Ottoman Dynasty Haplogroup J2

[st1000]

An Ottoman prince (descendant of Sultan Abdulaziz) has J2 haplogroup.
Resource: www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=sultan&viewuid=94A9M&p=0
http://i58.tinypic.com/2q2i89l.jpg

[Black Wolf]

An Ottoman prince (descendant of Sultan Abdulaziz) has J2 haplogroup.
Resource: www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=sultan&viewuid=94A9M&p=0
http://i58.tinypic.com/2q2i89l.jpg

I checked about this before. Is this fellow in the link below the direct paternal line ancestor of this man?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_Izzettin_Efendi

[Artek]

Ottoman dynasty was R1a-Z93 L657+ and Sultan Abdulaziz was indirectly related to the dynasty.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1535016_10152094553423190_1498361302_n.jpg

Among one of the people tested was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Osmanoglu, a member of Osman dynasty. So read a bit before making such threads.

[Partizan]

Ottoman dynasty was R1a-Z93 L657+ and Sultan Abdulaziz was indirectly related to the dynasty.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1535016_10152094553423190_1498361302_n.jpg

Among one of the people tested was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Osmanoglu, a member of Osman dynasty. So read a bit before making such threads.

Asian branch, right? Because Ottoman dynasty's Oghuz heritage is well documented.

[st1000]

Sultan Abdulaziz was indirectly related to the dynasty.

Are you kidding? Abdulaziz is the 32nd Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and reigned between 25 June 1861 and 30 May 1876. He was the son of Sultan Mahmud II and succeeded his brother Abdülmecid I in 1861. The grandsons of Abdulaziz are also the descendants of Ottoman dynasty. Naz Osmanoglu is the descendant of Mehmed V Reshad, and in the meantime he is also English from his maternal side.

I displayed you a record (referenced to Oxford ancestry) with the link on ysearch.org which displays an Ottoman prince belongs to J2, but you just copy a fake image and show here. Just read below why?

There is not such a record name under the ID: KMDCN or name "Prince Şehzade Nazım Ziyaeddin Osmanoğlu" on ysearch.org records. The image you sent is completely fake produced by some unknown people. I think that file should have been produced by a Turkish person to claim Ottomans as the descendants of R1a because the name on image includes "Turkish characters" such as Ş, ı, ğ with English title "Prince". That's a bit half Turkish-half English writing. That's exactly inconsistent. Naz Osmanoglu would not use such Turkish characters. And if it was true, we would view KMDCN record of Naz Osmanoglu on ysearch.org records. So don't believe in everything you see on the web. You can search on ysearch on your own. http://www.ysearch.org/research_start.asp?uid= or here: http://www.ysearch.org/search_start.asp?message=Invalid+User+ID

Your image seems to be fake exactly. Only the XWBWW is true, but with a different surname. You should prove your claim with a reliable link to ysearch.org It is possible that everybody can produce fake things and put on the web.

[st1000]

Asian branch, right? Because Ottoman dynasty's Oghuz heritage is well documented.

J2 is more common in Oghuz branch of Turkic people. The haplotype J2 has the highest frequencies in Turkey (24-40%), Azerbaijan (48-54%), Central Asian Uyghurs (34%), Uzbeks, Turkmens and northern Caucasian tribes (Balkars 24%, Kumyks 25%, Avars 75%, Nogays, Karachays, Chuvash and Naimans), who are the descendants of Khazaria (the western wing of Turkic Empire) historically. J2 seems to be more typical to Oghuz people; on the other hand, R1a is more related to Kypchaks, and some Tatars, who are of Eastern Europe Turkic tribes. C3 is much more related to Kazakhs, but it is interesting that according to a research, 14% of Kazakhs belong to J2 as well. Turkic tribes of Eastern Europe such as Gagauz belong to I2 to a certain extent.

Historically, most of the Oghuz tribes migrated to the Middle East, and only a small portion of them stayed in Central Asia due to the invasion of Monghols. Azerbaijani Turks have the most typical Oghuz type both genetically and physically.

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[Artek]

Well. I may give you a credit, because you got some points. But guessing that R1a-Z93 and J2 both can be turkish, we need scientific confirmation for one or another belonging to Ottoman Dynasty.
All results that we have so far are commercial and everyone can write anything on ysearch. I thought that screenshot I've inserted here is true, rest is here: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29733-Sultans-of-the-Ottoman-dynasty-may-have-belonged-to-haplogroup-R1a-or-J2

[st1000]

Well. I may give you a credit, because you got some points. But guessing that R1a-Z93 and J2 both can be turkish, we need scientific confirmation for one or another belonging to Ottoman Dynasty.
All results that we have so far are commercial and everyone can write anything on ysearch. I thought that screenshot I've inserted here is true, rest is here: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29733-Sultans-of-the-Ottoman-dynasty-may-have-belonged-to-haplogroup-R1a-or-J2

I have seen this before, but it did not persuade me because I couldn't find Naz Osmanoglu on the ysearch.org. I see just an image which was pasted by a user nicknamed Icebreaker (with R-M269*) under Maciamo. To be sure and certain of the real haplogroup, one or more of the descendants of Ottoman dynasty should join Y-DNA test and make everything clear whether the true haploggroup of the Ottoman Dynasty is J2 or R1a by making a speech to media/press etc.

[Black Wolf]

J2 is more common in Oghuz branch of Turkic people. The haplotype J2 has the highest frequencies in Turkey (24-40%), Azerbaijan (48-54%), Central Asian Uyghurs (34%), Uzbeks, Turkmens and northern Caucasian tribes (Balkars 24%, Kumyks 25%, Avars 75%, Nogays, Karachays, Chuvash and Naimans), who are the descendants of Khazaria (the western wing of Turkic Empire) historically. J2 seems to be more typical to Oghuz people; on the other hand, R1a is more related to Kypchaks, and some Tatars, who are of Eastern Europe Turkic tribes. C3 is much more related to Kazakhs, but it is interesting that according to a research, 14% of Kazakhs belong to J2 as well. Turkic tribes of Eastern Europe such as Gagauz belong to I2 to a certain extent.

Historically, most of the Oghuz tribes migrated to the Middle East, and only a small portion of them stayed in Central Asia due to the invasion of Monghols. Azerbaijani Turks have the most typical Oghuz type both genetically and physically.

50465

The Avar people of the Caucasus today are mostly J1 not J2.

[Gryphon]

The Avar people of the Caucasus today are mostly J1 not J2.

You Exposed the Pan-Turdist.

[Fiko0]

Is there still any update about this?

Wikipedia says that Ertugrul belongs to J2. How accuratge is this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historic_people#Ertu%C4%9Fr ul

[Karaton]

Is there still any update about this?

Wikipedia says that Ertugrul belongs to J2. How accuratge is this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historic_people#Ertu%C4%9Fr ul

Not accurate at all. No one in the family has ever tested yet.