classify a mountain Tajik

[Proto-Shaman]

http://www.pamirs.org/images/other_people/images/abubakir's_father.jpg

[ButlerKing]

Turanid Mongoloid with dark skin.

[blogen]

Zero Turanid in him, he is a Pamirid basically.

[Jinn]

Turanid + another Mongoloid race (admix)

[ButlerKing]

Zero Turanid in him, he is a Pamirid basically.

Do you mean Mongoloid Pamirid or Caucasoid pamirid?


You said that Pamirid is a very Europoid race. I'm wondering what you mean..

[blogen]

Median part of the Pamirid spectrum between the dominantly Europid and Mongoloid parts.

[ButlerKing]

Median part of the Pamirid spectrum between the dominantly Europid and Mongoloid parts.

So you think he looks predominately Europoid?

He face looks about as Mongoloid as this old Vietnamese man if it weren't for his nose ( well you can even find pure mongoloid with noses like that man too )

http://haroldspierenburg.nl/blog/wp-content/images/Vietnam/Old_man_Vietnam-Tam-Coc-Ninh-Binh.jpg

[barbatus]

Turanid + Mongoloid. Predominately mongoloid.

[blogen]

So you think he looks predominately Europoid?

No, He is Median Pamirid, halfway between the Mongoloid and Europid Pamirids.

[ButlerKing]

No, He is Median Pamirid, halfway between the Mongoloid and Europid Pamirids.

And I'm telling you he looks almost nothing like Europoid pamirids.

How can you claim a man looks half way when almost no different to a pure Mongoloid man. Maybe he is 3/4 Mongoloid + 1/4 Europoid.

[Eusocial]

Aged Mongol type with somewhat projecting nose and reduced jaw area. Could be slight Alpine or other Europid or similar admixture.

Doubtful this guy looks like an ancient Mede. Their capital was Ectebana and they were less mixed than the Persians. Hard to know, but Medes were more likely somewhere in an Armenid-Nordindid range, maybe with some of the Orientalid or Alpine admixture found there too.

Mongols came in much later.

[blogen]

And I'm telling you he looks almost nothing like Europoid pamirids.

How can you claim a man looks half way when almost no different to a pure Mongoloid man. Maybe he is 3/4 Mongoloid + 1/4 Europoid.

Then you wrong. The angular form of his head, the huge hooked nose, etc., etc. Basically he is a Taurid with epicanthic fold.

[Cern]

Primary Mongoloid + with Taurid nose.

[ButlerKing]

Then you wrong. The angular form of his head, the huge hooked nose, etc., etc. Basically he is a Taurid with epicanthic fold.

I've seen many Tibetan with more larger, more huge hook nose than this guy, and their skin just as dark or even darker.
So a Taurid with epicanthic fold = a Mongoloid appearance?


I don't know how you classify people but there is almost nothing that is caucasian about that Tajik man and 0% Caucasian in these Tibet.

http://www.greensos.cn/uploadFiles/2009-07/1246457118687.jpg
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/tibetan-man-27805006.jpg
http://www.lhsa.org/gallery/images/fullsize/gallery_622.jpg

[ButlerKing]

Primary Mongoloid + with Taurid nose.

I seriously doubt that. His nose looks about the same as this guy

http://gdb.voanews.com/7177AE35-B562-4376-B0F1-C58F6DDBD0F0_w640_s.jpg

[ButlerKing]

Makes no sense to me.

[Proto-Shaman]

I seriously doubt that. His nose looks about the same as this guy

http://gdb.voanews.com/7177AE35-B562-4376-B0F1-C58F6DDBD0F0_w640_s.jpg
This nose is very often seen in typical Turanid Turks. But blogen of course knows always "better" ;)

[blogen]

I've seen many Tibetan with more larger, more huge hook nose than this guy, and their skin just as dark or even darker.
I don't know how you classify people but there is almost nothing that is caucasian about that Tajik man and 0% Caucasian in these Tibet.

These are straigth noses. The old Tajik has convex nose.


So a Taurid with epicanthic fold = a Mongoloid appearance?

:picard2:

It was a conceit.

[Faklon]

That's how I want to imagine blogen but doubt it really.

[blogen]

This nose is very often seen in typical Turanid Turks. But blogen of course knows always "better" ;)

Yep. And finally a real Turanid! :)

A close sample (Mongolo-Andronovo):
http://s27.postimg.org/8en2xcffj/mongolo_andronovo_turanid_3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8en2xcffj/)

[blogen]

That's how I want to imagine blogen but doubt it really.

I am close to this sample (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?122476-Turanid-examples&p=2839553&viewfull=1#post2839553):

http://s27.postimg.org/qnsh5j5lr/turanoid_33.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qnsh5j5lr/)

But I am taller with 4,8 cm. Interesting, but my hazel eye color and brown/dark brown hair color is similar, but my orbit is deeper, more Cromagnoid like.

[Proto-Shaman]

Yep. And finally a real Turanid! :)

A close sample (Mongolo-Andronovo):
http://s27.postimg.org/8en2xcffj/mongolo_andronovo_turanid_3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8en2xcffj/)
Real Turanid doesn't exist.

Some more examples of that nose:

Kyrgyz
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5103/5633849077_5d10aba233_b.jpg

Kazakh
http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/25137/489021.jpg
http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/25130/460125.jpg
http://s0.i-news.kz/illustrations/b/d6/4b/59/1355372827-197.jpg
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49792&d=1407520765

Uzbek
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49793&d=1407520867
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49794&d=1407520993
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49793&d=1407520867

[blogen]

Real Turanid doesn't exist.

No, except that few millions...

Mongolo-Turanids: ~14 million
~10 000 000 Kazahs
~1 000 000 various Tatars
~3 000 000 other Turkic (mostly Central Asian)
~100 000 Hungarians
~250 000 other nation

Europo-Turanids: ~10 million
~3 000 000 Hungarians
~2 000 000 various Tatars
~5 000 000 other Turkic (mostly Anatolian)
~250 000 other nation

[Proto-Shaman]

No, except that few millions...

Mongolo-Turanids: ~14 million
~10 000 000 Kazahs
~1 000 000 various Tatars
~3 000 000 other Turkic (mostly Central Asian)
~100 000 Hungarians
~250 000 other nation

Europo-Turanids: ~10 million
~3 000 000 Hungarians
~2 000 000 various Tatars
~5 000 000 other Turkic (mostly Anatolian)
~250 000 other nation
You didn't get my point, ain't you?

[blogen]

You didn't get my point, ain't you?

No.