Classic Greeks

[Awesomedy]

What would the classic Greeks be classified as taxonomy?

[barbatus]

Yeah, man. I love me some vintage Greeks.

[Awesomedy]

Yeah, man. I love me some vintage Greeks.
I'm just saying what would they be before the Ottoman Empire?

[Sikeliot]

I'm just saying what would they be before the Ottoman Empire?

Ottomans had 0 impact genetically.

Pontid, Alpine, Dinarid and Cromagnid. The swarthy types are however the descendants of Anatolian and Pontic refugees so the population exchange did have some influence.

[Insuperable]

Hellenas in 3...2...1

[Tacitus]

What I'm curious about is what Constantinopolitan Greeks looked/look like. Or are they the same as Anatolian Greeks?

[Insuperable]

http://i58.tinypic.com/9lfml0.png

THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki):

"The Greeks at a rate of 99.5% are Caucasians (white). The contribution to the genetic makeup of the Greeks from other groups is of a minimal percentage (less than 0.5%)."

http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece

Greeks are not WIDELY mixed with their neighbors.
http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/102/updated-greeks-widely-mixed-neighbors

Greeks look Greek, Ancient Greeks:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?123113-website-with-ancient-Greek-images

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/pictures/ancientgreekmen/

[Hellenas]

The swarthy types are however the descendants of Anatolian and Pontic refugees so the population exchange did have some influence.

Nope.

http://www.bruisedandbattered.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/greekboxing.jpg
Children boxing in a fresco on the island of Santorini.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/17/14/0f171443d0f26a5b102231677fe6ab6d.jpg
Mycenaean Greek Art

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gm09NM-S02g/TcZTrSZRy4I/AAAAAAAAAMc/m855xgbNw7U/s1600/tarentumman.bmp
A Greek man from Taras/Tarentum(Italy)

Swarthy Greeks were always here. The Anatolian Greek refuges and Pontians had among them a small number of swarthies but Greece always had them too. By the way, Pontians are one of the lighter Greek groups, sometimes other Greeks call them as Rosso-Pontians(Russian-Pontians).

[Hellenas]

@Solin :thumb001:

[Sikeliot]

LOL Pontians light? They look like Iranians.

[Hellenas]

LOL Pontians light? They look like Iranians.

:rotfl:You are hilarious, sorry, you know nothing about Pontians.

Typical Pontians:

http://www.kilkis24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/pontioi-kilkis.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y4lC7jz9AAI/Tx-7xn0g_yI/AAAAAAAADy4/eAtEUjqdP-Q/s1600/%25CE%2591%25CE%2593%25CE%259F%25CE%25A1%25CE%2599 %25CE%2591+peak+IMG_8386.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3SZSwpFDNOc/Tu1gZHEQMMI/AAAAAAAAFpE/vaxZEFmMJf4/s1600/%25CE%259A%25CE%259F%25CE%25A1%25CE%2591%25CE%25A3 %25CE%2599%25CE%2594%25CE%2595%25CE%25A3_pontioi_k ilkis.jpg

http://trikkipress.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/pontioi.jpg

I didn't say all Pontians are lighter, just some of them, usually, they are not.

By the way, typical Iranians:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/17/article-1193650-0561C018000005DC-946_634x411.jpg

[Sikeliot]

The ones above look like a mixture of Slavic and Caucasian.

[Casandrinos]

What I'm curious about is what Constantinopolitan Greeks looked/look like. Or are they the same as Anatolian Greeks?

Diverse

They resemble Anatolian,Pontic and Northern Greeks.

[Hellenas]

The ones above look like a mixture of Slavic and Caucasian.

Nope. They don't look Baltid or north Pondid, neither caucasid, they look Medish, Mediterranid and Alpinid.

http://www.athensmagazine.gr/photos/articles/thumbs_large/77b1f9b39afff4c8905b55cee1181c3e.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JWWmdyfjz0U/maxresdefault.jpg
What the Greeks call as Rosso-Pontian

http://www.iliatora.gr/files/news/5782_ph1.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAMnnDz6eBvwBbxHgr0k849nNiiJlB_ Aet6lpVIpKIFLl2yainSw
Armenian looking Pontian

Greeks are not racists, perhaps some Pontians are mixed, but they are still our brothers.

[Faklon]

Nope. They don't look Baltid or north Pondid, neither caucasid, they look Medish, Mediterranid and Alpinid.

Define Medish.

[Hellenas]

Define Medish.

Βrunette(dark haired, dark eyed) people that can be found mainly in south Europe.

[Faklon]

Βrunette(dark haired, dark eyed) people that can be found mainly in south Europe.

Twra swthikes.

[Arch Hades]

Well they would be given no taxonomy by today's physical anthropologists....since today's physical anthropology discredits the idea of distinct taxa.

But old school physical anthropology it depends on who's system you're using.

IMO If we were to go by say William J Ripley;s original "Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean" they'd be a blend of all three with Mediterranean utterly predominant.


Examples from ancient Pompeii

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3886731021_ac4d90d347.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/archaeology/1/S/Y/1/1/BattleofIssus333BC-mosaic-detail1.jpg