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XUTERO
08-18-2014, 01:52 AM
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Follow link below to sign the petition to stop the murderous bastards in Palestine;
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What do you people think, should be done in this situation of crisis? This conflict will never stop, unless someone puts an end to this madness.
Discuss:



As a new round of violence kicks off in Israel-Palestine and more
children are killed, it's not enough just to call for another ceasefire.
It’s time to take definitive non-violent action to end this decades
long nightmare.

Our governments have failed -- while they have talked peace and
passed UN resolutions, they and our companies have continued to aid,
trade and invest in the violence. The only way to stop this hellish cycle
of Israel confiscating Palestinian lands, daily collective punishment of
innocent Palestinian families, Hamas firing rockets, and Israel bombing
Gaza is to make the economic cost of this conflict too high to bear.

We know it works -- when EU countries issued guidelines not to fund
the illegal Israeli settlements it caused an earthquake in the cabinet,
and when citizens successfully persuaded a Dutch pension fund, PGGM,
to withdraw, it created a political storm.

This may not feel like a direct way to stop the current killing, but history
tells us that raising the financial cost of oppression can pave a path to peace.
Sign the petition on the right and call on 6 key banks, pension funds and
businesses to pull out -- If we all take smart action now and turn up the heat,
they could withdraw, the Israeli economy will take a hit, and we can turn the
calculation of the extremists politically profiting from this hell upside down.



In the last six weeks three Israeli teenagers were murdered in the West Bank,
a Palestinian boy was burnt alive, an American kid was brutally beaten up by
Israeli police, and now almost 100 Gazan kids have died in Israeli air strikes.
This is not the "Middle East conflict", it's becoming a war on children. And we
are becoming numb to this global shame.

The media makes out like this is an intractable conflict between two equal
warring parties, but it is not. Palestinian extremists' attacks on innocent civilians
are never justified and Hamas’ anti-semitism is disgusting. But these extremists
claim legitimacy by fighting the grotesque, decades-long oppression by the
Israeli state.
Israel currently occupies, colonises, bombs, raids, and controls the water, trade
and the borders of a legally free nation that has been recognised by the United Nations.
In Gaza, Israel has created the largest open-air prison in the world, and then blockaded it.
Now as bombs fall, the families literally have no way to get out.

These are war crimes and we wouldn't accept that anywhere else: why accept it in Palestine?
Half a century ago Israel and its Arab neighbours went to war and Israel occupied the
West Bank and Gaza. Occupying territory after war happens all the time. But no military
occupation should turn into a decades-long tyranny which only fuels and benefits extremists
who use terror to target the innocent. And who suffers? The majority of loving families on
both sides that just want freedom and peace.

To many, particularly in Europe and North America, calling for companies to withdraw investments
from financing or taking part in Israel's occupation of Palestine sounds completely biased. But this
campaign is not anti-Israel -- this is the most potent non-violent strategy to end the ritual violence,
ensure Israelis' security and achieve Palestinian freedom. Although Hamas deserves much pressure too,
it is already under crippling sanctions and facing every kind of pressure. Israel's power and wealth
dwarfs Palestine, and if it refuses to end its illegal occupation, the world must act to make the cost unbearable.

Dutch pension fund ABP invests in Israeli banks that help fund the colonisation of Palestine.
Massive banks like Barclays invest in suppliers of Israeli arms and other occupation businesses.
British G4S provides extensive security equipment used by the Israeli Defence Force in the occupation.
France's Veolia operates transport for Israeli settlers illegally living on Palestinian lands.
Computer giant Hewlett-Packard supplies sophisticated surveillance to control the movement of Palestinians.
And Caterpillar provides bulldozers that are used to demolish Palestinian homes and farms.

If we can create the biggest global call ever to get these companies to pull out, we will show clearly that
the world will no longer be complicit in this bloodshed. The Palestinian people are calling on the world to
support this path and progressive Israelis support it too. Let’s join them.

Our community has worked to bring peace, hope, and change to some of the world’s toughest conflicts,
and often that means taking difficult positions to address the root cause. For years our community has
looked for a political solution to this nightmare, but with this new round of horror unfolding in Gaza,
the time has come to turn to sanctions and disinvestment to finally help end the horror for Israelis and Palestinians.

Anglojew
08-18-2014, 02:13 AM
Nice try at duplicity but Israel does not occupy Gaza Hamas does

The UN does not recognize Palestine as a State

How will you guarantee Israel's security, as this petition claims?

Hamas is to blame for the current war. Israel has accepted 8 ceasefire agreements. Hamas has not accepted or broken all 8 including the latest one.

Kale
08-18-2014, 02:29 AM
Ok....So let me get this straight.

On one side we have a group of people, who, on occasion, encircle a giant rock and throw smaller rocks at it because they believe the big rock is the devil. Some of these rocks miss and end up killing people on the other side of the circle. They see no problems.

On the other side we have people who believe an all powerful bipolar spaceman commanded a guy to chop off his foreskin in exchange for an already occupied piece of land for him and all his descendents.

...You expect this shit to ever make sense!?

XUTERO
08-18-2014, 02:31 AM
I'm sorry my friend but there is no turnaround; zionists began this conflict, they are the only ones to blame for putting Palestinian and jewish lives in perpetual danger.
By the way Palestine existed already on ancient antiquity maps. The jewish states disappeared millennia ago. This occupation is nothing more that an illegal dream, and
like all dreams, it will come to an end.

I recon you believe white phosphorus on children is a moral way to get peace? How strange...

Prisoner Of Ice
08-18-2014, 02:33 AM
Oh those evil jews, firing rockets and using human shields.

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQISuWCdRsY

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmPo-M-afRM&list=PL2A98B16EFF58B7A9

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLALZLEDgo

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJg5hnxvBB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49l-g_TtGhI
Why Jesus is not the real Messiah, Rabbi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79onWInRCOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uZ7usrRiEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGPw3krHlNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnEZtqj2Mo

Anglojew
08-18-2014, 02:48 AM
I'm sorry my friend but there is no turnaround; zionists began this conflict, they are the only ones to blame for putting Palestinian and jewish lives in perpetual danger.
By the way Palestine existed already on ancient antiquity maps. The jewish states disappeared millennia ago. This occupation is nothing more that an illegal dream, and
like all dreams, it will come to an end.

I recon you believe white phosphorus on children is a moral way to get peace? How strange...

Yes Palestine existed on ancient maps. So did Judea. The fact it didn't exist on modern maps seems to have escaped you. Hamas doesn't support an independent Palestine by the way but a global caliphate!!!!!


Hamas Minister of the Interior Fathi Hammad proclaimed: "We shall liberate our Al-Aqsa Mosque, and our cities and villages, as a prelude to the establishment of the future Islamic Caliphate."

http://www.ftrradio.com/2013/12/hamas-interior-minister-calls-for-third-intifada-and-declares-we-will-establish-islamic-caliphate/

Israel is the first power to give palestinians independence in 100s of years.

Hamas does not want an independent Palestine. The Turks didn't, the Egyptians didn't, the Jordanians didn't. You're ignorant.

Israel wants a two state solution. Hamas doesn't.

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yte-ad6Y31s

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvKxJc-huEA

Anglojew
08-18-2014, 02:55 AM
The UN does NOT recognise Hamas as a representative of the Palestinian people;


On 14 October 1974, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was recognized by the UN General Assembly as the representative of the Palestinian people and granted the right to participate in the deliberations of the General Assembly on the question of Palestine in plenary meetings.[30][31]

On 22 November 1974, the PLO was granted non-state observer status, allowing the PLO to participate in all Assembly sessions, as well as in other UN platforms.[32]

On 15 December 1988, UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 "acknowledged" the Palestinian Declaration of Independence of November 1988 and replaced the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" by the designation "Palestine" in the United Nations system.[33]

On 23 September 2011, President Mahmoud Abbas on behalf of the PLO submitted an application for membership of Palestine in the United Nations. On 29 November 2012, the General Assembly granted Palestine non-member observer state status in United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestin e#Palestine_in_the_United_Nations


Besides this Hamas's 2006 election mandate to rule (even accepting you think a terrorist group is fit to rule Gaza) ENDED 4 YEARS AGO.

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsHH_ldoLq8

one of the best debates on YouTube

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 02:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSrVjXQktDw

Quran vs. Bible - Which is more evil?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neehIss8zfs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K-K2jnyRUw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeiAlzu47Uw

Sir Richard Dawkins said, 'Islam Is One Of The Great Evils'.

Anglojew
08-18-2014, 03:03 AM
HAMAS REJECTS 'FINAL' CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL: 'DEATH FOR ALLAH IS OUR MOST EXALTED WISH


https://mobile.twitter.com/Qassam_English/statuses/500679981341478912

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 03:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNdVcvh3BI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRd-jlV82BI

XUTERO
08-18-2014, 03:07 AM
Yes Palestine existed on ancient maps. So did Judea. The fact it didn't exist on modern maps seems to have escaped you. Hamas doesn't support an independent Palestine by the way but a global caliphate!!!!!



http://www.ftrradio.com/2013/12/hamas-interior-minister-calls-for-third-intifada-and-declares-we-will-establish-islamic-caliphate/

Israel is the first power to give palestinians independence in 100s of years.

Hamas does not want an independent Palestine. The Turks didn't, the Egyptians didn't, the Jordanians didn't. You're ignorant.

Israel wants a two state solution. Hamas doesn't.

Oh? Is that so? On what maps would that be?
Post-WWII maps? Or Pre-WWII maps like this one?;
http://www.wrvmuseum.org/journal/images/WWII_in_Europe.jpg
Palestine is undeniably there and recognized.

Besides, those extremist groups like Hamas would never exist if zionists didn't invade in the first place...
They don't want to have a peaceful solution? I guess they want to completely recover all of their stolen lands,
which is honorable so far.

If you would just read the entire article, you would notice that this petition is for the defence of Jews as well,
but I fear you are being blinded by your anger...

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 03:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH9UvnrARf8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDmQINlntJ4
How NOT to debate an atheist...

Reign of True Hayasa
08-18-2014, 03:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6ZtLsDXDg

Anglojew
08-18-2014, 03:28 AM
Oh? Is that so? On what maps would that be?
Post-WWII maps? Or Pre-WWII maps like this one?;
http://www.wrvmuseum.org/journal/images/WWII_in_Europe.jpg
Palestine is undeniably there and recognized.

Besides, those extremist groups like Hamas would never exist if zionists didn't invade in the first place...
They don't want to have a peaceful solution? I guess they want to completely recover all of their stolen lands,
which is honorable so far.

If you would just read the entire article, you would notice that this petition is for the defence of Jews as well,
but I fear you are being blinded by your anger...


Palestine was a British Mandate. It wasn't an independent country.

XUTERO
08-18-2014, 03:44 AM
Palestine was a British Mandate. It wasn't an independent country.

As was half of the world, if you count French colonies with it. I guess the Germans really fought against those who enslaved the world.
How can people really believe the Nazi's to have been the "bad guys"... :picard1:

XUTERO
08-18-2014, 03:19 PM
Bump the petition, need to go to 2.000.000 signatures.

EyeOfTheTiger
08-18-2014, 03:35 PM
is it some kind of a joke?

XUTERO
08-20-2014, 03:31 AM
is it some kind of a joke?

Why would it be a joke?

XUTERO
08-20-2014, 02:31 PM
bump

mikhail
08-20-2014, 02:41 PM
I thought glutenTurk or whatever his name was would have started this thread.

XUTERO
08-20-2014, 03:31 PM
I guess not only Muslims are concerned by the danger that Zionism represents. :)

XUTERO
08-24-2014, 02:55 PM
Bump, we're only at 1.760.000 signatures, --> goal: 2.000.000.
Show your good resolve, sign the damn petition.

XUTERO
08-25-2014, 01:19 AM
bump...

XUTERO
09-05-2014, 11:48 PM
1,778,177 have signed. Let's get to 2,000,000

XUTERO
09-14-2014, 05:03 PM
bump