Which city is worse? Skopje or Sarajevo?

[poiuytrewq0987]

Both cities are muslim-infested, except Skopje's Muslims are a bit less radical but it has its share of Turks which increase the level of radicalism of Islam in Skopje. I've been to Sarajevo and I can't say I was too impressed... The city was largely damaged during the civil war so they have a good excuse. But Skopje today is getting more and more ridiculous with it building all things related to ancient Macedonians and foregoing their Slavic heritage completely. So, Skopje loses a point from me for that. Personally, both cities are not too great but I'd think Sarajevo to be better than Skopje because it still retain some pretty architecture and people in general is really friendly there. Not the same can be said of Skopje where it's overflowing with gypsies, Macedonian fascists and their general hatred of anything non-Macedonian.

[Tabiti]

In Sarajevo they probably would not call me "Tatar" :D

[poiuytrewq0987]

In Sarajevo they probably would not call me "Tatar" :D

That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.

[The Ripper]

That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.

Not despite, but because, I'd imagine.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Not despite, but because, I'd imagine.

Are you suggesting that it's horrible to be recognized as a Bulgarian?

[The Ripper]

Are you suggesting that it's horrible to be recognized as a Bulgarian?

If you don't want to be Bulgarian, yes.

[poiuytrewq0987]

If you don't want to be Bulgarian, yes.

The case of FYROM isn't very complex to the experienced eye but to the novices it can be. FYROM's location today is where the Turkish vilayet (province) of Macedonia used to be. And a lot of Bulgarians lived in that vilayet with Greeks crowding the coastal towns. And those Bulgarians called themselves Macedonian because they lived in the vilayet named Macedonia not because they viewed themselves as descendants of Megas Alexandros. The claiming lineage to Megas Alexandros is a recent thing initially started by Stalin who wanted to incorporate the Greek province of Macedonia. He had the Bulgarians in the province of Blagoevgrad forcibly re-identify themselves as Macedonian not Bulgarian and this was carried out by Georgi Dimitrov (a famous Bulgarian communist in league with Stalin and partially with Tito who planned the incorporation of Bulgaria and Macedonia as whole before the Tito-Stalin split). Obviously when the communists lost the civil war in Greece and the idea was thrown out but the people there just kept using the name Macedonia and Macedonians as their ancestors had and now with the age of information here -- they were able to put 1 and 1 together that the name is related to the ancient people of Macedonia who conquered more than half of the known world at the time.

The vilifying of Bulgarians in FYROM is also a recent thing started by radical nationalists in FYROM because they want to claim the history of IMRO as their own, not Bulgaria's. And a lot of their national heroes are Bulgarians but they continue to deny that they are Bulgarians but Macedonians. Just fucking ridiculous.

[The Ripper]

The case of FYROM isn't very complex to the experienced eye but to the novices it can be. FYROM's location today is where the Turkish vilayet (province) of Macedonia used to be. And a lot of Bulgarians lived in that vilayet with Greeks crowding the coastal towns. And those Bulgarians called themselves Macedonian because they lived in the vilayet named Macedonia not because they viewed themselves as descendants of Megas Alexandros. The claiming lineage to Megas Alexandros is a recent thing initially started by Stalin who wanted to incorporate the Greek province of Macedonia. He had the Bulgarians in the province of Blagoevgrad forcibly re-identify themselves as Macedonian not Bulgarian and this was carried out by Georgi Dimitrov (a famous Bulgarian communist in league with Stalin and partially with Tito who planned the incorporation of Bulgaria and Macedonia as whole before the Tito-Stalin split). Obviously when the communists lost the civil war in Greece and the idea was thrown out but the people there just kept using the name Macedonia and Macedonians as their ancestors had and now with the age of information here -- they were able to put 1 and 1 together that the name is related to the ancient people of Macedonia who conquered more than half of the known world at the time.

The vilifying of Bulgarians in FYROM is also a recent thing started by radical nationalists in FYROM because they want to claim the history of IMRO as their own, not Bulgaria's. And a lot of their national heroes are Bulgarians but they continue to deny that they are Bulgarians but Macedonians. Just fucking ridiculous.

Yes. So this is why they are anti-Bulgarian, not despite being Bulgarians themselves, but because of it. Because they don't want to be. :coffee:

[poiuytrewq0987]

Yes. So this is why they are anti-Bulgarian, not despite being Bulgarians themselves, but because of it. Because they don't want to be. :coffee:

Yeah, I just felt like typing the whole thing, lol. Bad me, back on topic!

[Turkophagos]

That's true, I forgot to add that point. FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.
What's wrong with them, they accuse us of "genocide" for the... greek-bulgarian exchange of populations, that was arranged at the Neuilly treaty.

[poiuytrewq0987]

What's wrong with them, they accuse us of "genocide" for the... greek-bulgarian exchange of populations, that was arranged at the Neuilly treaty.

Misinformation and propaganda. They're trying to take a page out of the Jews' handbook which is to claim things like genocide so they can get what they want which is the creation of a "Greater Macedonia". But good luck filling all that land with only 1 million FYROMians, lol...

[Monolith]

FYROMians are exorbitantly anti-Bulgarian despite the majority of them having Bulgarian roots.
I've always found it difficult to understand why the Bulgarians seem to care so much about the Macedonians. Not that I'm taking sides here, of course.

As for the cities in question, I wouldn't know which one is 'worse', since I haven't visited any of the two so far.

[Osweo]

There should always be an option 'I don't know' in polls. Here, however, it might as well be just 'I think this poll is weird and am slightly concerned about the motivations behind its posting'...

[poiuytrewq0987]

I've always found it difficult to understand why the Bulgarians seem to care so much about the Macedonians. Not that I'm taking sides here, of course.

As for the cities in question, I wouldn't know which one is 'worse', since I haven't visited any of the two so far.

Maybe because we Bulgarians consider the Macedonians to be our brother people? It is true since the Macedonian language Macedonians speak today is very close to Bulgarian than any other language. The only big difference between both countries' language is the alphabet. And many Bulgarians I know would like to see Bulgaria regain 1944 borders. I am not really for Bulgarian nationalism though but rather a Yugoslav one. That isn't really possible right now since Yugoslavia proper has been gone for 20 years now.


There should always be an option 'I don't know' in polls. Here, however, it might as well be just 'I think this poll is weird and am slightly concerned about the motivations behind its posting'...

Don't be, the poll may sound odd but those two cities are notorious for being two worst cities in Yugoslavia.

[Svarog]

I don't understand what does these towns have to do with Serbia tho? :S

[Pallantides]

Skopje, because "Macedonians" try to steal Greek history.

[Saruman]

I was born in Sarajevo, well there are good and bad things about the city, but I must say that irrelevant of the city the landscape around the city is wonderful, with lovely mountains and headwaters where you can drink the best water that can be. Also Sarajevo is 300 m higher than Skopje so the air is more fresh. But I can't vote as I have never been to Skopje, I passed by but haven't seen much of it.
I understand the aversion you might have with the oldest part of city, with eastern architecture but that part is quite small and cramped, the Austrians have build next to it their center of the town with a very nice architecture. Too bad they didn't stay for more than 4 decades, the muslims could have been deislamified by now but such is life. Now I think they built some skyscrapers,I always like skyscrapers so that might improve the overall image. But I don't appreciate some new arab funded mosques, but those are a problem these days in Western Europe too or around the whole globe pretty much. Arabs got lucky with oil reserves so now they spread their arab supremacist ideology that is Islam.

[Amarantine]

I was in Sarajevo befor 90s and after the war, several times, also I was in Skopje, so trust me in Sarajevo is in very bed sit, and skopje is quite ok for me.

[Monolith]

Maybe because we Bulgarians consider the Macedonians to be our brother people?
Is that so? I find it interesting, especially considering the amount of enmity one can come across on the Internet, between you guys.


It is true since the Macedonian language Macedonians speak today is very close to Bulgarian than any other language. The only big difference between both countries' language is the alphabet.

Standard Croatian and Serbian languages are largely based on the same dialect ('novoštokavski'), and are thus even more mutually intelligible than Bulgarian and Macedonian are, and yet, we're two distinct peoples. However, our language, with all its peculiarities, is one of the pillars of our identity. I would guess the attitude towards language is not considerably different in Bulgaria or Macedonia.

Skopje, because "Macedonians" try to steal Greek history.
Oh, a Norwegian with an interest in history of the Balkans! How unusual. :)

[Monolith]

Monolith, u are Croatian. Don't you know for Ante Pavelic and Vanco Mihailov, Vlado Cernozemski. Ustasa & VMRO revolutionary coalition against serbian chauvinist

Vlado Cernozemski in Ustasa uniform http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/8020/vladokelemennx1.th.jpg
Yes, I know that story. As interesting as it may be, it's history now.

[Anthropos]

I know a Croat who moved with his parents to Sarajevo when he was still young. He didn't like it in the beginning, but evenso I heard mostly good things about Sarajevo. He said that in Sarajevo were not just Muslims but also many Croats and people from other nations and ethnic groups around down there as well. After the war he moved to Croatia.

I know nothing about Skopje but I think this thread and poll is made from a one-sided point of view.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Is that so? I find it interesting, especially considering the amount of enmity one can come across on the Internet, between you guys.

Yeah, that is quite natural and to be expected of with the government propagating anti-Bulgarian feelings in FYROM.


Standard Croatian and Serbian languages are largely based on the same dialect ('novoštokavski'), and are thus even more mutually intelligible than Bulgarian and Macedonian are, and yet, we're two distinct peoples. However, our language, with all its peculiarities, is one of the pillars of our identity. I would guess the attitude towards language is not considerably different in Bulgaria or Macedonia.Yeah, Serbs and Croats have similar language but are a bit different because of the rugged Balkan terrain which gave cause to both people to develop separately. The case of FYROM is those people used to call themselves Bulgarians before 1947. If the Axis had won WW2, there would be no FYROM, no ridiculous stealing of Greek history but those people would be proud Bulgarians today. FYROMians celebrate Bulgarian national heroes as Macedonian. I doubt the Croats celebrate Serb national heroes like Macedonians have. Why? Because they are the one and the same.

[poiuytrewq0987]

I don't understand what does these towns have to do with Serbia tho? :S

Well, we don't have a Yugoslavia subforum so the Serbian subforum is the next closet thing to it. :D:p

[Saruman]

In my view the bulk of Macedonians share a link with Bulgarians, maybe a minority with Serbs, but if they want to consider themselves separate I can't stop them.;) But claiming to be direct descendants of Alexander is a bit far fetched. It is possible that there are some people with a link to ancient Macedon, though still, in that case, they would have to speak Greek for start, if that is to be emphasized.

[Kanasyuvigi]

A serb saying that Sarajevo has nothing to do with Srbija... interesting :D
Monolith, do you know why the Bulgarians are so interested in Macedonia? It's because about 30% of Bulgarians have Macedonian roots. It's because 600 000 Bulgarians live in Pirin Macedonia. They speak the same dialect like the Macedonians, they sing the same songs, share the same customs and traditions. But they are Bulgarians.
We, the Bulgarians, haven't been a part of Yugoslavia. The appearance of 57656455868 nations and languages per year is not usual for us. My cousins should be from my nation - there are two possibilities - we're all Bulgarians, or we're all Macedonians.
Everything else is a post-yugo crap ;)

[Svarog]

No, Sarajevo does not have anything to do with Serbia, nor Skopje does; as much as a I appreciate good kebab on Barš Čaršija and a beauty of Sarajevo women it's barely enough to call the place a home. As for Skopje, who gives a shit about Skopje?

As for the other crap, further off topic will result in closing of the thread and possible deletion.

[Guapo]

Screw all of you chauvinist Balkanatolian muthafuckas. Just don't claim Pomoravlje (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomoravlje_District) or my hometown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagodina) or there will be heads rolling :D

As for those two cities, I'm sick and tired of hearing Sarajevo slang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZOx4xiMTIk) anyway, that's for sure :rolleyes: Good song btw.

Castration City = Skoplje
Sarah Is An Ox = Sarajevo

[Amarantine]

I know a Croat who moved with his parents to Sarajevo when he was still young. He didn't like it in the beginning, but evenso I heard mostly good things about Sarajevo. He said that in Sarajevo were not just Muslims but also many Croats and people from other nations and ethnic groups around down there as well. After the war he moved to Croatia.

I know nothing about Skopje but I think this thread and poll is made from a one-sided point of view.

about 3% to 5% Croatians, is not many...(in 2004 and 2005 may be it is better now, but still not many).

[Absinthe]

Hey, I heard that in Skopje they have a street where all the bars and night clubs are, and the locals unofficially call this street "Beverly Hills" :shocked: Can anyone verify this? :D

[Amarantine]

Hey, I heard that in Skopje they have a street where all the bars and night clubs are, and the locals unofficially call this street "Beverly Hills" :shocked: Can anyone verify this? :D

I think that is Tržni Centar (Shopping Mall) nothing spec to me.

Prefere restaurants near Stone Bridge and walking through Turk bazaar.

[Anthropos]

about 3% to 5% Croatians, is not many...(in 2004 and 2005 may be it is better now, but still not many).
Many did what he did, move out after the war, i.e.. There probably isn't any real statistics from Yugoslavia times saying how many Croats there were in Sarajevo, right?

Some moved out during the war too I suppose (but as far as I understood it was extremely dangerous to try that).

[Amarantine]

Many did what he did, move out after the war, i.e.. There probably isn't any real statistics from Yugoslavia times saying how many Croats there were in Sarajevo, right?

Some moved out during the war too I suppose (but as far as I understood it was extremely dangerous to try that).

No, no, this % is after the war, before 90's they have a lot of Croats, ethnic Italians (as my uncle), Jew sociaty was very strong, Serbs (of course:D), Montenegrins, etc it was really cosmopolit city.

[Anthropos]

No, no, this % is after the war, before 90's they have a lot of Croats, ethnic Italians (as my uncle), Jew sociaty was very strong, Serbs (of course:D), Montenegrins, etc it was really cosmopolit city.

Exactly my point - now we agree. :)

[Amarantine]

Exactly my point - now we agree. :)

off topic
never!
:D

[Japod]

Skopje is better, since it is more Gypsy friendly.

[The Lawspeaker]

Skopje is better, since it is more Gypsy friendly.
New Delhi is better in that respect. Y'all should be loaded onto airplanes and send there !

[Guapo]

The Serb part of Sarajevo is great.

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[Radojica]

I would love to visit Sarajevo one day and to eat as much kebabs and baklavas I am able :D:D. Who knows, maybe I fall in love with some Muslim girl there (it would not be the first time anyway :/), Sarajevo has beautiful girls ;)

[Monolith]

A friend from Sarajevo wanted me to share these pictures with you:

City

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Parks

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[Monolith]

People

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Sarajevo mountains

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[Sadie]

I didn't imagine it looked this way.

[Radojica]

...Beautiful...Like war never happened... I am stunned...and happy...

[Saruman]

I'll post some photos as not only I was born in Sarajevo but my maternal grandfathers family held feudal titles and lived there for centuries.

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[poiuytrewq0987]

Hmm it looks like Sarajevo improved by a LOT the last time I was there. :D

[Osweo]

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Ooh, I love scenery like this. Reminds me of Circassia. Is it far out of town? :thumb001:

[Amarantine]

I'll post some photos as not only I was born in Sarajevo but my maternal grandfathers family held feudal titles and lived there for centuries.


Age?
:whistle::coffee:

[Saruman]

Ooh, I love scenery like this. Reminds me of Circassia. Is it far out of town? :thumb001:

First 2 pictures are from mountain Treskavica (6850 ft), it's a quite wild and beautiful mountain, unfortunately during the war the front was located on it, but it's cleansed from mines now. It's around 12 miles south of the city. the mountain has a steep and attractive northern side facing Sarajevo seen here:

http://www.hrphotocontest.com/data/gallery1/100673/87822.jpg

There are many beautiful lakes on it. Here's video of black and grand lakes.
2brhQKrw26M



3rd photo is of Skakavac (grasshopper) waterfall located on a mountain Ozren 7 miles north of city, the waterfall is 98 m tall, with attractive scenery around.

[Aramis]

3rd photo is of Skakavac (grasshopper) waterfall located on a mountain Ozren 7 miles north of city, the waterfall is 98 m tall, with attractive scenery around.

20 minutes from the city center by car? I believe I once made it :D

During summer time I enjoy wallking from Barice to the Skakavac waterfall by foot. Takes around 4 to 5 hours I guess. 3 if you are jogging. :)

A few photos from Barice:

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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs015.snc1/2961_73797377807_764967807_1572864_2413442_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs015.snc1/2961_73801962807_764967807_1572901_540143_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs015.snc1/2961_73801642807_764967807_1572879_1780342_n.jpg

It's directly over Sarajevo, right next to the city as you can see:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs015.snc1/2961_73801622807_764967807_1572876_2105683_n.jpg

During winter time:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SItOvGBZRIw/Ra4UVx0UqeI/AAAAAAAAAkE/1n2afBwcuqU/DSCN9565.jpg

[Guapo]

Which football clubs are worse? Vardar or FK Sarajevo?

[Aramis]

Which football clubs are worse? Vardar or FK Sarajevo?

There is probably nothing as bad as the FK Sarajevo.

[o__o]

Skopje.

[InTouch]

Both cities are still recovering. Skopje from a deadly earthquake in 1963 which destroyed 80% of the city. I like some of Sarajevo's architecture and Skopje, despite currently being a large construction zone is coming along nicely.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/dsc0130.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/SKnk0301.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/Copyof2731514318_c8e1df6561_b.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/Skopje-pesacka-zona.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/1111.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/id6fbo.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s228/daniel_maco/2368588102_06cfc37639_b.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/11wa43r.jpg

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1649/41705931.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9591/44631814.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5244/5271752542_ea337c40c6_b.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/1zr27ht.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2nr1zxx.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2ns8b9c.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2i29us.jpg

[InTouch]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6219/6316081590_ef4d8098c1_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6484152787_74990f2a44_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6494726201_90f390fd9d_o.jpg

http://s2.pticica.com/foto/0001177891_l_0_1s63y6.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/47050778.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318821_2433619880138_1194051704_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/18463_1386282617361_4453829_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/206671_402868609790957_271770767_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/154496_10151330841981445_134978410_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/6107_10151329249452138_327940057_n.jpg

[InTouch]

Skopje City Park.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386581_266610790056710_1070288486_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376021_266680943383028_137821156_n.jpg

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/12686_350659635029809_1822544849_n.jpg

[Alexq]

in terms of architecture, coming from Skopje, i must say its a hell of a mess of a city, u see every kind of architecture around the city, mostly bruatlist scary communist blocks that still give the city a dark image. otherwise people, n staff happening around, its a pretty mean city :)

[Alexq]

New Delhi is better in that respect. Y'all should be loaded onto airplanes and send there !

we keep them only for the sake of doctors proving its good to have a laugh, for longer life, so when u walk in the street and see gipsys ur breath its always taken away, no matter what they do, gives a smile on ur face hahaha

[Arbërori]

Both cities are charming, give them a few years & you'll see. :) I can also proudly say that Balkan capitals are home to the most beautiful women on the planet. :wink

[Alexq]

Both cities are charming, give them a few years & you'll see. :) I can also proudly say that Balkan capitals are home to the most beautiful women on the planet. :wink

about the women part, keep it a secret ;) we dont want our countries packed with dudes from everywhere coming for only one thing lol just cause their women are ugly

[Minesweeper]

Sarajevo had it's charm before the war but it's not the same city today. You can occasionally see bearded men who could easily pass for an Afghan mujahedin or women, even younger, wearing hijabs and other stupid islamic clothing. City itself is beautiful with nice architectural mix. I would enjoy living in Sarajevo... if this was 1980.

Skopje has entire neighborhoods populated by Albanians, which is bad and makes it very bad for living because unrests and future ethnic conflicts inside the city are quite possible. In fact, they're already happening on smaller scale.

[Bosnjakinja]

^^Yes, mujahedeen will kill you in Sarajevo it's so dangerous for Serbs there :rolleyes:

I have been to Skopje, in some ways it reminds me of Sarajevo since it has both a modern part and a Oriental part. In Sarajevo the Bascarsija (old town) area is the prettiest, cleanest and most well kept part, while the old carsija in Skopje is much more run down and dirty.

On the other hand Makedonska Ulica in Skopje looks better then Ferhadija in Sarajevo but I also think Titova (stretch from Vjecna Vatra to BBI) looks better then Ferhadija.

Pluses for Sarajevo are Vrelo Bosne and Ilidza with the park and hotels, while for Skopje it seems more "open" because it isn't situated in a valley like Sarajevo. So the air quality is better in Skopje too.

[Bosnjakinja]

Bascarsija in Sarajevo:

http://i43.tinypic.com/p827m.jpg

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http://i39.tinypic.com/2qx2bza.jpg

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[Bosnjakinja]

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[Bosnjakinja]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488174_10151379083171110_2032933183_n.jpg

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/120707001.17_xl.jpg

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[Arbërori]

about the women part, keep it a secret ;) we dont want our countries packed with dudes from everywhere coming for only one thing lol just cause their women are ugly

You are so right! :eek: :P

[Cokolino]

I like Vilsonovo Promenade, where I learned to ride my bicycle, and had my first kiss :)

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8130/vils1.jpg

http://mojaslikasarajeva.net/assets/pic/photo/640x480/016c40ab3e8c0a8f03ed917f1752ea36_DSC_4521a.jpg



Some modern buildings;

http://www.integral-elektro.com/engleski/wp-content/gallery/bosmal-city-centar/bosmal-city-center-sarajevo2.jpg

http://www.unitic.ba/files/image/fotogalerija/IMG_6193.jpg

http://www.n24.ba/slike/Ekonomija/BiH/elektroprivreda-bih-111.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/Sarajevo_Twist_Tower.jpg/220px-Sarajevo_Twist_Tower.jpg

http://hisetours.com/wp-content/gallery/radon-plaza/turizam_radonplaza_4.jpg

I`m sure Skoplje is nice too :)

[Bosnjakinja]

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/BKBL/Sarajevo/CIMG1660.jpg

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/120406020.10_mn.jpg

http://depo.ba/media/pictures/2012/04/06/2058d97e0a8b5a79572c493ee69a2353.jpg

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5030144023_a903165818_b.jpg

[Cokolino]

Now, this is a beauty; :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TZqNxXm8OY/UNhKbH4680I/AAAAAAAAAPo/Lm5SPkDpIco/s1600/DSCF7869+-+Vijecnica++-za+cestitku.jpg

[Bosnjakinja]

Now, this is a beauty; :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TZqNxXm8OY/UNhKbH4680I/AAAAAAAAAPo/Lm5SPkDpIco/s1600/DSCF7869+-+Vijecnica++-za+cestitku.jpg
The Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra will hold a concert here when it will be reconstructed and reopened next year, on the anniversary of the beginning of WWI :)

[Cokolino]

More Pics from Sarajevo :)

http://www.sarajevocard.ba/portal/pix/discounts/Hotel_Europe_Sarajevo_01.jpg

http://visitmycountry.net/bosnia_herzegovina/bh/images/stories/vjerski_objekti/katolicki/sarajevo_katedrala/katedrala_srca_isusova_sarajevo_000.jpg

http://www.pivnica.net/ieNews/admin/RTE/my_documents/my_pictures/Sarajevska_pivara.jpg

http://www.sonar.ba/slike/BBI_01.jpg

http://www.sonar.ba/slike/bosnjacki_institut_1.jpg

http://www.alu.unsa.ba/files/imagecache/page_central_image/alu_0.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/42603360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/rmartinovic/KonakGlavniUlaz.jpg

[Szegedist]

I have no interest in going to either places anytime soon, but I would rather go to Bosnia than FYROM.


By the way, would you say that there is any Austro-Hungarian influence on the Architecture of Sarajevo?

[Bosnjakinja]

By the way, would you say that there is any Austro-Hungarian influence on the Architecture of Sarajevo?

Yes, there is a lot considering the small period they were here (just from 1878 to 1918). The entire main pedestrian street (Ferhadija + Titova) is Austro-Hungarian in architecture.

That's one of the advantages Sarajevo has over Skopje. Also Skopje had a big earthquake which ruined most old buildings.

[Cokolino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yQYBDULedE

:joy

[Szegedist]

From what I have seen of Skopje, it is an orgy of Alexander monuments left and right, and many of the new buildings reflect some sort Fyromian delusions of grandeur, and are built simply to impress and show off and to compensate for their lack of...

[Bosnjakinja]

Speaking of Austro-Hungarian architecture in Sarajevo, here are two hotels, Hungaria and Austria, built during the Austro-Hungarian rule. Under the communists Hotel Hungaria was called Hotel Srbija, but it was changed back after 1995:

http://i36.tinypic.com/imm2pv.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/4tx4bk.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/295zlz8.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/w6ph5d.jpg

[Corvus]

Speaking of Austro-Hungarian architecture in Sarajevo, here are two hotels, Hungaria and Austria, built during the Austro-Hungarian rule. Under the communists Hotel Hungaria was called Hotel Srbija, but it was changed back after 1995:

http://i36.tinypic.com/imm2pv.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/4tx4bk.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/295zlz8.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/w6ph5d.jpg

LOL a hotel named Austria in Bosnia. But you are right the architecture is very familiar to me ;)

[Szegedist]

Hotel Hungaria, I approve :D

[Arbërori]

Sarajevo looks better than Skopje, to be frank. :D It also looks cleaner, oh wait, there are Gypsies in Skopje... Damn it!

[Bosnjakinja]

Some more of Austro-Hungarian Sarajevo:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8026/7358954130_13c751fb0b_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7359023204_1182d1199b_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7173813209_cb08dfd782_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7224/7358865468_c114c17b2d_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7359065504_93704f3c36_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7083/7173655055_cc1307f6af_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7358875522_589bc73c1f_b.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/zx4daq.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/1zbffpw.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

Now, this is a beauty; :D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1TZqNxXm8OY/UNhKbH4680I/AAAAAAAAAPo/Lm5SPkDpIco/s1600/DSCF7869+-+Vijecnica++-za+cestitku.jpg

Meni izgleda vise orijentalna,znal ko odakle "inspiracija" ?


edit:sad sam nasla da je maurska arhitektura inspiracija :D

[Bosnjakinja]

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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6206/6120619540_a43ecf30c6_b.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

http://www.kanton-sarajevo.eu/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_20367_323482391919_317683101919_4016 888_3405547_n.jpg

http://www.kanton-sarajevo.eu/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_248645_10150194181196920_31768310191 9_7402668_3989817_n.jpg

http://www.kanton-sarajevo.eu/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_26530_357928206919_317683101919_4120 854_2865925_n.jpg

http://www.kanton-sarajevo.eu/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_art%20accademy.jpg

http://www.kanton-sarajevo.eu/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_27105_386712471919_317683101919_4412 454_1561722_n.jpg

[blabla]

Sarajevo izgleda fino sa ovih slika, samo da ne bude "dzaba ste krecili".

[Lena]

Each city has it's own unique charm and pace, to compare two cities influenced in a different ways is pointless.

[Pontios]

They are both nice cities I guess, but I think Skopje is a bit better, they even have a huge statue of Greeks such as Alexander the Great! :D Amazing statue guys!

[InTouch]

Each city has it's own unique charm and pace, to compare two cities influenced in a different ways is pointless.

I agree. But I think the person who made this thread thought both cities are ugly and worth mocking. When in reality, both Skopje and Sarajevo, despite their troubled past, are being rebuilt and will catch up to the rest of Europe soon.

[Methmatician]

I agree. But I think the person who made this thread thought both cities are ugly and worth mocking. When in reality, both Skopje and Sarajevo, despite their troubled past, are being rebuilt and will catch up to the rest of Europe soon.

Probably not. Western Europe will always be ahead of the former Yugoslav states.

[Grizzly]

Sarejevo has the history behind it but Skopje is actually a very good city.

[Methmatician]

Sarejevo has the history behind it but Skopje is actually a very good city.

Skopje is much older than Sarajevo.

[Grizzly]

Skopje is much older than Sarajevo.

Sure in terms of date of settlements but Skopje was pretty much destroyed after the 1963 earthquake so I consider it "newer"

Not to mention Sarajevo hosted the Olympics and was know to be a multi-ethnic/religious city for centuries(up until the war)

[Bosnjakinja]

http://www.zaslike.com/files/m5iozmimmpu3dzh51g0.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1844/sarajevopanorama2.jpg

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http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/BKBL/Sarajevo/CIMG0682.jpg

[Bosnjakinja]

A video with air shots from Sarajevo and also Mostar and Konjic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2QwEyV2yM

[Bosnjakinja]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/290896003_2e5c8ca01a_b.jpg

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[Bosnjakinja]

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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7650954226_9386b471b3_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/7697812270_1f4fb8f0fd_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7697753802_1bbc725cda_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2612/5738257752_3c464eef3f_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8143/7527264588_d7203a7683_b.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

Didnt expect Sarajevo to have such a decent architecture. I see no scars of the war in the photos.

[Bosnjakinja]

I have chosen to present the most pretty sides of the city in this thread (because of the title and prejudices)

War remnants are still visible in the city.

[Hurrem sultana]

Bosnjakinja is back :D

[Bosnjakinja]

:P

[Bosnjakinja]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5904/img3193copy.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/923289_374046222706817_2095226446_n.jpg

http://s16.postimg.org/dpkxxrxdx/DSC01059.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/793847_279519075507422_467424043_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/774761_279519048840758_1159862069_o.jpg

http://www.radiosarajevo.ba/img/w/600/upload/images/gallery/foto/042013/setnja/IMG_8144.JPG

http://www.radiosarajevo.ba/img/w/600/upload/images/gallery/foto/042013/setnjabeharcvijece/IMG_4553.jpg

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/213/598g.jpg

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/130403114.4_xl.jpg

[Arbërori]

U Sarajevu bi bilo zanimljivo zivjeti... Time to make some Muslim love! :P