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Vulpix
11-05-2008, 08:34 PM
Now that Obama has been elected as the new president of the USA, I'd like to hear your thoughts on him, and on the scenarios, both negative and positive, that you envisage arising during his term...

Loki
11-05-2008, 08:41 PM
On the surface it looks negative for Americans of European descent, but in the long run, it may well turn out to be not so bad.

The worst thing about Obama is not that he is black, but perhaps that he could implement many leftist policies, which could harm America in the long term.

Obama would probably be less pro-Israel, and in a sense that could be a good thing. The USA has been too good a friend of Israel, fighting its wars for it, to the detriment of Americans. Look at all the war debt the neocons have accumulated.

I'm not an American, and would be interested to hear what Americans think about all this.

SouthernBoy
11-05-2008, 08:54 PM
How does the saying go about it needing to get worse before it can get any better?

In the short term, I'm worried that another "assault weapons" ban is on the horizon. I'm scrambling to fill out my collection. I suggest others do the same. :)

In the long term, I wonder how long a President Obama would last. I'm of the opinion though that the last thing we need is another martyr. Besides, I'm convinced he will be a poor president. After the euphoria of "making history" has run it's course (which I expect will be sooner rather than later), his economic policies will drive us deeper into recession and his perceived weakness will lessen our already waning hegemonic status.

I'm scared to think what world would arise in the aftermath of continued American decline. Will China fill the vacuum? Or will it be India? Will they be as timid about their ethnic interests as white Americans and Europeans have been?

Jimbo Gomez
11-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Anybody taking bets on how long it will take before the first sex scandal with ihm involved will break loose? I'm serious: I expect a sex scandal. As to his policies: expect a major shift to the left on issues like queer marriage and positive discrimination, and very little changes on the international scene.

I'm not American obviously, so I may be missing things.

Thordis
11-06-2008, 01:30 AM
Maybe it's just me, but Obama doesn't seem to stand for anything much, he does have presentation however, which won him over McCain.

But maybe there's some good in the bad too. As long as some WASP was officially in power, everyone believed everything was more or less alright. McCain may be of European background, but he has Neocon and Zionist views. Now the US is going to be lead by someone with the middle name Hussein. It looks surreal. Not to mention all the races and ethnicities in his family. A Kenyan father, an Anglo-Saxon mother, an Indonesian half-sister with a Malaysian husband, and possibly even a part Cherokee great-grandmother, although I don't know if it's not just a rumor. In other words, like some journalist said, the "prefect 21st century American", embodying multiracialism, the ideology of the 21st century. Anyway, Obama may lead America into the abyss quicker, and maybe he will try to free the US a bit from the Zionist lobby.

The Republicans should have pushed Ron Paul. He really could have brought some significant hope and change.

Aragorn
11-06-2008, 08:08 AM
I dont trust commies:


The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them.

While we do not endorse any particular candidates, we do endorse and join in the anti-Bush/anti-right wing sentiments that are driving so many people to activism.

The fact that the Democratic frontrunners are an African American and a woman speaks volumes on how far the country has come. Hillary Clinton’s campaign has attracted large numbers of supporters, especially women. Other Democratic contenders presented some excellent proposals to reverse the devastation caused by the Bush administration’s policies.

Barack Obama’s campaign has so far generated the most excitement, attracted the most votes, most volunteers and the most money. We think the basic reason for this is that his campaign has the clearest message of unity and progressive change, while having a real possibility for victory in November.

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/907/1/4/


Barack Obama had extensive ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, in Hawaii and Chicago, according to two new reports released yesterday in Washington, D.C., by two experienced internal security investigators.

Investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, presented evidence Obama was mentored, while attending high school in Hawaii, by Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American poet and journalist who was also a CPUSA member.

The authors, in a separate report, document Obama's ties to radicals in Chicago who helped launch his career.

In a paper entitled "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection," the authors document that in 1948, Davis decided to move from Chicago to Honolulu at the suggestion of what they describe as two "secret CPUSA members," actor Paul Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen Union, or ILWU.

In Chicago, Davis had worked for the Chicago Star newspaper; in Honolulu, he was hired as a reporter for the Honolulu Record, both identified by Kincaid and Romerstein as "communist front newspapers."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

Æmeric
11-09-2008, 05:22 PM
Obama is a radically Black Nationalist who at the moment is pushing a multiracial agenda for his own aims. My concern is all much more demographic damage will be done over the next 4-years. How many more Latinos & Africans will be allowed in? And will he fast tract the aliens, legal & illeagal, on the fast tract to citizenship so they can vote in the next election? The most dangerous thing is that the US is facing instability from the financial crisis & social problems pertaining to our diversity. Obama is the Commander-in-Chief. He has control of the Armed Forces, in a crisis he may decide to cast the Wasp establishment aside as he take dictatorial powers. It is not that farfetched of an idea. Thuggery is the Negro way of governing - look at Detroit. Negroes have been given so much authority in our large urban centers & in the Army that a coup d'etat is not unthinkable. Another scary thought - Barack Hussein Obama will have control over the US nuclear arsenal come January 20.

Loki
11-09-2008, 06:41 PM
The negatives are easy to pick out. But are there any positives? I would argue so. Bear me out:

1) Less of a Zionist focus -- it is possible that the Zionists' power could wane under Obama.

2) Less aggressive foreign policy -- a John McCain victory would possibly have guaranteed a new Cold War. But relations between the US and Russia could thaw under Obama. See here (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4A81EN20081109) for a positive development.

3) An awakening under White Americans to create new strategies to ensure their survival and prosperity. Obama could spark an outpouring of racial consciousness under Whites. They needed something to shock them back to reality.

4) If Obama makes a mess of the presidency, he's likely to be the first and the last black president. Chances are good with the current financial turmoil.

Vulpix
11-09-2008, 08:21 PM
What makes you think there'll be less of a Zionist focus? How do you reconcile that view with the fact that the first member picked by Obama is Rahm Israel Emanuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel)?


The negatives are easy to pick out. But are there any positives? I would argue so. Bear me out:

1) Less of a Zionist focus -- it is possible that the Zionists' power could wane under Obama.

Loki
11-09-2008, 08:24 PM
What makes you think there'll be less of a Zionist focus? How do you reconcile that view with the fact that the first member picked by Obama is Rahm Israel Emanuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel)?

Good point. :)

My guess is he's a token Jew, in order to mask a less pro-Semitic policy. Token Jews are nothing new, a lot of Jews backstab each other. Even Iran has Jews who support Ahmadinejad.

But the fact is, most Jews have traditionally supported the Democratic party. Obama's origins, however, could make him more sympathetic to Palestinian and other anti-Jewish causes, even though he wouldn't publicly admit it.

Arrow Cross
11-09-2008, 09:13 PM
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SwordoftheVistula
11-18-2008, 06:00 AM
I don't think he'll do much of anything, as he doesn't have much of any substantial ideological agenda. The Democratically controlled Congress will just go wild. Anything that they do will screw up the economy, not fix it, so in 4 years the country will be in an even worse mess than now, and he'll be voted out.