View Full Version : Europeans: what's your Asian admixture on K13?
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 11:11 AM
I will accept Gypsies and other Caucasians including Armenians, Turks, and Berbers as European for these purposes as I am interested in all of them.
Asian admixture = East Asian, Siberian, and Amerindian, which for me is 0.56%, 1.27% and 0.52%, for a total of 2.35%.
Just interested to see what is common among Europeans. I don't score at all for Oceanian and South Asian so I'm assuming this score (especially Siberian) is reflective of some actual admixture.
Thrax
08-12-2014, 12:00 PM
0.56 in total
gold_fenix
08-12-2014, 12:12 PM
1.87%
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 03:35 PM
0.56 in total
Are you a pure Greek?
Thrax
08-12-2014, 05:14 PM
Are you a pure Greek?
Yes, from north Greece mainly
portusaus
08-12-2014, 05:18 PM
Red Sea 1.88%
South Asian 4.08%
Amerindian 0.22%
Total 6.18%
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 05:23 PM
Red Sea 1.88%
South Asian 4.08%
Amerindian 0.22%
Total 6.18%
Thanks.
I wouldn't include South Asian with the other three. I'd count the other three as Mongoloid and of course South Asian is practically Caucasoid. You don't score any Siberian or East Asian, do you? Not that I'd expect you to as someone of primarily Western ancestry.
That said, 4%+ South Asian would imply you have a recent Subcontinental ancestor.
portusaus
08-12-2014, 06:00 PM
Thanks.
I wouldn't include South Asian with the other three. I'd count the other three as Mongoloid and of course South Asian is practically Caucasoid. You don't score any Siberian or East Asian, do you? Not that I'd expect you to as someone of primarily Western ancestry.
That said, 4%+ South Asian would imply you have a recent Subcontinental ancestor.
That's all the Asian I have on that test. On others I tend to have a minute amount (.15-.74%) of Mongoloid components such as Beringian, Arctic Amerind, Altaic Turkic, and East Euroasian; this should be what is expressed as 'Amerindian' here.
I believe my y-dna to have originated in the Gedrosia region due to what I've learned from my surname's project on ftdna. I always score some on Caucasus, Indo-Iranian, Gedrosian, etc. components- as high as 8.38% 'Caucasus_Gedrosia'. It could very well be common or at least present in populations categorized as South Asian, Oceanian, Austronesian, Indian, Indo-Tibetan and central Asian Mongoloid populations. I don't believe that I have any recent ancestry from any of these populations, rather I share ancient ancestors with the groups tested.
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 06:17 PM
That's all the Asian I have on that test. On others I tend to have a minute amount (.15-.74%) of Mongoloid components such as Beringian, Arctic Amerind, Altaic Turkic, and East Euroasian; this should be what is expressed as 'Amerindian' here.
I believe my y-dna to have originated in the Gedrosia region due to what I've learned from my surname's project on ftdna. I always score some on Caucasus, Indo-Iranian, Gedrosian, etc. components- as high as 8.38% 'Caucasus_Gedrosia'. It could very well be common or at least present in populations categorized as South Asian, Oceanian, Austronesian, Indian, Indo-Tibetan and central Asian Mongoloid populations. I don't believe that I have any recent ancestry from any of these populations, rather I share ancient ancestors with the groups tested.
So v. low mongoloid ancestry. I suppose mine is anomalous, though I am interested in what other [part] Eastern Europeans score.
Nevertheless I am interested in your South Asian score. I always score 0.00% South Asian. It could be if you have coastal English/Welsh ancestry you're descended from an Indian man who married a British woman - in the late 1700s/1800s many Indian men travelled across as workers but did not bring women. An ex of mine was 1/16th Indian (6.25%) but you'd never guess from her phenotype, of course. Can you compare versus other Portuguese and Britons?
Albannach
08-12-2014, 06:28 PM
0.80 For me. Siberian 0.31 Amerindian 0.59
Gauthier
08-12-2014, 06:39 PM
Red Sea 1.88%
South Asian 4.08%
Amerindian 0.22%
Total 6.18%
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Catkin
08-12-2014, 06:40 PM
I will accept Gypsies and other Caucasians including Armenians, Turks, and Berbers as European for these purposes as I am interested in all of them.
Asian admixture = East Asian, Siberian, and Amerindian, which for me is 0.56%, 1.27% and 0.52%, for a total of 2.35%.
Just interested to see what is common among Europeans. I don't score at all for Oceanian and South Asian so I'm assuming this score (especially Siberian) is reflective of some actual admixture.
I get:
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.64%
Amerindian 0.25%
= 0.89%
alfieb
08-12-2014, 06:45 PM
South Asian - 0.67%
East Asian - 0.0%
Siberian - 0.0%
Amerindian - 0.0%
Oceanian - 0.0%
gold_fenix
08-12-2014, 06:46 PM
without south asian mine is 1.46%
sonofthedutch
08-12-2014, 07:03 PM
0% For all three.
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 08:02 PM
So far all the respondents have had minimal mongoloid but have all come from Southern or Western Europe. I'd be interested in respondents from Eastern and Northeastern Europe.
Damião de Góis
08-12-2014, 08:34 PM
West_Asian 4.28%
Red_Sea 2.18%
South_Asian 0.37%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Guapo
08-12-2014, 08:36 PM
So far all the respondents have had minimal mongoloid but have all come from Southern or Western Europe. I'd be interested in respondents from Eastern and Northeastern Europe.
are you trying to hurt people's feelings here? :cry
Longbowman
08-12-2014, 10:05 PM
are you trying to hurt people's feelings here? :cry
Yes.
Patches
08-13-2014, 12:03 AM
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.29%
Amerindian 0.56%
= 0.85%
Sehnsucht
08-13-2014, 01:05 AM
Me: 3.00%
Mom: 2.88%
Aunt: 2.16%
Uncle: 2.30%
Maternal Gran: 1.68%
Paternal Gramp: 0.90%
I also think we should consider adding South Asian as well
Sehnsucht
08-13-2014, 01:07 AM
That said, 4%+ South Asian would imply you have a recent Subcontinental ancestor.
My grandpa has 4% South Asian. "Recent" as in how far back are you talking?
Longbowman
08-13-2014, 01:10 AM
My grandpa has 4% South Asian. "Recent" as in how far back are you talking?
3-5 generations.
Sehnsucht
08-13-2014, 01:13 AM
3-5 generations.
So one of my grandpa's grandparents might be a gypsy?
Longbowman
08-13-2014, 01:14 AM
So one of my grandpa's grandparents might be a gypsy?
Quite possibly.
Stanley
08-13-2014, 02:33 AM
Me Sister
East_Asian - -
Siberian 0.26% 0.98%
Amerindian 1.96% 1.20%
---
2.22% 2.18%
I haven't been able to confirm whether my Amerindian is recent or ancient. Although 1.96% seems quite high, two things suggest it's not "real": 1) I get no Asian on 23andMe, and 2) my sister has a similar Asian admixture score but it's distributed across both Amerindian and Siberian. It still could be real though.. Either way it's high for a NW European.
Sehnsucht
08-13-2014, 02:40 AM
Quite possibly.
What if the other Asian percentages (West Asian, Red Sea,) are low and he has no South Asian on 23andMe?
Black Wolf
08-13-2014, 03:30 AM
Mine.
East Asian:0.40
Siberian:1.53
Amerindian: 1.17
Total: 3.1
I do also score 1.15% Oceanian and 1.31% South Asian. West Asian and Red Sea are not really East Eurasian oriented at all.
Raven_
08-13-2014, 04:48 PM
3.06%
gold_fenix
08-13-2014, 05:07 PM
Jaxman 3,1
Raven 3,06
Herr Hesselink 3
Mom Herr Hesselink 2,88
Longbowman 2,35
Uncle Herr Hesselink 2,3
Stanley 2,22
stanley sister 2,18
Aunt Herr Hesselink 2,16
Potusaus 2,1
Maternal Gran Herr Hesselink 1,68
gold_fenix 1,46
Paternal Gramp Herr Hesselink 0,9
catkin 0,89
patches 0,85
Albanach 0,8
alfieb 0,67
thrax 0,56
sonofthedutch 0
alexdelarge 0
Longbowman
08-13-2014, 05:34 PM
Jaxman 3,1
Raven 3,06
Herr Hesselink 3
Mom Herr Hesselink 2,88
Longbowman 2,35
Uncle Herr Hesselink 2,3
Stanley 2,22
stanley sister 2,18
Aunt Herr Hesselink 2,16
Potusaus 2,1
Maternal Gran Herr Hesselink 1,68
gold_fenix 1,46
Paternal Gramp Herr Hesselink 0,9
catkin 0,89
patches 0,85
Albanach 0,8
alfieb 0,67
thrax 0,56
sonofthedutch 0
alexdelarge 0
We can thus assume this isn't 'ancient admixture' as most of the high-scorers have Northern or Eastern ancestry.
Graham
08-13-2014, 05:37 PM
We can thus assume this isn't 'ancient admixture' as most of the high-scorers have Northern or Eastern ancestry.
Some Russians, Finns & some Turks can score higher on those.
Jaxman has finnish ancestry.
Longbowman
08-13-2014, 05:40 PM
Some Russians, Finns & some Turks can score higher on those.
Jaxman has finnish ancestry.
He does, I referred to that by saying the high-scorers had Eastern or Northern admixture.
Sehnsucht
08-13-2014, 08:37 PM
That said, 4%+ South Asian would imply you have a recent Subcontinental ancestor.
What about 4%+ South Asian (or South Central) Asian on K36?
Longbowman
08-13-2014, 11:55 PM
What about 4%+ South Asian (or South Central) Asian on K36?
The same. It's a lot. I would say it means you have recent Gypsy or South Asian ancestry.
Oneeye
08-14-2014, 12:22 AM
1.94% - Amerindian
East_Asian - 0.23%
Siberian - 1.05%
Amerindian -
Total: 1.28%
*I was hoping for a higher Siberian/Mongol count, but I wont lose sleep over it.
armenianbodyhair
08-14-2014, 01:11 AM
All it said was ho lee fuk
...
Revision: I score 9% Baltic, does that count as Asian?
Black Wolf
08-14-2014, 01:17 AM
What about 4%+ South Asian (or South Central) Asian on K36?
What is your actual breakdown of East Eurasian (Asian) components? That is your East Asian, Siberian and Amerindian scores? For some reason I do not think you will come to 3 percent if you look at your results for just those 3 components.
Black Wolf
08-14-2014, 01:28 AM
We can thus assume this isn't 'ancient admixture' as most of the high-scorers have Northern or Eastern ancestry.
Polako did an analysis for me before where he found some Siberian/East Eurasian type segments in my autosomal genome which he thinks most likely comes from my Finnish side from old Uralic ancestry.
Raven_
08-14-2014, 06:09 AM
We can thus assume this isn't 'ancient admixture' as most of the high-scorers have Northern or Eastern ancestry.
According to Lazaridis paper, people from my ethnic group are not East-Asian shifted. Amerindian and Siberian scores are simply indicators of relatively high Mal'ta-like ancestry. Your assumption that Asian scores necessarily indicate Asian admixture is incorrect. Your thread is outdated.
Jusarius
08-14-2014, 08:32 AM
Revision: I score 9% Baltic, does that count as Asian?LOL, that's likely the oldest European component of all. Very European-specific.
My Asian scores (Eurogenes K13):
West_Asian 1.55%
South_Asian 1.52%
East_Asian 0.25%
Siberian 8.70%
Amerindian 1.06%
= 13.08 % (Siberian + Amerindian + East Asian = 10.01 %)
And yes, West Asian and South Asian are Asian components. The fact that most Europeans have that admixture doesn't change that. Just as if in the future most Europeans have around 10 % SS African admixture on average doesn't mean it suddenly becomes an European component.
Longbowman
08-14-2014, 10:44 AM
According to Lazaridis paper, people from my ethnic group are not East-Asian shifted. Amerindian and Siberian scores are simply indicators of relatively high Mal'ta-like ancestry. Your assumption that Asian scores necessarily indicate Asian admixture is incorrect. Your thread is outdated.
Mal'ta-like ancestry is still Asian ancestry. Also it doesn't explain why some posters score none or negligible and others score well into the integers. I'm looking at European-wide variations.
Anyhow one paper isn't the be-all and end-all. Furthermore my thread doesn't presuppose anything. I'm just asking for people to post their results.
Longbowman
08-14-2014, 10:44 AM
LOL, that's likely the oldest European component of all. Very European-specific.
My Asian scores (Eurogenes K13):
West_Asian 1.55%
South_Asian 1.52%
East_Asian 0.25%
Siberian 8.70%
Amerindian 1.06%
= 13.08 % (Siberian + Amerindian + East Asian = 10.01 %)
And yes, West Asian and South Asian are Asian components. The fact that most Europeans have that admixture doesn't change that. Just as if in the future most Europeans have around 10 % SS African admixture on average doesn't mean it suddenly becomes an European component.
Yyyyyes buuuut west Asian is Caucasoid. In this case 'European' isn't just a geographical distinction.
Raven_
08-14-2014, 11:55 AM
Yyyyyes buuuut west Asian is Caucasoid. In this case 'European' isn't just a geographical distinction.
So were European Mesolithic hunter-gatherers caucasoid yet they turned out closer to Mal'ta than to Neolithc farmers.
Ibericus
08-14-2014, 12:06 PM
West Asian is caucasoid, and Red Sea also (with some East-African in there), but no mongoloid at all.
Grace O'Malley
08-14-2014, 12:46 PM
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75%
Amerindian 1.38%
2.13
Is that the only ones you want?
I've also got Oceanian of 0.24% but I didn't think that was supposed to be included.
Jusarius
08-14-2014, 12:58 PM
Yyyyyes buuuut west Asian is Caucasoid. In this case 'European' isn't just a geographical distinction.Sigh... You can't say which component is "Caucasian" and which is "mongoloid"! When we are talking about connections that are mostly very ancient, even the direction of gene flow isn't sure or what was the "race" of the donating population. Siberian and Amerindian components are likely remnants of the "Mammoth steppe" Eurasian hunter-gatherers that predated the development of mongoloid features during the last glacial maximum.
By the way, actually the "North European" component in K=8 is the only real European-specific one so... :
http://bga101.blogspot.fi/2012/04/so-whos-most-european-of-us-all.html
Jusarius
08-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Mal'ta-like ancestry is still Asian ancestry.You are contradicting with yourself here. Mal'ta boy wasn't mongoloid. You just said that it isn't about geography. Double standards, huh?
Grace O'Malley
08-14-2014, 01:11 PM
Sigh... You can't say which component is "Caucasian" and which is "mongoloid"! When we are talking about connections that are mostly very ancient, even the direction of gene flow isn't sure or what was the "race" of the donating population. Siberian and Amerindian components are likely remnants of the "Mammoth steppe" Eurasian hunter-gatherers that predated the development of mongoloid features during the last glacial maximum.
Thank you. That is really interesting.
OldWayGuy
08-14-2014, 01:13 PM
12,33% Turkic. Its mean asian or not ? The leftover still the expected.
Longbowman
08-14-2014, 01:24 PM
You are contradicting with yourself here. Mal'ta boy wasn't mongoloid. You just said that it isn't about geography. Double standards, huh?
Mal'ta represented a kind of Eurasian mix.
Jusarius
08-14-2014, 01:28 PM
Mal'ta represented a kind of Eurasian mix.He lived 24 000 years ago. He wasn't a mix of today's European and East Asian lineages. The other way around: both modern populations have a considerable amount of his genes.
All populations with mostly recent hunter-gatherer ancestry have prominent cheekbones which are necessary as robust attachment points for chewing muscles. This doesn't (automatically) mean "mongoloid" ancestry. Mal'ta boy sure was a meat-eater and so were the just as strong-cheeked cro magnons in Europe.
Yehiel
08-14-2014, 01:38 PM
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.43%
Amerindian 0.87%
Oceanian -
= 1.30%
Insuperable
08-14-2014, 02:15 PM
We can thus assume this isn't 'ancient admixture' as most of the high-scorers have Northern or Eastern ancestry.
So, what is ancient for you?
He lived 24 000 years ago. He wasn't a mix of today's European and East Asian lineages. The other way around: both modern populations have a considerable amount of his genes.
This.
Longbowman
08-14-2014, 02:20 PM
So, what is ancient for you?
Well, Easterners get relevant results and Westerners don't. Ancient would be pre-Neolithic I'd say.
South_Asian 0.62%
East_Asian 1.10%
Siberian 0.75%
Amerindian 0.47%
Oceanian 0.43%
Total: 3.37%
I hereby declare myself a Turk.
Insuperable
08-14-2014, 04:45 PM
Amerindian 1.03%
Siberian 0.88%
1.91%
East Asian, Oceanian and South Asian are 0%.
Black Wolf
08-14-2014, 04:51 PM
Hard to say really how relevant scores below 1% for these components anyways.
Peikko
08-14-2014, 05:02 PM
Cromags weren't caucasoid.
cally
08-14-2014, 05:08 PM
East_Asian 0.18
Siberian 0.16
Amerindian 0.00
LOL, that's likely the oldest European component of all. Very European-specific.
Of course LOL, I was only kidding around because of that whole mongol-baltid connection joke. :D
firemonkey
12-12-2014, 11:06 PM
Red_Sea 1.7
Amerindian 1.11
East_Asian 0.52
Siberian 0.5
South_Asian 0.31
Oceanian 0.19
Vesuvian Sky
12-12-2014, 11:13 PM
0.87%
And its just in the Amerindian category.
(Malta boy not so strongk.)
JoeyGee8688
12-12-2014, 11:25 PM
0.92% Siberian. That's all.
Not a Cop
12-13-2014, 05:44 AM
East_Asian 0.26%
Siberian 2.82%
Amerindian 1.83%
4.91
SwampThing26
12-14-2014, 10:34 PM
South_Asian 3.25
Amerindian 0.62
Siberian 0.44
Stanislav
12-21-2014, 11:17 AM
West_Asian 4.47%
East_Med 3.67%
Red_Sea 1.44%
South_Asian 2.03%
East_Asian -
Siberian 4.67%
total - 16.28%
Russian
Longbowman
12-21-2014, 11:33 AM
West_Asian 4.47%
East_Med 3.67%
Red_Sea 1.44%
South_Asian 2.03%
East_Asian -
Siberian 4.67%
total - 16.28%
Russian
I only count the Siberian as 'Asian' in the Mongoloid sense but thanks.
Stanislav
12-21-2014, 11:45 AM
I only count the Siberian as 'Asian' in the Mongoloid sense but thanks.
I think, to many russians get it not from mongoloids, but from finno-ugric groups, who live in Volga-Ural region before a slavic colonization.
Longbowman
12-21-2014, 11:50 AM
I think, to many russians get it not from mongoloids, but from finno-ugric groups, who live in Volga-Ural region before a slavic colonization.
Either way it's ultimately East Eurasian in origin.
Stanislav
12-21-2014, 12:01 PM
Either way it's ultimately East Eurasian in origin.
Yeas, finno-ugric have a part of East Eurasian. But they are not a clear mongoloids. Fore exampl, Natalya Vodyanova
53546
Tchek
12-21-2014, 12:24 PM
Red_Sea 1.84%
South_Asian 1.88%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.39%
Oceanian 0.35%
Gaston
12-21-2014, 12:33 PM
Red_Sea 1.84%
South_Asian 1.88%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.39%
Oceanian 0.35%
Red Sea is less East Asian-shifted than North European and West Asian.
Jackson
12-21-2014, 01:29 PM
Red Sea is less East Asian-shifted than North European and West Asian.
Yeah i think it's something between Near-Eastern and East African iirc?
Graham
12-21-2014, 01:31 PM
Red Sea is just an extension of East Med really.
Longbowman
12-21-2014, 01:57 PM
Guys, I'm thrilled about your Red Sea scores, but as specified in OP, more looking for Siberian, East Asian and Amerindian scores.
Tchek
12-21-2014, 03:17 PM
oh.
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.39%
0+0+0.39= 0.39
Sizzo
12-21-2014, 03:47 PM
0.19 (East Asian).
Yuffayur
12-21-2014, 04:08 PM
Siberian = 0.94%
East Asian= 0.42%
South Asian = 0.07%
Total : 1.43%
Gaston
12-21-2014, 07:31 PM
Siberian = 0.94%
East Asian= 0.42%
South Asian = 0.07%
Total : 1.43%
MENA people get East Eurasian noise usually.
Longbowman
12-21-2014, 11:18 PM
Poll added.
RighNick
12-21-2014, 11:54 PM
Here are my mother's numbers:
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.42%
Amerindian 0.53%
Total 0.95%
She's British and I voted based on her results. I have confirmed Native American ancestry, so it wouldn't make sense for me to post my results in a thread about Asian admixture in native Europeans. In case anyone is interested, I have about 5% Asian admixture (the bulk of which is predictably Amerindian) on the K13 test.
Yuffayur
12-22-2014, 10:26 AM
MENA people get East Eurasian noise usually.
How we can explain that ? especially for the South Asian.
Gaston
12-22-2014, 10:29 AM
How we can explain that ? especially for the South Asian.
Some Basal Eurasian that is not captured by the Near Eastern component(s).
Yuffayur
12-22-2014, 10:34 AM
Some Basal Eurasian that is not captured by the Near Eastern component(s).
Another question how do you explain the high "african" in Tunisian and Algerian in the last paper of Lazaridis even more than Egyptian ?
Gaston
12-22-2014, 10:50 AM
Another question how do you explain the high "african" in Tunisian and Algerian in the last paper of Lazaridis even more than Egyptian ?
It's not high, it's in line with what we already knew. It's slightly higher than Egyptians because Egyptians are close to the Levant and it seems a lot of them have recent Near Eastern admixture.
Mazik
12-25-2014, 05:42 PM
Siberian: 3.25%
East_Asian: 1.31%
Amerindian: 0.15%
= 4.71%
South_Asian: 1.88%
Oceanian: 0.71%
My grandpas score:
East_Asian 0.53%
Siberian 6.48%
Amerindian 1.73%
= 8.74%
South_Asian 0.56%
Oceanian 0.57%
Stanislav
12-26-2014, 08:03 PM
Siberian: 3.25%
East_Asian: 1.31%
Amerindian: 0.15%
= 4.71%
South_Asian: 1.88%
Oceanian: 0.71%
My grandpas score:
East_Asian 0.53%
Siberian 6.48%
Amerindian 1.73%
= 8.74%
South_Asian 0.56%
Oceanian 0.57%
I think that from Malta boy. Like it is in russian.
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.57%
Amerindian 0.29%
Gooding
12-26-2014, 08:13 PM
Here's the total:
Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the Eurogenes K13 model (rev 21 Nov 2013), created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Kit Number: Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 8.626505e-02 Elapsed Time: 72.36 seconds
Population
North_Atlantic 47.97%
Baltic 24.33%
West_Med 14.79%
West_Asian 5.01%
East_Med 4.12%
Red_Sea 0.92%
South_Asian 0.55%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.00%
Oceanian 0.80%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.51%
My Amerindian is 1.00% and Oceanian 0.80% which is odd, because I'm completely unaware of any potential Polynesian ancestry.
Pjeter Pan
12-26-2014, 08:17 PM
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.27
2 East_Med 22.46
3 West_Med 21.7
4 Baltic 16
5 West_Asian 11.02
6 Red_Sea 2.4
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Oceanian 0.28
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.27
2 East_Med 22.46
3 West_Med 21.7
4 Baltic 16
5 West_Asian 11.02
6 Red_Sea 2.4
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Oceanian 0.28
So you have them all 0 East Asian, Siberian and Amerindian?
My South Asian is 0 :D
Pjeter Pan
12-26-2014, 08:23 PM
So you have them all 0 East Asian, Siberian and Amerindian?
My South Asian is 0 :D
Yea they're all 0
My south Asian comes from my L2, I'm an ancient Punjabi :p
Jägerstaffel
12-26-2014, 08:23 PM
East Asian 0.71%
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.34%
Jackson
12-26-2014, 08:42 PM
Here's the total:
Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the Eurogenes K13 model (rev 21 Nov 2013), created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.
Kit Number: Iteration: 1000 Delta-Q: 8.626505e-02 Elapsed Time: 72.36 seconds
Population
North_Atlantic 47.97%
Baltic 24.33%
West_Med 14.79%
West_Asian 5.01%
East_Med 4.12%
Red_Sea 0.92%
South_Asian 0.55%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.00%
Oceanian 0.80%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.51%
My Amerindian is 1.00% and Oceanian 0.80% which is odd, because I'm completely unaware of any potential Polynesian ancestry.
Northern Europeans fairly often get that much without any Native American or South-east Asian ancestry.
SwampThing26
12-26-2014, 09:08 PM
Northern Europeans fairly often get that much without any Native American or South-east Asian ancestry.
I wonder if you took two Americans of Northern European descent, one who's immigration are more recent and another who's lines are more colonial, if the more recent would have more NA ancestry than the colonial, assuming the colonial hasn't had any mixing with actual Native Americans here in the USA.
Jackson
12-26-2014, 09:10 PM
I wonder if you took two Americans of Northern European descent, one who's immigration are more recent and another who's lines are more colonial, if the more recent would have more NA ancestry than the colonial, assuming the colonial hasn't had any mixing with actual Native Americans here in the USA.
I don't know, but it would be interesting to see! Have to keep an eye on new results from Old and New Worlders (and existing ones).
SwampThing26
12-26-2014, 09:16 PM
I don't know, but it would be interesting to see! Have to keep an eye on new results from Old and New Worlders (and existing ones).
The only reason I wondered is because, for example I am pretty much all Northern European Ancestry from lines who have been here in the US since the early to late 1700's, but I show under 1% of the Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, etc on any calculators. Then there are Northern Europeans who actually live in Europe who show >1% of one or more of these components. Could just be random.
Jackson
12-26-2014, 09:18 PM
The only reason I wondered is because, for example I am pretty much all Northern European Ancestry from lines who have been here in the US since the early to late 1700's, but I show under 1% of the Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, etc on any calculators. Then there are Northern Europeans who actually live in Europe who show >1% of one or more of these components. Could just be random.
Yeah i guess it would be impossible to say for sure if you had Native American ancestry or not with a similar amount, if it was 2-3% on these calcs it would be pretty solid though.
Reith
12-26-2014, 09:34 PM
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.74
2 Baltic 30.99
3 West_Med 10.43
4 East_Med 6.31
5 West_Asian 4.44
6 South_Asian 1.23
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Oceanian 0.69
9 Red_Sea 0.36
gültekin
04-23-2015, 05:42 PM
East_Asian 4.58%
Siberian 6.11%
Amerindian 1.36%
Oceanian 1.02%
= 13.07
Turkey
i didn't vote
Petalpusher
04-24-2015, 01:17 PM
East_Asian 0.38 + Siberian 0.18
0 South Asian & Amerindian
Nehellenia
04-25-2015, 06:38 PM
Siberian 0.81%
Amerindian 1.18%
= 1.99
I also have 0.20% Oceanian for some reason.. but excluded in the result :3
Scandal
07-14-2020, 08:33 AM
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.48 Pct
Amerindian -
Voskos
07-14-2020, 09:01 AM
0.
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