Balkan K7 results

[HellLander87]

The results are run through Gedmatch.


Bulgarian

ANE 15.03%
ASE 1.79%
WHG-UHG 47.93%
East_Eurasian 0.39%
West_African 0.37%
East_African 0.21%
ENF 34.28%


ANE 13.84%
ASE 1.98%
WHG-UHG 46.93%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.60%
East_African 0.60%
ENF 36.05%


ANE 12.13%
ASE 1.53%
WHG-UHG 47.00%
East_Eurasian 1.19%
West_African -
East_African 0.55%
ENF 37.61%
----
MKD

ANE 12.21%
ASE 1.25%
WHG-UHG 47.57%
East_Eurasian 0.97%
West_African 0.19%
East_African -
ENF 37.82%


ANE 12.58%
ASE 0.59%
WHG-UHG 47.11%
East_Eurasian 0.96%
West_African 0.42%
East_African -
ENF 38.34%
----

Romanian


ANE 13.49%
ASE 3.39%
WHG-UHG 50.54%
East_Eurasian 1.37%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 31.20%

ANE 13.03%
ASE 2.37%
WHG-UHG 52.33%
East_Eurasian 0.98%
West_African 0.16%
East_African 0.95%
ENF 30.17%

----

Serbian

ANE 13.62%
ASE 1.89%
WHG-UHG 54.33%
East_Eurasian 0.45%
West_African 0.15%
East_African -
ENF 29.55%

ANE 13.52%
ASE 0.88%
WHG-UHG 53.50%
East_Eurasian 1.48%
West_African 0.17%
East_African -
ENF 30.45%

----

Albanian

ANE 10.93%
ASE 1.29%
WHG-UHG 43.75%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.51%
East_African -
ENF 43.52%


ANE 11.76%
ASE 1.26%
WHG-UHG 44.67%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.66%
East_African 0.51%
ENF 41.13%

ANE 11.36%
ASE 2.28%
WHG-UHG 46.32%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.03%

----

Greek
//olympus
ANE 10.80%
ASE 0.85%
WHG-UHG 46.90%
East_Eurasian 0.89%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.55%
----

ANE 12.96%
ASE 1.87%
WHG-UHG 46.71%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.19%
East_African 0.85%
ENF 37.42%


ANE 11.23%
ASE 1.26%
WHG-UHG 45.35%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.60%
ENF 41.56%

ANE 11.68%
ASE 1.30%
WHG-UHG 46.63%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.26%
East_African -
ENF 40.13%

//patras
ANE 11.46%
ASE 1.19%
WHG-UHG 40.43%
East_Eurasian 0.06%
West_African 0.59%
East_African 0.10%
ENF 46.17%
----
ACHTUNG! ACHTUNG!
**These results are just the first I bumped to at Gedmatch and run them.

Especially for the Greeks because of their particularly high diversity in comparison to other Balkanians these may appear to some as troll results, but I assure you it was unintentional.
For the rest I think the results are decently close to their population's median values.

For a comprehensive image check this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1684wMM_ZJFoxcxJXK0jkVgeGGEVl5Nw3-Moc_IFrlOs/edit?pli=1#gid=1051326962

[Faklon]

For a comprehensive image check this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1051326962

Central Greece seems quite diverse.

And it's interesting that the difference is gradual.

eg

3 score around 42 WHG
3 around 36
2 around 33
3 around 30
,,,

Guess it's a difference between inland and Aegean(Euboea...) maybe?

[HellLander87]

Central Greece seems quite diverse.

And it's interesting that the difference is gradual.

eg

3 score around 42 WHG
3 around 36
2 around 33
3 around 30
,,,

Guess it's a difference between inland and Aegean maybe?
Bad sample imo.There is no way or at least it's very weird that there is 17% difference between the northernmost Thessalian and southernmost Central greek.If we add another 17% to the northernmost Thessalian we go from 47% to 64% which is what Northern euros score ,just to get an idea about what differences we are talking.

[Faklon]

Bad sample imo.There is no way or at least it's very weird that there is 17% difference between the northernmost Thessalian and southernmost Central greek.If we add another 17% to the northernmost Thessalian we go from 47% to 64% which is what Northern euros score ,just to get an idea about what differences we are talking.

Could be.

Ableit comparing Agrafa with Skyros may give some difference.

[HellLander87]

Could be.

Thought comparing Agrafa with Skyros may give some difference.
Skyros maybe but it's not the smartest thing to do to sample skyrians and tag the sample central Greek.Even the results I ve seen from the peloponnese are within the graeco-albanian range which makes sense.
Also historically central greece wasn't any kind of holy area where any invader would pay the tolls and move on southwards.The eastern part is Arvanite,the central was called small wallachia at medieval years the western is more like an extension of Albania etc.:D

[Faklon]

Skyros maybe but it's not the smartest thing to do to sample skyrians and tag the sample central Greek.Even the results I ve seen from the peloponnese are within the graeco-albanian range which makes sense.
Also historically central greece wasn't any kind of holy area where any invader would pay the tolls and move on southwards.The eastern part is Arvanite,the central was called small wallachia at medieval years the western is more like an extension of Albania etc.:D

:lol00002:
Skyros still falls into Central Greece geographically,could make some sense if the samples were taken from various people from Chalcis to say.


Northern inland Central Greece is actually real Thessaly without as much Olympian R1a indicators.:heh:

[HellLander87]

:lol00002:
Skyros still falls into Central Greece geographically,could make some sense if the samples were taken from various people from Chalcis to say.


Northern inland Central Greece is actually real Thessaly without as much Olympian R1a indicators.:heh:
idk man.i just hope that after we ll gain independance we won't be forced to make an inter thessalian ethnic cleansing by removing local gypsies.:D
And real thessaly stretches from Lamia to kozani.

[Faklon]

idk man.i just hope that after we ll gain independance we won't be forced to make an inter thessalian ethnic cleansing by removing local gypsies.:D
And real thessaly stretches from Lamia to kozani.
:jump0000:

Man,I'm like 3/4 REAL Thessalian when you're like 1/2+1/2 highland Slav.
I make the rules here.

Give me your sheep.

[HellLander87]

:jump0000:

Man,I'm like 3/4 REAL Thessalian when you're like 1/2+1/2 highland Slav.
I make the rules here.

Give me your sheep.
watch you tongue.Even as 1/2 Olympian i can still strike you down with a thunder.

[Faklon]

watch you tongue.Even as 1/2 Olympian i can still strike you down with a thunder.

Can you strike me down 150$ to take this 23+me test?Not much trust tbh.

[HellLander87]

Can you strike me down 150$ to take this 23+me test?Not much trust tbh.
it ll be a waste of money on you, you are a mongrel.

[Faklon]

it ll be a waste of money on you, you are a mongrel.

Man,my Karditsan side is the darkest in colouring by a pinch.

Anyway,it's the decision my father took after his forefather freed and Hellenized Larissa.

[Trun]

Talibanians so high on Neolithic, I sense callmeswarthy having an erection.

[HellLander87]

Man,my Karditsan side is the darkest in colouring by a pinch.

Anyway,it's the decision my father took after his forefather freed and Hellenized Larissa.
Even if you are 1/4 polish,i won't waste money on a karagounis.

[Faklon]

Even if you are 1/4 polish,i won't waste money on a karagounis.

I'm 1/4 Karditsan Sarakatsani,not Karagounis.

But we Hellenized you from Othrys anyway.

[HellLander87]

I'm 1/4 Karditsan Sarakatsani,not Karagounis.

But we Hellenized you from Orthrys anyway.
So you are 1/4 vlach-sarakatsan 2/4 karagounis,1/4 imbros?

[Casandrinos]

Fucking shepherd trying to make us look all as his shit-race

To hell your fake genetic results

People don't even entrust their vommit to VlachLanders

[HellLander87]

:rotfl: he got mad

[Faklon]

So you are 1/4 vlach-sarakatsan 2/4 karagounis,1/4 imbros?

2/4 Free Vlachander missionaries from Othrys(father),1/4 Sarakatsani 1/4 Vlachanatolian from around Chios and Tenedos in ancestry.

[Faklon]

In Greek mythology Mount Othrys was the base of Cronus and the Titans during the ten year war with the Olympian Gods known as the Titanomachy. It was assaulted by the Olympians, led by Cronus' son Zeus. Zeus later overthrew his father and gained dominion in all of the heavens and the earth.

We will get you back Slavicized sons Olympians.

The Junta didn't end in 5000 BC.

[Pjeter Pan]

Here are my results, what ANE, ASE, WHG-UHG, and ENF mean?
Population
ANE 11.77%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 44.59%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 42.26%

[Faklon]

Fucking shepherd trying to make us look all as his shit-race

To hell your fake genetic results

People don't even entrust their vommit to VlachLanders

Let Hellander alone you gypsy subhuman,go pluck your eyebrows or something to join some chechen squad.

That's all Caucasus highlanders can do.

[HellLander87]

Here are my results, what ANE, ASE, WHG-UHG, and ENF mean?
Population
ANE 11.77%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 44.59%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 42.26%
Ane is ancestral north eurasian
ase is something like south indian
whg-uhg western hunter gatherer-unknown hunter-gatherer
enf earliest neolithic farmer

[Casandrinos]

Let Hellander alone you gypsy subhuman,go pluck your eyebrows or something to join some chechen squad.

That's all Caucasus highlanders can do.

What's going on here

Nebegleras backing up Gekas when sheep-feuds are in danger?

MY CHECHEN BROS WILL PLAY FOOTVOLLEY WITH YOUR BRACHY SKULLS

[Pjeter Pan]

Ane is ancient north eurasian
ase is something like south indian
whg-uhg western hunter gatherer-unknown hunter-gatherer
enf earliest neolithic farmerAncestral South Eurasian(ase)

looking at the other results seems I'm typical for a balkanite

[HellLander87]

blah blah
tsifteteli party next door go

[Bloodnigger]

Here are my results, what ANE, ASE, WHG-UHG, and ENF mean?
Population
ANE 11.77%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 44.59%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 42.26%

Greek with Tunisian y-dna.

You can prove useful.

[Pjeter Pan]

Greek with Tunisian y-dna.

You can prove useful.
Wait Greek? Wtf is going on.

[Bloodnigger]

Wait Greek? Wtf is going on.

Looks awfully close to the Olympian result.

Welcome to the master race, son of Zeus.

[Faklon]

What's going on here

Nebegleras backing up Gekas when sheep-feuds are in danger?

MY CHECHEN BROS WILL PLAY FOOTVOLLEY WITH YOUR BRACHY SKULLS

Stop big talking and pm blogen to show you the root to take your baboon faced sheep to Asia.

Hellander is like my son in highlander wise folk mythology.

[Bloodnigger]

Stop big talking and pm blogen to show you the root to take your baboon faced sheep to Asia.

Hellander is like my son in highlander wise folk mythology.

Non-Argead phenotypes pls go.

Only members of the byzantine-Olympian race can crew the phallanx.

[Pjeter Pan]

Looks awfully close to the Olympian result.

Welcome to the master race, son of Zeus.shit I'm the ancient Greek.
dralos is gonna be pissed.

[HellLander87]

Non-Argead phenotypes pls go.

Only members of the byzantine-Olympian race can crew the phallanx.
The phalanx stays out of thessalian soil.Crew it yourself.

[Bloodnigger]

shit I'm the ancient Greek.
dralos is gonna be pissed.

An Epeirot-Olympian greek like Phyrrus, carrying the y-dna of Hannibal Barca.

Dralos can be your hunchback butler.

[Faklon]

Non-Argead phenotypes pls go.

Only members of the byzantine-Olympian race can crew the phallanx.

That's why the Romans will own it forever.

[Pjeter Pan]

An Epeirot-Olympian greek like Phyrrus, carrying the y-dna of Hannibal Barca.

Dralos can be your hunchback butler.
Shir bro I won the lottery. Fuck the romans for what they did to my people.
I swear to Zeus I will sacked rome.

Carthage ftw

[Bloodnigger]

The phalanx is heading right into thessalian soil. Vlachic flatheads are fucked.

Indeed

http://puu.sh/bLhHk.jpg

[Casandrinos]

Stop big talking and pm blogen to show you the root to take your baboon faced sheep to Asia.

Hellander is like my son in highlander wise folk mythology.

You started the big talking and now hiding in the mountains like a shepherd with plucked moustache

I will send Blogen to gather taxes and inform you about the new Anatolid occupation

My Ubermensch sheep feed urinated grass to yours.

[HellLander87]

Indeed

http://puu.sh/bLhHk.jpg
:rotfl:That's it.I ll thunderstrike you.

[Pjeter Pan]

Why don't you fags just have a foursome, release the tension. Get it over with

[Bloodnigger]

Why don't you fags just have a threesome, release the tension. Get it over with

You do not mix with Thessalians, you use them as meat shields in your eastern campaigns.

They can join the Pontiacs of Kavala in the skirmish line.

[Faklon]

You started the big talking and now hiding in the mountains like a shepherd with plucked moustache

I will send Blogen to gather taxes and inform you about the new Anatolid occupation

My Ubermensch sheep feed urinated grass to yours.

I didn't big talk.
I warned.
I send blogen back with a Stears to humiliate you.
My sheep piss on you and then dance to Albanian macarena.

[Pjeter Pan]

You do not mix with Thessalians, you use them as meat shields in your eastern campaigns.

They can join the Pontiacs of Kavala in the skirmish line.
Is that anyway to treat your brothers? :lol:

[Bloodnigger]

I didn't big talk.
I warned.
I send blogen back with a Stears to humiliate you.
My sheep piss on you and then dance to Albanian macarena.

As a true hellenic med but without a royal macedonian phenotype, you can be my second.


Is that anyway to treat your brothers? :Lol:

Malus has no friends, only a God-King phenotype.

[Casandrinos]

I didn't big talk.
I warned.
I send blogen back with a Stears to humiliate you.
My sheep piss on you and then dance to Albanian macarena.

Your warnings will be taken seriously when you get down to at least 1000 meters and say them to my face without Nebegleras backing you up.

Stears is the perfect Janissary for my cause, i will teach him all the anti-Shepherd insults and racist anecdotes i know. All the flaws in your mongrel appearence will be counted one by one.

You will have a hard time passing as human in Members Pictures Thread hehehe

Albanian macarena is for Gekides, my sheep dance Phyrichio when piss on your slavicized goat milk.

[Faklon]

As a true hellenic med but without a royal macedonian phenotype, you can be my second.



Malus has no friends, only a God-King phenotype.

Man,I'm Achilles.

There's no way I'm going to follow you like that.

[HellLander87]

Man,I'm Achilles.

There's no way I'm going to follow you like that.
wtf is going on with this guy.i say we lure him along with his monkeydonian single- man phalanx into thessaly, kill him and then we either turn him to cattle food or fertilizer, you decide.

[Trun]

Averages
, from left to right Mong, Gypo, Scando, Wog

Bos 14.96 2.59 55.81 25.56
Bul 13.30 2.00 48.35 34.95
Cro 14.81 2.04 58.81 23.25
Gre 10.29 0.01 38.66 49.25
The 11.02 1.44 42.39 44.24
Kos 11.37 1.65 45.32 41.23
Mac 13.02 1.88 50.54 33.89
Mon 13.33 1.57 52.23 31.86
Rom 13.74 1.52 49.04 33.83
Ser 13.69 1.75 53.82 29.39
Seb 14.03 2.64 57.98 24.61

[HellLander87]

Good to note that ranges overlap signigicantly.

[Geni]

Population
ANE 10.70%
ASE 1.51%
WHG-UHG 42.44%
East_African -
ENF 44.77%

[Geni]

The results are run through Gedmatch.


Bulgarian

ANE 15.03%
ASE 1.79%
WHG-UHG 47.93%
East_Eurasian 0.39%
West_African 0.37%
East_African 0.21%
ENF 34.28%


ANE 13.84%
ASE 1.98%
WHG-UHG 46.93%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.60%
East_African 0.60%
ENF 36.05%


ANE 12.13%
ASE 1.53%
WHG-UHG 47.00%
East_Eurasian 1.19%
West_African -
East_African 0.55%
ENF 37.61%
----
MKD

ANE 12.21%
ASE 1.25%
WHG-UHG 47.57%
East_Eurasian 0.97%
West_African 0.19%
East_African -
ENF 37.82%


ANE 12.58%
ASE 0.59%
WHG-UHG 47.11%
East_Eurasian 0.96%
West_African 0.42%
East_African -
ENF 38.34%
----

Romanian


ANE 13.49%
ASE 3.39%
WHG-UHG 50.54%
East_Eurasian 1.37%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 31.20%

ANE 13.03%
ASE 2.37%
WHG-UHG 52.33%
East_Eurasian 0.98%
West_African 0.16%
East_African 0.95%
ENF 30.17%

----

Serbian

ANE 13.62%
ASE 1.89%
WHG-UHG 54.33%
East_Eurasian 0.45%
West_African 0.15%
East_African -
ENF 29.55%

ANE 13.52%
ASE 0.88%
WHG-UHG 53.50%
East_Eurasian 1.48%
West_African 0.17%
East_African -
ENF 30.45%

----

Alibabanian

ANE 10.93%
ASE 1.29%
WHG-UHG 43.75%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.51%
East_African -
ENF 43.52%


ANE 11.76%
ASE 1.26%
WHG-UHG 44.67%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.66%
East_African 0.51%
ENF 41.13%

ANE 11.36%
ASE 2.28%
WHG-UHG 46.32%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.03%

----

Greek
//olympus
ANE 10.80%
ASE 0.85%
WHG-UHG 46.90%
East_Eurasian 0.89%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.55%
----

ANE 12.96%
ASE 1.87%
WHG-UHG 46.71%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.19%
East_African 0.85%
ENF 37.42%


ANE 11.23%
ASE 1.26%
WHG-UHG 45.35%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.60%
ENF 41.56%

ANE 11.68%
ASE 1.30%
WHG-UHG 46.63%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.26%
East_African -
ENF 40.13%

//patras
ANE 11.46%
ASE 1.19%
WHG-UHG 40.43%
East_Eurasian 0.06%
West_African 0.59%
East_African 0.10%
ENF 46.17%
----
ACHTUNG! ACHTUNG!
**These results are just the first I bumped to at Gedmatch and run them.

Especially for the Greeks because of their particularly high diversity in comparison to other Balkanians these may appear to some as troll results, but I assure you it was unintentional.
For the rest I think the results are decently close to their population's median values.

For a comprehensive image check this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1684wMM_ZJFoxcxJXK0jkVgeGGEVl5Nw3-Moc_IFrlOs/edit?pli=1#gid=1051326962

Change the name in Albanian please..

[HellLander87]

Change the name in Albanian please..

My mistake.I can't edit post now unfortunately.

[Geni]

so ,so.. 1 mistake...

[poiuytrewq0987]

This test is mostly gibberish to me but here I go...

WHG-UHG 51.15%
ENF 31.54%
ANE 14.10%
East Eurasian 1.78%
East African 0.71%
ASE 0.72%
West African 0%

[Trun]

This test is mostly gibberish to me but here I go...

WHG-UHG 51.15%
ENF 31.54%
ANE 14.10%
East Eurasian 1.78%
East African 0.71%
ASE 0.72%
West African 0%

Where is your ancestry from? You score more north than average.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Where is your ancestry from? You score more north than average.

http://www.crete-perfect-home.com/west-crete-property-news/maia_200803/fyrom.gif

[Trun]

http://www.crete-perfect-home.com/west-crete-property-news/maia_200803/fyrom.gif

What I meant is specific region, like Strumishko, Prilepsko, Kumanovsko, etc...

[poiuytrewq0987]

What I meant is specific region, like Strumishko, Prilepsko, Kumanovsko, etc...

Mainly from Prilep, Skopje and Kumanovo regions.

[Trun]

Mainly from Prilep, Skopje and Kumanovo regions.

So I believe Skopie-Kumanovo-Kriva Palanka are more northern plotting than Bitola-Gevgelija-Strumica, judging from yours and Vojnik's results.

[poiuytrewq0987]

So I believe Skopie-Kumanovo-Kriva Palanka are more northern plotting than Bitola-Gevgelija-Strumica, judging from yours and Vojnik's results.

I wouldn't know but I'm pretty sure my grandfather on my mother's side is the cause (from Prilep region). His brother is rather exotic looking for the average Macedonian though pretty common all things considered.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Where is your ancestry from? You score more north than average.

His father was probably a Serb.

[poiuytrewq0987]

His father was probably a Serb.

No.

[Stefan_Dusan]

No.

Well you can deny it if you want, but genetic results speak for themselves.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Well you can deny it if you want, but genetic results speak for themselves.

LOL. There is nothing in my family history that could suggest Serbian ancestry. Only Bulgarian.

[Stefan_Dusan]

LOL. There is nothing in my family history that could suggest Serbian ancestry. Only Bulgarian.

Except your genetics. You are way northern for average Bulgarian. You mentioned somewhere your father scored 15-16% Eastern European, this is far higher than the Bulgarians I get but in line with Serbs (like Guapo). Then there is your Y-haplogroup, E-V13, which is more common among Serbs (especially Montenegrins) than Bulgarians. Finally, the region you come from is basically a Serbian one until recently.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Are you sure you're not Guapo's sock puppet? :D


Except your genetics. You are way northern for average Bulgarian.

Northern in the Balkans?! :lol: It's called armpit of Europe, FYI.


You mentioned somewhere your father scored 15-16% Eastern European, this is far higher than the Bulgarians

It means absolutely nothing. Percentages are percentages. It could mean my father's descendants mixed with the Seven Slavic Tribes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Slavic_tribes) just as well.


I get but in line with Serbs (like Guapo). Then there is your Y-haplogroup, E-V13, which is more common among Serbs (especially Montenegrins) than Bulgarians.

You're kidding me, right? E-V13 is common all over the Balkans. Let me guess, a Bulgarian from Burgas who has E-V13 is a Serb now? How about Greeks from Morea or Crete? Are they Serbs too? :D


Finally, the region you come from is basically a Serbian one until recently.

Not really. The region that we now know as southern Serbia was a heavily Bulgarian region called South/Bulgarian Morava before the Serbs colonized it. They tried to colonize Macedonia too but this failed and a Macedonian identity was inadvertently created. Cities like Nis and Leskovac weren't included in the Bulgarian Exarchate for fun after all.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Bulgarian-Exarchate-1870-1913.jpg

[Trun]

You are way northern for average Bulgarian.

He isn't. Check individual results on the spreadsheet HellLander posted in the OP. There are Bulgarians who score even northern than him, just like there are a few who cluster with Kosovars and Thessalians.


Then there is your Y-haplogroup, E-V13, which is more common among Serbs (especially Montenegrins) than Bulgarians. Finally, the region you come from is basically a Serbian one until recently.

E-V13 is the most common haplogroup in Bulgaria together with I2. And North FYROM has been ethnically Bulgarian a century ago.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Are you sure you're not Guapo's sock puppet? :D

I'm Guapo's cousin :D


Northern in the Balkans?! :lol: It's called armpit of Europe, FYI.

Well people plot more north than others genetically. And this is very stable, doesn't fluctuate very much, because gene pools tend to be closed. A Bulgarian finds another Bulgarian, another Serb finds another Serb. Your results are statistically shifted into the Montenegrin/Serbian cluster. Most likely explanation is reason I give.


It means absolutely nothing. Percentages are percentages. It could mean my father's descendants mixed with the Seven Slavic Tribes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Slavic_tribes) just as well.


It means your father is outlier for Bulgarian/Macedonian sample, but dead average for Serbian. Make of this what you will.


You're kidding me, right? E-V13 is common all over the Balkans. Let me guess, a Bulgarian from Burgas who has E-V13 is a Serb now? How about Greeks from Morea or Crete? Are they Serbs too? :D

I didn't say E-V13 is Serbian, it's highest in Albanians and in certain Greeks. But in your cases, it points to Serbian progenitor with the other evidence I gave.



Not really. The region that we now know as southern Serbia was a heavily Bulgarian region called South/Bulgarian Morava before the Serbs colonized it. They tried to colonize Macedonia too but this failed and a Macedonian identity was inadvertently created. Cities like Nis and Leskovac weren't included in the Bulgarian Exarchate for fun after all.

Kumanovo was part of Kosovo until Tito gave it to Macedonia. Don't give me bullshit about this being Bulgarian when your own genetics are atypical for Bulgarians. If you were to put your father on this sample, I bet he would get 54% WHG, the sample for Serbs.

[Stefan_Dusan]

He isn't. Check individual results on the spreadsheet HellLander posted in the OP. There are Bulgarians who score even northern than him, just like there are a few who cluster with Kosovars and Thessalians.

Not from Macedonia, maybe from northwest Bulgaria ;)

Find me Macedonian with his scores, and post them here.

[Trun]

Find me Macedonian with his scores, and post them here.

I have told you - check the spreadsheet and you'll find at least 4-5 of them.

[Stefan_Dusan]

I have told you - check the spreadsheet and you'll find at least 4-5 of them.

Then easy for you, please put 1 here that is from Macedonia that scores 51% WHG.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Whatever fuck this conversation, Thraex your genetics are very slavic shifted for a Bulgarian. Let's just put it this way. You're in the 1% or less of Macedonians with your slavic blood.

[Trun]

Then easy for you, please put 1 here that is from Macedonia that scores 51% WHG.

Macedonian Macedonian7_GSM1424624 0,127984 0,01881 0,526635 0,008432 0,001284 0,005799 0,311055

Even 52% :D

[Insuperable]

Averages
, from left to right Mong, Gypo, Scando, Wog

Bos 14.96 2.59 55.81 25.56
Bul 13.30 2.00 48.35 34.95
Cro 14.81 2.04 58.81 23.25
Gre 10.29 0.01 38.66 49.25
The 11.02 1.44 42.39 44.24
Kos 11.37 1.65 45.32 41.23
Mac 13.02 1.88 50.54 33.89
Mon 13.33 1.57 52.23 31.86
Rom 13.74 1.52 49.04 33.83
Ser 13.69 1.75 53.82 29.39
Seb 14.03 2.64 57.98 24.61

Did you put Croatian_average and Croatian_BH_average together? Why didn't you separated them as in Serbian case since it would be interesting to see their results separately? I didn't include one guy in Croatian sample. He/she is an obvious outlier. It is a person which circulates on many graphs and maps. He/she clusters with Albanians.

Croatian_average
14.99 2.06 60.51 21.1
Croatian_BH_average
14.96 2.05 58.09 23.89

[pelikarski]

Except your genetics. You are way northern for average Bulgarian. You mentioned somewhere your father scored 15-16% Eastern European, this is far higher than the Bulgarians I get but in line with Serbs (like Guapo). Then there is your Y-haplogroup, E-V13, which is more common among Serbs (especially Montenegrins) than Bulgarians. Finally, the region you come from is basically a Serbian one until recently.

2 % more Northern than average bulgarian : way northern lol

In all seriousness Bulgarians with ancesty from Eastern Thrace shouldnt participate in this project.
Even Lithum, who is Nordid may, score 40% ENF. Removing these simply bulgarized subhumans would boost our Northern average and lower the subhuman ENF

[pelikarski]

Did you put Croatian_average and Croatian_BH_average together? Why didn't you separated them as in Serbian case since it would be interesting to see their results separately? I didn't include one guy in Croatian sample. He/she is an obvious outlier. It is a person which circulates on many graphs and maps. He/she clusters with Albanians.

Croatian_average
14.99 2.06 60.51 21.1
Croatian_BH_average
14.96 2.05 58.09 23.89

You should stop blabbing how Croats are Neolithic subhuman mixed race.
If Croats with their 23% Neolitihic ancestry are mixed, what about Bulgarians with 35% xD

[Trun]

2 % more Northern than average bulgarian : way northern lol

In all seriousness Bulgarians with ancesty from Eastern Thrace shouldnt participate in this project.
Even Lithum, who is Nordid may, score 40% ENF. Removing these simply bulgarized subhumans would boost our Northern average and lower the subhuman ENF

Lithium says he is native to Burgas but he would score more southern than me for sure.

Being of Western/Central Bulgarian ancestry is a genetic blessing :D

[Archduke]

In all seriousness Bulgarians with ancesty from Eastern Thrace shouldnt participate in this project.

Why?

[Lemon Kush]

2 % more Northern than average bulgarian : way northern lol

In all seriousness Bulgarians with ancesty from Eastern Thrace shouldnt participate in this project.
Even Lithum, who is Nordid may, score 40% ENF. Removing these simply bulgarized subhumans would boost our Northern average and lower the subhuman ENF

hehehehehehe

[Trun]

Why?

Eastern Thracians for Bulgarians are what Pontics are for Greeks.

[Archduke]

Eastern Thracians for Bulgarians are what Pontics are for Greeks.

No wonder why they were the richest Bulgarians back in the past...must be the jew in them :laugh:

Btw Eageans are darker than us

[Trun]

No wonder why they were the richest Bulgarians back in the past...must be the jew in them :laugh:

Absolutely :D No wonder the Northwest is the poorest, being of strong Slavovlachic extraction :D

[jtoml3]

My Gedmatch results. My known ancestry is Croatian, Polish, Maori, English, Scottish and Irish. The Croatian is paternal only.

Population
ANE 14.43%
ASE 2.82%
WHG-UHG 60.32%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.62%
East_African -
ENF 21.82%


Did you put Croatian_average and Croatian_BH_average together? Why didn't you separated them as in Serbian case since it would be interesting to see their results separately? I didn't include one guy in Croatian sample. He/she is an obvious outlier. It is a person which circulates on many graphs and maps. He/she clusters with Albanians.

Croatian_average
14.99 2.06 60.51 21.1
Croatian_BH_average
14.96 2.05 58.09 23.89

Mine is slightly similar to the Croatian_average. As my Croatian isn't both paternal and maternal I wouldn't expect to be closer to those figures anyway but its a good reference.

[HellLander87]

Absolutely :D No wonder the Northwest is the poorest, being of strong Slavovlachic extraction :D
please brate/frate what kind of slavovlachic inferiority complex is that?You are by far superior to the armenoid Bulgarians of the east.:D

[Archduke]

please brate/frate what kind of slavovlachic inferiority complex is that?You are by far superior to the armenoid Bulgarians of the east.:D

actually the most succesful Bulgarians come from the east, in particular from the coast. Its obvious that we are gifted as the best actors, singers, authors come from here. :D

[HellLander87]

actually the most succesful Bulgarians come from the east, in particular from the coast. Its obvious that we are gifted as the best actors, singers, authors come from here.
Acting and singing is connected with gypsy heritage.

[Archduke]

Acting and singing is connected with gypsy heritage.

So Orpheus was a gypsy?

[pelikarski]

There were many rich regions in Bulgaria - usually where trade routes pass. But the most culturally advanced region was Rousse, its not surprise it is called the Little Wien.

[pelikarski]

please brate/frate what kind of slavovlachic inferiority complex is that?You are by far superior to the armenoid Bulgarians of the east.:D

Blame the Greeks. According to Archdude every third Bulgarian from the coast has Greek ancestry.

[HellLander87]

So Orpheus was a gypsy?

Is that the guy with lyre?I imagine him going from table to table playing music and asking for money at ancient greek or thracian taverns.So yes.

[HellLander87]

Blame the Greeks. According to Archdude every third Bulgarian from the coast has Greek ancestry.
There are many kinds of Greek ancestry.If they were Greeks from Pontus or anatolia it is very probable that these are the reason.

[pelikarski]

Is that the guy with lyre?I imagine him going from table to table playing music and asking for money at ancient greek or thracian taverns.So yes.

Wow dude you are such a retard that I have symphaty for you ( mainly cos you want to expell the Turko-Anadoldis from Greece)
Why do you take a pride in being Balkanoid btw? You are probably the first Greek I se

[Bloodnigger]

So Orpheus was a gypsy?

And a faggot to boot.

He went to the Underworld for pussy even. Beta faggot.

All the manly greeks came from hills and mountains. See, Hercules, Jason.

[HellLander87]

Wow dude you are such a retard that I have symphaty for you ( mainly cos you want to expell the Turko-Anadoldis from Greece)
Why do you take a pride in being Balkanoid btw? You are probably the first Greek I se
thanks for the sympathy,but the fact that you don't understand or appreciate my trolling should make you ask some questions about yourself.

[pelikarski]

thanks for the sympathy,but the fact that you don't understand or appreciate my trolling should make you ask some questions about yourself.
I confused with mine trolling.
But many of the things I say are blurred. So when I say it I mean it.

[Archduke]

And a faggot to boot.

He went to the Underworld for pussy even. Beta faggot.

All the manly greeks came from hills and mountains. See, Hercules, Jason.

Orpehous was from the mountain though.

[Bloodnigger]

Orpehous was from the mountain though.

Can't win them all.

True story: when my grandfather was telling me the story, I asked him why he got his woman out instead of Hercules. "Because he was an idiot" he told me.

Based grandpa.

[safinator]

Albanians results




1)
Population
ANE 11.02%
ASE 1.40%
WHG-UHG 40.25%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.07%
East_African 0.52%
ENF 46.73%

2)
Population
ANE 10.79%
ASE 0.59%
WHG-UHG 44.80%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.27%
East_African 0.09%
ENF 43.45%



3)
Population
ANE 11.92%
ASE 0.07%
WHG-UHG 46.84%
East_Eurasian 0.85%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.32%

4)
Population
ANE 10.70%
ASE 1.51%
WHG-UHG 42.44%
East_Eurasian 0.44%
West_African 0.15%
East_African -
ENF 44.77%

5)
Population
ANE 10.80%
ASE 1.11%
WHG-UHG 45.60%
East_Eurasian 0.61%
West_African 0.33%
East_African -
ENF 41.56%

6)
Population
ANE 12.57%
ASE 1.53%
WHG-UHG 45.17%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.42%
East_African -
ENF 40.30%

7)
Population
ANE 10.96%
ASE 1.27%
WHG-UHG 43.70%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.47%
East_African -
ENF 43.59%

8)
Population
ANE 11.24%
ASE 1.93%
WHG-UHG 43.23%
East_Eurasian 1.50%
West_African -
East_African 0.10%
ENF 42.00%

9)
Population
ANE 11.06%
ASE 1.08%
WHG-UHG 46.31%
East_Eurasian 0.76%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.77%

10)
Population
ANE 11.88%
ASE 1.42%
WHG-UHG 41.76%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.46%
ENF 44.49%


11)
Population
ANE 10.27%
ASE 0.27%
WHG-UHG 43.44%
East_Eurasian 0.76%
West_African 0.38%
East_African -
ENF 44.87%

12)
Population
ANE 9.80%
ASE 1.78%
WHG-UHG 44.85%
East_Eurasian 1.71%
West_African 0.31%
East_African 0.26%
ENF 41.28%

13)
Population
ANE 12.37%
ASE 1.43%
WHG-UHG 47.69%
East_Eurasian 0.49%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 38.03%

14)
Population
ANE 11.26%
ASE 1.58%
WHG-UHG 46.80%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.36%

15)
Population
ANE 11.20%
ASE 2.58%
WHG-UHG 44.20%
East_Eurasian 0.21%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 41.81%

16)
Population
ANE 11.41%
ASE 0.62%
WHG-UHG 46.41%
East_Eurasian 0.96%
West_African 0.23%
East_African -
ENF 40.36%

17)
Population
ANE 10.95%
ASE 1.34%
WHG-UHG 43.80%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 43.86%

18)
Population
ANE 10.30%
ASE 0.76%
WHG-UHG 44.06%
East_Eurasian 0.96%
West_African 0.44%
East_African 0.10%
ENF 43.37%

19)
Population
ANE 11.77%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 44.59%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 42.26%

20)

Population
ANE 10.99%
ASE 1.44%
WHG-UHG 42.71%
East_Eurasian 0.46%
West_African 0.12%
East_African -
ENF 44.28%

21)
Population
ANE 11.02%
ASE 1.40%
WHG-UHG 40.25%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.07%
East_African 0.52%
ENF 46.73%

22)
Population
ANE 12.45%
ASE 1.94%
WHG-UHG 47.94%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.72%
East_African -
ENF 36.95%

[wvwvw]

The results are run through Gedmatch.

Greek
//olympus
ANE 10.80%
ASE 0.85%
WHG-UHG 46.90%
East_Eurasian 0.89%
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 40.55%
----

ANE 12.96%
ASE 1.87%
WHG-UHG 46.71%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.19%
East_African 0.85%
ENF 37.42%


ANE 11.23%
ASE 1.26%
WHG-UHG 45.35%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 0.60%
ENF 41.56%

ANE 11.68%
ASE 1.30%
WHG-UHG 46.63%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.26%
East_African -
ENF 40.13%

//patras
ANE 11.46%
ASE 1.19%
WHG-UHG 40.43%
East_Eurasian 0.06%
West_African 0.59%
East_African 0.10%
ENF 46.17%
----



My father results. Ill have to download mine again

Population
ANE 11.81%
ASE 1.59%
WHG-UHG 42.73%
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African -
ENF 43.88%