Japan may receive offensive military weapons from US

[Ars Moriendi]

Japan may receive offensive military weapons from US amid rising tensions with China, N. Korea

http://rt.com/usa/186796-japan-us-offensive-military-capabilities/

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Japanese Defense Ministry wants to buy six F35 stealth fighter planes from US firm Lockheed Martin.(Reuters / William Waterstreet)

The United States could provide offensively geared weapons to the Japanese military within five years, Tokyo officials say. The discussions between the two countries come as Japan’s rivalry with China intensifies and alliances shift among Pacific powers.

The talks with the US cover what Japan regards as a "strike capability," and are still preliminary. As such, they do not cover specific hardware at this stage, three Japanese officials involved in the process told Reuters. US officials said there were no formal discussions between the two countries, but did not rule out the possibility that informal talks on the issue had taken place. One American official said Japan had approached the US informally last year about the matter.

Japan would need US backing for any shift in military doctrine because it would change the framework of the alliance, often described as America supplying the "sword" of forward-based troops and nuclear deterrence while Japan holds the defensive "shield."

Washington did not have a position on upgrading Japan's offensive capabilities, "in part because the Japanese have not developed a specific concept or come to us with a specific request." said another US official.

"We're not there yet - and they're not there yet," the official said. "We're prepared to have that conversation when they're ready."

Pivot from pacifism

Since the end of World War II, Japan’s constitution has required it to be a pacifist nation. Article 9 of the 1947 founding charter proclaimed Japan’s armed forces are technically domestic self-defense units, and cannot participate even in United Nation-backed conflicts, other than as peacekeepers. But reshaping the military into a more assertive force is a core policy of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was elected to the position for a second time at the end of 2012.

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (R) reviews Japanese Self-Defence Forces' (SDF) troops during the annual SDF ceremony at Asaka Base in Asaka, near Tokyo, in this October 27, 2013 file photo. (Reuters//Issei Kato/Files)

In July, Japan’s Cabinet reversed Article 9. Under the landmark "reinterpretation" (a legal repeal would require two-thirds of the votes of the parliament) Japanese troops could be deployed if “there is a clear existential threat to Japan and if people’s right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness could be fundamentally overturned,” said Abe.

Since entering office, Abe also reversed a decade of military spending cuts and eased curbs on arms exports. The boosted defense budget is the biggest it’s ever been, allowing the country to pay for drones, stealth fighters and a new high-tech submarine. In its first military export deal in decades, Japan and the US agreed that Japanese-made sensors will be installed on American PAC-2 missile defense systems, to be further re-exported to Qatar. The moves come amid an intensifying military rivalry with China and concerns over North Korea’s missile program.

Sino-Japanese hostility

China has accused Abe of reviving wartime militarism, Reuters reported. The two countries are jockeying for favor from strategically important Pacific nations, including Sri Lanka. In a recent visit to the island country, Abe and Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa agreed to strengthen maritime security cooperation and participate in joint naval training exercises, The Yomiuri Shimbun reported. Japan will also provide Sri Lanka with patrol vessels to improve the country’s coast guard. Those boats will come at no cost to the South Asian nation.

At the same time, China has been assisting the construction of port facilities in Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and other nations. The Chinese hope to eventually establish military bases overseas.

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A Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force Type 74 armoured tank fires during an annual training session (Reuters/Yuya Shino)

A new survey conducted in both China and Japan gives a glimpse into how tense the Sino-Japanese relationship has become over the last two years. According to the poll by Genron NPO, a Tokyo-based nonprofit group, 53.4 percent of Chinese envisage a future conflict, with more than a fifth of those saying it would happen "within a few years," while 29 percent of Japanese can see military confrontation. Last year, 90 percent of Japanese respondents said they had a negative impression of China. This year that percentage jumped to 93.

Despite the mutual dislike, people on both sides hoped tensions would ease.

When asked to characterize the current situation, 80 percent of Japanese respondents chose either “This is an undesirable situation, and I have concerns” or “The situation is a problem and it needs to be improved.” In China, about 70 percent of survey-takers selected the same answers.

Japan has scrambled its planes over 400 times in the past year to ward off Chinese ships circling the archipelago.

Unease over North Korea

Tensions have also been rising between Japan and North Korea. Most of the Japan’s archipelago of islands is within range of North Korea’s Rodong missiles. Part of Japan's motivation for upgrading its capabilities is a nagging suspicion that the United States, with some 28,000 troops in South Korea as well as 38,000 in Japan, might hesitate to attack the North in a crisis, Japanese experts said.

"[Japan] might want to maintain some kind of limited strike capability in order to be able to initiate a strike, so that we can tell the Americans, 'unless you do the job for us, we will have to do it on our own’,” said Narushige Michishita, a security expert at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo. He served as a national security adviser to the Japanese government from 2004 to 2006.

Michishita’s analysis is similar to a comment Abe made to the Japanese parliament in May 2013. "At this moment is it really acceptable for Japan to have to plead with the U.S. to attack a missile threatening to attack Japan?" Abe asked.

Japan would like to reach a conclusion over its offensive military capabilities in about five years, and then start acquiring hardware, a Japanese official said.


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Latest chapter in NATO's Asian Pivot.

[TheGoldenSon]

It would be smarter for them restart their own native military industrial complex and establish a nuclear deterrent policy.

[Ars Moriendi]

It would be smarter for them restart their own native military industrial complex and establish a nuclear deterrent policy.

In an unrestricted scenario, absolutely.

The problem is that the current Japanese polity (since 1945) is throughly and profoundly coopted and bent towads systematic cooperation with the US. In the article itself, the very question of whether or not Japan should progressively get a more important role in power projection over the Asia Pacific, is assumed to necessarily require "consultation", with the American military in the region.

Unfortunately for them it seems, the current fearmongering has made escalation the only process going on, hardly criticism of where they currently stand. In other words, Japan has apparently relinquished control over its own fate.

Still, not everything happens in the same direction. A couple of days ago, the Japanese people managed to reverse a project trying to build yet another American base in the country.

Here's a note about it:

US military suffers Japan base setback
http://rt.com/news/185868-japan-military-us-opposition/

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Four Sea Knight transport helicopters and a Super Stallion helicopter are parked at Marine Corps Air Station Futenma in Ginowan on Okinawa May 3, 2010. (Reuters/Toru Hanai)

Opponents of a new American military base in Japan won a key victory on Sunday. Candidates against the idea now have a majority in Noga's city assembly, as they look to block the construction of the new facility in the Okinawa Prefecture.

The assembly in the city of Noga now contains 16 members out of a total of 27 who are against the relocation of a US base from Futenma. They are both located in the Okinawa Prefecture - Japan’s southernmost district, made up of some of the Ryukyu Islands. The facility is situated in a densely-populated urban area in southern Okinawa. However, the government wants to move it to Noga, a smaller city to the north that already hosts Camp Schwab, another US Marine base.

The results will please the Nago Mayor Susumu Inamine, who is resolutely against the construction of the new military base. There has been significant local opposition to the relocation of the facility and the re-election of Inamine in January by a wide margin was effectively a de facto referendum on the US facility.

“Why should only Okinawa hold the burden for security of all of Japan, when the presence of US Marines doesn’t play a big role in deterring China?” Inamine, said in May, whilst on a visit to Washington, DC. “I, as mayor, have operational control over two ports that are needed for use as construction landfill and I will exercise all powers in the municipality to block access.”

Voter turnout at the assembly vote on Sunday was 70 percent, showing there is strong local interest surrounding the base. The results will come as a blow to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who is in favor of the relocation move, as he sees the US presence as a needed deterrent against China.

On April 24, Abe and US President Barack Obama “affirmed the resolve on both sides” to make “steady progress” on transferring the Marine base in Futenma.

The estimated cost of the relocation is about $8.6 billion, and Japan will cover $3.1 billion of that sum.

In December 2013, the governor of Okinawa, Hirokazu Nakaima agreed to the base’s relocation in return for large-scale funds from Tokyo, which he hoped would be used to revitalize the local economy. In August, Japan’s Ministry of Defense started a drilling survey off the coast of Nago to prepare for the building of the base, which was to be built on a landfill site.

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Hercules aircraft are parked on the tarmac at Marine Corps Air Station Futenma in Ginowan on Okinawa May 3, 2010. (Reuters/Issei Kato)

Tokyo and Washington are negotiating multiple plans regarding the relocation, according to the Japan Daily Press. One is to allow Japanese authorities to enter US bases for environmental checks and other official purposes, which Tokyo believes will complement the existing Status of Forces Agreement. Another is to advance the return of land where Futenma is currently, which is now scheduled for 2022.

In addition, Japan is suggesting that US exercises involving the controversial MV-22 Osprey transport aircraft occur in several locations - not just in Okinawa.

The United States agreed in 2006 to move the base to the coast, but local opposition prevented the potential shift. Anti-base sentiment and concern about US military operations at Futenma has long been an emotionally charged issue in Okinawa.

Japan hosts some 50,000 American soldiers and officers, particularly in Okinawa. Their presence is a constant source of tension with local populations due to crimes committed by the servicemen, disruptions caused by military flights and land use by the US forces.

For instance, last October, a local woman was raped by US military personnel. The incident provoked anger among locals and forced the American military to enforce a curfew upon its service members. The incident led to protests by outraged locals, while due to the seriousness of the case, it was held in a Japanese court. 24-year-old Seaman Christopher Browning was sentenced to 10 years behind bars, while 23-year-old Petty Officer 3rdClass Skyler Dozierwalker received nine years’ imprisonment.

The Okinawa prefecture, which is the southernmost Japanese district, is strategically vital to the US military given its proximity to the rest of Asia. The islands accounts for less than 1 percent of Japan’s total territory, but hosts about half the 38,000 US military personnel stationed in Japan.

[TheGoldenSon]

All the Japanese need is a dramatic act of Chinese aggression, which in view of the recent events is coming sooner than later, to show that their only hope of survival is rapid militarization and all with a proper media blitz any opposition to that prospect will be extinguished in a tsunami of Japanese nationalism.

[RandoBloom]

Excellent news, Japan needs to start taking care of itself.
Cant wait to se something like this :D
http://i.imgur.com/TwaD2.jpg

[Ars Moriendi]

All the Japanese need is a dramatic act of Chinese aggression, which in view of the recent events is coming sooner than later, to show that their only hope of survival is rapid militarization and all with a proper media blitz any opposition to that prospect will be extinguished in a tsunami of Japanese nationalism.

That may account for a conventional military asset build-up, yes. And there's even a slight chance that they may attempt to weaponize their nuclear reactors, yes, but that's already a long shot.

But the main point, will not be considered in the least: Foreign policy autonomy and the end of the subjugation to the US they've endured for the last 70 years. Even France, with nuclear weapons, has little or no diplomatic weight now.

Fear and escalation will likely even push them more towards the US, which kind of explains why the Western media has used such an apocalyptic tone regarding the Senkakku affair (note I use the Japanese name).

I don't know, it seems the events in Asia are already in a course that will most likely be impossible to change. The complete breakdown of the Japanese currency, the Senkakku claims, the rivalry in Sri Lanka and in SE Asia, along with the relocation of massive NATO resources to the Pacific, means that the blocs will only get strengthened, granting more power to those directing them from afar, all in preparation for the showdown.

[TheGoldenSon]

That may account for a conventional military asset build-up, yes. And there's even a slight chance that they may attempt to weaponize their nuclear reactors, yes, but that's already a long shot.

But the main point, will not be considered in the least: Foreign policy autonomy and the end of the subjugation to the US they've endured for the last 70 years. Even France, with nuclear weapons, has little or no diplomatic weight now.

Fear and escalation will likely even push them more towards the US, which kind of explains why the Western media has used such an apocalyptic tone regarding the Senkakku affair (note I use the Japanese name).

I don't know, it seems the events in Asia are already in a course that will most likely be impossible to change. The complete breakdown of the Japanese currency, the Senkakku claims, the rivalry in Sri Lanka and in SE Asia, along with the relocation of massive NATO resources to the Pacific, means that the blocs will only get strengthened, granting more power to those directing them from afar, all in preparation for the showdown.

New generations have come my friend, those no longer limited by the stigma of WW2.

While for the militarization of their nuclear program, they need a president which will come trough breaking the first taboos imposed to them by Americans. Even they themselves see that the coming political implosion on the North American continent and the demographic collapse of Russia which will lead to abolishment of the Russian state for a decade or so while the new powers that will be consilidate their power. While for China they just need to make a coalition of states (Indonesia, Malaysia, bits of Indochina) whose intrests and teritorial integrety is threatened by China's rise. Imagine a modern version of the Athenian Alliance, an East Asian NATO aimed at stoping China.

[TheGoldenSon]

precident*

I am sorry, this autocorrect thing is killing me and for some reason I can't edit my posts.

[Kemalisté]

So Japan is preparing to abandon its traditional pacifist stance. Very bad. Shinzo Abe is a warmonger like Erdogan.

[TheGoldenSon]

So Japan is preparing to abandon its traditional pacifist stance. Very bad. Shinzo Abe is a warmonger like Erdogan.

And I am quite sure that Kemal was peacefully protesting with general strikes and sitins as Greeks were carving out Western Turkey and Istanbul.

[Ars Moriendi]

New generations have come my friend, those no longer limited by the stigma of WW2.

While for the militarization of their nuclear program, they need a president which will come trough breaking the first taboos imposed to them by Americans. Even they themselves see that the coming political implosion on the North American continent and the demographic collapse of Russia which will lead to abolishment of the Russian state for a decade or so while the new powers that will be consilidate their power. While for China they just need to make a coalition of states (Indonesia, Malaysia, bits of Indochina) whose intrests and teritorial integrety is threatened by China's rise. Imagine a modern version of the Athenian Alliance, an East Asian NATO aimed at stoping China.


I normally don't like to make hypothetic forecasts, but I'll give it a try for this thread's sake.

If the US indeed withdrew from the region, following the collapse you suggest, it'd be an unprecedented context, since the politics of the Asia Pacific haven't been exclusively "Asian" if you will, ever since the Portuguese arrived there to establish ports, trade gunpowder and try to evangelize.

Nowadays, Europe has very little weight in Asia, specially since both Singapour and Hong Kong no longer answer to London, but their derivation, the Americans, have been rising exponentially since 1898 when they occupied the Phillipines has become the main factor behind all the geopolitical developments in that area of the world. The promoter of the Eight-Nation Alliance, joint anti-German bloc in WWI around China, the taunting against Japan in the 30s, the leading force during WWII and the overlord of the reconstruction and the new strongmen (Marcos and Suharto come to mind)...

It'd be a whole new world if only Asian interests were left in the area. I know Vietnam has always been profundly Sinophobic historically (except for the time they had some support during the XX Century), and I suppose it could potentially try to side with South Korea/Japan/Taiwan. Bu for the rest of SE Asia, it's just too doubtful, both Thailand and Myanmar/Burma have a long trajectory of working with China, and weaker States like Laos and Cambodia are just too dependent on a big market for their raw materials to really side away from the Chinese.

I'd guess that the true question would be what would happen with what I'd refer to as "the island group" of Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapour. It's doubtful they'd be too interested in becoming a Chinese satellite, but if their ASEAN-voting behaviour can shed any light, it'd very probable they'd stick to neutrality in any intra-Asian conflict.

I simply don't know enough about Phillipines, Bhutan, East Timor and other minor countries to really give a proper opinion on them, but I'd wager they'd simply become trading posts easily blockaded and whose foreign policy would practically depend entirely on what side would seem stronger.

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But sticking to the real topic, and the current situation, none of this is actually good for Japan, even if it'd feel like it in terms of publicity and short term nationalism.


Dark days ahead I assure you, and this comes from TA's Bringer of Ill Tidings :)

[ALSh]

Everyone is hurring to get armed resenlty :fencing:

[Ars Moriendi]

So Japan is preparing to abandon its traditional pacifist stance. Very bad. Shinzo Abe is a warmonger like Erdogan.

Abe is Khoizumi's disciple. A blend of fake nationalism and stunt moves (shrine visits come to mind), along with complete alignment to the US geopolitical directives.
I remember him when he first got power transferred by his mentor around 2005 or 2006 I think. He did awfully.

It'd seem his bet nowadays is to pursue suicidal but popular measures, like his monetary policy has been. I'd not be surprised if he had a similar outlook in military matters. Short term popular results, sacrificing any possibility of real long term prosperity.

Research what he did with the yen. Never once had I seen a monetary suicide so gruesome.

[ALSh]

Meanwhile in east Russia 100.000 soldiers taking part in drills...http://rt.com/news/187080-russia-surprise-drill-far-east/

http://rt.com/files/news/2d/ac/80/00/4.jpg

[Ars Moriendi]

Meanwhile in east Russia 100.000 soldiers taking part in drills...http://rt.com/news/187080-russia-surprise-drill-far-east/

http://rt.com/files/news/2d/ac/80/00/4.jpg

Excellent finding.
I didn't the know Russian Far East was getting that sort of surge. Thank you for adding it. I'll snoop around see if I can check what China, India, and maybe Indonesia are up to.

So many things to study, so little time...

[Ars Moriendi]

Halloween update for the Japanese military build-up:

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Scrapping Japan’s Pacifist Constitution? Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s Ongoing Militarization Campaign

By Saul Takahashi

http://www.globalresearch.ca/scrapping-japans-pacifist-constitution-prime-minister-shinzo-abes-ongoing-militarization-campaign/5411090

The efforts of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to change Japan’s pacifist Constitution has received much attention overseas. This attention is very justified, and one hopes it will continue. However, most foreign media outlets fail to convey just how dramatically, and how rapidly, the public debate in Japan is heading in the wrong direction. Abe has essentially declared war on all aspects of Japan’s pacifism, and the results can only be disastrous – for the country and for the world.

An early September feature in the influential Japanese weekly Bungei Shunju (http://hon.bunshun.jp/articles/-/2668) shows how dramatically public debate in Japan has changed in recent years. Ruka Miura, a young conservative academic with close ties to the current government, argues openly for a return to conscription in Japan, saying that “sharing the cost of blood” is the only way to link democracy and pacifism. Astoundingly, Miura puts forward Israel as a good example, where an “advanced level of democracy” ensures that the citizenry, well acquainted with the reality of war, leads pacifist movements. Clearly Miura didn’t get the memo about the latest Israeli offensive in Gaza, where brutal attacks that lead to over 2100 Palestinian deaths (at least 70% of whom, according to the UN (http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/humanitarian_snapshot_8september_2014_opt_v4.pdf), were non combatants) were supported by orgiastic mobs throughout Israel, chanting “death to the Arabs” and attacking antiwar demonstrations (http://972mag.com/unprecedented-violence-stalks-anti-war-demos-across-israel/94530/). On the other hand, the reference to Israel of a shining example of democracy is indicative of the climate in the current government – Israeli PM Netanyahu visited Japan in May 2014, and he and Abe agreed to strengthen “defence” relations (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/05/12/national/japan-israel-to-boost-defense-cooperation/#.VENfr4dc3q0).

Pacifism has long been the main pillar of Japanese post-war democracy, both abroad and at home. However, successive right wing governments, and in particular the current Abe government, have been remarkably successful at advancing a right wing agenda that, collectively, could lead to an end to pacifist Japan as we know it. The question of the reintroduction of conscription goes far beyond just one article in a conservative magazine. Leading politicians in several parties, including (but not confined to) the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, now talk openly about the desirability of conscription (http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201408130012) – a topic that would have been political suicide only ten years ago. Economic leaders, for their part, have proposed military “internships” for students having difficulties in repaying heavy university fee debts (http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~shogaku/gazo/news80.pdf). Crudely put, attempts are being made at creating the façade of a public consensus.
(http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/07/japan-decision-war-201475142233628897.html)
The LDP has always wanted to change the pacifist Japanese constitution, which in its famed Article 9 “forever [renounces] war as a sovereign right of the nation”. Indeed, the LDP has published a draft revised constitution (http://www.jimin.jp/policy/policy_topics/pdf/seisaku-109.pdf) that would finally do away with its hated Article 9, replacing it with broader, more expansive provisions. The LDP’s draft constitution also reads like something suited for a despot dictatorial regime, with sweeping restrictions on fundamental rights, an obligation to respect the flag and the national anthem, and a free hand for the government to torture criminal suspects.

Nevertheless, there are major hurdles to changing the constitution in Japan, including a 2/3 majority in both houses of parliament and majority public support in a referendum. Seeing that this would take too much time, in July 2014, the Abe cabinet simply changed the government interpretation of Article 9 (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/15/national/politics-diplomacy/abe-eyes-fixed-law-for-sdf-overseas/#.VENguYdc3q0), to allow the exercise of collective self defence – i.e. to enable Japanese forces to engage in battle if the forces of an allied country are attacked. Successive governments had always stated that collective self defence was prohibited by the constitution, because of the clear “slippery slope” that such a situation would entail. Abe has done away with decades of policy in one fell swoop, effectively engaging in a backdoor constitution change.

The government published examples of how the new policy would work in real life situations, many of which have been noted by experts as both legally and logically questionable. (http://peace.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1403005731/l50) More tellingly, all of the examples are positive, i.e. all of them show situations where the use of Japanese military forces would be allowed, with no examples of when this would remain legally prohibited. At the same time, the government has also stated that a steady flow of oil to the country is vital for the “survival of the nation” (http://peace.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1405390109/), and therefore that Japanese military forces could be sent to the Middle East for this purpose. It is clear that the government wants a carte blanche to engage in military interventions abroad with the United States – and the arbitrarily designed Designated Secrets Act (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/05/whistleblowers-japan-crackdown-state-secrets), which was adopted in December 2013 amid howls of protest within the country and by the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, will ensure a shutdown of public debate on any military “secrets”.

Abe has also scrapped the longstanding Japanese government policy against the export of weapons, again without adequate explanation or democratic process. A little over a month after this announcement, it was announced that the Vice Minister for Defence would accompany Japanese military industry manufacturers at the Paris Weapons Fair in June (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/06/16/national/japanese-companies-debut-international-defense-fair/#.VENjqYdc3q0). In early July, the first weapons deal was announced (http://rt.com/news/170744-japan-military-export-deal/), with Mitsubishi Heavy Industry would provide high tech parts for the American PAC-2 missile (which will in turn be exported by the US to Qatar, and wherever else it may see fit). It is difficult not to conclude that much of this had been in the works for a long time. The new global merchant of death has arrived.

Military intervention abroad, weapons export, and conscription are the next step. Japan is clearly moving towards scrapping its pacifist principles, and returning back to its militaristic past. Though many in the country (on both sides of the political camp) cite rising security tensions with a more assertive China as the cause of Japan’s dramatic shifts, that is merely a trigger – and frankly a dubious one at that, since the thought of a shooting war with China at any point in the future lacks credibility.

At the core lies the refusal of Japan to recognise, and to deal with, the social structures that were behind the rise of militarism in the 1930s. This can be seen in the ongoing visits by cabinet members to the Yasukuni shrine and persistent efforts to deny the government’s role in the enslavement of the “comfort women” – but it goes far beyond that, and requires a national effort at soul searching and at changing century old power structures. Reasoned public debate on this point, unfortunately, is almost nonexistent. In a few years, it may be too late.


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Saul Takahashi is a Japanese human rights lawyer and activist who started his career at Amnesty International in Tokyo. Until recently he worked for the United Nations human rights agency in Occupied Palestine. Takahashi’s website is www.saultakahashi.jimdo.com.

[Äijä]

Most likely the same systems Finland got the green light from US.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBvlm9rZmF0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUwm9wdmsQ

[Leo Iscariot]

By "Offensive weapons", I was thinking they were given dick-shaped bullets or something. :lol:

[Ars Moriendi]

By "Offensive weapons", I was thinking they were given dick-shaped bullets or something. :lol:

I don't get it, what's your point?