Slovenia a balkan country?

[TheForeigner]

Do you consider Slovenia a balkan(southeast and south european) country or a central european one? I am not sure, but tend to think southern because it's south of the main chain of the Alps, has a part of the dinaric mountains and adriatic coast line, not to mention a substantial part is in the Balkan peninsula. Also what other south slavic people is not a balkan people? What do you think and explain why.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Balkan is worthless label. In reality Balkan is where Slavic, Middle Eastern and Mediterranean cultures intersect. Most Balkan country for that reason would be Bulgaria and Macedonia.

[Xanthias]

middle eastern ?

[Bloodnigger]

middle eastern ?

Turkish cultural influence which was heavily based in byzantine influence which in turn received a lot of the eastern roman helleno-near eastern as well as persian influence.

Don't forget that the Seleucids and the Sassanids had a major impact in Syria and Mesopotamia which were the scientific and cultural centers of the middle and later roman world.

[StormBringer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2kxXoc0SIA

#Slovenian #Viennese #stable #boys

[Insuperable]

A Central European country.

[Geni]

:rolleyes: these South Slavs who behave like Germans...patetic

[Han Cholo]

Inbetween Balkan and Central I'd say.

[Sikeliot]

Central European. I hesitate to even call Croatia "Balkan".

[Stefan_Dusan]

these south slav that behave like germans...patetic

Maybe better comparison is Czechs. Fellow slavs, and very similar to Slovenes. They are very mild mannered, orderly, and not what is stereotype of Balkan.

[Geni]

Central European. I hesitate to even call Croatia "Balkan".

Why ...Croatia and Slovenia are Balkans..

[Sikeliot]

Why ...Croatia and Slovenia are Balkans..

Croatia lacks many of the cultural influences that all other Balkan countries have, and they are more linked to Central Europe and Italy.

[Geni]

Albania is full italian influence,culture, all...,now Albania is not Balkan ?

[Bloodnigger]

Albania is full italian influence,culture, all...,now Albania is not Balkan ?

Well, for most of the middle and modern period, albania and co were part of the byzantine and ottoman empires whereas croatia and slovenia were under austria's sphere, so some differences in general outlook and survival values would develop.

[SKYNET]

Central Euro


http://rossrightangle.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/slovenia.jpg

[TheForeigner]

Croatia lacks many of the cultural influences that all other Balkan countries have, and they are more linked to Central Europe and Italy.

Aren't they at least geographically Balkan or Southern European?

[TheForeigner]

I think of all Yugoslavia and succesor states as Balkan, at least geographically.

[StormBringer]

Croatia lacks many of the cultural influences that all other Balkan countries have, and they are more linked to Central Europe and Italy.
Have no fear, Vuco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c2cv6MqbA) is here!

Slovenia is slowly being Balkanized by gastarbeiters as well.

What does a Bosnian do when he reaches adulthood?Goes to Slovenia in search of work!
What does a Slovenian do when he reaches adulthood?Goes to Bosnia is search of his biological father!

[Sikeliot]

Have no fear, Vuco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c2cv6MqbA) is here!



Sounds more Polish than Balkan.

When I think "Balkan" music, I will always use this as an example, since it's an Albanian song that has been repackaged and translated into Greek, and I can't imagine it being from elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1VF7C8vrmc

[Alenka]

Have no fear, Vuco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c2cv6MqbA) is here!
Slovenia is slowly being Balkanized by gastarbeiters as well.

What does a Bosnian do when he reaches adulthood?Goes to Slovenia in search of work!
What does a Slovenian do when he reaches adulthood?Goes to Bosnia is search of his biological father!

Daddy! Nice to finally meet you... :cry2
:D

[Insuperable]

Have no fear, Vuco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81c2cv6MqbA) is here!

Slovenia is slowly being Balkanized by gastarbeiters as well.

So Vuco is the best thing you can come up with? Vuco is a local phenomenon, a joke, rather than a rule, especially his music for a region.

[Peyrol]

South Slavic with an heavy central european (and Adriatic, so venetic-furlanish) influence.

[StormBringer]

So Vuco is the best thing you can come up with? Vuco is a local phenomenon, a joke, rather than a rule, especially his music for a region.

Severina and Rozga?They don't sound different to me than "our" stuff that gets played in night clubs.

Vuco is not a joke, Vuco is a way of life!

[cally]

I've been there and it felt similar to Czech Republic, Swiss or even Hungary. Different to Southern Balkans but still traditional and homely feel to it. So I would say it has Central European feel to it as a whole with some "Balkan" influence due to proximity and shared history.

[StormBringer]

All jokes asides, yes, the Croatians don't feel Balkan to me (and I'm just talking about ones from Slavonia, which is like freaking 10 miles away from me).They're usually condensing towards us and make trips into Bosnia seem like safari when they come here, and frankly speaking they come off quite queer with their speech.

[TheForeigner]

I tend to think Balkan area is just a geographic region with much cultural,religious and ethnic diversity. It has been ruled by many empires and divided by them often, so you get many influences, that are not evenly spread and not all peoples and countries have to be the same.

[Peyrol]

Slovenes must re-join to their original Fatherland:


http://www.regionalstorefvg.com/image/cache/data/gadget/adesivi/adesivo-rettangolare-friuli-600x600.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ryJQFocfJkc/Ts4vVhMJunI/AAAAAAAADaI/m_BtnqfGw0Q/s1600/MappaFriuli.bmp

[TheForeigner]

[QUOTE=Peyrol;2949539]Slovenes must re-join to their original Fatherland:


http://www.regionalstorefvg.com/image/cache/data/gadget/adesivi/adesivo-rettangolare-friuli-600x600.jpg

Their original fatherland was Holy Roman Empire and later the Habsburg Monarchy, if we don't consider the relatively short lived slavic realm of Caranthania.

[Peyrol]

Their original fatherland was Holy Roman Empire and later the Habsburg Monarchy, if we don't consider the relatively short lived slavic realm of Caranthania.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

[Insuperable]

Severina and Rozga?They don't sound different to me than "our" stuff that gets played in night clubs.

The music of those three (I doubt you can come up with the fourth one and that joke of a song of Vuco there is particularly Balkan sounding) is certainly the most Balkan influenced, but quite far from some of your stuff you won't find there.

You won't find shit like this there:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shKzVrHS0bc&list=PLIEbWkouXLBtsmwa6lMRCMTWSGirkhv_P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8NBf_LfBwY&list=PLpX3tYMWtY-rJUSv_08kAtRTEcuAbYTt9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EowvvM32RU

The shit above is widely popular across Balkans except in Croatia where it has the least support, especially in southern regions ironically. You won't find people singing that shit in front of TV here. Others try to equate Severina's and Rozga's singing with this shit. :laugh:

The most widely spread type of music from where Vuco, Rozga and Severina are from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3Vop8eCMM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wCRXDGwam4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0HumjR-guQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJN6TDkQCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0gGaK32Uk
Or just take a look at many other
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dalmatinski+mix

[TheForeigner]

Is the Slovene language closer to Czech and classed as South Slavic just because of geographic proximity or what?

[Dombra]

They are at the fringe of Balkan and lack craziness. I will still call them Balkanic but not southern.

[StormBringer]

The music of those three (I doubt you can come up with the fourth one and that joke of a song of Vuco there is particularly Balkan sounding) is certainly the most Balkan influenced, but quite far from some of your stuff you won't find there.

The shit above is widely popular across Balkans except in Croatia where it has the least support, especially in southern regions ironically. You won't find people singing that shit in front of TV here. Others try to equate Severina's and Rozga's singing with this shit.

The most widely spread type of music from where Vuco, Rozga and Severina are from:

Muh culture!

[Insuperable]

Is the Slovene language closer to Czech and classed as South Slavic just because of geographic proximity or what?

I think it is classed as a South Slavic language because of reasons which have nothing to do with geography, but still that is not important since it is still a more Central European country.

[TheForeigner]

I think it is classed as a South Slavic language because of reasons which have nothing to do with geography, but still that is not important since it is still a more Central European country.

That small part that you say is only Balkan is not that small a part of a small country. It is south of Alps just like North Italy, right next to it. To me Balkan is just geographic region. Of course catholic and ex-habsburg Slovenia is not like Greece,Albania or Bulgaria.

[TheForeigner]

They are at the fringe of Balkan and lack craziness. I will still call them Balkanic but not southern.
Balkan countries are southern too.

[Dombra]

Balkan countries are southern too.

Slovenia is not southern it is central

Slovenia is Balkanic

Balkan can therefore be central instead of southern as well

[TheForeigner]

Slovenia is not southern it is central

Slovenia is Balkanic

Balkan can therefore be central instead of southern as well
No, it can't.The Balkan peninsula is a fully South European region.

[Insuperable]

That small part that you say is only Balkan is not that small a part of a small country. It is south of Alps just like North Italy, right next to it. To me Balkan is just geographic region. Of course catholic and ex-habsburg Slovenia is not like Greece,Albania or Bulgaria.

Your thread is related to geography, but it seems some people missed the point. However, your question is not easy to answer. Geographically Slovenia is overwhemingly a Central European country. For some it may not be Balkans, but is still seen as a Southern European country.

[Brighton]

I've been to Slovenia and it's more similar to Austria than to Croatia..

[cocoNN]

That is true that Slovenia as far as the nature, architecture and maybe even culture is closer to Austria and Italy, but mentality of the people is closer to Balkan than Austrians. It is somehow between: hard-working people, but not so much as Austrians. Still like to sit around at caffes, don't worry 'so much' - closer to Balkan.

I would say that Slovenia is South-Central Europe.

[Zezak]

hmm..east europe?? isn't it?

[alb0zfinest]

In terms of mindset they are Balkan.
In terms of economy, they are central European.

[DRUM]

Geography- half Central half Balkan

Mentality - I wouldn't say its Balkan, there isn't that temperamental mentality, less lazy, no ottoman influence that's everywhere else on the Balkans

[Skipetar]

no, it's colombian

[Insuperable]

Yea, I bet you would like that right?

What does me liking it or not has to do with anything and why would I like it? I am just saying they are more of a Central European country. Maybe I should say that for you because you want for people to see them as something else.

[Borna]

Central Europeans, literally miserable Balkan influence, almost none. Except if it was brought by numerous Serb and Bosniak immigrants.
If Slovaks and Czechs are Central Europeans so are Slovenians.

Mentally/culturally/phenotypically wise.

[Instinct]

Central European mostly I think, maybe a bit Balkan.

[wvwvw]

Το me both Slovenia and Croatia are Balkan countries. The Balkans is not a monolithic culture but consists of diverse cultures.

[Borna]

Most of people probably had F in Geography during their schooling.
By your logic both Slovenia and Bulgaria are Balkans.

[Borna]

https://www.google.si/maps/vt/data=U4aSnIyhBFNIJ3A8fCzUmaVIwyWq6RtIfB4QKiGq_w,cr IdVeY6ruRXzW6N9gI0WENgBgj_XJ-kESJgQU0-RXTWEyn35_nDldy3NdVP_8jVamBusyd6fuTZowgFaHz3dhjgeW E7mNrXrX8VnxvGRjLmWlJJjnStsO8v2fmVId6Z1juT4Uo3lpdG lRrmkinoWAxoV1IzFbH8NZ-Y-PVwXEPQzQfzyUvmqUK6jwhFqIaNuJa0Rn_nOjTG77b8xQ

what seems to be confusing you??? :D

knock yourself out:

https://www.google.si/search?q=balkan&rlz=1C1AVNC_enSI577SI577&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=clRSVKfMEcrvaIWhgJgL&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=673#imgdii=_

Ouch, guess that makes it 2-0 for me, keep gobbling my cock


Daj mi još jedan thumbs jebem ti mater četničku budem te zatrpao. Te mape kaj si postao, pogledaj gdije je Slovenia idiote imigrantski.