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Anglojew
08-30-2014, 11:57 PM
Millions of people around the world may discover Jewish roots with the increasing availability of home genetics tests and concurrent growth in popularity of genealogical websites, according to a Jerusalem think tank.

The Jewish People Policy Institute, an independent body founded by the Jewish Agency in 2002, focused on Jewish continuity that conducted research regarding this issue, announced on Wednesday that earlier this summer it had recommended to the government, as well as Diaspora communities that they work to connect with people discovering that they have Jewish ties.

“Millions of people around the world may discover they have Jewish roots as a result of direct-to-consumer DNA Testing,” JPPI said in a statement, adding that it endorsed the provision of “information and points of connection for individuals who have discovered some Jewish ancestry through direct-to-consumer DNA testing.”

According to JPPI president Avinoam Bar-Yosef, such efforts would not focus on proselytization but rather on creating an “expanded circle of individuals with some Jewish roots who feel an affinity and identification with the Jewish people and the State of Israel.”

Such efforts, a spokeswoman for the think tank told The Jerusalem Post, could serve to buttress Israel’s standing abroad and help build bridges between Jewish communities and their neighbors abroad.

Furthermore, the JPPI said that the ability to determine prior familial links to the Jewish people could “offer opportunities for connecting, engaging and strengthening the bonds of the Jewish people.”

Citing a New York Times report from 2005 regarding American Hispanics embracing aspects of Jewish culture due to indications that they were descended from Spanish Jews forcibly converted to Catholicism, the think tank stated that the results of genetic tests “have the potential to deeply affect one’s self-conception of belonging to the Jewish people” and could “lead to other forms of Jewish engagement.”

“Just as the State of Israel has invested resources into the study and promotion of archeology, in part to demonstrate and strengthen the connection of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, by investing in the fields of genetic research and molecular anthropology, Israeli scientists could be at the forefront of this growing field not only to demonstrate the historical connection of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, but to help refute studies that manipulate data in order to undermine that connection,” said Noah Slepkov, author of the JPPI study.

Slepkov was likely referring to some who claim that the Jews of today are unrelated to the Israelites of the Bible such as Israeli academic Shlomo Sand, whose book The Invention of the Jewish People, which claimed that contemporary Jews are the descendants of the Khazars, Berbers and other groups. Sand’s book became a bestseller in France leading to a significant backlash by Jewish groups.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Home-genetics-kits-could-identify-millions-with-Jewish-roots-372835

Aviator
08-31-2014, 12:00 AM
Through what, haplogroups?

Anglojew
08-31-2014, 12:03 AM
Through what, haplogroups?

A combination of things, this is more AJ specific but:

http://genomebiology.com/content/10/1/R7

http://blog.23andme.com/ancestry/the-uniqueness-of-ashkenazi-jewish-ancestry-is-important-for-health/

Prisoner Of Ice
08-31-2014, 12:07 AM
:lol:

So you place a star of david on your chest and if it lights up, you are jewish?

Aviator
08-31-2014, 12:08 AM
A combination of things, this is more AJ specific but:

http://genomebiology.com/content/10/1/R7

http://blog.23andme.com/ancestry/the-uniqueness-of-ashkenazi-jewish-ancestry-is-important-for-health/

Isn't it a bit tricky to tell if someone has a small amount of Ashkenazi in them, since it could just be DNA from a population that contributed to Ashkenazis?

I swear I saw a discussion about that on here a while ago.

Anglojew
08-31-2014, 12:10 AM
:lol:

So you place a star of david on your chest and if it lights up, you are jewish?

Yes, exactly.

Anglojew
08-31-2014, 12:14 AM
Isn't it a bit tricky to tell if someone has a small amount of Ashkenazi in them, since it could just be DNA from a population that contributed to Ashkenazis?

I swear I saw a discussion about that on here a while ago.

Yes, that's a good point -i.e. if you had Palestinian or Kurdish ancestry etc- but I guess it's also about finding Jewish relatives as well.

For instance I've got some "Central European" admixture which was a mystery before finding some ethnic Polish cousins (on 23andme) so now I know I have an ethnic Polish ancestor I didn't know about previously.

Aviator
08-31-2014, 12:30 AM
Yes, that's a good point -i.e. if you had Palestinian or Kurdish ancestry etc- but I guess it's also about finding Jewish relatives as well.

For instance I've got some "Central European" admixture which was a mystery before finding some ethnic Polish cousins (on 23andme) so now I know I have an ethnic Polish ancestor I didn't know about previously.

But in the New World you could have basically anyone as a cousin. One of my White friends has an
"Irish" match who is black. And if a bunch of my Grandmothers sisters and brothers had children who married Jews, then I would have a lot of Jewish matches, even if I have no Jewish lineage.

Anglojew
08-31-2014, 07:56 AM
But in the New World you could have basically anyone as a cousin. One of my White friends has an
"Irish" match who is black. And if a bunch of my Grandmothers sisters and brothers had children who married Jews, then I would have a lot of Jewish matches, even if I have no Jewish lineage.

I was born in Europe.

Friends of Oliver Society
08-31-2014, 08:00 AM
But in the New World you could have basically anyone as a cousin. One of my White friends has an
"Irish" match who is black. And if a bunch of my Grandmothers sisters and brothers had children who married Jews, then I would have a lot of Jewish matches, even if I have no Jewish lineage.

Oh, but that doesn't matter. As long as they feel an "affinity" towards Israel that's all that matters. That entire article read like an outline for future propaganda.

Aviator
08-31-2014, 05:13 PM
I was born in Europe.

Right, but it seemed like the purpose of this article was to get as many people possible to feel a kinship with Israel, even if it means tricking them into think they have Jewish ancestry.

Anglojew
08-31-2014, 11:03 PM
Right, but it seemed like the purpose of this article was to get as many people possible to feel a kinship with Israel, even if it means tricking them into think they have Jewish ancestry.

Genetics isn't a trick. It's evidence.

Aviator
08-31-2014, 11:46 PM
Genetics isn't a trick. It's evidence.

It's a trick when you say that one of your distant cousins having Jewish ancestry means that you do as well.

Prisoner Of Ice
08-31-2014, 11:50 PM
But in the New World you could have basically anyone as a cousin.

Sort of but not really.



One of my White friends has an "Irish" match who is black. And if a bunch of my Grandmothers sisters and brothers had children who married Jews, then I would have a lot of Jewish matches, even if I have no Jewish lineage.

Lots of blacks have irish dna especially if they came from carribean, due to irish slavery.

Anglojew
09-01-2014, 12:46 AM
It's a trick when you say that one of your distant cousins having Jewish ancestry means that you do as well.

It only refers to direct ancestry. The ancestry of your cousins is irrelevant -when dicussing your genetic makeup- unless it overlaps with you.

Kale
09-03-2014, 03:38 PM
Impossible. That would make less holocaust victims.

Anglojew
09-03-2014, 03:57 PM
Impossible. That would make less holocaust victims.

This comment doesn't even make sense

Albo Fire
09-03-2014, 04:03 PM
Right, but it seemed like the purpose of this article was to get as many people possible to feel a kinship with Israel, even if it means tricking them into think they have Jewish ancestry.

Apparently this is the purpose of genetics these days, glad anglojew started this eye opener article of Jpost, looks like a Jewish are planning to recoup their population decline in near future with grand genetics scam.