cesarean section and the occurrence of autism (e82), bronchial asthma (e4, e5), type 1 diabetes mellitus (e6), various food allergies (e66), and allergic rhinitis (e4, e7). Although some possible pathophysiological explanations have been postulated, causality has yet to be definitively proven and is the subject of much controversy in specialist medical circles (e83).

Another complication that can occur after cesarean section is difficulty with breast-feeding (e84, e85). However, there are inconsistencies between the numerous studies that have now been carried out, as some of them report no association between cesarean section and breast-feeding (e84, e86– e88), whereas others show a clear negative effect (e89, e90). Probably a role is played by the delay to mother–child interaction caused when the child has to be admitted to a neonatal unit, or due to their spatial separation. However, this delayed mother–child relationship appears to have no influence on the frequency or duration of breast-feeding after discharge from hospital (e91), especially if the mother receives enough advice and support after the cesarean (e87, e92– e96).

[Finnish Swede]

Like most of time in life ... I support ''natural way'' ... and that fits here too. If I'll need painkillers ... I'll take those. I might be small, but I'm tough creature.

(Only in special (risk) case I will consider something else.)