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KeinMitleid
08-09-2014, 05:28 PM
What are your opinions on the Yezidi tribe? They have a very interesting culture and if anyone could provide me with some deeper information regarding their religion and/or cultural traditions that would be great.

ASSYRIAN_Libra
08-10-2014, 10:05 PM
They will say that they're closer to Assyrian PEOPLE, and their religion is mixer of old Assyrian/Mesopotamian religion. The Kurds try to kurdish-fied them.

Yehiel
08-10-2014, 10:05 PM
i know they are being killed right now

EyeOfTheTiger
08-10-2014, 11:06 PM
They will say that they're closer to Assyrian PEOPLE, and their religion is mixer of old Assyrian/Mesopotamian religion. The Kurds try to kurdish-fied them.
you mean a mixture of zoroastrianism, sufism and islam basically.

ASSYRIAN_Libra
08-10-2014, 11:25 PM
you mean a mixture of zoroastrianism, sufism and islam basically. Yes, and Christianity.

In their religion you can see the Mesopotamian influence

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/peacock1(1).jpg

gültekin
08-10-2014, 11:35 PM
Yes, and Christianity.

In their religion you can see the Mesopotamian influence

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/peacock1(1).jpg
that is Tavus, the most beloved angel by Yezidi's . others (jews christians muslims) calling hem the Satan

Eusocial
08-10-2014, 11:43 PM
There is a strange thread in the Yezidi religion, about Malek. He sounds like a general who rebelled against a bad king or system. His rebellion was idealistic but caused a break in the society. Malek repented for the evil he caused and sought to make things right again for the creator.

What is so interesting about Yezidi is that they deny the Zoroastrian dualism. They say all principles were in harmony in the beginning of things.

It is an interesting myth. The idea that even evil can redeem itself.

askra
08-10-2014, 11:47 PM
They are not different culturally by islamic integralists, they are both barbaric and savage societies.

They usually stoning people, included helpless girls: (if u sensitive don't watch this video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiLbWG9bUJ4&bpctr=1407715902

Eusocial
08-10-2014, 11:55 PM
Some Yezidi say the stoning incident was set up by non-Yazidis to encourage Islamist aggression against their people.

Yezidis have some of the last traces of the original Iranian/Aryan (proper) paganism, with veneration of the sun, return (immortality) of spirit, purifying nature of the elements, etc. They are in danger of extinction if ISIS forces them all to convert.

Their homes are mostly near mountains because they have been attacked before, like the Zoroastrians etc. They are the last trace of something from a long time ago. Part of a part.

ASSYRIAN_Libra
08-11-2014, 12:23 AM
that is Tavus, the most beloved angel by Yezidi's . others (jews christians muslims) calling hem the Satan

Yes, but the Akkadian cuneiform script is in the image. As I was saying, they feel the connections with Assyrian in some way. Under the feet of the peacock looks like the Assyrian cross with the star.

KeinMitleid
08-11-2014, 02:19 AM
There is a strange thread in the Yezidi religion, about Malek. He sounds like a general who rebelled against a bad king or system. His rebellion was idealistic but caused a break in the society. Malek repented for the evil he caused and sought to make things right again for the creator.

What is so interesting about Yezidi is that they deny the Zoroastrian dualism. They say all principles were in harmony in the beginning of things.

It is an interesting myth. The idea that even evil can redeem itself.

There almost seem to be vague similarities between their religion and modern Luciferianism/Gnosticism.

Eusocial
08-11-2014, 02:22 AM
There almost seem to be vague similarities between their religion and modern Luciferianism/Gnosticism.

Only from an America-centric pop culture point of view they filters all human culture through the reductionistic prism of consumer memes. As if history only happened insofar as it appears to stock brokers or advertising executives.

The real Yezidi connection is with Mesopotamian and European indigenous folk religion. And with the ancient history of the Kurds and their homeland.

Ars Moriendi
08-22-2014, 04:28 PM
The Guardian posted a quick description about Yezidism a couple of weeks ago. For what I can gather, it's mostly accurate.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/who-yazidi-isis-iraq-religion-ethnicity-mountains
Who are the Yazidis?

Estimates put the global number of Yazidis at around 700,000 people, with the vast majority of them concentrated in northern Iraq, in and around Sinjar.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/7/1407437037334/7651fdad-e1ad-49e4-8451-06c67a968d27-378x420.png

A historically misunderstood group, the Yazidis are predominantly ethnically Kurdish, and have kept alive their syncretic religion for centuries, despite many years of oppression and threatened extermination.

The ancient religion is rumoured to have been founded by an 11th century Ummayyad sheikh, and is derived from Zoroastrianism (an ancient Persian faith founded by a philosopher), Christianity and Islam. The religion has taken elements from each, ranging from baptism (Christianity) to circumcision (Islam) to reverence of fire as a manifestation from God (derived from Zoroastrianism) and yet remains distinctly non-Abrahamic. This derivative quality has often led the Yazidis to be referred to as a sect.

At the core of the Yazidis’ marginalization is their worship of a fallen angel, Melek Tawwus, or Peacock Angel, one of the seven angels that take primacy in their beliefs. Unlike the fall from grace of Satan, in the Judeo-Christian tradition, Melek Tawwus was forgiven and returned to heaven by God. The importance of Melek Tawwus to the Yazidis has given them an undeserved reputation for being devil-worshippers – a notoriety that, in the climate of extremism gripping Iraq, has turned life-threatening.

Under Ottoman rule in the 18th and 19th centuries alone, the Yazidis were subject to 72 genocidal massacres. More recently in 2007, hundreds of Yazidis were killed as a spate of car bombs ripped through their stronghold in northern Iraq. With numbers of dead as close to 800, according to the Iraqi Red Crescent, this was one of the single deadliest events to take place during the American-led invasion.

The Yazidis had been denounced as infidels by Al-Qaida in Iraq, a predecessor of Isis, which sanctioned their indiscriminate killing.

Vian Dakhil, a Yazidi MP in Iraq, broke down in tears on Wednesday, as she called on the parliament and the international community to “Save us! Save us!” from Isis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHQCPF9Bz44

Researcher Cale Salih (@callysally) interviewed the Yazidis’ spiritual leader Baba Sheikh for the New York Times last month. She wrote:


The rise of Islamic fundamentalism more broadly has pushed thousands of Yazidis to seek asylum in Europe. According to some estimates, 70,000 people, or about 15% of the Yazidi population in Iraq, fled the country. For a religion that does not accept converts and strongly discourages exogamy, the assimilation of Yazidi youth in Europe threatens the faith’s continued existence. “People have gone out of fear of attacks or fear of racism. This makes it hard to protect the faith,” said Baba Sheikh. [...]

For the past several years, Baba Sheikh, the Yazidis’ spiritual leader, tells me he has canceled the official yearly religious ceremony at Lalesh temple, the holy site of the Yazidis, out of fear of attacks.

Lalesh has reportedly been turned into a refuge for internally displaced Yazidis.

Ars Moriendi
08-22-2014, 04:29 PM
Only from an America-centric pop culture point of view they filters all human culture through the reductionistic prism of consumer memes. As if history only happened insofar as it appears to stock brokers or advertising executives.

The real Yezidi connection is with Mesopotamian and European indigenous folk religion. And with the ancient history of the Kurds and their homeland.

Very well said. Sometimes it's hard for me to follow the principle of "Good Words" towards Americans.

While Yezidis might not be Zoroastrian, I do find their own religion to be colourful and worthy of more study (I know I could improve my knowledge about them).

Transhumanist
08-22-2014, 09:00 PM
They will say that they're closer to Assyrian PEOPLE, and their religion is mixer of old Assyrian/Mesopotamian religion. The Kurds try to kurdish-fied them.

From the autosomal results of the handful of Yezidis that have tested their DNA, it is quite apparent that they are genetically Kurdish.